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clearaflagrantj 10/21/17 4:06:27 PM #1:	They're wrong about everything Taxes Gays Minorities Women's Rights Gun Control Drugs Criminal Justice Defense Basic human decency Seriously it's like they ran down the checklist picking the worst option possible and they made a group out of it. <cite>clearaflagrantj posted [p:888864134] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote>They're wrong about everything Taxes Gays Minorities Women's Rights Gun Control Drugs Criminal Justice Defense Basic human decency Seriously it's like they ran down the checklist picking the worst option possible and they made a group out of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
josifrees 10/21/17 4:07:06 PM #2:	They live in the past --- Quit Crying <cite>josifrees posted [p:888864171] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote>They live in the past</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 10/21/17 4:09:47 PM #3:	Why did you run away? https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75899483 <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:888864269] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote>Why did you run away? https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75899483</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 10/21/17 4:10:35 PM #4:	In any case, if you are lumping people into a group that is so diametrically opposed to everything you believe...chances are that you're the brainwashed product of hyper-partisan media. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:888864307] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote>In any case, if you are lumping people into a group that is so diametrically opposed to everything you believe...chances are that you're the brainwashed product of hyper-partisan media.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_MacPhisto 10/21/17 4:10:42 PM #5:	Is this really how you want to spend your weekends? --- Off with the horns, On with the show! <cite>Mr_MacPhisto posted [p:888864311] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote>Is this really how you want to spend your weekends?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 10/21/17 4:11:06 PM #6:	Mr_MacPhisto posted... Is this really how you want to spend your weekends? Any second now he'll make a topic whining about money and needing to work. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:888864323] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_MacPhisto posted...</cite> <quote>Is this really how you want to spend your weekends?</quote> Any second now he'll make a topic whining about money and needing to work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VipaGTS 10/21/17 4:11:13 PM #7:	They still think its 1925 --- "I devour urine just like my Portland Trailblazers, with piss poor defense." <cite>VipaGTS posted [p:888864326] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote>They still think its 1925</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
clearaflagrantj 10/21/17 4:19:51 PM #8:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Why did you run away? https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75899483 These two are related. The costs of tax-funded healthcare would be astronomical because of the number of obese people in the country. It would flatline our healthcare system even worse than what's happening to the NHS in the UK. - Obesity is caused by our government's lax laws on sugar advertising to children, the manufactured fake ass grain heavy food pyramid that was literally designed by farmers to sell more wheat, shit health education in our schools, and poverty which is a byproduct of our shit economy/country. Obesity is rampant more so than other countries because our country uniquely sucks. Even if universal healthcare is not feasible, why are we paying way more than every other country for an inferior health care system that is tied to employment? Don't go picking at strawmans its pathetic. These two are related. People can't build wealth if they are wasting their money on car loans and mortgages. And if people sign up for massive student loans without majoring in something useful, that's going to be their problem. - Public schools should be free, allowing colleges to straddle our nation's youngest with 6% interest loans totaling tens of thousands of dollars will only do our economy a massive disservice years from now. It's a consolidation of wealth in the wrong hands. Other countries provide free college, we should to. Simple as that. The number of innocent people who die from mass shootings each year is astronomically low. Despite there being hundreds of millions of guns and tens of millions of firearm owners, we rarely ever see mass shootings. Don't let the media distort the data. Yet astronomically higher than other countries. You offer no counterargument here. I think I noticed that in your post tbqh. You complain about income inequality but also complain about people taking on car loans and mortgages they can't afford. As if it's the country's fault and not their fault. You complain about no universal healthcare even though you obviously haven't counted the cost of doing so for a nation of 40% obese people. Weak. Relevant how? Religious fanatics are holding this country back and keeping us divided. Stop pretending like it's fine, having laws passed by religious leaders to allow religion to invade our school and evade taxes is only hurting this country. Can't do the time? Don't do the crime. People wouldn't do the crime if we lived in a country that invested in those in need instead of making them repeat offenders in the prison system. It's simple, America is on its last legs, we are pushing the system we currently live in to its extreme and it's not sustainable, we are a nation full of lower class that