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Shotgunnova
10/25/17 8:16:56 AM
#51:


Why is the "Happy" emote a guy on his knees, yelling at the sky while shaking his fists?
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Melonfarms
10/25/17 8:29:56 AM
#52:


Maybe they'll pull a Fortnite and rip off PUBG after the zombie mode doesn't bring players. A Battlegrounds mode on the Fox Engine would sell.
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DifferentialEquation
10/25/17 9:05:17 AM
#53:


l Dudeboy l posted...
I wouldn't preorder this game with money I stole off a dead guy.


Is that because it's just more convenient for you to go to store on release day buy the game that way, which is what you'll be doing for Metal Gear Survive?
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Kelystic
10/25/17 9:02:17 PM
#54:


apparently the game will be 39.99 at launch
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DarthAragorn
10/25/17 9:02:48 PM
#55:


That's not a bad price
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Kelystic
10/25/17 9:03:29 PM
#56:


yes and i predict a microtransaction galore
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REMercsChamp
10/25/17 9:05:54 PM
#57:


Kelystic posted...
apparently the game will be 39.99 at launch

What a bargain - AGAIN Konami proving they are one of the few pro-consumer companies left
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josifrees
10/25/17 9:07:30 PM
#58:


Holy shit 4 metallic scarves??? TAKE MY MONEY
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MutantJohn
10/25/17 9:08:37 PM
#59:


If it really did write out V from existence, that would blow my mind. It'd be nice to have a real MGS game. V was pretty much an unmitigated disaster. We still got a good game but ultimately, it was pretty underwhelming for the purported final MGS game.
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REMercsChamp
10/25/17 9:11:29 PM
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MutantJohn posted...
If it really did write out V from existence, that would blow my mind. It'd be nice to have a real MGS game. V was pretty much an unmitigated disaster. We still got a good game but ultimately, it was pretty underwhelming for the purported final MGS game.

Konami at this point is trying to undo some of the damage Kojima and his GIANT EGO did to the series and get it off life support
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ZombiePelican
10/26/17 2:15:06 AM
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REMercsChamp posted...
Konami at this point is trying to undo some of the damage Kojima and his GIANT EGO did to the series and get it off life support

Yeah because them forcing Kojima's hand on a bunch of shit for the sake of penny pinching and a petty vendetta at the tail end of MGSV's development definitely made it a better game overall

/sarcasm
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thompsontalker7
10/26/17 2:16:35 AM
#62:


DarthAragorn posted...
Still a better game than MGSV

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thompsontalker7
10/26/17 2:16:57 AM
#63:


ZombiePelican posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
Konami at this point is trying to undo some of the damage Kojima and his GIANT EGO did to the series and get it off life support

Yeah because them forcing Kojima's hand on a bunch of shit for the sake of penny pinching and a petty vendetta at the tail end of MGSV's development definitely made it a better game overall

/sarcasm


>penny pinching
>19th most expensive game ever made
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thompsontalker7
10/26/17 2:18:53 AM
#64:


DarthAragorn posted...
Swagnificent119 posted...
The true ending of the game has you going back in time to before Skull Face destroyed Mother Base, effectively wiping MGS V from existence

I'd literally buy two copies if this happens

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thompsontalker7
10/26/17 2:19:26 AM
#65:


What's that

I bought MGSV at launch and I'm regretting it every day?

Certainly not
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Samurontai
10/26/17 2:19:53 AM
#66:


It looks nice, but I'll probably wait until some nice reviews come out before risking my money
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Richbark1
10/26/17 2:24:33 AM
#67:


Samurontai posted...
It looks nice, but I'll probably wait until some nice reviews come out before risking my money

Same here.
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ZombiePelican
10/26/17 2:25:55 AM
#68:


thompsontalker7 posted...
>penny pinching
>19th most expensive game ever made

Did you not read the entire post? At the tail end they made him cut a bunch of shit short for because they were scared and the CEO was said to have a vendetta against Kojima.

Do you think Kojima brought forth and made a big show of Kiefer Sutherland being Snake's voice only for him to say almost nothing the entire game? Obviously not. Konami cut most of his lines to cut costs and spite Kojima.

