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Darmik
10/22/17 6:54:12 PM
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https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/10/neogaf-goes-dark-after-sexual-misconduct-allegation-against-owner/

The mass exodus was spurred by a Facebook post last Tuesday by film director Ima Leupp. The post, a part of the millions-strong #MeToo phenomenon that has women speaking out about personal instances of sexual harassment, described a trip Leupp says she took with NeoGAF owner Tyler "Evilore" Malka two years ago.

Although she originally did not name Malka, she later posted in the comments of her thread that interested parties should "google Evilore." She said that while she and Malka, who was her friend, were drinking together in a New Orleans hotel room in April 2015, she became very sick.

Then, she says, Malka came up behind her in the shower without her consent. She says she told him to get the hell out.

She wrote: "I was throwing up and decided to hop in the shower to feel better. I was surprised when he got into the shower, fully naked behind me. I had a boyfriend at the time and didn't think I had given him any reason to believe I wanted this. I didn't cheat." The post was screencapped and has been shared widely over the past few days.


In a phone conversation with Kotaku, Leupp said that even after the alleged shower incident, she'd continued her friendship and even had a brief physical relationship with Malka until they had a falling out at E3 2015.

She said that, prior to the alleged shower incident "I had no reason not to trust him. He had been introducing me to people and helping me network for my film company," she told me. "I feel gross from having ever been in contact with this person."


In one thread, a NeoGAF poster uploaded screencaps of another woman's #MeToo post, involving allegations about a film journalist.

Malka asked, "No evidence at all? No corroborating testimony? No behavioural red flags?," adding, "So far this is nothing like other recent industry scandals." Later, after receiving pushback from posters who found his initial comment callous, Malka described posters' immediate support of the #MeToo post as "witch hunts," adding that it will take time for the allegations' veracity to be proven.


Sarah, who asked that Kotaku use a fake name, has posted on NeoGAF since 2010 because she thought it was a comfortable place for women to discuss games on the internet. Of recent events, she said, "When all the guys started getting banned for defending women speaking up, I realised this has been a problem for a long time. The girls on GAF are leaving, not talking anymore. It seems like Tyler is shutting down talk of misogyny or sexism and stuff like that in a harsh way."

One incident that has recirculated in the wake of these allegations is a 2012 post in which Malka described how, at a party in Spain, he grabbed a woman's butt after buying her a drink:

"At one point in a bar a girl who didn't speak any English came up to me and started flirting heavily, then went straight into asking me to buy her a drink ... I laughed because drinks here were all of two Euros, but consented and then grabbed her arse hard to show that I wasn't being taken advantage of, and she thought better of treating me as a mark and left without taking her drink."

In his defence, Malka later commented, "I don't endorse getting overly physical with complete strangers without any implication of consent," but added, "This was a very specific situation that went down. We're all smashed, hard, at this million person party where normalcy is thrown at the window."


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Akagami_Shanks
10/22/17 6:55:37 PM
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brief physical relationship

well I guess it didn't affect her as much as she's making it out to be if she ended up fucking him anyway.
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A_Good_Boy
10/22/17 7:07:15 PM
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She was drinking with a dude in a hotel room and even took a shower with him in it? Even ended up having sex with the dude some time later? Huh, idk man.
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10/22/17 7:09:20 PM
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Darmik
10/22/17 7:10:25 PM
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It's a combination of everything really. It's his actions with her combined with his attitude about these allegations and how he treats women when they're drunk that has lead to this total shit storm. He's a creep who doesn't respect boundaries. The girl forgiving him doesn't really change that.
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chill02
10/22/17 7:14:00 PM
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and nothing of value was lost
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Sakuyakun
10/22/17 9:51:14 PM
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In a phone conversation with Kotaku, Leupp said that even after the alleged shower incident, shed continued her friendship and even had a brief physical relationship with Malka until they had a falling out at E3 2015


He really botched this one out for not making a fast statement.
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Darmik
10/22/17 9:52:53 PM
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Depends. It's entirely possible his defense of the situation is what caused the mods to leave.
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DoubleDare
10/22/17 9:54:45 PM
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95% of bathrooms have a locking door.
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Darmik
10/22/17 10:00:32 PM
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DoubleDare posted...
95% of bathrooms have a locking door.


She was drunk and vomiting.
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Questionmarktarius
10/22/17 10:08:13 PM
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Luke and Laura, after Luke does something stupid, and Laura gets vindictive.

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StucklnMyPants
10/22/17 10:19:49 PM
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Darmik posted...
I had a boyfriend at the time and didn't think I had given him any reason to believe I wanted this.

Sharing a hotel room and drinking with a guy seems like a pretty good indicator to me. IDK, maybe it's different where I come from.
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sylverlolol
10/22/17 10:27:04 PM
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StucklnMyPants posted...
Darmik posted...
I had a boyfriend at the time and didn't think I had given him any reason to believe I wanted this.

Sharing a hotel room and drinking with a guy seems like a pretty good indicator to me. IDK, maybe it's different where I come from.