pretends like it's middle class and we're being left in the dust by Scandinavian countries, and Russia and China. I give this country another 100 years before it's considered irrelevant by the developed world. America worked in the 50's when the rest of the world was blown up from WW2, but now that we're all on equal playing fields we are fucking done. <cite>clearaflagrantj posted [p:888864728] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Why did you run away? https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75899483</quote> These two are related. The costs of tax-funded healthcare would be astronomical because of the number of obese people in the country. It would flatline our healthcare system even worse than what's happening to the NHS in the UK. - Obesity is caused by our government's lax laws on sugar advertising to children, the manufactured fake ass grain heavy food pyramid that was literally designed by farmers to sell more wheat, shit health education in our schools, and poverty which is a byproduct of our shit economy/country. Obesity is rampant more so than other countries because our country uniquely sucks. Even if universal healthcare is not feasible, why are we paying way more than every other country for an inferior health care system that is tied to employment? Don't go picking at strawmans its pathetic. These two are related. People can't build wealth if they are wasting their money on car loans and mortgages. And if people sign up for massive student loans without majoring in something useful, that's going to be their problem. - Public schools should be free, allowing colleges to straddle our nation's youngest with 6% interest loans totaling tens of thousands of dollars will only do our economy a massive disservice years from now. It's a consolidation of wealth in the wrong hands. Other countries provide free college, we should to. Simple as that. The number of innocent people who die from mass shootings each year is astronomically low. Despite there being hundreds of millions of guns and tens of millions of firearm owners, we rarely ever see mass shootings. Don't let the media distort the data. Yet astronomically higher than other countries. You offer no counterargument here. I think I noticed that in your post tbqh. You complain about income inequality but also complain about people taking on car loans and mortgages they can't afford. As if it's the country's fault and not their fault. You complain about no universal healthcare even though you obviously haven't counted the cost of doing so for a nation of 40% obese people. Weak. Relevant how? Religious fanatics are holding this country back and keeping us divided. Stop pretending like it's fine, having laws passed by religious leaders to allow religion to invade our school and evade taxes is only hurting this country. Can't do the time? Don't do the crime. People wouldn't do the crime if we lived in a country that invested in those in need instead of making them repeat offenders in the prison system. It's simple, America is on its last legs, we are pushing the system we currently live in to its extreme and it's not sustainable, we are a nation full of lower class that pretends like it's middle class and we're being left in the dust by Scandinavian countries, and Russia and China. I give this country another 100 years before it's considered irrelevant by the developed world. America worked in the 50's when the rest of the world was blown up from WW2, but now that we're all on equal playing fields we are fucking done.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
clearaflagrantj 10/21/17 4:22:28 PM #9:	FLUFFYGERM posted... In any case, if you are lumping people into a group that is so diametrically opposed to everything you believe...chances are that you're the brainwashed product of hyper-partisan media. I'm not a democrat. Of course you're appealing to idea that to hate Republicans you must be part of the other team, don't drag me in the mud with you I don't enjoy it like you do. <cite>clearaflagrantj posted [p:888864849] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>In any case, if you are lumping people into a group that is so diametrically opposed to everything you believe...chances are that you're the brainwashed product of hyper-partisan media.</quote> I'm not a democrat. Of course you're appealing to idea that to hate Republicans you must be part of the other team, don't drag me in the mud with you I don't enjoy it like you do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 10/21/17 4:31:45 PM #10:	clearaflagrantj posted... - Obesity is caused by our government's lax laws on sugar advertising to children, the manufactured fake ass grain heavy food pyramid that was literally designed by farmers to sell more wheat, s* health education in our schools, and poverty which is a byproduct of our s* economy/country. Obesity is rampant more so than other countries because our country uniquely sucks. Even if universal healthcare is not feasible, why are we paying way more than every other country for an inferior health care system that is tied to employment? Don't go picking at strawmans its pathetic. Our healthcare system is the best on earth in terms of quality. Obesity is caused by people not being responsible with their caloric and sugar intakes. No one is forcing you to eat those donuts. clearaflagrantj posted... - Public schools should be free, allowing colleges to straddle our nation's youngest with 6% interest loans totaling tens of thousands of dollars will only do our economy a massive disservice years from now. It's a consolidation of wealth in the wrong hands. Other countries provide free college, we should to. Simple as that. Liberals wanted more college students so we started giving grants and loans based on financial status rather than merit. That didn't work and now you want "free" public