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JoeyBowey
11/01/17 12:12:56 PM
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That_Happened posted...
This isn't even remotely true. Not by Nevada law or even federal law.


uh, yes it is.

US CODE 18 2331 Defines Terrorism:

(B) appear to be intended
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
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Ricemills
11/01/17 12:14:52 PM
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JoeyBowey posted...
Malcolm_McGuffi posted...

I'm pretty sure Al Qaida never owned any cities and they still blew up two buildings and killed 4000 people on 9/11 dude. Territory =/= power.


hahahahaha

lol, it significantly reduces their influence and their ability to recruit.

ISIS stands for Islamic STATE


sums up american view on foreign issue since when they can't see the difference between alqaeda and isil.
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s0nicfan
11/01/17 12:15:29 PM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
Trumps policies are making us more vulnerable to terrorism, not less. We cannot continue to demagogue Muslims. It just promotes radicalization.


If pointing out that Islam causes constant terrorist attacks is going to radicalize Muslims to commit terrorist attacks, then maybe, just maybe the problem isn't with our criticism.


"Don't call them violent or they'll kill us!"
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coolboy11
11/01/17 12:15:49 PM
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it's actually really impressive how effective Homeland security and the NYPD has done on preventing attacks on any of the big 3 cities tbh.
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Waluigi7
11/01/17 12:16:43 PM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
Trumps policies are making us more vulnerable to terrorism, not less. We cannot continue to demagogue Muslims. It just promotes radicalization.


If pointing out that Islam causes constant terrorist attacks is going to radicalize Muslims to commit terrorist attacks, then maybe, just maybe the problem isn't with our criticism.

You mean like the excuse conservatives used when they said liberals forced them to vote for Trump?
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Wolf_J_Flywheel
11/01/17 12:16:48 PM
#59:


Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
So far under your Orange Jesus we've had:

- The biggest mass shooting in US history
- The biggest terrorist attack in NYC since 9/11
- The biggest spike in white supremacist violence since the 1970s

Maybe something about Trumps policies isn't working????

Trumps policies are being held up by turncoat republicans and ideological judges. Obamas policies have ruled the land for 8 years leading to these things.
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NINExATExSEVEN
11/01/17 12:19:07 PM
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Waluigi7 posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
Trumps policies are making us more vulnerable to terrorism, not less. We cannot continue to demagogue Muslims. It just promotes radicalization.


If pointing out that Islam causes constant terrorist attacks is going to radicalize Muslims to commit terrorist attacks, then maybe, just maybe the problem isn't with our criticism.

You mean like the excuse conservatives used when they said liberals forced them to vote for Trump?


That makes no sense. What are you grasping at?
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Malcolm_McGuffi
11/01/17 12:19:30 PM
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Waluigi7 posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
Trumps policies are making us more vulnerable to terrorism, not less. We cannot continue to demagogue Muslims. It just promotes radicalization.


If pointing out that Islam causes constant terrorist attacks is going to radicalize Muslims to commit terrorist attacks, then maybe, just maybe the problem isn't with our criticism.

You mean like the excuse conservatives used when they said liberals forced them to vote for Trump?

Oh man that is such a good point.
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Wolf_J_Flywheel
11/01/17 12:19:50 PM
#62:


Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
So far under your Orange Jesus we've had:

- The biggest mass shooting in US history
- The biggest terrorist attack in NYC since 9/11
- The biggest spike in white supremacist violence since the 1970s

Maybe something about Trumps policies isn't working????

Trumps policies are being held up by turncoat republicans and ideological judges. Obamas policies have ruled the land for 8 years leading to these things. Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
masticatingman posted...
The terrorist came in under Obamas watch.

Whats your counter argument?

He was recruited and radicalized under Trump, and Trump's Muslim ban didn't do a damn thing to keep anybody safe. In fact it played a big part in radicalizing this mofo. No way for Muslims to assimilate if you're otherizing and ostracizing them and banning them from the country. These policies promote radicalization and therefore terrorism.

