Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 144: Storming the Gates to capture the Manafort.

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this just in: california is a state of the US
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So we're up from "2-3 million" to "at least 5.7 million"? Interesting. Remember what I said about an actual challenge to my beliefs? Yeah, this isn't that.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

The left labels it fake news when they dont want to believe its true.

have you ever heard of a man by the name of donald trump
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Wow.

That's some impressive dodging.
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Peace___Frog posted...

So we're up from "2-3 million" to "at least 5.7 million"? Interesting. Remember what I said about an actual challenge to my beliefs? Yeah, this isn't that.

I just did a google search. While the number is still based on bad math (using extremely small sample sizes of an unverified survey to extrapolate into the millions), the even funnier thing is...the survey wasnt even about 2016. Its about the 2008 election.
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i did google it

and it was a claim made about 2008 data

that seems to have been massaged and fudged by a conservative thinktank using an unreliable survey

and discredited by at least three other sources

so yeah, I'll take the first hand if you've got it
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UltimaterializerX posted...

The DNC registering dead people is a pretty well known thing at this point.

[citation needed]
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FFDragon posted...

UltimaterializerX posted...

The DNC registering dead people is a pretty well known thing at this point.

[citation needed]

Yeah this. Even the bullshit data I found on Google says nothing about Democrat votes versus Republican votes.
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Ulti is in a conundrum because his options are: a) post no sources, or b) post a source and be wrong. Which is worse?
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he's going the vlado route and trying to absolve himself by telling us to do our own research
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FFDragon posted...

and discredited by at least three other sources

UltimaterializerX posted...

[Ulti] labels it fake news when they dont want to believe its true.

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Only sources saying things Ulti already believes are true, duh.
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jeez guys, there's dozens of studies showing the same results, are you all really that inept? you probably can't find them because google has bias towards leftist media, but try to reach for page 15 or so and you'll see them clear as day.
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Omniscientless posted...

jeez guys, there's dozens of studies showing the same results, are you all really that inept? you probably can't find them because google has bias towards leftist media, but try to reach for page 15 or so and you'll see them clear as day.

Not sure if serious. Good job if not.
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LapisLazuli posted...

Ulti is in a conundrum because his options are: a) post no sources, or b) post a source and be wrong. Which is worse?

As if he reads the sources he links.

also what the fuck why are you all giving ulti any attention at all

literally obsessed
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FFDragon posted...

UltimaterializerX posted...

The DNC registering dead people is a pretty well known thing at this point.

[citation needed]

It was on the Simpsons once!

Actually that was the Republican candidate Sideshow Bob.
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Peace___Frog posted...

he's going the vlado route and trying to absolve himself by telling us to do our own research

or he's gonna go "lol i was just trolling and you all fell for it"
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Not_an_Owl posted...

also what the fuck why are you all giving ulti any attention at all

I don't mind giving him the opportunity to prove his claims. He seems very much against fake news, so here's his chance to prove he doesn't peddle it.
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While I'm never surprised by Trump being terrible, I still am ocassionally surprised by his stupidity:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/925739132579729420

Like what the fuck is he under the impression the individual mandate does?
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*insert California deciding elections is no different than Florida/Pennsylvania deciding elections.*

Here's the results if states proportionally awarded their electoral votes using the D'Hondt method.

Clinton - 268
Trump - 265
Johnson - 2
Stein - 1
McMullin - 1

It at least shows the closeness of the election oppose to it appearing Trump won 57-43.

What a crazy period of time we could have been in if that result happened.
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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-hill-leaders-disagree-upcoming-tax-reform-bill/story?id=50863220

/dead
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I wonder if Ulti knows there are more Republicans in California than any other state besides Texas?
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LordoftheMorons posted...

While I'm never surprised by Trump being terrible, I still am ocassionally surprised by his stupidity:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/925739132579729420

Like what the fuck is he under the impression the individual mandate does?

little does he know, it actually lowers costs. Without it, premiums would be astronomically higher
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I wonder if Ulti knows

no
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Good article from reuters about how trump's charisma is actively hurting those who he promised to help.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1D14G0

Despite broad consensus about coal's bleak future, a years-long effort to diversify the economy of this hard-hit region away from mining is stumbling, with Obama-era jobs retraining classes undersubscribed and future programs at risk under President Donald Trumps proposed 2018 budget.

Trump has promised to revive coal by rolling back environmental regulations and moved to repeal Obama-era curbs on carbon emissions from power plants.

Coal isn't coming back, just like bronze and copper toolmaking won't be making a comeback, just like producing tube televisions won't be making a comeback, just like wooden shipbuilding won't be making a comeback. We need retraining for these workers; 45's proposed budget cuts funding for retaining programs, and those who are the target market for those programs believe him when he says that coal will make a comeback.
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/01/dnc-white-men-shouldnt-apply-for-tech-jobs.html
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DNC is dumb, more news at 11.
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Peace___Frog posted...

DNC is dumb, more news at 11.

To be fair, it sounds like just one dumb person:

The email in question was not authorized by the DNC nor was it authorized by senior leadership," spokesman Michael Tyler told Fox News. "All hiring decisions at the DNC are made consistent with the DNCs commitment to equal employment opportunity and hiring an inclusive and talented staff that reflects the coalition of the Democratic Party, because our diversity is our greatest strength.

Furthermore, the headline is slightly misleading, because this person was not suggesting white men should not apply for any tech jobs (which is what I thought at first), but just that this one specific job they were offering should not be given to a white male. Whoever wrote the article made the headline deliberately misleading.
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It's Fox.
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Suprak the Stud posted...