Like of all companies to put faith in above a specific creator Konami is like one of the worst possible choices. Like have you been following their track record outside of MGS in the last near decade? It's been pretty poor
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thompsontalker7
10/26/17 2:31:03 AM
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ZombiePelican posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...
>penny pinching
>19th most expensive game ever made

Did you not read the entire post? At the tail end they made him cut a bunch of shit short for because they were scared and the CEO was said to have a vendetta against Kojima.

Do you think Kojima brought forth and made a big show of Kiefer Sutherland being Snake's voice only for him to say almost nothing the entire game? Obviously not. Konami cut most of his lines to cut costs and spite Kojima.

Like of all companies to put faith in above a specific creator Konami is like one of the worst possible choices. Like have you been following their track record outside of MGS in the last near decade? It's been pretty poor


The aforementioned "penny pinching" had almost nothing to do with the vendetta. The final product is still the 19th most expensive game ever produced.

Kojima straight up mentioned Snake would talk less from the start. He picked Kiefer because he has a hard-on for American actors.

I know Kojima fanboys like to think Konami is the sole reason for why MGSV exists the way it does. But no one at Konami likely told Kojima to have that stupid plot twist, nor the halfassed story or pointless open world, or many of the other things that make MGSV trash
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ZombiePelican
10/26/17 3:06:15 AM
#70:


thompsontalker7 posted...
The aforementioned "penny pinching" had almost nothing to do with the vendetta. The final product is still the 19th most expensive game ever produced.

Not disagreeing about the price, however that doesn't make Konami's actions not penny pinching

thompsontalker7 posted...
Kojima straight up mentioned Snake would talk less from the start. He picked Kiefer because he has a hard-on for American actors.

People literally found unused voice lines of Kiefer Sutherland in the code of the game, that were said aloud in the Japanese dub there's a big difference between talking less and not talking at all.

thompsontalker7 posted...
I know Kojima fanboys like to think Konami is the sole reason for why MGSV exists the way it does.

Because they are...they meddled with the project and ruined it. They even stated they meddled with it to spite Kojima

thompsontalker7 posted...
But no one at Konami likely told Kojima to have that stupid plot twist, nor the halfassed story or pointless open world, or many of the other things that make MGSV trash

Then why didn't Konami keep a tighter eye on him and his spending up until near the end of development if he's clearly as irresponsible of a dev as you say? The shareholders clearly had faith in Kojima up to that point, so then what changed?

MGS4 sold over 6 million copies on a single platform and this one was on 5, this game was a guaranteed success, so why start deciding to penny pinch after most of the damn game is done and money is spent, why scrub Kojima's name from everything after all the work he put unless out of spite him?

You're logic doesn't add up when so many questionable actions from Konami appear to target the man directly in top of that they've ignorantly pissed away money on worse things than letting Kojima finish MGSV even with all his convoluted bullshit writen in
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Swagnificent119
10/26/17 3:14:16 AM
#71:


You are aware that they don't magically *not* pay Keifer Sutherland if they decide to not use lines he recorded, right?
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ZombiePelican
10/26/17 3:18:45 AM
#72:


Swagnificent119 posted...
You are aware that they don't magically *not* pay Keifer Sutherland if they decide to not use lines he recorded, right?

He probably only got paid upfront and won't get royalties this way, even then if what you're saying is true it only cements my point that what happened to MGSV was done out of spite for Kojima. Sutherland was his hand picked voice of snake and if he was going to get paid whether they used the lines or not why cut them in the first place? That's just wasting time and money Konami were reportedly trying to "save"
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D-Lo_BrownTown
10/26/17 3:23:07 AM
#73:


ZombiePelican once again proving he has no fucking clue what he is talking about lol

FYI: You don't get to skip royalty payments because you don't use a few lines someone recorded.
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MwarriorHiei
10/26/17 3:27:14 AM
#74:


D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
XplodnPnguins92 posted...
d-walker was in phantom pain.


It wasn't in Ground Zeroes, and Survive takes place directly after Ground Zeroes.

the people went through a goddamn wormhole. how hard is it to believe that the alternate dimension they ended up in has walkers in it.
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ZombiePelican
10/26/17 3:30:12 AM
#75:


D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
ZombiePelican once again proving he has no fucking clue what he is talking about lol

FYI: You don't get to skip royalty payments because you don't use a few lines someone recorded.