Trump's TRAVEL BAN does not affect a lot of Muslim majority countries. Only a handful. Are you pretending to be dumb to help add credit to your ranting?
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Heineken14
11/01/17 12:19:55 PM
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Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...
Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
So far under your Orange Jesus we've had:

- The biggest mass shooting in US history
- The biggest terrorist attack in NYC since 9/11
- The biggest spike in white supremacist violence since the 1970s

Maybe something about Trumps policies isn't working????

Trumps policies are being held up by turncoat republicans and ideological judges. Obamas policies have ruled the land for 8 years leading to these things.


LIBERAL ACTIVIST JUDGES!!11 - right wingers when things don't go their way
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s0nicfan
11/01/17 12:22:58 PM
#64:


Heineken14 posted...
Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...
Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
So far under your Orange Jesus we've had:

- The biggest mass shooting in US history
- The biggest terrorist attack in NYC since 9/11
- The biggest spike in white supremacist violence since the 1970s

Maybe something about Trumps policies isn't working????

Trumps policies are being held up by turncoat republicans and ideological judges. Obamas policies have ruled the land for 8 years leading to these things.


LIBERAL ACTIVIST JUDGES!!11 - right wingers when things don't go their way


I mean.. the travel ban has been blocked by the same Hawaii court 3 times in a row now. I think every single blockage of a Trump order has been made by either the 9th circuit or the hawaii court. In Hawaii's case their justification for blocking the travel ban is "it'll hurt tourism" so there's SOME validity to that claim.
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southcoast09
11/01/17 12:25:14 PM
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Shut the fuck up.
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Malcolm_McGuffi
11/01/17 12:34:28 PM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...
If pointing out that Islam causes constant terrorist attacks

Islam causes constant terrorist attacks? Oh but guns don't have anything to do with shootings. Lol.
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thelovefist
11/01/17 12:35:26 PM
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Your shitposting seems to be growing in intensity ROD. How can you explain that?
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Malcolm_McGuffi
11/01/17 12:36:49 PM
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thelovefist posted...
Your shitposting seems to be growing in intensity ROD. How can you explain that?

I cannot because I am not ROD

Why do you always try to troll me? Are you a Red Hat too?
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thelovefist
11/01/17 12:41:34 PM
#69:


Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
thelovefist posted...
Your shitposting seems to be growing in intensity ROD. How can you explain that?

I cannot because I am not ROD


ROD pls
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DarkProto05
11/01/17 12:45:16 PM
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The Nevada shooter is just as much of a terrorist as the truck driver.

When brown people cause havoc there is always the theory that they are terrorists even if their motives say otherwise. White people are almost never accused of terrorism no matter how heinous their crimes are.

It's a problem. Don't deny it.
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s0nicfan
11/01/17 12:46:26 PM
#71:


DarkProto05 posted...
The Nevada shooter is just as much of a terrorist as the truck driver.

When brown people cause havoc there is always the theory that they are terrorists even if their motives say otherwise. White people are almost never accused of terrorism no matter how heinous their crimes are.

It's a problem. Don't deny it.


Theory? He had a manifesto in his car declaring loyalty to ISIS.
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FrenchCrunch
11/01/17 12:47:52 PM
#72:


DarkProto05 posted...
The Nevada shooter is just as much of a terrorist as the truck driver.

When brown people cause havoc there is always the theory that they are terrorists even if their motives say otherwise. White people are almost never accused of terrorism no matter how heinous their crimes are.

It's a problem. Don't deny it.

the truck driver had a letter claiming the attack was in ISIS' name

the vegas shooter did not
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Malcolm_McGuffi
11/01/17 12:48:03 PM
#73:


s0nicfan posted...

Theory? He had a manifesto in his car declaring loyalty to ISIS.

So?
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thelovefist
11/01/17 12:48:56 PM
#74:


Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
s0nicfan posted...

Theory? He had a manifesto in his car declaring loyalty to ISIS.

So?

The part you deleted from the quote explained that ROD. I ask again, why are you ramping up your shitposting?
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s0nicfan
11/01/17 12:49:14 PM
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Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
s0nicfan posted...

Theory? He had a manifesto in his car declaring loyalty to ISIS.

So?