education? That'd just raise costs even more. The solution is to stop expecting a degree for jobs that have no need for a degree. There is no such thing as "free" college. Those countries have higher tax rates because of it. clearaflagrantj posted... Yet astronomically higher than other countries. You offer no counterargument here. Crime by comparison is about the same in other civilized parts of the world, when you account for all the variables in question. Like population size, certain cities contributing more to the average, etc. Gun crime in America is actually very rare, certainly a lot rarer than people dying in car crashes. London for example has a very bad problem with fatal stabbings. Nearly 1800 people were fatally stabbed in a single year there. That's insanity and your argument against gun rights is uninformed and ignorant. clearaflagrantj posted... Religious fanatics are holding this country back and keeping us divided. Stop pretending like it's fine, having laws passed by religious leaders to allow religion to invade our school and evade taxes is only hurting this country. What laws allow religious leaders to allow religion invasion in schools? Religion is becoming less common in America. If anything there's more to fear from Marxists and communists who are advocating that we teach children all kinds of nonsense, for example that there are hundreds of different genders and that you can be whichever one you want whenever you want. clearaflagrantj posted... People wouldn't do the crime if we lived in a country that invested in those in need instead of making them repeat offenders in the prison system. This does not match reality. People will always commit crime. clearaflagrantj posted... It's simple, America is on its last legs, we are pushing the system we currently live in to its extreme and it's not sustainable, we are a nation full of lower class that pretends like it's middle class and we're being left in the dust by Scandinavian countries, and Russia and China. I give this country another 100 years before it's considered irrelevant by the developed world. America worked in the 50's when the rest of the world was blown up from WW2, but now that we're all on equal playing fields we are f*ing done. lmao <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:888865256] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote><cite>clearaflagrantj posted...</cite> <quote>- Obesity is caused by our government's lax laws on sugar advertising to children, the manufactured fake ass grain heavy food pyramid that was literally designed by farmers to sell more wheat, s* health education in our schools, and poverty which is a byproduct of our s* economy/country. Obesity is rampant more so than other countries because our country uniquely sucks. Even if universal healthcare is not feasible, why are we paying way more than every other country for an inferior health care system that is tied to employment? Don't go picking at strawmans its pathetic. </quote> Our healthcare system is the best on earth in terms of quality. Obesity is caused by people not being responsible with their caloric and sugar intakes. No one is forcing you to eat those donuts. <cite>clearaflagrantj posted...</cite> <quote>- Public schools should be free, allowing colleges to straddle our nation's youngest with 6% interest loans totaling tens of thousands of dollars will only do our economy a massive disservice years from now. It's a consolidation of wealth in the wrong hands. Other countries provide free college, we should to. Simple as that. </quote> Liberals wanted more college students so we started giving grants and loans based on financial status rather than merit. That didn't work and now you want "free" public education? That'd just raise costs even more. The solution is to stop expecting a degree for jobs that have no need for a degree. There is no such thing as "free" college. Those countries have higher tax rates because of it. <cite>clearaflagrantj posted...</cite> <quote>Yet astronomically higher than other countries. You offer no counterargument here. </quote> Crime by comparison is about the same in other civilized parts of the world, when you account for all the variables in question. Like population size, certain cities contributing more to the average, etc. Gun crime in America is actually very rare, certainly a lot rarer than people dying in car crashes. London for example has a very bad problem with fatal stabbings. Nearly 1800 people were fatally stabbed in a single year there. That's insanity and your argument against gun rights is uninformed and ignorant. <cite>clearaflagrantj posted...</cite> <quote>Religious fanatics are holding this country back and keeping us divided. Stop pretending like it's fine, having laws passed by religious leaders to allow religion to invade our school and evade taxes is only hurting this country. </quote> What laws allow religious leaders to allow religion invasion in schools? Religion is becoming less common in America. If anything there's more to fear from Marxists and communists who are advocating that we teach children all kinds of nonsense, for example that there are hundreds of different genders and that you can be whichever one you want whenever you want. <cite>clearaflagrantj posted...</cite> <quote>People wouldn't do the crime if we lived in a country that invested in those in need instead of making them repeat offenders in the prison system. </quote> This does not match reality. People will always commit crime. <cite>clearaflagrantj posted...</cite> <quote>It's simple, America is on its last legs, we are pushing the system we currently live in to its extreme and it's not sustainable, we are a nation full of lower class that pretends like it's middle class and we're being left in the dust by Scandinavian countries, and Russia and China. I give this country another 100 years before it's considered irrelevant by the developed world. America worked in the 50's when the rest of the world was blown up from WW2, but now that we're all on equal playing fields we are f*ing done.