Board 8 > I have NO FUCKING IDEA what a catch is in the NFL anymore. No clue.

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I hate Seattle. Even I think that was bullshit.
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my first instinct was to see if they were playing the lions
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Red Shifter posted...

my first instinct was to see if they were playing the lions

This is the worst one ever....
Nothing else even close.

The player catches the ball. And then he runs with it AT LEAST SIX YARDS and 3 steps. Note. He has control, there is no debate he has control, the ball isn't moving at all. THIS WAS NOT CALLED A CATCH!!!!!!!!
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This what you are talking about?
https://twitter.com/wolfeva1251/status/928820343875219457/video/1
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SgtSphynx posted...

This what you are talking about?
https://twitter.com/wolfeva1251/status/928820343875219457/video/1

Yup.
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Fuck that overturn, that's a fumble
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SgtSphynx posted...

Fuck that overturn, that's a fumble

THe worst one ever. Again, if that isn't a catch then nothing should be a catch...
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is "the ground can't cause a fumble" not a thing anymore

regardless that's a catch
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LeonhartFour posted...

is "the ground can't cause a fumble" not a thing anymore

that's only while being tackled. no one touched him.
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LeonhartFour posted...

is "the ground can't cause a fumble" not a thing anymore

regardless that's a catch

The ground can cause a fumble in 2 instances.

1: a QB giving himself up (which is totally by god stupid by the way... since you mark him down where he starts his damn slide, the play should be dead and no ground fumble possible, it's either a live ball or dead...
2 a runner going to the ground without any contact by the defender (since he isn't down because there was no contact)
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The play is dead the moment the QB begins to slide. He could only fumble if he does anything other than slide, I guess, like if he were to try to dive for extra yardage and the ball popped out.
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See I dont think thats a fumble because the ground cant cause a fumble, except I guess in this one specific case.

What a mess.
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LeonhartFour posted...

The play is dead the moment the QB begins to slide. He could only fumble if he does anything other than slide, I guess, like if he were to try to dive for extra yardage and the ball popped out.

Are you sure?

I definitely saw a college game last year (want to say Arizona St) where the QB slid to the ground, had control of the ball, but he landed awkwardly and the ball knocked it out and the other team recovered for a turnover.
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Eddv posted...

See I dont think thats a fumble because the ground cant cause a fumble, except I guess in this one specific case.

What a mess.

Ground can cause a fumble if there's no contact, since then the runner isn't down
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Eddv posted...

See I dont think thats a fumble because the ground cant cause a fumble, except I guess in this one specific case.

What a mess.

Nah... it's definitely a fumble....

There is nothing there to end the play. Had he held on to the ball the ref wouldn't have blown the whistle to end the play. It would be like falling to the ground and then just rolling the ball away from you, it's still a live ball.
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StealThisSheen posted...

Ground can cause a fumble if there's no contact, since then the runner isn't down

PS I think this rule is pretty stupid too.
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EmDubyaSee posted...

I definitely saw a college game last year (want to say Arizona St) where the QB slid to the ground, had control of the ball, but he landed awkwardly and the ball knocked it out and the other team recovered for a turnover.

That shouldn't be possible in college at all because the play is over as soon as the runner hits the ground.
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Eddv posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

Ground can cause a fumble if there's no contact, since then the runner isn't down

PS I think this rule is pretty stupid too.

How...

Pray tell what should end the play there?

What was the process that the ball went from a live ball to a dead ball? What game State changed?
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I think the pro rule that the play MUST end by contact is stupid.

The college rules that being down by any means is when the play ends is way better and safer to boot.
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LeonhartFour posted...

EmDubyaSee posted...

I definitely saw a college game last year (want to say Arizona St) where the QB slid to the ground, had control of the ball, but he landed awkwardly and the ball knocked it out and the other team recovered for a turnover.

That shouldn't be possible in college at all because the play is over as soon as the runner hits the ground.

Im just saying what I saw. Hence my anger the last year at the stupidity that you can give yourself up causing a dead ball but still being fuxked over on a turnover.
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Well, it doesn't have to end in contact in the NFL if the runner clearly gives himself up, but that wouldn't have been the case in this instance.
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Eddv posted...

I think the pro rule that the play MUST end by contact is stupid.

The college rules that being down by any means is when the play ends is way better and safer to boot.

Fair enough.

I usually do agree with this, but I hate it when receivers make a catch on their knees and they can't try to advance despite the fact no one is around.
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