So it's not a "theory" that he is a terrorist. He literally declared himself one. There's no ambiguity about his motivations.
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Malcolm_McGuffi
11/01/17 12:49:28 PM
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WaPo now reporting the terrorist was radicalized here in the US thanks to Trump btw. Like I've been saying all along.

Don't promote policies that divide us based on religion and radicalize people.
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Malcolm_McGuffi
11/01/17 12:50:42 PM
#77:


s0nicfan posted...
Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
s0nicfan posted...

Theory? He had a manifesto in his car declaring loyalty to ISIS.

So?


So it's not a "theory" that he is a terrorist. He literally declared himself one. There's no ambiguity about his motivations.

And? What's your point?
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thelovefist
11/01/17 12:50:43 PM
#78:


Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
WaPo now reporting the terrorist was radicalized here in the US thanks to Trump btw.

Citation needed
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NINExATExSEVEN
11/01/17 12:50:54 PM
#79:


Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
If pointing out that Islam causes constant terrorist attacks

Islam causes constant terrorist attacks? Oh but guns don't have anything to do with shootings. Lol.


Islam is an ideology that can be radicalized and guns are inanimate objects. Islam causes people to kill, guns are used to kill by anybody.

Are you finished being dense?
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thelovefist
11/01/17 12:51:26 PM
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ROD is going all out with the bait. I expect his account will join the fate soon of the legion of other alts he's had banned.
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DarkProto05
11/01/17 12:51:45 PM
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FrenchCrunch posted...
DarkProto05 posted...
The Nevada shooter is just as much of a terrorist as the truck driver.

When brown people cause havoc there is always the theory that they are terrorists even if their motives say otherwise. White people are almost never accused of terrorism no matter how heinous their crimes are.

It's a problem. Don't deny it.

the truck driver had a letter claiming the attack was in ISIS' name

the vegas shooter did not

I wasn't talking about this specific brown guy. The Orlando club shooter is a better example. Accused of being a terrorist but he was just homophobic.
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Malcolm_McGuffi
11/01/17 12:51:58 PM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Islam is an ideology that can be radicalized and guns are inanimate objects. Islam causes people to kill, guns are used to kill by anybody.

So guns are worse than Islam then, according to you.
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NINExATExSEVEN
11/01/17 12:54:08 PM
#83:


thelovefist posted...
ROD is going all out with the bait. I expect his account will join the fate soon of the legion of other alts he's had banned.


I'm pretty sure he's that Mario guy. Both overuse the term Red hats as an insult.
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NINExATExSEVEN
11/01/17 12:55:29 PM
#84:


Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Islam is an ideology that can be radicalized and guns are inanimate objects. Islam causes people to kill, guns are used to kill by anybody.

So guns are worse than Islam then, according to you.


Geez your reading comprehension is awful.
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Malcolm_McGuffi
11/01/17 12:57:06 PM
#85:


NINExATExSEVEN posted...
thelovefist posted...
ROD is going all out with the bait. I expect his account will join the fate soon of the legion of other alts he's had banned.


I'm pretty sure he's that Mario guy. Both overuse the term Red hats as an insult.

I mean, you're full of shit. But you already knew that. The racial stuff you indulge in is only half you. The other half you play up for the forums. It's why you're a gimmick poster.
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DirkDiggles
11/01/17 1:00:33 PM
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My God, people took ROD's bait topic seriously?
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NINExATExSEVEN
11/01/17 1:13:06 PM
#88:


Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
thelovefist posted...
ROD is going all out with the bait. I expect his account will join the fate soon of the legion of other alts he's had banned.


I'm pretty sure he's that Mario guy. Both overuse the term Red hats as an insult.

I mean, you're full of shit. But you already knew that. The racial stuff you indulge in is only half you. The other half you play up for the forums. It's why you're a gimmick poster.


Lol damn what's with the instant snapping at me because i think you're Mario?

Sounds like i struck a nerve.
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That_Happened
11/01/17 1:55:51 PM
#89:


JoeyBowey posted...
That_Happened posted...
This isn't even remotely true. Not by Nevada law or even federal law.


uh, yes it is.

