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Cardboard-Box
11/02/17 5:21:51 PM
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So many people coming out. It's getting scary.
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Patty_Fleur
11/02/17 5:22:18 PM
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Modern day Salem witch trials
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Darmik
11/02/17 5:22:33 PM
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Maybe. It's more common than a lot of people seem to think it is.
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dodgefan91
11/02/17 5:26:28 PM
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I think it's a combination of the fact that it was always common but is now being reported on more often because of social media and also because the standards of society has changed. Things that may not have been considered sexual harassment 30 years ago are viewed as just that nowadays.
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Yaridovich
11/02/17 5:26:59 PM
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I sexually abused myself last night
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Patty_Fleur
11/02/17 5:29:02 PM
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Literally anyone can accuse someone of sexual assault with 0 proof fucking years later after it allegedly happened and ruin somones life. This shit is getting ridiculous.

Sexual violence is bad but I can take the sheer amount of these recently seriously.
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Antifar
11/02/17 5:29:55 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
Literally anyone can accuse someone of sexual assault with 0 proof fucking years later after it allegedly happened and ruin somones life. This shit is getting ridiculous.

It's weird to say this in 2017, when the president is Donald Trump.
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masticatingman
11/02/17 5:30:27 PM
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Our culture is hyper-sexualized so I honestly don't think it's that surprising. I think it's kinda at the forefront of most people's minds these days. But even in strictly religious countries, this sort of stuff happens all the time. Not sure what that means.
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Darmik
11/02/17 5:30:53 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
Literally anyone can accuse someone of sexual assault with 0 proof fucking years later after it allegedly happened and ruin somones life. This shit is getting ridiculous.

Sexual violence is bad but I can take the sheer amount of these recently seriously.


Which specific stories do you find ridiculous or hard to believe?
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Patty_Fleur
11/02/17 5:31:48 PM
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Darmik posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
Literally anyone can accuse someone of sexual assault with 0 proof fucking years later after it allegedly happened and ruin somones life. This shit is getting ridiculous.

Sexual violence is bad but I can take the sheer amount of these recently seriously.


Which specific stories do you find ridiculous or hard to believe?


An ugly guy asked me out. #metoo
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Axiom
11/02/17 5:32:55 PM
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It's always been more common than some people believed it to be. I've heard multiple first hand stories going all the way back in highschool from girls ranging from waking up from being passed out with a guy on top of them to being forced to suck a guy's dick or be left on the side of the road
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Darmik
11/02/17 5:33:53 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
Darmik posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
Literally anyone can accuse someone of sexual assault with 0 proof fucking years later after it allegedly happened and ruin somones life. This shit is getting ridiculous.

Sexual violence is bad but I can take the sheer amount of these recently seriously.


Which specific stories do you find ridiculous or hard to believe?


An ugly guy asked me out. #metoo


Don't know why I bothered asking.
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Cardboard-Box
11/02/17 5:36:25 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
Darmik posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
Literally anyone can accuse someone of sexual assault with 0 proof fucking years later after it allegedly happened and ruin somones life. This shit is getting ridiculous.

Sexual violence is bad but I can take the sheer amount of these recently seriously.


Which specific stories do you find ridiculous or hard to believe?


An ugly guy asked me out. #metoo


Do you believe Kevin Spacey is innocent?
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Patty_Fleur
11/02/17 5:36:51 PM
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Darmik posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
Darmik posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
Literally anyone can accuse someone of sexual assault with 0 proof fucking years later after it allegedly happened and ruin somones life. This shit is getting ridiculous.

Sexual violence is bad but I can take the sheer amount of these recently seriously.


Which specific stories do you find ridiculous or hard to believe?


An ugly guy asked me out. #metoo


Don't know why I bothered asking.


So 100 percent of people who accuse someone if sexual assault should be believed 100 percent of the time? Fuck that.

I know it's a big problem but we cant have have mere accusations ruining people.
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Antifar
11/02/17 5:37:37 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
I know it's a big problem but we cant have have mere accusations ruining people.

Who has been ruined, exactly? Who has even gone to court?
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Patty_Fleur
11/02/17 5:37:48 PM
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Cardboard-Box posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
Darmik posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
Literally anyone can accuse someone of sexual assault with 0 proof fucking years later after it allegedly happened and ruin somones life. This shit is getting ridiculous.

Sexual violence is bad but I can take the sheer amount of these recently seriously.


Which specific stories do you find ridiculous or hard to believe?


An ugly guy asked me out. #metoo


Do you believe Kevin Spacey is innocent?


He's not going to get into trouble for it so why bother?
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Darmik
11/02/17 5:37:57 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
So 100 percent of people who accuse someone if sexual assault should be believed 100 percent of the time? Fuck that.

I know it's a big problem but we cant have have mere accusations ruining people.


Darmik posted...
Which specific stories do you find ridiculous or hard to believe?

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Antifar
11/02/17 5:38:40 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
He's not going to get into trouble for it so why bother?