What? Unless she gave clear indication that she had a desire to be more than friends...yeah, that doesn't mean anything. They could've decided to share the room to save money.
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Darmik
10/22/17 10:28:36 PM
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StucklnMyPants posted...
Darmik posted...
I had a boyfriend at the time and didn't think I had given him any reason to believe I wanted this.

Sharing a hotel room and drinking with a guy seems like a pretty good indicator to me. IDK, maybe it's different where I come from.


Not really. It's not like they were strangers. Going to a friends hotel room doesn't mean you want to bang them.
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10/22/17 11:02:33 PM
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chill02 posted...
and nothing of value was lost

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Drasilor
10/22/17 11:16:28 PM
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Akagami_Shanks posted...
brief physical relationship

well I guess it didn't affect her as much as she's making it out to be if she ended up fucking him anyway.

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Questionmarktarius
10/22/17 11:28:05 PM
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Akagami_Shanks posted...
brief physical relationship

well I guess it didn't affect her as much as she's making it out to be if she ended up fucking him anyway.

Everyone's riding the Weinstien coattails. This is just going to keep popping up in various places for the next month or so.
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Sakuyakun
10/22/17 11:28:10 PM
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In a phone conversation with Kotaku, Leupp said that even after the alleged shower incident, shed continued her friendship and even had a brief physical relationship with Malka until they had a falling out at E3 2015


I still can't believe neogaf burned down because of this
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Akagami_Shanks
10/23/17 4:37:39 AM
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yeah she should have put that part in her Facebook post

"So eventually I ended up banging him but...still!"
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DoubleDare
10/23/17 6:37:20 AM
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Yea you usually try to see if a girl is interested by trying to kiss her or something else.

Only an awkward person would probably think just showing up in the shower nude would be a good idea to see if the girl really is interested.
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Pastryarchy
10/23/17 6:48:23 AM
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The girl forgiving him doesn't really look good for her allegations.


Darmik posted...
Going to a friends hotel room doesn't mean you want to bang them.

That I agree with. It's not much different then when two platonic business partners share a hotel room. They drink together too.
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PBusted
10/23/17 6:50:33 AM
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huh
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SavenForever
10/23/17 7:20:01 AM
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Girl seems scummy, but evilore has admitted to sexual assault in the past so it finally caught up to him. Fuck him.
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LoneCourier2281
10/23/17 7:27:45 AM
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StucklnMyPants posted...
Darmik posted...
I had a boyfriend at the time and didn't think I had given him any reason to believe I wanted this.

Sharing a hotel room and drinking with a guy seems like a pretty good indicator to me. IDK, maybe it's different where I come from.


I've shared hotels with friends of the opposite sex and nothing was ever implied whatsoever, but I guess I can't say everyone is the same.
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Sakuyakun
10/23/17 10:29:12 AM
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I really think there is really more story behind this incident.
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josifrees
10/23/17 10:32:33 AM
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This girl is actually sailor bacon in disguise
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UnfairRepresent
10/23/17 10:33:03 AM
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It worries me that CE Thinks rape is ok so long as you have consensual sex lAter
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GameGodOfAll
10/23/17 12:22:21 PM
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StucklnMyPants posted...
Darmik posted...
I had a boyfriend at the time and didn't think I had given him any reason to believe I wanted this.

Sharing a hotel room and drinking with a guy seems like a pretty good indicator to me. IDK, maybe it's different where I come from.

Wow you seem pretty fucked up in the head.
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Monolith1676
10/23/17 12:28:29 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
It worries me that CE Thinks rape is ok so long as you have consensual sex lAter


Standing near someone and being naked is not rape.
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LoneCourier2281
10/23/17 12:33:54 PM
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Monolith1676 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
It worries me that CE Thinks rape is ok so long as you have consensual sex lAter


Standing near someone and being naked is not rape.


It's sexual assault though, at least what he allegedly did.
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Sami1000
10/23/17 12:42:57 PM
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Leupp said that even after the alleged shower incident, she'd continued her friendship and even had a brief physical relationship with Malka until they had a falling out at E3 2015.


So, all that "monster" did was he pulled a "naked man", but didn't do anything without her consent, and continued normally after that?

Then later he *gasp* squeezed someone's butt?
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Sami1000
10/23/17 12:45:15 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
It worries me that CE Thinks rape is ok so long as you have consensual sex lAter


Explain to me how do you rape someone without touching them?
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Awesome
10/23/17 12:49:49 PM
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no he grabbed a womens ass at a club in spain years ago and the shower woman is someone different. so the guys a sexual assaulter and after he assaulted the woman she was so traumatized she entered a relationship with him. so a gold digger + sexual assaulter = .....
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Monolith1676
10/23/17 12:57:30 PM
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LoneCourier2281 posted...
Monolith1676 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
It worries me that CE Thinks rape is ok so long as you have consensual sex lAter


Standing near someone and being naked is not rape.


It's sexual assault though, at least what he allegedly did.


