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s0nicfan 10/30/17 7:32:21 PM #52:	Darkman124 posted... and my point is that a significant portion of the voting base is not listening and will never listen, and engaging with them is quite honestly a waste of resources. the answer is to invest more in turning out those who will listen. Then that's just where we disagree. I don't believe you can grow as a party in a 2 party system by shutting yourself off from a large portion of the voting population. Romney fell into that trap. Hillary fell into that trap. There are enough examples of it that it should be pretty obvious that it doesn't work. You can believe that some portion will never change their mind, but in a country where many elections are relatively close, it's not sustainable to consider them "forever lost". Trump is a perfect example of that given that he pulled enough left/independents that a few years ago would be in that "never going to get them" category. More voter turnout CAN help, but it generally presumes effort to boost turnout only work on YOUR voters. The midwest has a few examples in this last election where boosting turnout ended up helping republicans instead of dems because the wrong voters showed up in larger numbers. It also makes the dangerous assumption that close splits on key issues aren't evidence that in reality the country is undecided, but that "my side" is the dominant one and it's just that "my voters" aren't speaking up when theirs are. It presumes a moral majority/mandate that may not exist and the numbers don't back up. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:889456246] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>and my point is that a significant portion of the voting base is not listening and will never listen, and engaging with them is quite honestly a waste of resources. the answer is to invest more in turning out those who will listen.</quote> Then that's just where we disagree. I don't believe you can grow as a party in a 2 party system by shutting yourself off from a large portion of the voting population. Romney fell into that trap. Hillary fell into that trap. There are enough examples of it that it should be pretty obvious that it doesn't work. You can believe that some portion will never change their mind, but in a country where many elections are relatively close, it's not sustainable to consider them "forever lost". Trump is a perfect example of that given that he pulled enough left/independents that a few years ago would be in that "never going to get them" category. More voter turnout CAN help, but it generally presumes effort to boost turnout only work on YOUR voters. The midwest has a few examples in this last election where boosting turnout ended up helping republicans instead of dems because the wrong voters showed up in larger numbers. It also makes the dangerous assumption that close splits on key issues aren't evidence that in reality the country is undecided, but that "my side" is the dominant one and it's just that "my voters" aren't speaking up when theirs are. It presumes a moral majority/mandate that may not exist and the numbers don't back up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 10/30/17 7:38:08 PM #53:	s0nicfan posted... Then that's just where we disagree. I don't believe you can grow as a party in a 2 party system by shutting yourself off from a large portion of the voting population. A large portion of the population are shut off from each party. GOP has already figured that out. They are not trying to appeal to anyone in the democratic party tent. Clinton actually tried quite hard to court GOP voters--she showed up in Texas and other states and pursued white women harder than any democratic party candidate in recent history. She tried to push the woman angle to win white women, typically a slim GOP majority, despite women as a whole typically going blue by a lot. And she didn't invest nearly enough in turning out young white women, who do vote dem. Honestly--she's decent at doing her job, but really sucks at campaigning. She is most popular when she is filling a major role and not in the public eye. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:889456571] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote> Then that's just where we disagree. I don't believe you can grow as a party in a 2 party system by shutting yourself off from a large portion of the voting population.</quote> A large portion of the population are shut off from each party. GOP has already figured that out. They are not trying to appeal to anyone in the democratic party tent. Clinton actually tried quite hard to court GOP voters--she showed up in Texas and other states and pursued white women harder than any democratic party candidate in recent history. She tried to push the woman angle to win white women, typically a slim GOP majority, despite women as a whole typically going blue by a lot. And she didn't invest nearly enough in turning out young white women, who do vote dem. Honestly--she's decent at doing her job, but really sucks at campaigning. She is most popular when she is filling a major role and not in the public eye.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/30/17 7:39:53 PM #54:	TheRealDill2000 posted... Genocet_10-325 posted... TheRealDill2000 posted... DarkProto05 posted... Conservatives who rides Trump's jock are the funniest. Not all Trump supporters are conservative. He has been able to bridge the gap and get support from both sides. HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA What's so funny about this? I tend to lean far left, but I hopped on the Trump train. How do Trump's politics make that possible? Did you vote for him because he has funny hair, annoys people, and you like The Apprentice? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:889456675] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRealDill2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRealDill2000 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>DarkProto05 posted...</cite> <quote> Conservatives who rides Trump's jock are the funniest. </quote> Not all Trump supporters are conservative. He has been able to bridge the gap and get support from both sides.</quote> HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA</quote> What's so funny about this? I tend to lean far left, but I hopped on the Trump train.</quote> How do Trump's politics make that possible? Did you vote for him because he has funny hair, annoys people, and you like The Apprentice?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 10/30/17 7:40:08 PM #55:	Fake news, the only people who waste time responding to polls are old people and lib cucks who live in their parents basements. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>Howl posted [p:889456691] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote>Fake news, the only people who waste time responding to polls are old people and lib cucks who live in their parents basements.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phantom_Nook 10/30/17 7:40:54 PM #56:	Howl posted... Fake news Of course it is. It's not in favor of your Orange God Emperor, after all. --- When a girl has sex with a bunch of guys, they call her a slut, but when a guy does it, they call him gay. ~ Antifar <cite>Phantom_Nook posted [p:889456728] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote>Fake news</quote> Of course it is. It's not in favor of your Orange God Emperor, after all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Genocet_10-325 10/30/17 7:40:59 PM #57:	Howl posted... Fake news, the only people who waste time responding to polls are old people and lib cucks who live in their parents basements. Shut the fuck up. --- Formerly known as The_Great_Geno <cite>Genocet_10-325 posted [p:889456732] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote>Fake news, the only people who waste time responding to polls are old people and lib cucks who live in their parents basements.</quote> Shut the fuck up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 10/30/17 7:41:19 PM #58:	Mike Pence would be a worse president. <_< <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:889456748] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote>Mike Pence would be a worse president. <_<</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 10/30/17 7:41:35 PM #59:	Darkman124 posted... Clinton actually tried quite hard to court GOP voters The moment she called any portion of the voting base deplorables and irredeemable she screwed over all that goodwill, though. Again: being a dick isn't a winning strategy. Say what you will about Trump, but one thing he NEVER did was insult the voters. He insulted specific people, he insulted the democratic party, he insulted ideas, but he didn't badmouth the voters of either party. You may not believe me, but good luck finding a quote from the election. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:889456760] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>Clinton actually tried quite hard to court GOP voters</quote> The moment she called any portion of the voting base deplorables and irredeemable she screwed over all that goodwill, though. Again: being a dick isn't a winning strategy. Say what you will about Trump, but one thing he NEVER did was insult the voters. He insulted specific people, he insulted the democratic party, he insulted ideas, but he didn't badmouth the voters of either party. You may not believe me, but good luck finding a quote from the election.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 10/30/17 7:42:27 PM #60:	s0nicfan posted... Say what you will about Trump, but one thing he NEVER did was insult the voters. when you say never, what time period are you referring to just the campaign? there is always this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j1IDYeqUF8 --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:889456815] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote> Say what you will about Trump, but one thing he NEVER did was insult the voters. </quote> when you say never, what time period are you referring to just the campaign? there is always this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j1IDYeqUF8</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
m_mungmung 10/30/17 7:42:39 PM #61:	Axiom posted... s0nicfan posted... I agree, a smug sense of superiority against the people who voted for him is the best way to take back congress in the midterms. Because a gamefaqs message board is truly influential What purpose is there to speak if not in hopes of spreading wisdom? Big or small, any conversation leads to influence. --- Sigless users are people too! <cite>m_mungmung posted [p:889456831] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>I agree, a smug sense of superiority against the people who voted for him is the best way to take back congress in the midterms.