Current Events > I thought mass shootings were impossible in a state like Texas

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Sativa_Rose posted...

It appears that an armed citizen forced the gunman to flee, and then pursued the gunman further. What a hero.

He had already left, he stopped nothing.
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Everything in the constitution should be subject to revision. Acting like it's untouchable is taking nationalism to ludicrous levels

Axiom posted...

Everything in the constitution should be subject to revision. Acting like it's untouchable is taking nationalism to ludicrous levels

It is subject to revision. The Constitution itself lays out the process for amending it.
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AlephZero posted...

Axiom posted...

Everything in the constitution should be subject to revision. Acting like it's untouchable is taking nationalism to ludicrous levels

It is subject to revision. The Constitution itself lays out the process for amending it.

We change laws every day without passing Amendments.
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Offworlder1 posted...

People being racist against white people, PC culture, and the whole check your privilege white male and women who claim all men saying hi to them are sexually harassing them.

Okay, racist remarks against whites should be considered hate speech. PC culture isn't a governmental body, and you're free to be as un PC as you want without fear of government retaliation. I'm not sure how the other things relate to free speech, maybe you can go into more detail? And as a reminder, free speech gives you protection from the government, not from citizens, although no one is going to attack you physically for not being PC, usually. Unless you're spouting Nazi rhetoric or throwing around racial slurs.
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

It appears that an armed citizen forced the gunman to flee, and then pursued the gunman further. What a hero.

He had already left, he stopped nothing.

I read from Heavy that the armed citizen forced the shooter to flee the church. Heavy is a Left-Center source.

Well some of these women, PC groups, and SJWs want to silence others so this is a possible solution to it. Not allow hate speech and stop sexist feminazis. Just saying that is another option for revising the 1st amendment.

Certain free speech should not be allowed, it should be a privilege like what the guy saying guns ahould be a privilege not a right.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

KiwiTerraRizing posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

It appears that an armed citizen forced the gunman to flee, and then pursued the gunman further. What a hero.

He had already left, he stopped nothing.

I read from Heavy that the armed citizen forced the shooter to flee the church. Heavy is a Left-Center source.

I read it on reuters

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-texas-shooting/texas-gunman-kills-at-least-26-worshipers-at-small-town-church-idUSKBN1D510F
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Offworlder1 posted...

Well some of these women, PC groups, and SJWs want to silence others so this is a possible solution to it. Not allow hate speech and stop sexist feminazis. Just saying that is another option for revising the 1st amendment.

Certain free speech should not be allowed, it should be a privilege like what the guy saying guns ahould be a privilege not a right.

If certain free speech shouldn't be allowed, then you can no longer call it free speech at all. The entire point of free speech is that you're "free" to "speak" unless you're inviting violence or something like that, in which case the authorities rightfully get involved and etcetera

Wanting to silent speech just because you don't agree with it is probably the most SJW thing I've heard
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Offworlder1 posted...

Well some of these women, PC groups, and SJWs want to silence others

They can't do anything on a large scale.

Offworlder1 posted...

Certain free speech should not be allowed

If you don't like it, deal with it or leave, according to several people here.
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@Offworlder1, are you an SJW?
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No, not a SJW, I am strongly against them, PC culture, and the hate speech by a lot of people in these groups as well as the modern feminists condemn men.

Against hate speech against white men, how whites should check their privilege and all that other horse shit.

I do think the PC, SJW, and modern feminists that spout hate speech should be silenced as hate speech is wrong.
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Offworlder1 posted...

No, not a SJW, I am strongly against them, PC culture, and the hate speech by a lot of people in these groups an the modern feminists condemn men.

Against hate speech against white men, how whites should check their privilege and all that other horse shit.

I do think the PC, SJW, and modern feminists that spout hate speech should be silenced as hate speech is wrong.

Then you aren't for free speech, because you don't think those with differing views should speak their minds

You're either an SJW, or a fascist fanboy. Pick one
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Yeah i don't understand how sjw is an insult.

It's like when the school bully calls someone nerd for reading a book.
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3khc posted...

Yeah i don't understand how sjw is an insult.