</quote> lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 10/21/17 4:32:15 PM #11:	Anyway, you need to seek some counseling and anger therapy. You are living under some severe delusions, especially regarding your paranoia about how America is going to collapse. If it ever collapses, it'll be because of people like you. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:888865281] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote>Anyway, you need to seek some counseling and anger therapy. You are living under some severe delusions, especially regarding your paranoia about how America is going to collapse. If it ever collapses, it'll be because of people like you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
clearaflagrantj 10/21/17 4:43:06 PM #12:	I like your halfassed rebuke filled with unsubstantiated claims. God the caliber of you conservative trolls has really fallen off. <cite>clearaflagrantj posted [p:888865824] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote>I like your halfassed rebuke filled with unsubstantiated claims. God the caliber of you conservative trolls has really fallen off.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 10/21/17 4:43:20 PM #13:	Because reality has a liberal bias and conservatives hate everything liberal and so also hate reality, and when you hate reality you can't really be correct --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:888865838] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote>Because reality has a liberal bias and conservatives hate everything liberal and so also hate reality, and when you hate reality you can't really be correct</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 10/21/17 4:44:05 PM #14:	clearaflagrantj posted... I like your halfassed rebuke filled with unsubstantiated claims. God the caliber of you conservative trolls has really fallen off. That's actually not even trolling, he's probably being completely serious That's how bad the Republican Party has gotten --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:888865882] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote><cite>clearaflagrantj posted...</cite> <quote>I like your halfassed rebuke filled with unsubstantiated claims. God the caliber of you conservative trolls has really fallen off.</quote> That's actually not even trolling, he's probably being completely serious That's how bad the Republican Party has gotten</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gatorsPENSbucs 10/21/17 4:50:51 PM #15:	Why do democrats spend every moment of every day obsessing over republicans? Seems like an awful life. --- http://m.imgur.com/BtD5etN?r https://m.imgur.com/a/jclul http://i.imgtc.com/etNW2apANm.jpg <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted [p:888866197] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote>Why do democrats spend every moment of every day obsessing over republicans? Seems like an awful life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 10/21/17 4:51:40 PM #16:	gatorsPENSbucs posted... Why do democrats spend every moment of every day obsessing over republicans? Seems like an awful life. Pot, kettle, etc At least try --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:888866225] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote><cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote>Why do democrats spend every moment of every day obsessing over republicans? Seems like an awful life.</quote> Pot, kettle, etc At least try</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 10/21/17 5:02:01 PM #17:	clearaflagrantj posted... I like your halfassed rebuke filled with unsubstantiated claims. God the caliber of you conservative trolls has really fallen off. Are you completely blind to your first post? What a joke. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:888866664] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote><cite>clearaflagrantj posted...</cite> <quote>I like your halfassed rebuke filled with unsubstantiated claims. God the caliber of you conservative trolls has really fallen off.</quote> Are you completely blind to your first post? What a joke.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PowerMang 10/21/17 5:09:54 PM #20:	I have no problem with Republicans unless they still support Trump and the current mainstream GOP. They tried to repeal and replace Obamacare 3 times(and failed). The 2nd time they just wanted to repeal Obamacare without the 'replace' part'. Millions of people lose HC coverage, tax cuts for the wealthy and the pre-existing condition issue, who knows? These are facts and I don't understand why anyone would be okay with that. Also, they overwhelmingly voted for letting ISPs to continue selling your info to corporations. Trump signed it. Did we already forget about this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxl6L3b3X6U --- Not changing sig until I decide to change my sig Started: 01-08-11 <cite>PowerMang posted [p:888867033] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote>I have no problem with Republicans unless they still support Trump and the current mainstream GOP. They tried to repeal and replace Obamacare 3 times(and failed). The 2nd time they just wanted to repeal Obamacare without the 'replace' part'. Millions of people lose HC coverage, tax cuts for the wealthy and the pre-existing condition issue, who knows? These are facts and I don't understand why anyone would be okay with that. Also, they overwhelmingly voted for letting ISPs to continue selling your info to corporations. Trump signed it. Did we already forget about this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxl6L3b3X6U</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 10/21/17 5:14:45 PM #21:	Godnorgosh posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Our healthcare system is the best on earth in terms of quality. Strictly in terms of quality of care, maybe, but in terms of accessibility and affordability it's extremely poor. If you don't have any money and if you have no health insurance, sure. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:888867219] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Our healthcare system is the best on earth in terms of quality.</quote> Strictly in terms of quality of care, maybe, but in terms of accessibility and affordability it's extremely poor.</quote> If you don't have any money and if you have no health insurance, sure.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 10/21/17 6:46:42 PM #23:	Godnorgosh posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Godnorgosh posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Our healthcare system is the best on earth in terms of quality. Strictly in terms of quality of care, maybe, but in terms of accessibility and affordability it's extremely poor. If you don't have any money and if you have no health insurance, sure. Hey, guess what a lot of people don't have. Wouldn't ya know? Stop financing cars, useless degrees, and expensive homes. Stop having kids you can't afford. Focus on having a strong nuclear family that sticks together, rather than broken single-parent homes. Then maybe people will have more money and more stable careers with insurance from employment. And cut back on the donuts so that America isn't 40% obese anymore. Then our healthcare costs will go down a lot. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:888871760] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Our healthcare system is the best on earth in terms of quality.</quote> Strictly in terms of quality of care, maybe, but in terms of accessibility and affordability it's extremely poor.</quote> If you don't have any money and if you have no health insurance, sure.</quote> Hey, guess what a lot of people don't have. Wouldn't ya know?</quote> Stop financing cars, useless degrees, and expensive homes. Stop having kids you can't afford. Focus on having a strong nuclear family that sticks together, rather than broken single-parent homes. Then maybe people will have more money and more stable careers with insurance from employment. And cut back on the donuts so that America isn't 40% obese anymore. Then our healthcare costs will go down a lot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 10/21/17 8:34:48 PM #25:	Godnorgosh posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Stop financing cars, useless degrees, and expensive homes. Stop having kids you can't afford. Focus on having a strong nuclear family that sticks together, rather than broken single-parent homes. Then maybe people will have more money and more stable careers with insurance from employment. Yeah, everyone can just major in STEM and there will be careers waiting for them. Temp jobs, janitors, dishwashers, line cooks, etc. etc. will just magically disappear. Don't make bad decisions, especially if you're going to do a minimum wage job. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:888877336] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Stop financing cars, useless degrees, and expensive homes. Stop having kids you can't afford. Focus on having a strong nuclear family that sticks together, rather than broken single-parent homes. Then maybe people will have more money and more stable careers with insurance from employment. </quote> Yeah, everyone can just major in STEM and there will be careers waiting for them. Temp jobs, janitors, dishwashers, line cooks, etc. etc. will just magically disappear.</quote> Don't make bad decisions, especially if you're going to do a minimum wage job.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrPeppers 10/21/17 8:35:56 PM #26:	Are you ever happy, TC? --- http://i.imgur.com/SGkkbF0.png <cite>MrPeppers posted [p:888877397] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote>Are you ever happy, TC?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 10/21/17 8:37:23 PM #27:	clearaflagrantj posted... Why are republicans always wrong. clearaflagrantj posted... - Obesity is caused by our government's lax laws on sugar advertising to children, The delusion is real. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:888877472] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote><cite>clearaflagrantj posted...</cite> <quote>Why are republicans always wrong.</quote> <cite>clearaflagrantj posted...</cite> <quote>- Obesity is caused by our government's lax laws on sugar advertising to children, </quote> The delusion is real.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glass_Phantom 10/21/17 9:01:27 PM #28:	To answer the op, it's a preoccupation with the welfare of the individual (the self) over the welfare of other people... Which many of us perceive as selfishness. Republicanism is the ideology that says, "What's mine is mine, and outside of what charity I may show to my family and my church, I don't care about anyone else; keep your hands off, and don't take what's mine." Despite the fact that many Republicans are Christians, it's an ideology that runs contra to everything Jesus taught... which is why I'm not one. (I'm a left-wing evangelical Christian.) <cite>Glass_Phantom posted [p:888878708] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote>To answer the op, it's a preoccupation with the welfare of the individual (the self) over the welfare of other people... Which many of us perceive as selfishness. Republicanism is the ideology that says, "What's mine is mine, and outside of what charity I may show to my family and my church, I don't care about anyone else; keep your hands off, and don't take what's mine." Despite the fact that many Republicans are Christians, it's an ideology that runs contra to everything Jesus taught... which is why I'm not one. (I'm a left-wing evangelical Christian.)