Peace___Frog posted...

DNC is dumb, more news at 11.

To be fair, it sounds like just one dumb person:

The email in question was not authorized by the DNC nor was it authorized by senior leadership," spokesman Michael Tyler told Fox News. "All hiring decisions at the DNC are made consistent with the DNCs commitment to equal employment opportunity and hiring an inclusive and talented staff that reflects the coalition of the Democratic Party, because our diversity is our greatest strength.

Furthermore, the headline is slightly misleading, because this person was not suggesting white men should not apply for any tech jobs (which is what I thought at first), but just that this one specific job they were offering should not be given to a white male. Whoever wrote the article made the headline deliberately misleading.

Plus the article says "white men make up a majority of our staff already" with regards to them looking for a more diverse applicant pool. It's not like some start-up is going "need ALL STAFF MEMBERS, white men need not apply".
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DNC: "We got tons of white guys, we want some diversity, something new"

Fox: "DNC doesn't want any white people!!!!"
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Peace___Frog posted...

Coal isn't coming back, just like bronze and copper toolmaking won't be making a comeback, just like producing tube televisions won't be making a comeback, just like wooden shipbuilding won't be making a comeback. We need retraining for these workers; 45's proposed budget cuts funding for retaining programs, and those who are the target market for those programs believe him when he says that coal will make a comeback.

What's really bad is that a lot of those workers are turning down that training. They want their coal jobs, and it doesn't matter what kills coal at this point.
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Dancedreamer posted...

Peace___Frog posted...

Coal isn't coming back, just like bronze and copper toolmaking won't be making a comeback, just like producing tube televisions won't be making a comeback, just like wooden shipbuilding won't be making a comeback. We need retraining for these workers; 45's proposed budget cuts funding for retaining programs, and those who are the target market for those programs believe him when he says that coal will make a comeback.

What's really bad is that a lot of those workers are turning down that training. They want their coal jobs, and it doesn't matter what kills coal at this point.

A tech company came to where I live to train people (mostly out of work coal miners) to code. The initial plan was for several rounds and atleast 500 people

It got run out of town after one round because the people and local government said "Trump said coal is coming back and this is getting in the way of coal."
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http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/01/investing/coal-bankruptcy-kentucky-trump-armstrong/index.html

Wooo coal comin' back, baby!
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Peace___Frog posted...

LordoftheMorons posted...

While I'm never surprised by Trump being terrible, I still am ocassionally surprised by his stupidity:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/925739132579729420

Like what the fuck is he under the impression the individual mandate does?

little does he know, it actually lowers costs. Without it, premiums would be astronomically higher

Even besides that, even if it hypothetically made premiums higher, his Tweet makes literally zero sense.
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I think Im gonna run for President on the platform of bringing back floppy disks
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StealThisSheen posted...

A tech company came to where I live to train people (mostly out of work coal miners) to code. The initial plan was for several rounds and atleast 500 people

It got run out of town after one round because the people and local government said "Trump said coal is coming back and this is getting in the way of coal."

That's so goddamn depressing.
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I know coding isnt glamorous, but even if coal was coming back, wouldnt you rather NOT get black lung if given the chance?
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https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/924968862264844288

No way this is real, right?
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Peace___Frog posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

A tech company came to where I live to train people (mostly out of work coal miners) to code. The initial plan was for several rounds and atleast 500 people

It got run out of town after one round because the people and local government said "Trump said coal is coming back and this is getting in the way of coal."

That's so goddamn depressing.

I almost posted this exact same response lol
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Jakyl25 posted...

I know coding isnt glamorous, but even if coal was coming back, wouldnt you rather NOT get black lung if given the chance?

You'd think. But a mix of "Trump said coal is coming back!" and the money for it coming from an Obama program was enough to turn idiots against it.

Initial plan was like, 10 rounds, employ 500 people.

It got one round, employed 17 people.

I know because I was one of those 17.

And I got to literally stand there and go "...Do I not exist?" as the Mayor himself was recorded for the Daily Signal going "Nobody got any jobs. The money should've went to us instead to help coal."
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Shit like this actively makes me hate coal.
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Jakyl25 posted...

http://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/trump-hill-leaders-disagree-upcoming-tax-reform-bill/story?id=50863220

Apparently Congress let Trump come up with the name for the tax bill and are immediately regretting it

LOLOLO THE CUT CUT CUT ACT

We already talked about this.
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I could find nothing of substance on the entire first page of the topic so I skipped to the end. My bad
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LapisLazuli posted...

HaRRicH posted...

LapisLazuli posted...

Also Tim literally made up a fake story about me being a pedophile out of spite, so he can fuck off with his virtue signlaing. I had no respect for him before then and now never will.

Missed this, damn.

Thankfully Ulti decided to try and get in on it too (ironically in the same topic where he made a 3 paragraph post about how users making stuff up to win arguments should be banable), so nobody bought it.

Nobody bought it because I purposely made it as unbelievable as possible to parody your ridiculous lies about me curbstomping black people. Glad to see you're literally not intelligent enough to grasp that and it still bothers you.

Anyway, up to 24 hours on my feet out here on the West Side Highway with no end in sight. Glad you heroes have so much free time to talk about what a piece of shit I am. Back to it!
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Whatever helps you feel better about it~
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Also way too forget that you were pretending to have me on ignore. Really though Ulti would slip first.
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