US CODE 18 2331 Defines Terrorism:

(B) appear to be intended
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and


Thanks for proving me right. These 3 are individual options, not a collective of pre-requisites. All that it requires is the first.
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The Admiral
11/01/17 2:01:26 PM
#90:


thelovefist posted...
ROD is going all out with the bait. I expect his account will join the fate soon of the legion of other alts he's had banned.


Any idea how many alts is ROD currently using on CE? Is he also that SamuelHayden guy?
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thelovefist
11/01/17 2:02:54 PM
#91:


The Admiral posted...
thelovefist posted...
ROD is going all out with the bait. I expect his account will join the fate soon of the legion of other alts he's had banned.


Any idea how many alts is ROD currently using on CE? Is he also that SamuelHayden guy?

At any given time he is usually running 2-3 alts, so yeah it could be. The TC account is the only one I've id'd though so far.
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GreatEvilEmpire
11/01/17 2:18:40 PM
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Is TC in some sort of competition to become the dumbest CE user?
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The_Ivory_Man
11/01/17 4:59:46 PM
#93:


That_Happened posted...
JoeyBowey posted...
That_Happened posted...
This isn't even remotely true. Not by Nevada law or even federal law.


uh, yes it is.

US CODE 18 2331 Defines Terrorism:

(B) appear to be intended
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and


Thanks for proving me right. These 3 are individual options, not a collective of pre-requisites. All that it requires is the first.


So by your definition, a bank robber is a terrorist?
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Sephiroth1288
11/01/17 5:03:48 PM
#94:


Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
Trumps s***stain presidency has created a ripe climate for ISIS to radicalize and recruit terrorists

Don't blame Islam for creating terrorists, because of you do, they will become terrorists
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NINExATExSEVEN
11/01/17 5:03:53 PM
#95:


The_Ivory_Man posted...
That_Happened posted...
JoeyBowey posted...
That_Happened posted...
This isn't even remotely true. Not by Nevada law or even federal law.


uh, yes it is.

US CODE 18 2331 Defines Terrorism:

(B) appear to be intended
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and


Thanks for proving me right. These 3 are individual options, not a collective of pre-requisites. All that it requires is the first.


So by your definition, a bank robber is a terrorist?


Or gang violence. They're trying so hard to make something not terror related stick lol
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Samurontai
11/01/17 5:05:46 PM
#96:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
Trumps s***stain presidency has created a ripe climate for ISIS to radicalize and recruit terrorists

Don't blame Islam for creating terrorists, because of you do, they will become terrorists


Nobody thinks this, but it doesn't make the former claim any less true
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Sephiroth1288
11/01/17 5:50:34 PM
#97:


Samurontai posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
Trumps s***stain presidency has created a ripe climate for ISIS to radicalize and recruit terrorists

Don't blame Islam for creating terrorists, because of you do, they will become terrorists


Nobody thinks this, but it doesn't make the former claim any less true

If your argument is "Don't insult Muslims or they will kill you", you're basically proving islamophobes' point
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Samurontai
11/01/17 6:02:10 PM
#98:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
Samurontai posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
Trumps s***stain presidency has created a ripe climate for ISIS to radicalize and recruit terrorists

Don't blame Islam for creating terrorists, because of you do, they will become terrorists


Nobody thinks this, but it doesn't make the former claim any less true

If your argument is "Don't insult Muslims or they will kill you", you're basically proving islamophobes' point


No, the argument isn't even, I don't understand where you got that assumption from "don't insult Muslims or they'll kill you."
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Sephiroth1288
11/01/17 6:06:17 PM
#99:


Samurontai posted...
No, the argument isn't even, I don't understand where you got that assumption from "don't insult Muslims or they'll kill you."

I got it from here

Trumps s***stain presidency has created a ripe climate for ISIS to radicalize and recruit terrorists

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GreatEvilEmpire
11/01/17 7:38:40 PM
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This guy was on the radar since 2015. The feds questioned and released him in 2015. Doesn't this fall on Obama instead? After all, he was radicalized under the Obama.

If you're going to irrationally hate on Trump like an idiot, you can now also irrationally hate Obama like an idiot.
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