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FrisbeeDude
10/25/17 1:53:36 PM
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http://tinyurl.com/yddq5tst

A majority of whites say discrimination against them exists in America today, according to a poll released Tuesday from NPR, the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health.

"If you apply for a job, they seem to give the blacks the first crack at it," said 68-year-old Tim Hershman of Akron, Ohio, "and, basically, you know, if you want any help from the government, if you're white, you don't get it. If you're black, you get it."

More than half of whites 55 percent surveyed say that, generally speaking, they believe there is discrimination against white people in America today. Hershman's view is similar to what was heard on the campaign trail at Trump rally after Trump rally. Donald Trump catered to white grievance during the 2016 presidential campaign and has done so as president as well.

Notable, however, is that while a majority of whites in the poll say discrimination against them exists, a much smaller percentage say that they have actually experienced it. Also important to note is that 84 percent of whites believe discrimination exists against racial and ethnic minorities in America today.


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Puglia77
10/25/17 1:58:15 PM
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What discrimination, going second instead of first?
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HBKick18
10/25/17 1:59:06 PM
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Oh the humanity
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Mal_Fet
10/25/17 1:59:27 PM
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As long as affirmative action exists, they're correct.
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Fishy
10/25/17 1:59:44 PM
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Amazingly when you fight discrimination by being discriminatory things don't work out as well as you plan.
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10/25/17 2:00:32 PM
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YourDrunkFather
10/25/17 2:00:44 PM
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Another day. Another topic shit posting about white people by Frisbeeclown
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TheVipaGTS
10/25/17 2:00:46 PM
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lol
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Anarchy_Juiblex
10/25/17 2:00:57 PM
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"We'll prove them wrong by dismissing their claims and insulting them!"
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darkjedilink
10/25/17 2:01:23 PM
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HBKick18 posted...
Oh the humanity

Because discrimination is only bad when the victim isn't white?
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A_Good_Boy
10/25/17 2:02:15 PM
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Is Addy gonna lecture us about the absurdity of white fragility now?
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TheVipaGTS
10/25/17 2:02:20 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
"If you apply for a job, they seem to give the blacks the first crack at it," said 68-year-old Tim Hershman of Akron, Ohio, "and, basically, you know, if you want any help from the government, if you're white, you don't get it. If you're black, you get it."

holy shit lmao....
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gatorsPENSbucs
10/25/17 2:02:56 PM
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Fuck yah they do. And its hilarious and a shame that nobody cares.

Talk shit about a famous black person online and youre the worst person ever. Talk shit about a famous white person and everyone laughs and agrees.
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A_Good_Boy
10/25/17 2:05:23 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
Notable, however, is that while a majority of whites in the poll say discrimination against them exists, a much smaller percentage say that they have actually experienced it.

What are the percentages for this?
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SGT_Conti
10/25/17 2:07:23 PM
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Even though Hershman believes he has been a victim of anti-white discrimination, he wasn't able to provide a specific example. He describes losing out on a promotion and a younger African-American being selected as one of the finalists for the job. But the position eventually went to a white applicant, who was also younger than Hershman.

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hockeybub89
10/25/17 2:08:29 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Fuck yah they do. And its hilarious and a shame that nobody cares.

Talk shit about a famous black person online and youre the worst person ever. Talk shit about a famous white person and everyone laughs and agrees.

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Kazi1212
10/25/17 2:09:05 PM
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Lets not give credence to white peoples feelings when they feel discriminated against but lets mindlessly believe anyone not white and their feelings about being discriminated against. Obviously the white people are lying about their feelings while everybody else arent
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hockeybub89
10/25/17 2:09:23 PM
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Kazi1212 posted...
Lets not give credence to white peoples feelings when they feel discriminated against but lets mindlessly believe anyone not white and their feelings about being discriminated against. Obviously the white people are lying about their feelings while everybody else arent

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Solar_Crimson
10/25/17 2:09:44 PM
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SGT_Conti posted...
Even though Hershman believes he has been a victim of anti-white discrimination, he wasn't able to provide a specific example. He describes losing out on a promotion and a younger African-American being selected as one of the finalists for the job. But the position eventually went to a white applicant, who was also younger than Hershman.

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MacadamianNut3
10/25/17 2:09:50 PM
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Lmao

AA is the real problem running rampant in universities and jobs guize, while nepotism is a non-factor
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SGT_Conti
10/25/17 2:10:13 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Notable, however, is that while a majority of whites in the poll say discrimination against them exists, a much smaller percentage say that they have actually experienced it.

What are the percentages for this?

It's in the link.

Of the white people who applied for jobs, 19% say they didn't get it because of discrimination.

Of those working, 13% say they weren't paid equally or lost out on promotions because of discrimination.

