Current Events > How many female mass shooters have there been throughout history?

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Really makes you think, eh?
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Yes, I cant stop thinking
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Could there be an issue with how we raise men?
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Men are the WORST
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scar the 1 posted...

Could there be an issue with how we raise men?

no its guns.

Zodd3224 posted...

Men are the WORST

Maybe I should have written "herstory" in the topic title, you don't seem triggered enough.
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Fam_Fam posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Could there be an issue with how we raise men?

no its guns.

Can't have a mass shooting

if you can't access guns

*points finger at head*
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Fam_Fam posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Could there be an issue with how we raise men?

no its guns.

Hey I'm not asking if it's the only issue.
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scar the 1 posted...

Zodd3224 posted...

Men are the WORST

Maybe I should have written "herstory" in the topic title, you don't seem triggered enough.

Yeah. Make a new thread with "herstory" and I'll be triggered AF
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Zodd3224 posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Zodd3224 posted...

Men are the WORST

Maybe I should have written "herstory" in the topic title, you don't seem triggered enough.

Yeah. Make a new thread with "herstory" and I'll be triggered AF

I'm actually tempted, but I'm also hoping that some actual discussion comes to this topic.
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could it also just be testerone?

scar the 1 posted...

Zodd3224 posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Zodd3224 posted...

Men are the WORST

Maybe I should have written "herstory" in the topic title, you don't seem triggered enough.

Yeah. Make a new thread with "herstory" and I'll be triggered AF

I'm actually tempted, but I'm also hoping that some actual discussion comes to this topic.

Well I gave you an actual female mass shooter, and got ignored.
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Wasn't there a female gamefaqs user that got caught planning a mass shooting?
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scar the 1 posted...

Could there be an issue with how we raise men?

i would say it's more likely an issue with how we allow men to become socially isolated personally

throughout history men became radicalized when they are economically and socially isolated

i think this is not really different

we're conditioned to think of men's value purely in terms of their accomplishments

an unsuccessful man might as well be dead. it's easy for unsuccessful men to internalize that and angrily decide to take people down with them

or just kill themselves. suicide rates among men are much higher than women. but we never stop and ask if we're doing something wrong when men kill themselves, only when they kill others.
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MegaTech posted...

Wasn't there a female gamefaqs user that got caught planning a mass shooting?

An RIer snoopyfemme. She was an Asian, white supremacist
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RE_expert44 posted...

MegaTech posted...

Wasn't there a female gamefaqs user that got caught planning a mass shooting?

An RIer snoopyfemme. She was an Asian, white supremacist

Ah yeah, that's the one. Disturbing
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DK9292 posted...

Well I gave you an actual female mass shooter, and got ignored.

That's because I asked "how many", not "name one".
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scar the 1 posted...

That's because I asked "how many",

why even ask

you're not really interested in the answer

you're interested in talking about why men dominate the numbers
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Darkman124 posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Could there be an issue with how we raise men?

i would say it's more likely an issue with how we allow men to become socially isolated personally

throughout history men became radicalized when they are economically and socially isolated

i think this is not really different

we're conditioned to think of men's value purely in terms of their accomplishments

an unsuccessful man might as well be dead. it's easy for unsuccessful men to internalize that and angrily decide to take people down with them

or just kill themselves. suicide rates among men are much higher than women. but we never stop and ask if we're doing something wrong when men kill themselves, only when they kill others.

Don't you think that one kind of feeds into the other? I mean, how we are conditioned to think of men's value is essentially how we raise men, isn't it?
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Darkman124 posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Could there be an issue with how we raise men?

i would say it's more likely an issue with how we allow men to become socially isolated personally

throughout history men became radicalized when they are economically and socially isolated

i think this is not really different

we're conditioned to think of men's value purely in terms of their accomplishments

an unsuccessful man might as well be dead. it's easy for unsuccessful men to internalize that and angrily decide to take people down with them

or just kill themselves. suicide rates among men are much higher than women. but we never stop and ask if we're doing something wrong when men kill themselves, only when they kill others.

Look at these male tears.

https://images.lookhuman.com/render/standard/7708600988626785/mug15oz-whi-z1-t-100-male-tears.png

And yes, I'm sardonically pointing out what seems to be the typical reaction when we start talking about men's issues like that.
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scar the 1 posted...

Don't you think that one kind of feeds into the other? I mean, how we are conditioned to think of men's value is essentially how we raise men, isn't it?

my point is it ties in to how we raise women too

mens problems are not mens problems to fix

they're society's problems to fix.
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scar the 1 posted...

DK9292 posted...

Well I gave you an actual female mass shooter, and got ignored.

That's because I asked "how many", not "name one".

"Naming one" when you don't know ALL of them is a first step to a discussion. If you're gonna be a snooty bitch about it, fine.
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Darkman124 posted...

scar the 1 posted...

That's because I asked "how many",

why even ask

you're not really interested in the answer

you're interested in talking about why men dominate the numbers

That's true, but that's just as good of a motivation to ignore a single example that doesn't refute anything.
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MegaTech posted...