</quote> Because a gamefaqs message board is truly influential</quote> What purpose is there to speak if not in hopes of spreading wisdom? Big or small, any conversation leads to influence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Genocet_10-325 10/30/17 7:42:51 PM #62:	s0nicfan posted... Darkman124 posted... Clinton actually tried quite hard to court GOP voters The moment she called any portion of the voting base deplorables and irredeemable she screwed over all that goodwill, though. Again: being a dick isn't a winning strategy. Say what you will about Trump, but one thing he NEVER did was insult the voters. He insulted specific people, he insulted the democratic party, he insulted ideas, but he didn't badmouth the voters of either party. You may not believe me, but good luck finding a quote from the election. He may not have but the GOP base insults democratic voters all the fucking time. --- Formerly known as The_Great_Geno <cite>Genocet_10-325 posted [p:889456842] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>Clinton actually tried quite hard to court GOP voters</quote> The moment she called any portion of the voting base deplorables and irredeemable she screwed over all that goodwill, though. Again: being a dick isn't a winning strategy. Say what you will about Trump, but one thing he NEVER did was insult the voters. He insulted specific people, he insulted the democratic party, he insulted ideas, but he didn't badmouth the voters of either party. You may not believe me, but good luck finding a quote from the election.</quote> He may not have but the GOP base insults democratic voters all the fucking time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 10/30/17 7:43:28 PM #63:	Phantom_Nook posted... Howl posted... Fake news Of course it is. It's not in favor of your Orange God Emperor, after all. No, the polls have never been in Trump's favor, but just as my statement predicts and was proven by the election, reality isn't represented by poll data. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>Howl posted [p:889456884] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Phantom_Nook posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> Fake news</quote> Of course it is. It's not in favor of your Orange God Emperor, after all.</quote> No, the polls have never been in Trump's favor, but just as my statement predicts and was proven by the election, reality isn't represented by poll data.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 10/30/17 7:43:48 PM #64:	Darkman124 posted... s0nicfan posted... Say what you will about Trump, but one thing he NEVER did was insult the voters. when you say never, what time period are you referring to just the campaign? Yes, just the campaign. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:889456902] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote> Say what you will about Trump, but one thing he NEVER did was insult the voters. </quote> when you say never, what time period are you referring to just the campaign?</quote> Yes, just the campaign.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phantom_Nook 10/30/17 7:44:10 PM #65:	Howl posted... the polls have never been in Trump's favor Because he's fucking garbage, and you don't understand how polls work. Next. --- When a girl has sex with a bunch of guys, they call her a slut, but when a guy does it, they call him gay. ~ Antifar <cite>Phantom_Nook posted [p:889456923] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> the polls have never been in Trump's favor</quote> Because he's fucking garbage, and you don't understand how polls work. Next.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 10/30/17 7:45:26 PM #66:	Phantom_Nook posted... Howl posted... the polls have never been in Trump's favor Because he's fucking garbage, and you don't understand how polls work. Next. No, because polls don't actually represent the majority opinion at all, because most people don't care to waste their own time answering them. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>Howl posted [p:889456991] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Phantom_Nook posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> the polls have never been in Trump's favor</quote> Because he's fucking garbage, and you don't understand how polls work. Next.</quote> No, because polls don't actually represent the majority opinion at all, because most people don't care to waste their own time answering them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRealDill2000 10/30/17 7:46:26 PM #67:	hockeybub89 posted... TheRealDill2000 posted... Genocet_10-325 posted... TheRealDill2000 posted... DarkProto05 posted... Conservatives who rides Trump's jock are the funniest. Not all Trump supporters are conservative. He has been able to bridge the gap and get support from both sides. HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA What's so funny about this? I tend to lean far left, but I hopped on the Trump train. How do Trump's politics make that possible? Did you vote for him because he has funny hair, annoys people, and you like The Apprentice? On the campaign trail, he expressed a number of liberal ideas, showed support for minorities, and backed the LBGT community. This only touches on a few of the reasons to get behind him. --- CE's source of sage-ly advice #BLM <cite>TheRealDill2000 posted [p:889457045] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRealDill2000 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>TheRealDill2000 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>DarkProto05 posted...</cite> <quote> Conservatives who rides Trump's jock are the funniest. </quote> Not all Trump supporters are conservative. He has been able to bridge the gap and get support from both sides. </quote> HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA </quote> What's so funny about this? I tend to lean far left, but I hopped on the Trump train.</quote> How do Trump's politics make that possible? Did you vote for him because he has funny hair, annoys people, and you like The Apprentice?