How do you reconcile this thought with your claim that accusations are ruining lives?
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Cardboard-Box
11/02/17 5:39:26 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
Cardboard-Box posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
Darmik posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
Literally anyone can accuse someone of sexual assault with 0 proof fucking years later after it allegedly happened and ruin somones life. This shit is getting ridiculous.

Sexual violence is bad but I can take the sheer amount of these recently seriously.


Which specific stories do you find ridiculous or hard to believe?


An ugly guy asked me out. #metoo


Do you believe Kevin Spacey is innocent?


He's not going to get into trouble for it so why bother?


He has already got into trouble. I was hoping for a straight answer, like "yes" or "no". Do you believe he's innocent?
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ChromaticAngel
11/02/17 5:39:42 PM
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Cardboard-Box posted...
So many people coming out. It's getting scary.


"lol sexual assault isn't that common, if 1/5 women were sexually assaulted almost everyone would be a rapist"

*turns out almost everyone in hollywood is a rapist*

"haha liberals"
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dodgefan91
11/02/17 5:40:33 PM
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Darmik posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
Literally anyone can accuse someone of sexual assault with 0 proof fucking years later after it allegedly happened and ruin somones life. This shit is getting ridiculous.

Sexual violence is bad but I can take the sheer amount of these recently seriously.


Which specific stories do you find ridiculous or hard to believe?


I don't think it's unreasonable to be suspicious of the Kevin Spacey accusation. A 14yr old kid could easily have simply misread an awkward situation with a drunk guy stumbling back to his bed. And if he misread the situation, years and years of thinking it was something else could have distorted his memory and added/removed things that didn't actually happen.

I'm not saying that I believe that's what happened, but when something comes out 20-30 years later and there is zero evidence other than what someone remember at 14 years old, it's just not a lot to go on.
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Patty_Fleur
11/02/17 5:40:41 PM
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Antifar posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
He's not going to get into trouble for it so why bother?

How do you reconcile this thought with your claim that accusations are ruining lives?


They just cancelled house of cards over these acuussations of stuff decades ago.

We got people accusing the dead if sexual assault. Recent news has been so saturated with all these sexual assault stories I honestly just don't give a fuck anymore. You
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Darmik
11/02/17 5:43:16 PM
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dodgefan91 posted...
Darmik posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
Literally anyone can accuse someone of sexual assault with 0 proof fucking years later after it allegedly happened and ruin somones life. This shit is getting ridiculous.

Sexual violence is bad but I can take the sheer amount of these recently seriously.


Which specific stories do you find ridiculous or hard to believe?


I don't think it's unreasonable to be suspicious of the Kevin Spacey accusation. A 14yr old kid could easily have simply misread an awkward situation with a drunk guy stumbling back to his bed. And if he misread the situation, years and years of thinking it was something else could have distorted his memory and added/removed things that didn't actually happen.

I'm not saying that I believe that's what happened, but when something comes out 20-30 years later and there is zero evidence other than what someone remember at 14 years old, it's just not a lot to go on.


People have said similar stories about Kevin Spacey before this came out. They just never caught on.
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CensorErik
11/02/17 5:43:40 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
Darmik posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
Literally anyone can accuse someone of sexual assault with 0 proof fucking years later after it allegedly happened and ruin somones life. This shit is getting ridiculous.

Sexual violence is bad but I can take the sheer amount of these recently seriously.


Which specific stories do you find ridiculous or hard to believe?


An ugly guy asked me out. #metoo

So you have nothing to actually discuss. Noted.

I think it's always been there but it's so much easier to shine a light on it today without the same level of fear of retribution. For example, the Dustin Hoffman situation. That intern could've been fired and blacklisted if he wanted. Lucky for her he wasn't feeling vindictive that day and she also had no real interest in working in the film industry.

Today it's less likely you'd get fired for reporting sexual harassment. I'm sure it still happens, unfortunately, but it's less common, probably.
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Antifar
11/02/17 5:44:00 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
Recent news has been so saturated with all these sexual assault stories I honestly just don't give a fuck anymore.

See, I think this is the wrong reaction to have: the fact that it happens so often makes it a bigger problem, not a smaller one.
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Gamer99z
11/02/17 5:44:54 PM
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Yaridovich posted...
I sexually abused myself last night

Show me where that son of a bitch lives, I'll take care of him for you. He won't be hurting you anymore.
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yusiko
11/02/17 5:45:58 PM
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The Great Muta 22
11/02/17 5:45:59 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
So 100 percent of people who accuse someone if sexual assault should be believed 100 percent of the time? Fuck that.

I know it's a big problem but we cant have have mere accusations ruining people.


That's quite the jump to an extreme for what he said
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Yaridovich
11/02/17 5:46:19 PM
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Gamer99z posted...
Yaridovich posted...
I sexually abused myself last night

Show me where that son of a bitch lives, I'll take care of him for you. He won't be hurting you anymore.


I think he's in the house with me
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CensorErik
11/02/17 5:47:01 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
Antifar posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
He's not going to get into trouble for it so why bother?

How do you reconcile this thought with your claim that accusations are ruining lives?


They just cancelled house of cards over these acuussations of stuff decades ago.