RE_expert44 posted...

MegaTech posted...

Wasn't there a female gamefaqs user that got caught planning a mass shooting?

An RIer snoopyfemme. She was an Asian, white supremacist

Ah yeah, that's the one. Disturbing

How does Asian white supremacist even work?
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Darkman124 posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Don't you think that one kind of feeds into the other? I mean, how we are conditioned to think of men's value is essentially how we raise men, isn't it?

my point is it ties in to how we raise women too

mens problems are not mens problems to fix

they're society's problems to fix.

Ah yeah I completely agree. I guess why I'm emphasizing men is because that's a very obvious common denominator that people don't like to acknowledge.
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scar the 1 posted...

That's true, but that's just as good of a motivation to ignore a single example that doesn't refute anything.

im just saying, dont suggest people talk about things you don't care about, it leads to a topic being derailed with pedantry

scar the 1 posted...

Ah yeah I completely agree. I guess why I'm emphasizing men is because that's a very obvious common denominator that people don't like to acknowledge.

i think feminists are more than happy to acknowledge it.

i think no one likes to acknowledge that the anger that drives them is not some personality flaw that develops because we raise boys to have expectations in life, but the result of conditions we've allowed to develop because of a personality flaw in all of us.

i think the feminist viewpoint as to the path we need to go--socializing boys to be more like girls even as we try to socialize girls to be more like boys--is the wrong direction.

the right direction is socializing everyone to treat boys more like we treat girls, even as we socialize everyone to treat girls more like we treat boys.
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Zodd3224 posted...

MegaTech posted...

RE_expert44 posted...

MegaTech posted...

Wasn't there a female gamefaqs user that got caught planning a mass shooting?

An RIer snoopyfemme. She was an Asian, white supremacist

Ah yeah, that's the one. Disturbing

How does Asian white supremacist even work?

lots of self hating Asian women.

and half Asians are particularly self hating.

Eliot Rodgers is the best example of this

Zodd3224 posted...

MegaTech posted...

RE_expert44 posted...

MegaTech posted...

Wasn't there a female gamefaqs user that got caught planning a mass shooting?

An RIer snoopyfemme. She was an Asian, white supremacist

Ah yeah, that's the one. Disturbing

How does Asian white supremacist even work?

It's like all those self hating white SJWs l, but from bizzaro world
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Good point. So to clarify, I'm aware there have been female mass shooters. My point is that there are a lot more male ones, and that's an issue that's more or less impossible to address without being a libby SJW PC beta cuck etc. Which imo is part of the problem with our cultures.
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courier_nv posted...

Zodd3224 posted...

MegaTech posted...

RE_expert44 posted...

MegaTech posted...

Wasn't there a female gamefaqs user that got caught planning a mass shooting?

An RIer snoopyfemme. She was an Asian, white supremacist

Ah yeah, that's the one. Disturbing

How does Asian white supremacist even work?

lots of self hating Asian women.

and half Asians are particularly self hating.

Eliot Rodgers is the best example of this

This sounds made up and untrue.
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Zodd3224 posted...

This sounds made up and untrue.

I guess you've never been to r hapa

scar the 1 posted...

Good point. So to clarify, I'm aware there have been female mass shooters. My point is that there are a lot more male ones, and that's an issue that's more or less impossible to address without being a libby SJW PC beta cuck etc. Which imo is part of the problem with our cultures.

i manage to address it without these issues

you might want to consider the level of empathy in your approach and whether it's driven towards helping all people or just helping some people

if the goal is exclusively to end male mass murderers but do absolutely nothing about male suicides, expect men to tune out from the proposed solutions
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Darkman124 posted...

i think feminists are more than happy to acknowledge it.

Depending on your flavor of feminism, though, that won't get you very far. They'll respond to your "it's not men's fault, it's society's fault" by explaining that in this patriarchy it's women who raise the kids so blaming society is blaming women for something men are doing.
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scar the 1 posted...

Depending on your flavor of feminism, though, that won't get you very far. They'll respond to your "it's not men's fault, it's society's fault" by explaining that in this patriarchy it's women who raise the kids so blaming society is blaming women for something men are doing.

i don't see why this is particularly troubling

actions don't exist in a vacuum
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Darkman124 posted...

i manage to address it without these issues

My complaint is that these are issues that should be non-partisan, but get heavily discredited in public discourse. You're quite skilled at doing proper analysis and structuring your thoughts. But sadly you're far from public discourse.
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scar the 1 posted...

My complaint is that these are issues that should be non-partisan, but get heavily discredited in public discourse. You're quite skilled at doing proper analysis and structuring your thoughts. But sadly you're far from public discourse.

i am simply noting that the challenges in public discourse are as much driven by resistance to change from society as they are flaws in the proposed changes

but yes, i am not a politician. i don't think i'd handle politics well, honestly.
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courier_nv posted...

Zodd3224 posted...

This sounds made up and untrue.

I guess you've never been to r hapa

One section of reddit does not equal "a lot." You have proof that half Asian's are more likely to hate themselves than other people?
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Darkman124 posted...

scar the 1 posted...

