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Darmik 10/22/17 6:54:12 PM #1: |
https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/10/neogaf-goes-dark-after-sexual-misconduct-allegation-against-owner/
The mass exodus was spurred by a Facebook post last Tuesday by film director Ima Leupp. The post, a part of the millions-strong #MeToo phenomenon that has women speaking out about personal instances of sexual harassment, described a trip Leupp says she took with NeoGAF owner Tyler "Evilore" Malka two years ago. In a phone conversation with Kotaku, Leupp said that even after the alleged shower incident, she'd continued her friendship and even had a brief physical relationship with Malka until they had a falling out at E3 2015. In one thread, a NeoGAF poster uploaded screencaps of another woman's #MeToo post, involving allegations about a film journalist. Sarah, who asked that Kotaku use a fake name, has posted on NeoGAF since 2010 because she thought it was a comfortable place for women to discuss games on the internet. Of recent events, she said, "When all the guys started getting banned for defending women speaking up, I realised this has been a problem for a long time. The girls on GAF are leaving, not talking anymore. It seems like Tyler is shutting down talk of misogyny or sexism and stuff like that in a harsh way." RIP NeoGAF --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Akagami_Shanks 10/22/17 6:55:37 PM #2: |
brief physical relationship
well I guess it didn't affect her as much as she's making it out to be if she ended up fucking him anyway. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 10/22/17 7:07:15 PM #3: |
She was drinking with a dude in a hotel room and even took a shower with him in it? Even ended up having sex with the dude some time later? Huh, idk man.
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D-Lo_BrownTown 10/22/17 7:09:20 PM #4: |
Me Too
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Darmik 10/22/17 7:10:25 PM #5: |
It's a combination of everything really. It's his actions with her combined with his attitude about these allegations and how he treats women when they're drunk that has lead to this total shit storm. He's a creep who doesn't respect boundaries. The girl forgiving him doesn't really change that.
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chill02 10/22/17 7:14:00 PM #6: |
and nothing of value was lost
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Sakuyakun 10/22/17 9:51:14 PM #7: |
In a phone conversation with Kotaku, Leupp said that even after the alleged shower incident, shed continued her friendship and even had a brief physical relationship with Malka until they had a falling out at E3 2015 He really botched this one out for not making a fast statement. --- Currently playing Witcher 3. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 10/22/17 9:52:53 PM #8: |
Depends. It's entirely possible his defense of the situation is what caused the mods to leave.
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DoubleDare 10/22/17 9:54:45 PM #9: |
95% of bathrooms have a locking door.
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Darmik 10/22/17 10:00:32 PM #10: |
DoubleDare posted...
95% of bathrooms have a locking door. She was drunk and vomiting. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 10/22/17 10:08:13 PM #11: |
Luke and Laura, after Luke does something stupid, and Laura gets vindictive.
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StucklnMyPants 10/22/17 10:19:49 PM #12: |
Darmik posted...
I had a boyfriend at the time and didn't think I had given him any reason to believe I wanted this. Sharing a hotel room and drinking with a guy seems like a pretty good indicator to me. IDK, maybe it's different where I come from. --- Rage, rage against the dying of the light. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sylverlolol 10/22/17 10:27:04 PM #13: |
StucklnMyPants posted...
Darmik posted...I had a boyfriend at the time and didn't think I had given him any reason to believe I wanted this. What? Unless she gave clear indication that she had a desire to be more than friends...yeah, that doesn't mean anything. They could've decided to share the room to save money. --- This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 10/22/17 10:28:36 PM #14: |
StucklnMyPants posted...
Darmik posted...I had a boyfriend at the time and didn't think I had given him any reason to believe I wanted this. Not really. It's not like they were strangers. Going to a friends hotel room doesn't mean you want to bang them. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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apolloooo 10/22/17 11:02:33 PM #15: |
chill02 posted...
and nothing of value was lost --- http://i.imgtc.com/iJyp6bF.png http://i.imgtc.com/ZBw36Qh.png Thanks for the peeps that made the pics <3 if i make typos it means i am on phone ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Drasilor 10/22/17 11:16:28 PM #16: |
Akagami_Shanks posted...
brief physical relationship --- #mypresidentistrump ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 10/22/17 11:28:05 PM #17: |
Akagami_Shanks posted...
brief physical relationship Everyone's riding the Weinstien coattails. This is just going to keep popping up in various places for the next month or so. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sakuyakun 10/22/17 11:28:10 PM #18: |
In a phone conversation with Kotaku, Leupp said that even after the alleged shower incident, shed continued her friendship and even had a brief physical relationship with Malka until they had a falling out at E3 2015 I still can't believe neogaf burned down because of this --- Currently playing Witcher 3. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Akagami_Shanks 10/23/17 4:37:39 AM #19: |
yeah she should have put that part in her Facebook post
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DoubleDare 10/23/17 6:37:20 AM #20: |
Yea you usually try to see if a girl is interested by trying to kiss her or something else.