It's like when the school bully calls someone nerd for reading a book.

They mean people who take SJWism to its extreme. Like this:

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/nov/14/rosetta-comet-dr-matt-taylor-apology-sexist-shirt
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@Samurontai

So in your book a person is either a SJW or a fascist, some tolorance you have there. Sounds like something a hate speech spouting SJW would say your one of us or the enemy.

Well guess what I cant stand fascists or SJWs and am neither.
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Offworlder1 posted...

@Samurontai

So in your book a person is either a SJW or a fascist, some tolorance you have there. Sounds like something a hate speech spouting SJW would say your one of us or the enemy.

Well guess what I cant stand fascists or SJWs and am neither.

If you want to limit someone else's speech just because you disagree with what they're saying then yeah you could easily fit into either of those characters

Or both I guess. Are you a fascist SJW?
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@Samurontai

I am against hate speech like the anti white people shit that is popular with SJWs right now and the check your privilege shit they support. That is hate speech and I am against that, same way I am against people who are racist against blacks, muslums, asians, etc.

So no I am not a SJW or a fascist but your proving my points with your posts.
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Offworlder1 posted...

@Samurontai

I am against hate speech like the anti white people shit that is popular with SJWs right now and the check your privilege shit they support. That is hate speech and I am against that, same way I am against people who are racist against blacks, muslums, asians, etc.

So no I am not a SJW or a fascist but your proving my points with your posts.

You literally want to silence speech.
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Is it wrong to want to silence hate speech ?
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Offworlder1 posted...

Is it wrong to want to silence hate speech ?

Yes, though unlike some people, I will not demand you to leave the country for having an opposing opinion than me on free speech
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Offworlder1 posted...

Is it wrong to want to silence hate speech ?

"Check your privilege" isn't hate speech. Anti white rhetoric should be, I agree with that. Anti any race speech should be considered hate speech.
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GATTJT posted...

Offworlder1 posted...

Is it wrong to want to silence hate speech ?

"Check your privilege" isn't hate speech. Anti white rhetoric should be, I agree with that. Anti any race speech should be considered hate speech.

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Offworlder1 posted...

Is it wrong to want to silence hate speech ?

I think hate speech of any kind should be perfectly legal, as long as it doesn't lead to any kind of harm to people or whatever

It's why I don't care when white nationalist do their stupid hill billy rallies
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

KiwiTerraRizing posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

It appears that an armed citizen forced the gunman to flee, and then pursued the gunman further. What a hero.

He had already left, he stopped nothing.

I read from Heavy that the armed citizen forced the shooter to flee the church. Heavy is a Left-Center source.

The guy was in the house across the street from the church.

He went inside, got his gun, and fired a shot at the shooter from behind. At which point the shooter fled.

He wasnt an armed citizen. Just a guy with a gun in his closet.
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divot1338 posted...

He wasnt an armed citizen. Just a guy with a gun

What
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Sharpshooting plumber fired shot that took down Texas church gunman
http://nypost.com/2017/11/06/sharpshooting-plumber-fired-shot-that-took-down-texas-church-gunman/

The man hailed as a hero for confronting the Texas mass shooter during his rampage is a sharpshooting plumber with no military background who hit the gunman through a gap in his body armor, according to a report.

Stephen Willeford managed to shoot Devin Kelley before jumping in another mans truck and chasing him down, the Daily Mail reported.

Kelley blew himself away after wiping out in his SUV, according to Wilson County Sheriff Joe Tackitt.

Texas Department of Public Safety chief Freeman Martin said Willeford grabbed his rifle and engaged the suspect after Kelley left the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, where he opened fire with an assault rifle and killed 26 people.

An area resident told the paper that Willeford, an avid biker who attends another church, learned about the shooting when his daughter called to say a man clad in body armor was shooting worshipers.

The local said that although Willeford has no military background, he didnt hesitate when he came face to face with the suspect and managed to squeeze off a round that struck the gunman, who had dropped his Ruger AR-15 variant.

He killed 27 people and youre focused on Hooray for guns! Stopped a bad guy!

27 people
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