</quote> On the campaign trail, he expressed a number of liberal ideas, showed support for minorities, and backed the LBGT community. This only touches on a few of the reasons to get behind him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 10/30/17 7:46:30 PM #68:	s0nicfan posted... Yes, just the campaign. main thing that comes to mind is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j1IDYeqUF8 --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:889457049] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote> Yes, just the campaign. </quote> main thing that comes to mind is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j1IDYeqUF8</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Genocet_10-325 10/30/17 7:46:41 PM #69:	Howl posted... Phantom_Nook posted... Howl posted... Fake news Of course it is. It's not in favor of your Orange God Emperor, after all. No, the polls have never been in Trump's favor, but just as my statement predicts and was proven by the election, reality isn't represented by poll data. Hillary polled 2% ahead of Trump in the days before the election. She won the popular vote by 2%. Tell me again how that was inaccurate --- Formerly known as The_Great_Geno <cite>Genocet_10-325 posted [p:889457057] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Phantom_Nook posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> Fake news</quote> Of course it is. It's not in favor of your Orange God Emperor, after all.</quote> No, the polls have never been in Trump's favor, but just as my statement predicts and was proven by the election, reality isn't represented by poll data.</quote> Hillary polled 2% ahead of Trump in the days before the election. She won the popular vote by 2%. Tell me again how that was inaccurate</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 10/30/17 7:49:30 PM #70:	Darkman124 posted... s0nicfan posted... Yes, just the campaign. main thing that comes to mind is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j1IDYeqUF8 At no point in that comment did he insult voters. He may have implied things about them, but he didn't insult them directly. It was more a comment about his own popularity. Again: I'm comparing this to Hillary's "basket of deplorables" or Romney's "47 percent" rant. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:889457220] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote> Yes, just the campaign. </quote> main thing that comes to mind is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j1IDYeqUF8</quote> At no point in that comment did he insult voters. He may have implied things about them, but he didn't insult them directly. It was more a comment about his own popularity. Again: I'm comparing this to Hillary's "basket of deplorables" or Romney's "47 percent" rant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 10/30/17 7:49:32 PM #71:	Genocet_10-325 posted... Howl posted... Phantom_Nook posted... Howl posted... Fake news Of course it is. It's not in favor of your Orange God Emperor, after all. No, the polls have never been in Trump's favor, but just as my statement predicts and was proven by the election, reality isn't represented by poll data. Hillary polled 2% ahead of Trump in the days before the election. She won the popular vote by 2%. Tell me again how that was inaccurate Dude using polling data, researchers came to this obviously incorrect assumption that was published in the New York times last year. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/20/upshot/hillary-clinton-has-a-76-percent-chance-to-win-the-presidency.html Edit: fixed the link. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>Howl posted [p:889457223] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Phantom_Nook posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> Fake news </quote> Of course it is. It's not in favor of your Orange God Emperor, after all. </quote> No, the polls have never been in Trump's favor, but just as my statement predicts and was proven by the election, reality isn't represented by poll data. </quote> Hillary polled 2% ahead of Trump in the days before the election. She won the popular vote by 2%. Tell me again how that was inaccurate</quote> Dude using polling data, researchers came to this obviously incorrect assumption that was published in the New York times last year. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/20/upshot/hillary-clinton-has-a-76-percent-chance-to-win-the-presidency.html Edit: fixed the link.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Genocet_10-325 10/30/17 7:51:17 PM #72:	Howl posted... Genocet_10-325 posted... Howl posted... Phantom_Nook posted... Howl posted... Fake news Of course it is. It's not in favor of your Orange God Emperor, after all. No, the polls have never been in Trump's favor, but just as my statement predicts and was proven by the election, reality isn't represented by poll data. Hillary polled 2% ahead of Trump in the days before the election. She won the popular vote by 2%. Tell me again how that was inaccurate Dude using polling data, researchers came to this obviously incorrect assumption that was published in the New York times last year. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/20/upshot/hillary-clinton-has-a-76-percent-chance-to-win-the-presidency.html Edit: fixed the link. ...you...do realize that 76% chance of winning isn't 100% right? --- Formerly known as The_Great_Geno <cite>Genocet_10-325 posted [p:889457330] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Phantom_Nook posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> Fake news </quote> Of course it is. It's not in favor of your Orange God Emperor, after all. </quote> No, the polls have never been in Trump's favor, but just as my statement predicts and was proven by the election, reality isn't represented by poll data. </quote> Hillary polled 2% ahead of Trump in the days before the election. She won the popular vote by 2%. Tell me again how that was inaccurate</quote> Dude using polling data, researchers came to this obviously incorrect assumption that was published in the New York times last year. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/20/upshot/hillary-clinton-has-a-76-percent-chance-to-win-the-presidency.html Edit: fixed the link.</quote> ...you...do realize that 76% chance of winning isn't 100% right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 10/30/17 7:52:05 PM #73:	And after what just happened it will drop more. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:889457383] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote>And after what just happened it will drop more.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 10/30/17 7:52:11 PM #74:	Darkman124 posted... s0nicfan posted... Yes, just the campaign. main thing that comes to mind is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j1IDYeqUF8 It applies perfectly to his current supporters as well <cite>Axiom posted [p:889457388] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote> Yes, just the campaign. </quote> main thing that comes to mind is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j1IDYeqUF8</quote> It applies perfectly to his current supporters as well</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 10/30/17 7:52:39 PM #75:	s0nicfan posted... At no point in that comment did he insult voters. He may have implied things about them, but he didn't insult them directly. It was more a comment about his own popularity. Again: I'm comparing this to Hillary's "basket of deplorables" or Romney's "47 percent" rant. ah, so then you'd want this https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2015/11/13/how-stupid-are-people-iowa-trump-asks-while-blasting-carson/o3RJKigUQyqzjU9U8skVuO/story.html How stupid are the people of Iowa? declared Trump during a rally at Iowa Central Community College. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:889457420] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>At no point in that comment did he insult voters. He may have implied things about them, but he didn't insult them directly. It was more a comment about his own popularity. Again: I'm comparing this to Hillary's "basket of deplorables" or Romney's "47 percent" rant. </quote> ah, so then you'd want this https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2015/11/13/how-stupid-are-people-iowa-trump-asks-while-blasting-carson/o3RJKigUQyqzjU9U8skVuO/story.html <quote>How stupid are the people of Iowa? declared Trump during a rally at Iowa Central Community College. </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 10/30/17 7:53:01 PM #76:	Howl posted... Dude using polling data, researchers came to this obviously incorrect assumption that was published in the New York times last year. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/20/upshot/hillary-clinton-has-a-76-percent-chance-to-win-the-presidency.html Edit: fixed the link. Stop trying to make arguments that are above your head. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:889457441] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote>Dude using polling data, researchers came to this obviously incorrect assumption that was published in the New York times last year. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/20/upshot/hillary-clinton-has-a-76-percent-chance-to-win-the-presidency.html Edit: fixed the link.</quote> Stop trying to make arguments that are above your head.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 10/30/17 7:53:22 PM #77:	Genocet_10-325 posted... Howl posted... Genocet_10-325 posted... Howl posted... Phantom_Nook posted... Howl posted... Fake news Of course it is. It's not in favor of your Orange God Emperor, after all. No, the polls have never been in Trump's favor, but just as my statement predicts and was proven by the election, reality isn't represented by poll data. Hillary polled 2% ahead of Trump in the days before the election. She won the popular vote by 2%. Tell me again how that was inaccurate Dude using polling data, researchers came to this obviously incorrect assumption that was published in the New York times last year. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/20/upshot/hillary-clinton-has-a-76-percent-chance-to-win-the-presidency.html Edit: fixed the link. ...you...do realize that 76% chance of winning isn't 100% right? There are the 98% polls from Huffpro they love to throw around but that's Huffpro. Lol. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:889457455] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Phantom_Nook posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> Fake news </quote> Of course it is. It's not in favor of your Orange God Emperor, after all. </quote> No, the polls have never been in Trump's favor, but just as my statement predicts and was proven by the election, reality isn't represented by poll data. </quote> Hillary polled 2% ahead of Trump in the days before the election. She won the popular vote by 2%. Tell me again how that was inaccurate</quote> Dude using polling data, researchers came to this obviously incorrect assumption that was published in the New York times last year. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/20/upshot/hillary-clinton-has-a-76-percent-chance-to-win-the-presidency.html Edit: fixed the link.</quote> ...you...do realize that 76% chance of winning isn't 100% right?