Only an awkward person would probably think just showing up in the shower nude would be a good idea to see if the girl really is interested. --- On Your Mark...Get Set........GO!!!!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pastryarchy 10/23/17 6:48:23 AM #21: |
The girl forgiving him doesn't really look good for her allegations. Darmik posted... Going to a friends hotel room doesn't mean you want to bang them. That I agree with. It's not much different then when two platonic business partners share a hotel room. They drink together too. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PBusted 10/23/17 6:50:33 AM #22: |
huh
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SavenForever 10/23/17 7:20:01 AM #23: |
Girl seems scummy, but evilore has admitted to sexual assault in the past so it finally caught up to him. Fuck him.
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LoneCourier2281 10/23/17 7:27:45 AM #24: |
StucklnMyPants posted...
Darmik posted...I had a boyfriend at the time and didn't think I had given him any reason to believe I wanted this. I've shared hotels with friends of the opposite sex and nothing was ever implied whatsoever, but I guess I can't say everyone is the same. --- "I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sakuyakun 10/23/17 10:29:12 AM #25: |
I really think there is really more story behind this incident.
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josifrees 10/23/17 10:32:33 AM #26: |
This girl is actually sailor bacon in disguise
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UnfairRepresent 10/23/17 10:33:03 AM #27: |
It worries me that CE Thinks rape is ok so long as you have consensual sex lAter
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GameGodOfAll 10/23/17 12:22:21 PM #28: |
StucklnMyPants posted...
Darmik posted...I had a boyfriend at the time and didn't think I had given him any reason to believe I wanted this. Wow you seem pretty fucked up in the head. --- My Words Were True And Sheamus Made You Believe! http://imgur.com/Fc39f.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Monolith1676 10/23/17 12:28:29 PM #29: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
It worries me that CE Thinks rape is ok so long as you have consensual sex lAter Standing near someone and being naked is not rape. --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LoneCourier2281 10/23/17 12:33:54 PM #30: |
Monolith1676 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...It worries me that CE Thinks rape is ok so long as you have consensual sex lAter It's sexual assault though, at least what he allegedly did. --- "I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sami1000 10/23/17 12:42:57 PM #31: |
Leupp said that even after the alleged shower incident, she'd continued her friendship and even had a brief physical relationship with Malka until they had a falling out at E3 2015. So, all that "monster" did was he pulled a "naked man", but didn't do anything without her consent, and continued normally after that? Then later he *gasp* squeezed someone's butt? --- Can't think any good sig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sami1000 10/23/17 12:45:15 PM #32: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
It worries me that CE Thinks rape is ok so long as you have consensual sex lAter Explain to me how do you rape someone without touching them? --- Can't think any good sig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Awesome 10/23/17 12:49:49 PM #33: |
no he grabbed a womens ass at a club in spain years ago and the shower woman is someone different. so the guys a sexual assaulter and after he assaulted the woman she was so traumatized she entered a relationship with him. so a gold digger + sexual assaulter = .....
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Monolith1676 10/23/17 12:57:30 PM #34: |
LoneCourier2281 posted...
Monolith1676 posted...UnfairRepresent posted...It worries me that CE Thinks rape is ok so long as you have consensual sex lAter It is actually more indecent exposure. --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jeff AKA Snoopy 10/23/17 12:57:52 PM #35: |
Why would you enter into a physical relationship with someone willingly if they did something so disgusting to you?
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Awesome 10/23/17 12:59:50 PM #36: |
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Why would you enter into a physical relationship with someone willingly if they did something so disgusting to you? money --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Turtlebread 10/23/17 1:01:21 PM #37: |
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Why would you enter into a physical relationship with someone willingly if they did something so disgusting to you? victim blaming MARKED --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Virus731 10/23/17 1:01:46 PM #38: |
StucklnMyPants posted...