While applying to or at college, 11% say they faced discrimination.
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DKFjalfe
10/25/17 2:10:33 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
SGT_Conti posted...
Even though Hershman believes he has been a victim of anti-white discrimination, he wasn't able to provide a specific example. He describes losing out on a promotion and a younger African-American being selected as one of the finalists for the job. But the position eventually went to a white applicant, who was also younger than Hershman.

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philsov
10/25/17 2:10:44 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
Also important to note is that 84 percent of whites believe discrimination exists against racial and ethnic minorities in America today.


So whites collectively acknowledge that minorities get the major shaft, and despite very few of them actually experiencing discrimination themselves, are under the impression that whites are also occasionally discriminated against.

Isn't this a good thing?

The only ones to lambast are in the 16% who think minorities don't get discriminated against and the 55% that whites do.
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MacadamianNut3
10/25/17 2:11:24 PM
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SGT_Conti posted...
Even though Hershman believes he has been a victim of anti-white discrimination, he wasn't able to provide a specific example. He describes losing out on a promotion and a younger African-American being selected as one of the finalists for the job. But the position eventually went to a white applicant, who was also younger than Hershman.

lol

No surprise here

I swear some people are braindead
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averagejoel
10/25/17 2:11:46 PM
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glitteringfairy
10/25/17 2:12:12 PM
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Well the poll isn't wrong. This topic is a prime example
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averagejoel
10/25/17 2:14:15 PM
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glitteringfairy posted...
Well the poll isn't wrong. This topic is a prime example

yes, the poll is indeed correct in asserting that many white people believe they face discrimination. the people who believe that, though, are incorrect
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hockeybub89
10/25/17 2:14:52 PM
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glitteringfairy posted...
Well the poll isn't wrong. This topic is a prime example

But the vast majority have never experienced it and can't even describe it, so by the right-wing logic on this board, white people need to shut up and stop blaming the invisible "system" for their failures.

No?
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glitteringfairy
10/25/17 2:16:45 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Well the poll isn't wrong. This topic is a prime example

But the vast majority have never experienced it and can't even describe it, so by the right-wing logic on this board, white people need to shut up and stop blaming the invisible "system" for their failures.

No?

I'm not speaking for every white person but I experience it weekly in my line of work, it's definitely a real thing when your a white person that works loss prevention in a black neighborhood. The racism is off the charts
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FLUFFYGERM
10/25/17 2:16:45 PM
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I thought SJWs want us to listen, and not talk, to people who claim to be discriminated against. To just understand where they're coming from without minimizing their experience.
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SGT_Conti
10/25/17 2:17:12 PM
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averagejoel posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Well the poll isn't wrong. This topic is a prime example

yes, the poll is indeed correct in asserting that many white people believe they face discrimination. the people who believe that, though, are incorrect

To be fair, casual discrimination against white people does exist. It's just not nearly on the same scale minorities face, and definitely not for the same reasons.
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TheVipaGTS
10/25/17 2:17:27 PM
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Look, I fully agree that AA either needs to be adapted or removed, but not EVERY FUCKIN instance of a black person beating a white person is the result of AA...

I remember some chick who sued a school claiming she wasn't accepted in favor of black students...turns out she had worse grades than they did.
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DepreceV2
10/25/17 2:18:05 PM
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Lmao. If you have a name that sounds too "black" or "ghetto" on your application it is trashed before they even read it many times
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Kineth
10/25/17 2:19:17 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
I remember some chick who sued a school claiming she wasn't accepted in favor of black students...turns out she had worse grades than they did.


That was that dopey looking white girl who couldn't get into University of Texas. And yeah, her grades were shit and she completely ignored all the white candidates who weren't as qualified as her either.
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Zeeak4444
10/25/17 2:19:26 PM
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philsov posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Also important to note is that 84 percent of whites believe discrimination exists against racial and ethnic minorities in America today.


So whites collectively acknowledge that minorities get the major shaft, and despite very few of them actually experiencing discrimination themselves, are under the impression that whites are also occasionally discriminated against.

Isn't this a good thing?

The only ones to lambast are in the 16% who think minorities don't get discriminated against and the 55% that whites do.


I'm inclined to agree.

glitteringfairy posted...
Well the poll isn't wrong. This topic is a prime example


Also this FFS. I'm sure they were discriminated against in the same way they're all discriminated against by women.

Of course, it can't just be that they're shitty persons.

Makes me wonder how many white nationalist say something stupid then feel descriminated when they're mocked or ridiculed. I'm guessing a fair percentage.
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TheoryzC
10/25/17 2:19:47 PM
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DifferentialEquation
10/25/17 2:19:52 PM
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I think we can all agree that in the past minorities were definitely the ones that faced discrimination while in the present it's white people that face discrimination.
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SGT_Conti
10/25/17 2:20:09 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
I remember some chick who sued a school claiming she wasn't accepted in favor of black students...turns out she had worse grades than they did.