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 10/21/17 9:02:28 PM #29:	Glass_Phantom posted... To answer the op, it's a preoccupation with the welfare of the individual (the self) over the welfare of other people... Incorrect. It's a realization that individualism is what allows for the greatest well-being of the greatest number of people. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:888878760] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote><cite>Glass_Phantom posted...</cite> <quote>To answer the op, it's a preoccupation with the welfare of the individual (the self) over the welfare of other people... </quote> Incorrect. It's a realization that individualism is what allows for the greatest well-being of the greatest number of people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 10/21/17 9:04:36 PM #30:	VipaGTS posted... They still think its 1925 They want it to be --- http://i.imgur.com/fQ2zSjD.gif https://i.imgur.com/rUkYNB9.jpg https://i.imgur.com/wDVZCkd.gif https://i.imgur.com/VX0lMwY.jpg <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:888878870] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote><cite>VipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>They still think its 1925</quote> They want it to be</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Glass_Phantom 10/21/17 9:09:44 PM #32:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Glass_Phantom posted... To answer the op, it's a preoccupation with the welfare of the individual (the self) over the welfare of other people... Incorrect. It's a realization that individualism is what allows for the greatest well-being of the greatest number of people. You say individualism, I say selfishness. And deference to the tyranny of large corporations. <cite>Glass_Phantom posted [p:888879139] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Glass_Phantom posted...</cite> <quote>To answer the op, it's a preoccupation with the welfare of the individual (the self) over the welfare of other people... </quote> Incorrect. It's a realization that individualism is what allows for the greatest well-being of the greatest number of people.</quote> You say individualism, I say selfishness. And deference to the tyranny of large corporations.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 10/21/17 9:10:07 PM #33:	Godnorgosh posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Godnorgosh posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Stop financing cars, useless degrees, and expensive homes. Stop having kids you can't afford. Focus on having a strong nuclear family that sticks together, rather than broken single-parent homes. Then maybe people will have more money and more stable careers with insurance from employment. Yeah, everyone can just major in STEM and there will be careers waiting for them. Temp jobs, janitors, dishwashers, line cooks, etc. etc. will just magically disappear. Don't make bad decisions, especially if you're going to do a minimum wage job. Yeah, bad decisions like getting sick or having an accident. Why do you people reach for the most extreme and tragic examples, but never give any lip service to the numerous examples of people making bad decisions? Bad decisions that lead to a useless degree, obesity, reproducing with the wrong person, etc. Having a one track mind and always blaming the rare and unexpected tragedies that befall some people is incredibly dishonest, considering you're pretty much ignoring the much more common scenarios. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:888879158] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Stop financing cars, useless degrees, and expensive homes. Stop having kids you can't afford. Focus on having a strong nuclear family that sticks together, rather than broken single-parent homes. Then maybe people will have more money and more stable careers with insurance from employment. </quote> Yeah, everyone can just major in STEM and there will be careers waiting for them. Temp jobs, janitors, dishwashers, line cooks, etc. etc. will just magically disappear.</quote> Don't make bad decisions, especially if you're going to do a minimum wage job.</quote> Yeah, bad decisions like getting sick or having an accident.</quote> Why do you people reach for the most extreme and tragic examples, but never give any lip service to the numerous examples of people making bad decisions? Bad decisions that lead to a useless degree, obesity, reproducing with the wrong person, etc. Having a one track mind and always blaming the rare and unexpected tragedies that befall some people is incredibly dishonest, considering you're pretty much ignoring the much more common scenarios.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 10/21/17 9:11:04 PM #34:	Glass_Phantom posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Glass_Phantom posted... To answer the op, it's a preoccupation with the welfare of the individual (the self) over the welfare of other people... Incorrect. It's a realization that individualism is what allows for the greatest well-being of the greatest number of people. You say individualism, I say selfishness. And deference to the tyranny of large corporations. Retrofit your definition so that you don't paint people as selfish just because they don't want to buy into your politics. That's ignorant and not productive at all. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:888879214] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote><cite>Glass_Phantom posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Glass_Phantom posted...