We got people accusing the dead if sexual assault. Recent news has been so saturated with all these sexual assault stories I honestly just don't give a fuck anymore. You

Um, it's cancelled...after the final season is already done, so...
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Patty_Fleur
11/02/17 5:47:13 PM
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Antifar posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
Recent news has been so saturated with all these sexual assault stories I honestly just don't give a fuck anymore.

See, I think this is the wrong reaction to have: the fact that it happens so often makes it a bigger problem, not a smaller one.


I'm pretty sure a lot of men have the same reaction.
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dodgefan91
11/02/17 5:48:13 PM
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Darmik posted...


People have said similar stories about Kevin Spacey before this came out. They just never caught on.


If that is the case, it certainly adds some validity to the claim. Admittedly, I haven't been following the story that much, the one accusation is all I had heard of.

Honestly when these stories come out about high profile celebrities or people in power, I almost always feel like I wouldn't be surprised either way.
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Gamer99z
11/02/17 5:48:39 PM
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Yaridovich posted...
Gamer99z posted...
Yaridovich posted...
I sexually abused myself last night

Show me where that son of a bitch lives, I'll take care of him for you. He won't be hurting you anymore.


I think he's in the house with me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1chFxv0JllA

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The Great Muta 22
11/02/17 5:49:47 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
I'm pretty sure a lot of men have the same reaction.


Then they are morons
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Patty_Fleur
11/02/17 5:50:45 PM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
I'm pretty sure a lot of men have the same reaction.


Then they are morons


So I'm a moron because I don't fucking care?
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Antifar
11/02/17 5:50:54 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
I'm pretty sure a lot of men have the same reaction.

This is part of the problem.
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yusiko
11/02/17 5:51:15 PM
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Darmik
11/02/17 5:51:35 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
Antifar posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
Recent news has been so saturated with all these sexual assault stories I honestly just don't give a fuck anymore.

See, I think this is the wrong reaction to have: the fact that it happens so often makes it a bigger problem, not a smaller one.


I'm pretty sure a lot of men have the same reaction.


So even though sexual abuse might be common you don't give a shit because there's too many. Got it.
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Parappa09
11/02/17 5:51:49 PM
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ask your friends who are women and i'm sure at least 1 in 4 will admit that they've been sexually harassed in the workplace

it's pretty bad but certain men in positions of power have been abusing it for years when it comes to sexual harassment, promotions, nepotism in hiring people because of looks/friendships/family, etc
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Ammonitida
11/02/17 5:52:48 PM
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Yes! They're raping everybody out here!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyC5FpLewYY
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Patty_Fleur
11/02/17 5:53:39 PM
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Parappa09 posted...
ask your friends who are women and i'm sure at least 1 in 4 will admit that they've been sexually harassed in the workplace

it's pretty bad but certain men in positions of power have been abusing it for years when it comes to sexual harassment, promotions, nepotism in hiring people because of looks/friendships/family, etc


I have nothing to do with it though.
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Antifar
11/02/17 5:55:54 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
I have nothing to do with it though.

You allow it to continue when you turn a willful blind eye towards it, when you dismiss it as "not worth caring about" because it happens too often.
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EpicKingdom_
11/02/17 5:56:50 PM
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Yaridovich posted...
I sexually abused myself last night
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Patty_Fleur
11/02/17 5:57:31 PM
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Antifar posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
I have nothing to do with it though.

You allow it to continue when you turn a willful blind eye towards it, when you dismiss it as "not worth caring about" because it happens too often.


Never seen it occur
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CensorErik
11/02/17 5:59:15 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
Parappa09 posted...
ask your friends who are women and i'm sure at least 1 in 4 will admit that they've been sexually harassed in the workplace

it's pretty bad but certain men in positions of power have been abusing it for years when it comes to sexual harassment, promotions, nepotism in hiring people because of looks/friendships/family, etc


I have nothing to do with it though.

Sociopathy is strong in this one.
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Naysaspace
11/02/17 6:00:29 PM
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Very common and underreported

Trouble with big tidal waves like this is there will always been latcher-onners who consider (for example) an accidental brush with an elbow, sexual abuse.
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Parappa09
11/02/17 6:02:14 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
Parappa09 posted...
ask your friends who are women and i'm sure at least 1 in 4 will admit that they've been sexually harassed in the workplace

it's pretty bad but certain men in positions of power have been abusing it for years when it comes to sexual harassment, promotions, nepotism in hiring people because of looks/friendships/family, etc


I have nothing to do with it though.

jeez what a response
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Darmik
11/02/17 6:04:43 PM
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The guys only concern over sexual assault is if a fellow man is falsely accused. Kinda says it all really.
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OpheliaAdenade
11/02/17 6:06:39 PM
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I assure you the real concern is the possibility of a man being falsely accused of it. Not the people actually being abused.
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yusiko
11/02/17 6:06:41 PM
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Darmik posted...
The guys only concern over sexual assault is if a fellow man is falsely accused. Kinda says it all really.


its patty
if you want to know what kind of guy he is let me tell you the story of how i met him

it was after the orlando shooting
i saw a topic he made about it
the topic was him complaining about all the media coverage it was getting and how people should just let it go already

this was less than a day after the shooting
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