</quote> There are the 98% polls from Huffpro they love to throw around but that's Huffpro. Lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/30/17 7:54:18 PM #78:	Howl posted... Phantom_Nook posted... Howl posted... the polls have never been in Trump's favor Because he's fucking garbage, and you don't understand how polls work. Next. No, because polls don't actually represent the majority opinion at all, because most people don't care to waste their own time answering them. Trump didn't win on majority opinion. Neither would have Hillary if we based it on the popular vote. And all the election polls said was that Trump had a low chance of winning, not that he couldn't --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:889457512] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Phantom_Nook posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> the polls have never been in Trump's favor</quote> Because he's fucking garbage, and you don't understand how polls work. Next.</quote> No, because polls don't actually represent the majority opinion at all, because most people don't care to waste their own time answering them.</quote> Trump didn't win on majority opinion. Neither would have Hillary if we based it on the popular vote. And all the election polls said was that Trump had a low chance of winning, not that he couldn't</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 10/30/17 7:55:23 PM #79:	Darkman124 posted... s0nicfan posted... At no point in that comment did he insult voters. He may have implied things about them, but he didn't insult them directly. It was more a comment about his own popularity. Again: I'm comparing this to Hillary's "basket of deplorables" or Romney's "47 percent" rant. ah, so then you'd want this https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2015/11/13/how-stupid-are-people-iowa-trump-asks-while-blasting-carson/o3RJKigUQyqzjU9U8skVuO/story.html How stupid are the people of Iowa? declared Trump during a rally at Iowa Central Community College. Ah yes, then he too fell victim to saying something incredibly stupid. Luckily it was during the primary when there were a million candidates and individual comments were more easily lost in the noise. I don't defend that statement, although I'll admit I was wrong about him not insulting the voters at all during the campaign. My guess is he wasn't so loose with his words after he won the primary, although I could be wrong there, too. EDIT: But still, I stand by my core point: being a dick (to the voters) isn't a winning strategy. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:889457583] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>At no point in that comment did he insult voters. He may have implied things about them, but he didn't insult them directly. It was more a comment about his own popularity. Again: I'm comparing this to Hillary's "basket of deplorables" or Romney's "47 percent" rant. </quote> ah, so then you'd want this https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2015/11/13/how-stupid-are-people-iowa-trump-asks-while-blasting-carson/o3RJKigUQyqzjU9U8skVuO/story.html <quote>How stupid are the people of Iowa? declared Trump during a rally at Iowa Central Community College. </quote></quote> Ah yes, then he too fell victim to saying something incredibly stupid. Luckily it was during the primary when there were a million candidates and individual comments were more easily lost in the noise. I don't defend that statement, although I'll admit I was wrong about him not insulting the voters at all during the campaign. My guess is he wasn't so loose with his words after he won the primary, although I could be wrong there, too. EDIT: But still, I stand by my core point: being a dick (to the voters) isn't a winning strategy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Genocet_10-325 10/30/17 7:55:31 PM #80:	creativerealms posted... Genocet_10-325 posted... Howl posted... Genocet_10-325 posted... Howl posted... Phantom_Nook posted... Howl posted... Fake news Of course it is. It's not in favor of your Orange God Emperor, after all. No, the polls have never been in Trump's favor, but just as my statement predicts and was proven by the election, reality isn't represented by poll data. Hillary polled 2% ahead of Trump in the days before the election. She won the popular vote by 2%. Tell me again how that was inaccurate Dude using polling data, researchers came to this obviously incorrect assumption that was published in the New York times last year. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/20/upshot/hillary-clinton-has-a-76-percent-chance-to-win-the-presidency.html Edit: fixed the link. ...you...do realize that 76% chance of winning isn't 100% right? There are the 98% polls from Huffpro they love to throw around but that's Huffpro. Lol. Even then 98% still isn't 100%. You'd think that's a simple concept to grasp but...nope. --- Formerly known as The_Great_Geno <cite>Genocet_10-325 posted [p:889457591] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Phantom_Nook posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> Fake news </quote> Of course it is. It's not in favor of your Orange God Emperor, after all. </quote> No, the polls have never been in Trump's favor, but just as my statement predicts and was proven by the election, reality isn't represented by poll data. </quote> Hillary polled 2% ahead of Trump in the days before the election. She won the popular vote by 2%. Tell me again how that was inaccurate</quote> Dude using polling data, researchers came to this obviously incorrect assumption that was published in the New York times last year. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/20/upshot/hillary-clinton-has-a-76-percent-chance-to-win-the-presidency.html Edit: fixed the link.