</cite> <quote>To answer the op, it's a preoccupation with the welfare of the individual (the self) over the welfare of other people... </quote> Incorrect. It's a realization that individualism is what allows for the greatest well-being of the greatest number of people.</quote> You say individualism, I say selfishness. And deference to the tyranny of large corporations.</quote> Retrofit your definition so that you don't paint people as selfish just because they don't want to buy into your politics. That's ignorant and not productive at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 10/21/17 9:17:30 PM #36:	-Gavirulax- posted... Glass_Phantom posted... Republicanism is the ideology that says, "What's mine is mine, and outside of what charity I may show to my family and my church, I don't care about anyone else; keep your hands off, and don't take what's mine." On paper, there is nothing wrong with that. I don't personally follow it, but outside of my own family and close friends (I wouldn't say any religion) there is very little value in me caring about anyone else outside of mindless virtue signalling. That isn't saying go out and be a dick over tragedies and shit, but wanting to keep my own families success inside my own family (don't take what's mine) isn't something to be looked down on nor should be considered Republican (and be extension, right wing which is the obvious implication in the modern age). Exactly. But the left's expectation is that you live your life for someone else, and you get bonus virtue points if you're doing it for someone who isn't a loved one. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:888879492] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote><cite>-Gavirulax- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Glass_Phantom posted...</cite> <quote>Republicanism is the ideology that says, "What's mine is mine, and outside of what charity I may show to my family and my church, I don't care about anyone else; keep your hands off, and don't take what's mine."</quote> On paper, there is nothing wrong with that. I don't personally follow it, but outside of my own family and close friends (I wouldn't say any religion) there is very little value in me caring about anyone else outside of mindless virtue signalling. That isn't saying go out and be a dick over tragedies and shit, but wanting to keep my own families success inside my own family (don't take what's mine) isn't something to be looked down on nor should be considered Republican (and be extension, right wing which is the obvious implication in the modern age).</quote> Exactly. But the left's expectation is that you live your life for someone else, and you get bonus virtue points if you're doing it for someone who isn't a loved one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glass_Phantom 10/21/17 9:23:07 PM #37:	FLUFFYGERM posted... That's ignorant and not productive at all. It's immoral by the laws of the God I believe in. Right is right and wrong is wrong. I don't believe conservatism reflects the values of generosity, brotherhood, and compassion that I believe are necessary to living a virtuous life... It's an insular, selfish ideology. <cite>Glass_Phantom posted [p:888879822] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>That's ignorant and not productive at all.</quote> It's immoral by the laws of the God I believe in. Right is right and wrong is wrong. I don't believe conservatism reflects the values of generosity, brotherhood, and compassion that I believe are necessary to living a virtuous life... It's an insular, selfish ideology.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 10/21/17 9:25:20 PM #38:	Glass_Phantom posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... That's ignorant and not productive at all. It's immoral by the laws of the God I believe in. Right is right and wrong is wrong. I don't believe conservatism reflects the values of generosity, brotherhood, and compassion that I believe are necessary to living a virtuous life... It's an insular, selfish ideology. Fuck your religion and all other religions, buddy. Ain't no God, and your little circular reasoning doesn't prove anything LOL!!! Your values are your own. Expecting other people to live by them (or else get painted selfish) is in itself selfish. It's close minded and insular. What you believe has no place in this conversation, because it's about realizing that other people live by their own values. Imposing your values on them, unless they're trying to rape and murder, is obscene. Do you understand, priest? <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:888879946] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote><cite>Glass_Phantom posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>That's ignorant and not productive at all.</quote> It's immoral by the laws of the God I believe in. Right is right and wrong is wrong. I don't believe conservatism reflects the values of generosity, brotherhood, and compassion that I believe are necessary to living a virtuous life... It's an insular, selfish ideology.</quote> Fuck your religion and all other religions, buddy. Ain't no God, and your little circular reasoning doesn't prove anything LOL!!! Your values are your own. Expecting other people to live by them (or else get painted selfish) is in itself selfish. It's close minded and insular. What you believe has no place in this conversation, because it's about realizing that other people live by their own values. Imposing your values on them, unless they're trying to rape and murder, is obscene. Do you understand, priest?