It is actually more indecent exposure.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
10/23/17 12:57:52 PM
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Why would you enter into a physical relationship with someone willingly if they did something so disgusting to you?
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Awesome
10/23/17 12:59:50 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Why would you enter into a physical relationship with someone willingly if they did something so disgusting to you?


money
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Turtlebread
10/23/17 1:01:21 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Why would you enter into a physical relationship with someone willingly if they did something so disgusting to you?


victim blaming
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Virus731
10/23/17 1:01:46 PM
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StucklnMyPants posted...
Sharing a hotel room and drinking with a guy seems like a pretty good indicator to me. IDK, maybe it's different where I come from.

Darmik posted...
Not really. It's not like they were strangers. Going to a friends hotel room doesn't mean you want to bang them.


100% of the time a girl going into a room with a bed and drinking with you means that she's at least aware sex can happen. I've even been told by female friends "if she's on your bed and there are other places to sit, make a move"
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
10/23/17 1:05:30 PM
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I'm not blaming anybody for the circumstances that led up to their relationship. I'm just wondering what happened to bring that about.
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NOM
10/23/17 1:07:43 PM
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Claims she was sexually harassed by someone
Eventually fucks him anyway

???

Lol NeoGAF burned down for this? For some vindictive female?

Should've released a statement real quick Evilore and put her in her place.
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Coffeebeanz
10/23/17 1:08:45 PM
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I've had a guy walk in on me during a shower.

But it's because I was on call and my pager kept going off in the resident lounge. I just let it go, but honestly that's not appropriate. He's actually a really sweet guy who wouldn't harm a fly, so I don't want to run his life over a lapse in judgement.
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GreatEvilEmpire
10/23/17 1:23:25 PM
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Malka did something stupid, but what he did with Sarah was neither sexual harassment or sexual assault. He made the mistake of thinking she wanted to have sex that night and she didn't.

Rational heads will see that what Malka did was awkward and stupid. Virgins will want to crucify him because they're well, virgins.
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mario2000
10/23/17 1:24:43 PM
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rest in shit neogaf
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Virus731
10/23/17 1:24:44 PM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
I've had a guy walk in on me during a shower.

But it's because I was on call and my pager kept going off in the resident lounge. I just let it go, but honestly that's not appropriate. He's actually a really sweet guy who wouldn't harm a fly, so I don't want to run his life over a lapse in judgement.


walking into the bathroom and walking into the shower are too very different things

sure, it's not appropriate but it wasn't sexual in nature at all and it sounds like you're just being a princess

GreatEvilEmpire posted...
Rational heads will see that what Malka did was awkward and stupid. Virgins will want to crucify him because they're well, virgins.


agreed
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Sakuyakun
10/23/17 1:25:05 PM
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We really don't know the whole story since we haven't heard from both sides.

Both were drinking alcohol, we don't know if the guy misinterpreted some things that made him go to the shower naked. SHE said NO, he backs down and didn't do anything else. EVEN after that They still have sex and have a physical relationship.

I mean like wtf how do we know how credible the story is after all that was revealed from the kotaku article compared to the facebook screenshots. This is why it's better we get the whole information before we start accusing people left and right
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Mal_Fet
10/23/17 1:27:04 PM
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Darmik posted...
Malka asked, "No evidence at all? No corroborating testimony? No behavioural red flags?," adding, "So far this is nothing like other recent industry scandals." Later, after receiving pushback from posters who found his initial comment callous, Malka described posters' immediate support of the #MeToo post as "witch hunts," adding that it will take time for the allegations' veracity to be proven.

Isn't this the guy who permabans people for doubting rape survivor stories?

Even if the allegations are completely false, this is a huge fair, next. You reap what you sow, bud.
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Virus731
10/23/17 1:27:56 PM
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Sakuyakun posted...
Both were drinking alcohol, we don't know if the guy misinterpreted some things that made him go to the shower naked. SHE said NO, he backs down and didn't do anything else. EVEN after that They still have sex and have a physical relationship.


I don't understand how you can misinterpret a girl throwing up in the shower as an invitation to get naked with her in said shower.
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Sakuyakun
10/23/17 1:29:47 PM
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Virus731 posted...
Sakuyakun posted...
SHE said NO, he backs down and didn't do anything else.


I must have missed that part... what's the problem then? It's only human to misread signals and if you back off at NO than isn't that the best you can do?


Some posters here is saying now it's sexual assault. WTF are you guys drinking after reading all that?
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Virus731
10/23/17 1:33:16 PM
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Sakuyakun posted...
Virus731 posted...
Sakuyakun posted...
SHE said NO, he backs down and didn't do anything else.


I must have missed that part... what's the problem then? It's only human to misread signals and if you back off at NO than isn't that the best you can do?


Some posters here is saying now it's sexual assault. WTF are you guys drinking after reading all that?


I misread it again and deleted it. Fuck off shitposter.
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GreatEvilEmpire
10/23/17 1:38:24 PM
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Sakuyakun posted...
Some posters here is saying now it's sexual assault. WTF are you guys drinking after reading all that?


Like I said in the past, some people have a manhunt mindset. There is some irrational hatred going on and people don't want to admit it. Incels are happy to jump on the hate train because they hate men who are getting women and they're not.
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