Alright then, enlighten me.

What are the odds Sutherland got a royalty deal out of this?
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thompsontalker7
10/26/17 3:33:15 AM
#76:


ZombiePelican posted...
Swagnificent119 posted...
You are aware that they don't magically *not* pay Keifer Sutherland if they decide to not use lines he recorded, right?

He probably only got paid upfront and won't get royalties this way, even then if what you're saying is true it only cements my point that what happened to MGSV was done out of spite for Kojima. Sutherland was his hand picked voice of snake and if he was going to get paid whether they used the lines or not why cut them in the first place? That's just wasting time and money Konami were reportedly trying to "save"


I do voice acting on occasion and extra lines are done all the time and hidden away for various reasons. Sometimes it's DLC prep, others its failsafing. In Persona the protagonist even has callouts for his teammates Personas in case someone hacks them in.

So no, a few unused lines don't mean anything. They don't pay you per line for a big game like this.

Stop assuming that everything is tied to MGSV being trash because at this point your speculation is just that. Kojima fucked up most of MGSV on his own and Konami only intensified it.
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Oakland510_
10/26/17 3:37:14 AM
#77:


No Kojima No Buy
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ZombiePelican
10/26/17 3:38:17 AM
#78:


thompsontalker7 posted...

I do voice acting and extra lines are done all the time and hidden away for various reasons. Sometimes it's DLC prep, others its failsafing. In Persona the protagonist even has callouts for his teammates Personas in case someone hacks them in.

These are more than just extra lines it's entire swaths of dialogue cut purely out of, stop reaching for the sake of being a corporate mouthpiece

thompsontalker7 posted...
Stop assuming that everything is tied to MGSV being trash because at this point your speculation is just that. Kojima fucked up most of MGSV on his own and Konami only intensified it.

Yeah, that's clearly why they burnt all bridges with him and scrubbed his name from his magnum opus and fucking barred him from even accepting awards at award shows for it
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D-Lo_BrownTown
10/26/17 3:40:25 AM
#79:


Source for this dialogue? Cause everything I've ever seen has been little shit and I'm genuinely curious to hear what got cut.
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thompsontalker7
10/26/17 3:45:12 AM
#80:


ZombiePelican posted...

These are more than just extra lines it's entire swaths of dialogue cut purely out of, stop reaching for the sake of being a corporate mouthpiece


https://soundcloud.com/gboon/sets/removed-venom-snake-sutherland-dialogue

Oh yeah. 40 something seconds. swaths of dialogue man

ZombiePelican posted...

Yeah, that's clearly why they burnt all bridges with him and scrubbed his name from his magnum opus and fucking barred him from even accepting awards at award shows for it


Bruh, who the fuck cares. Their little feud with Kojima didn't stop MGSV from happening in the end, now Kojima has to own up to it being trash.
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D-Lo_BrownTown
10/26/17 3:48:22 AM
#81:


Can't wait till Death Stranding ends up being a pretentious pile of garbage

"It's all Sony's fault! They only gave him 10 years to finish the game he needed 11 to make it proper!"
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thompsontalker7
10/26/17 3:49:00 AM
#82:


D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
Can't wait till Death Stranding ends up being a pretentious pile of garbage

"It's all Sony's fault! They only gave him 10 years to finish the game he needed 11 to make it proper!"


"Norman Reedus is expensive! Sony should've given Kojima more money instead of make his character say almost nothing!"
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REMercsChamp
10/26/17 7:14:47 AM
#83:


D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
Can't wait till Death Stranding ends up being a pretentious pile of garbage

"It's all Sony's fault! They only gave him 10 years to finish the game he needed 11 to make it proper!"

Yeah - why not let him have 30 years to make it while generating no revenue during that time and draining the company of all of its money. After all, Kojima's enormous ego needs to be satisfied!
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D-Lo_BrownTown
10/26/17 7:20:56 AM
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drunkmuggle
10/27/17 3:06:07 PM
#85:


Romulox28 posted...
D a y

O n e

P u r c h a s e

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