My complaint is that these are issues that should be non-partisan, but get heavily discredited in public discourse. You're quite skilled at doing proper analysis and structuring your thoughts. But sadly you're far from public discourse.

i am simply noting that the challenges in public discourse are as much driven by resistance to change from society as they are flaws in the proposed changes

but yes, i am not a politician. i don't think i'd handle politics well, honestly.

Wouldn't we all?

Yeah that's another annoying thing. Proposed changes are rarely meant to address issues in a sustainable way, rather they're the ad campaign of the politician.
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Women are more likely to take the world as it is, whatever their lot in life is. Men however will try and make the world into their image. Damn near everything that exists in the world from technology to skyscrapers to our societies were built by the hands and sacrifices of men.

Men are basically "doers", mostly this is positive but when a man becomes angry with the world, with his fate, with society, he is much more likely to lash out violently.
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Omega Hunter posted...

Women are more likely to take the world as it is, whatever their lot in life is. Men however will try and make the world into their image. Damn near everything that exists in the world from technology to skyscrapers to our societies were built by the hands and sacrifices of men.

Men are basically "doers", mostly this is positive but when a man becomes angry with the world, with his fate, with society, he is much more likely to lash out violently.

Why do you think this is? Do you think it's just in men's nature, or do you think we as a society help to nurture men and women into these stereotypes?
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scar the 1 posted...

Omega Hunter posted...

Women are more likely to take the world as it is, whatever their lot in life is. Men however will try and make the world into their image. Damn near everything that exists in the world from technology to skyscrapers to our societies were built by the hands and sacrifices of men.

Men are basically "doers", mostly this is positive but when a man becomes angry with the world, with his fate, with society, he is much more likely to lash out violently.

Why do you think this is? Do you think it's just in men's nature, or do you think we as a society help to nurture men and women into these stereotypes?

Obviously a little of both. But mostly nature. Testosterone makes men more lilely to take risks, more likely to do dangerous things, of course it also makes men stronger and sturdier...more likely to survive said risks. This has always been the cae and will alwayd be the case.

Just as women are valuable simply for being women (and able to birth children) men are only valuable for what they can do. Now you can say that that's societal but it is society following biology. What society has stopped doing is making sure to value men. Men need responsibilities, they need respect, they need to feel like they have power even if it is only within their own tiny circle. We used to have a society that afforded all men a certain level of respect, thats gone. We used to have a society that basically made sure near everyone was married (2 birds with 1 stone you give a man sex and responsibility over his family), now thats gone.

The most important thing is you used to have people connected to a community. Where you and your family were being judged all the time and everyone knew people and had expectations of each other. Now you have soo many people alone with their computers and their own thoughts...its dangerous.
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Snoopyfemme was actually a neo-nazi. Though she may have preferred just being called a nazi.

Weird stuff, that.


Anyway this issue will NEVER be discussed constructively, it's doomed from the getgo, and the reason is simple:

People see the question: "why are men so much more likely to go on shooting sprees than women" and there are two sides that see this question, and rush to answer. One side is going to say something like "this is because of the oppressive pressures and expectations society puts on men. It makes them suicidal. It destroys their self worth. Kills them with anxiety. Loneliness. Fills them with rage. Some lash out this way" and the other side is gonna say something at the same time, along the lines of "it's because society coddles men and the moment their privilege fails them, all that they feel entitled to because of the patriarchy causes them to lash out violently, because men by nature are violent, ruthless, animalistic and dangerous"

And those sides will look at each other, and see nothing but blood and the resulting conflict renders any semblance of coherency void, leaving nothing but a hate-filled wasteland.
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Omega Hunter posted...

Obviously a little of both. But mostly nature. Testosterone makes men more lilely to take risks, more likely to do dangerous things, of course it also makes men stronger and sturdier...more likely to survive said risks. This has always been the cae and will alwayd be the case.

Just as women are valuable simply for being women (and able to birth children) men are only valuable for what they can do. Now you can say that that's societal but it is society following biology. What society has stopped doing is making sure to value men. Men need responsibilities, they need respect, they need to feel like they have power even if it is only within their own tiny circle. We used to have a society that afforded all men a certain level of respect, thats gone. We used to have a society that basically made sure near everyone was married (2 birds with 1 stone you give a man sex and responsibility over his family), now thats gone.

The most important thing is you used to have people connected to a community. Where you and your family were being judged all the time and everyone knew people and had expectations of each other. Now you have soo many people alone with their computers and their own thoughts...its dangerous.

I'm not very convinced, honestly. I think that there's a lot of people overestimating the impact of nature based on much too little evidence.
Furthermore, while nature might have initially shaped society and our norms, I don't necessarily think that it's beyond us to reshape it. While it's of course prudent to acknowledge biological differences between men and women, I think many assume causal relationships with these differences way too often, with too little evidence.
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Aeriis posted...

Snoopyfemme was hot.

You must have low standards. >_>
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The speed with which you produced an image of her is a bit...disturbing. <_<

You've... Oh nevermind I don't want to know.
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