</quote> ...you...do realize that 76% chance of winning isn't 100% right?</quote> There are the 98% polls from Huffpro they love to throw around but that's Huffpro. Lol.</quote> Even then 98% still isn't 100%. You'd think that's a simple concept to grasp but...nope.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 10/30/17 7:59:05 PM #81:	s0nicfan posted... But still, I stand by my core point: being a dick (to the voters) isn't a winning strategy. that core point is valid and i am happy to agree there. courting a certain subset of opposition voters, though, is ultimately a waste of time. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:889457814] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>But still, I stand by my core point: being a dick (to the voters) isn't a winning strategy. </quote> that core point is valid and i am happy to agree there. courting a certain subset of opposition voters, though, is ultimately a waste of time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Deadpool 10/30/17 8:24:32 PM #82:	s0nicfan posted... Darkman124 posted... s0nicfan posted... 50% of the population 33% approval rate Depends on who you're insulting: the people who support him like the TC said, or the people who VOTED for him like justaguy3492 said. Less than 33% of the population of the United States votes for Trump. --- We are living in a world today where lemonade is made from artificial flavors and furniture polish is made from real lemons. <cite>The Deadpool posted [p:889459384] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>50% of the population </quote> <quote>33% approval rate</quote></quote> Depends on who you're insulting: the people who support him like the TC said, or the people who VOTED for him like justaguy3492 said.</quote> Less than 33% of the population of the United States votes for Trump.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 10/30/17 8:35:16 PM #83:	The Deadpool posted... s0nicfan posted... Darkman124 posted... s0nicfan posted... 50% of the population 33% approval rate Depends on who you're insulting: the people who support him like the TC said, or the people who VOTED for him like justaguy3492 said. Less than 33% of the population of the United States votes for Trump. Less than 33% of Americans voted for Hillary as well. Only 58.6% of the total number of eligible voters voted at all, and that number doesn't include felons or everyone under the age of 18. Most people simple don't vote at all. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>Howl posted [p:889460111] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Deadpool posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote> 50% of the population </quote> <quote> 33% approval rate </quote> </quote> Depends on who you're insulting: the people who support him like the TC said, or the people who VOTED for him like justaguy3492 said.</quote> Less than 33% of the population of the United States votes for Trump.</quote> Less than 33% of Americans voted for Hillary as well. Only 58.6% of the total number of eligible voters voted at all, and that number doesn't include felons or everyone under the age of 18. Most people simple don't vote at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Deadpool 10/30/17 8:46:56 PM #84:	Howl posted... The Deadpool posted... s0nicfan posted... Darkman124 posted... s0nicfan posted... 50% of the population 33% approval rate Depends on who you're insulting: the people who support him like the TC said, or the people who VOTED for him like justaguy3492 said. Less than 33% of the population of the United States votes for Trump. Less than 33% of Americans voted for Hillary as well. Only 58.6% of the total number of eligible voters voted at all, and that number doesn't include felons or everyone under the age of 18. Most people simple don't vote at all. Relevance? --- We are living in a world today where lemonade is made from artificial flavors and furniture polish is made from real lemons. <cite>The Deadpool posted [p:889460958] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Deadpool posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote> 50% of the population </quote> <quote> 33% approval rate </quote> </quote> Depends on who you're insulting: the people who support him like the TC said, or the people who VOTED for him like justaguy3492 said.</quote> Less than 33% of the population of the United States votes for Trump.</quote> Less than 33% of Americans voted for Hillary as well. Only 58.6% of the total number of eligible voters voted at all, and that number doesn't include felons or everyone under the age of 18. Most people simple don't vote at all.</quote> Relevance?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 10/30/17 9:09:28 PM #85:	The Deadpool posted... Howl posted... The Deadpool posted... s0nicfan posted... Darkman124 posted... s0nicfan posted... 50% of the population 33% approval rate Depends on who you're insulting: the people who support him like the TC said, or the people who VOTED for him like justaguy3492 said. Less than 33% of the population of the United States votes for Trump. Less than 33% of Americans voted for Hillary as well. Only 58.6% of the total number of eligible voters voted at all, and that number doesn't include felons or everyone under the age of 18. Most people simple don't vote at all. Relevance? That your attempt to demonstrate Trump's lack of percentage from the total of the population, was irrelevant because both candidates had less than a third of the population vote for them. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>Howl posted [p:889462520] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Deadpool posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>The Deadpool posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote> 50% of the population </quote> <quote> 33% approval rate </quote> </quote> Depends on who you're insulting: the people who support him like the TC said, or the people who VOTED for him like justaguy3492 said. </quote> Less than 33% of the population of the United States votes for Trump. </quote> Less than 33% of Americans voted for Hillary as well. Only 58.6% of the total number of eligible voters voted at all, and that number doesn't include felons or everyone under the age of 18. Most people simple don't vote at all.</quote> Relevance?</quote> That your attempt to demonstrate Trump's lack of percentage from the total of the population, was irrelevant because both candidates had less than a third of the population vote for them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Genocet_10-325 10/30/17 9:12:37 PM #86:	Great, but be that as it may, Trump won by the skin of his teeth and his popularity has since dropped --- Formerly known as The_Great_Geno <cite>Genocet_10-325 posted [p:889462730] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote>Great, but be that as it may, Trump won by the skin of his teeth and his popularity has since dropped</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Deadpool 10/30/17 9:15:38 PM #87:	Howl posted... That your attempt to demonstrate Trump's lack of percentage from the total of the population. You may have to read back to understand the context of the conversation. Its easy because weve both quoted it at every single step before this one... Come back to me when you understand what we were talking about. --- We are living in a world today where lemonade is made from artificial flavors and furniture polish is made from real lemons. <cite>The Deadpool posted [p:889462931] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> That your attempt to demonstrate Trump's lack of percentage from the total of the population.</quote> You may have to read back to understand the context of the conversation. Its easy because weve both quoted it at every single step before this one... Come back to me when you understand what we were talking about.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 10/30/17 10:51:09 PM #88:	TheRealDill2000 posted... Too many people are being brainwashed by the liberal media. Trump has taken tremendous strides in repairing our nation after the disastrous Obama years. It's only a matter of time until people realize what is really happening and change their views. --- http://i.imgur.com/wKOoZkP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/mipFVFw.png http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:889468667] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRealDill2000 posted...</cite> <quote>Too many people are being brainwashed by the liberal media. Trump has taken tremendous strides in repairing our nation after the disastrous Obama years. It's only a matter of time until people realize what is really happening and change their views.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tor984 10/30/17 10:52:31 PM #89:	Ok <cite>tor984 posted [p:889468745] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote>Ok</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 10/31/17 2:45:48 PM #90:	The Deadpool posted... Howl posted... That your attempt to demonstrate Trump's lack of percentage from the total of the population. You may have to read back to understand the context of the conversation. Its easy because weve both quoted it at every single step before this one... Come back to me when you understand what we were talking about. Jeez you're obnoxious --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:889503862] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Deadpool posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> That your attempt to demonstrate Trump's lack of percentage from the total of the population.</quote> You may have to read back to understand the context of the conversation. Its easy because weve both quoted it at every single step before this one... Come back to me when you understand what we were talking about.</quote> Jeez you're obnoxious</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Deadpool 10/31/17 5:08:49 PM #91:	UnfairRepresent posted... The Deadpool posted... Howl posted... That your attempt to demonstrate Trump's lack of percentage from the total of the population. You may have to read back to understand the context of the conversation. Its easy because weve both quoted it at every single step before this one... Come back to me when you understand what we were talking about. Jeez you're obnoxious Youre right. Im sorry. I should know better then demand reading comprehension in a text based conversation... --- We are living in a world today where lemonade is made from artificial flavors and furniture polish is made from real lemons. <cite>The Deadpool posted [p:889512353] in Trump appr... [t:75937512]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Deadpool posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> That your attempt to demonstrate Trump's lack of percentage from the total of the population.</quote> You may have to read back to understand the context of the conversation. Its easy because weve both quoted it at every single step before this one... Come back to me when you understand what we were talking about.</quote> Jeez you're obnoxious</quote> Youre right. Im sorry. I should know better then demand reading comprehension in a text based conversation...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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