Sharing a hotel room and drinking with a guy seems like a pretty good indicator to me. IDK, maybe it's different where I come from. Darmik posted... Not really. It's not like they were strangers. Going to a friends hotel room doesn't mean you want to bang them. 100% of the time a girl going into a room with a bed and drinking with you means that she's at least aware sex can happen. I've even been told by female friends "if she's on your bed and there are other places to sit, make a move" --- I hope this ****in' world ****in' burns away And I'd kill you all if I had my way ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jeff AKA Snoopy 10/23/17 1:05:30 PM #39: |
I'm not blaming anybody for the circumstances that led up to their relationship. I'm just wondering what happened to bring that about.
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NOM 10/23/17 1:07:43 PM #40: |
Claims she was sexually harassed by someone
Eventually fucks him anyway ??? Lol NeoGAF burned down for this? For some vindictive female? Should've released a statement real quick Evilore and put her in her place. --- I dream broken dreams I make them come true ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Coffeebeanz 10/23/17 1:08:45 PM #41: |
I've had a guy walk in on me during a shower.
But it's because I was on call and my pager kept going off in the resident lounge. I just let it go, but honestly that's not appropriate. He's actually a really sweet guy who wouldn't harm a fly, so I don't want to run his life over a lapse in judgement. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GreatEvilEmpire 10/23/17 1:23:25 PM #42: |
Malka did something stupid, but what he did with Sarah was neither sexual harassment or sexual assault. He made the mistake of thinking she wanted to have sex that night and she didn't.
Rational heads will see that what Malka did was awkward and stupid. Virgins will want to crucify him because they're well, virgins. --- Sig under construction! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mario2000 10/23/17 1:24:43 PM #43: |
rest in shit neogaf
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Virus731 10/23/17 1:24:44 PM #44: |
Coffeebeanz posted...
I've had a guy walk in on me during a shower. walking into the bathroom and walking into the shower are too very different things sure, it's not appropriate but it wasn't sexual in nature at all and it sounds like you're just being a princess GreatEvilEmpire posted... Rational heads will see that what Malka did was awkward and stupid. Virgins will want to crucify him because they're well, virgins. agreed --- I hope this ****in' world ****in' burns away And I'd kill you all if I had my way ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sakuyakun 10/23/17 1:25:05 PM #45: |
We really don't know the whole story since we haven't heard from both sides.
Both were drinking alcohol, we don't know if the guy misinterpreted some things that made him go to the shower naked. SHE said NO, he backs down and didn't do anything else. EVEN after that They still have sex and have a physical relationship. I mean like wtf how do we know how credible the story is after all that was revealed from the kotaku article compared to the facebook screenshots. This is why it's better we get the whole information before we start accusing people left and right --- Currently playing Witcher 3. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 10/23/17 1:27:04 PM #47: |
Darmik posted...
Malka asked, "No evidence at all? No corroborating testimony? No behavioural red flags?," adding, "So far this is nothing like other recent industry scandals." Later, after receiving pushback from posters who found his initial comment callous, Malka described posters' immediate support of the #MeToo post as "witch hunts," adding that it will take time for the allegations' veracity to be proven. Isn't this the guy who permabans people for doubting rape survivor stories? Even if the allegations are completely false, this is a huge fair, next. You reap what you sow, bud. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Virus731 10/23/17 1:27:56 PM #48: |
Sakuyakun posted...
Both were drinking alcohol, we don't know if the guy misinterpreted some things that made him go to the shower naked. SHE said NO, he backs down and didn't do anything else. EVEN after that They still have sex and have a physical relationship. I don't understand how you can misinterpret a girl throwing up in the shower as an invitation to get naked with her in said shower. --- I hope this ****in' world ****in' burns away And I'd kill you all if I had my way ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sakuyakun 10/23/17 1:29:47 PM #49: |
Virus731 posted...
Sakuyakun posted...SHE said NO, he backs down and didn't do anything else. Some posters here is saying now it's sexual assault. WTF are you guys drinking after reading all that? --- Currently playing Witcher 3. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Virus731 10/23/17 1:33:16 PM #50: |
Sakuyakun posted...
Virus731 posted...Sakuyakun posted...SHE said NO, he backs down and didn't do anything else. I misread it again and deleted it. Fuck off shitposter. --- I hope this ****in' world ****in' burns away And I'd kill you all if I had my way ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GreatEvilEmpire 10/23/17 1:38:24 PM #51: |
Sakuyakun posted...
Some posters here is saying now it's sexual assault. WTF are you guys drinking after reading all that? Like I said in the past, some people have a manhunt mindset. There is some irrational hatred going on and people don't want to admit it. Incels are happy to jump on the hate train because they hate men who are getting women and they're not. --- Sig under construction! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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