That sort of victim complex just brings me back to
SGT_Conti posted...
Even though Hershman believes he has been a victim of anti-white discrimination, he wasn't able to provide a specific example. He describes losing out on a promotion and a younger African-American being selected as one of the finalists for the job. But the position eventually went to a white applicant, who was also younger than Hershman.

lol

These are people who want to believe they're being oppressed for some unknown reason and are desperately looking for problems where there are none. Address things that are actual issues, like AA as you said, and not stuff like this.
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Ammonitida
10/25/17 2:20:18 PM
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Recent study finds no evidence that people with black and Hispanic names are discriminated in the labor market.

http://tinyurl.com/y76g5y75

Third, unlike Bertrand and Mullainathan
(2004), we find no consistent evidence of lower callback rates for racial minorities. We also find
a higher callback rate for females than males, particularly for whites.
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AlternativeFAQS
10/25/17 2:21:17 PM
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i cant even walk down the street without people throwing crackers at me :(
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Mal_Fet
10/25/17 2:21:32 PM
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averagejoel posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Well the poll isn't wrong. This topic is a prime example

yes, the poll is indeed correct in asserting that many white people believe they face discrimination. the people who believe that, though, are incorrect

Mal_Fet posted...
As long as affirmative action exists, they're correct.

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hockeybub89
10/25/17 2:21:51 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
I thought SJWs want us to listen, and not talk, to people who claim to be discriminated against. To just understand where they're coming from without minimizing their experience.

So you believe whites are victims of the system? GG you SJW. We live in 2017. Racism doesn't exist. Take responsibility.
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Ammonitida
10/25/17 2:22:00 PM
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DepreceV2 posted...
Lmao. If you have a name that sounds too "black" or "ghetto" on your application it is trashed before they even read it many times

This study failed to duplicate those results.

http://tinyurl.com/y76g5y75
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Anarchy_Juiblex
10/25/17 2:23:02 PM
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Funny how shit flips.

Now singular examples disprove the entire claim?
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Kineth
10/25/17 2:23:51 PM
#45:


Ammonitida posted...
Recent study finds no evidence that people with black and Hispanic names are discriminated in the labor market.

http://tinyurl.com/y76g5y75

Third, unlike Bertrand and Mullainathan
(2004), we find no consistent evidence of lower callback rates for racial minorities. We also find
a higher callback rate for females than males, particularly for whites.


Oh yeah, that one study from 2004 must explain everything.

In 2017, a study showed that having a middle eastern or east Asian name caused the applicant to be called back 28% less.

http://www.hireimmigrants.ca/wp-content/uploads/Final-Report-Which-employers-discriminate-Banerjee-Reitz-Oreopoulos-January-25-2017.pdf
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Knowledge_King
10/25/17 2:24:52 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
I think we can all agree that in the past minorities were definitely the ones that faced discrimination while in the present it's white people that face discrimination.


No we can't. It's literally still discrimination against minorities. Even Affirmative Action helps out white women more than anyone else.
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NINExATExSEVEN
10/25/17 2:25:06 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
I thought SJWs want us to listen, and not talk, to people who claim to be discriminated against. To just understand where they're coming from without minimizing their experience.


Nah no they don't. But who cares, they're increasing white identity politics all across the board and are causing whites to band together for their own self interests.

Its a good thing. We'll have the last laugh
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The Great Muta 22
10/25/17 2:25:47 PM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Nah no they don't. But who cares, they're increasing white identity politics all across the board and are causing whites to band together for their own self interests.

Its a good thing. We'll have the last laugh


At least you admit to being a white nationalist now
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Mal_Fet
10/25/17 2:25:47 PM
#49:


Kineth posted...
Oh yeah, that one study from 2004 must explain everything.

In 2017, a study showed that having a middle eastern or east Asian name caused the applicant to be called back 28% less.

http://www.hireimmigrants.ca

Yep, no potential for bias here.

But seriously, your study doesn't refute his. Unless of course you think black and hispanic is the same as middle eastern/east asian?
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Ammonitida
10/25/17 2:25:53 PM
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Kineth posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Recent study finds no evidence that people with black and Hispanic names are discriminated in the labor market.

http://tinyurl.com/y76g5y75

Third, unlike Bertrand and Mullainathan
(2004), we find no consistent evidence of lower callback rates for racial minorities. We also find
a higher callback rate for females than males, particularly for whites.


Oh yeah, that one study from 2004 must explain everything.

In 2017, a study showed that having a middle eastern or east Asian name caused the applicant to be called back 28% less.

http://www.hireimmigrants.ca/wp-content/uploads/Final-Report-Which-employers-discriminate-Banerjee-Reitz-Oreopoulos-January-25-2017.pdf


That study is from 2016. The 2004 study is the one that originally found that black names were discriminated against. But LOL.
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