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Glass_Phantom 10/21/17 9:31:05 PM #40:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Your values are your own. Expecting other people to live by them (or else get painted selfish) is in itself selfish. It's close minded and insular. What you believe has no place in this conversation, because it's about realizing that other people live by their own values. Imposing your values on them, unless they're trying to rape and murder, is obscene. A perfect example. ;) This kind of insular, reactionary, hot-blooded anger is also a flaw of (modern) conservatism, and it's also wrong... Conservatism is the ideology that says, "You believe in a different religion than I do. Therefore, I am disrespectful of you; fearful of you; I believe you to be inferior." That comes across loud and clear in your red-hot reaction to my faith, and you calling me "priest." It may piss you off, but may I pray for you? If you're an atheist, it shouldn't matter, right? I would like to ask God to give you happiness and wisdom, and to lift the venom that has lease over your heart... If it's okay with you. <cite>Glass_Phantom posted [p:888880247] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Your values are your own. Expecting other people to live by them (or else get painted selfish) is in itself selfish. It's close minded and insular. What you believe has no place in this conversation, because it's about realizing that other people live by their own values. Imposing your values on them, unless they're trying to rape and murder, is obscene.</quote> A perfect example. ;) This kind of insular, reactionary, hot-blooded anger is also a flaw of (modern) conservatism, and it's also wrong... Conservatism is the ideology that says, "You believe in a different religion than I do. Therefore, I am disrespectful of you; fearful of you; I believe you to be inferior." That comes across loud and clear in your red-hot reaction to my faith, and you calling me "priest." It may piss you off, but may I pray for you? If you're an atheist, it shouldn't matter, right? I would like to ask God to give you happiness and wisdom, and to lift the venom that has lease over your heart... If it's okay with you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Offworlder1 10/21/17 9:33:53 PM #41:	Better to be a republican then a liberal now a days. --- "Always two there are, a master and an apprentice" <cite>Offworlder1 posted [p:888880385] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote>Better to be a republican then a liberal now a days.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 10/21/17 9:34:13 PM #42:	damn this dude is a shitty gimmick --- A thousand eyes, and one. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:888880401] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote>damn this dude is a shitty gimmick</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 10/21/17 9:34:48 PM #43:	Glass_Phantom posted... A perfect example. ;) This kind of insular, reactionary, hot-blooded anger is also a flaw of (modern) conservatism, and it's also wrong... Conservatism is the ideology that says, "You believe in a different religion than I do. Therefore, I am disrespectful of you; fearful of you; I believe you to be inferior." That comes across loud and clear in your red-hot reaction to my faith, and you calling me "priest." You are inferior because you believe in a flying man in space who judges people for masturbating. And also because you expect other people to believe in that with you, or else you consider them bad people. Glass_Phantom posted... It may piss you off, but may I pray for you? If you're an atheist, it shouldn't matter, right? I would like to ask God to give you happiness and wisdom, and to lift the venom that has lease over your heart... If it's okay with you. This is happiness: To live your life how you want, growing and learning and being with those you love while they grow and learn. This is wisdom: Not leaving everything up to some unsubstantiated belief in magic and gods, and not demanding others to do the same You can pray for whatever you want, but I'm already happy and wise (at least in comparison with people who go to Sky Daddy whenever they have a problem) and eager to grow happier and wiser every day. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:888880436] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote><cite>Glass_Phantom posted...</cite> <quote>A perfect example. ;) This kind of insular, reactionary, hot-blooded anger is also a flaw of (modern) conservatism, and it's also wrong... Conservatism is the ideology that says, "You believe in a different religion than I do. Therefore, I am disrespectful of you; fearful of you; I believe you to be inferior." That comes across loud and clear in your red-hot reaction to my faith, and you calling me "priest." </quote> You are inferior because you believe in a flying man in space who judges people for masturbating. And also because you expect other people to believe in that with you, or else you consider them bad people. <cite>Glass_Phantom posted...</cite> <quote>It may piss you off, but may I pray for you? If you're an atheist, it shouldn't matter, right? I would like to ask God to give you happiness and wisdom, and to lift the venom that has lease over your heart... If it's okay with you. </quote> This is happiness: To live your life how you want, growing and learning and being with those you love while they grow and learn. This is wisdom: Not leaving everything up to some unsubstantiated belief in magic and gods, and not demanding others to do the same You can pray for whatever you want, but I'm already happy and wise (at least in comparison with people who go to Sky Daddy whenever they have a problem) and eager to grow happier and wiser every day.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 10/21/17 9:38:12 PM #46:	Godnorgosh posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Godnorgosh posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Godnorgosh posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Stop financing cars, useless degrees, and expensive homes. Stop having kids you can't afford. Focus on having a strong nuclear family that sticks together, rather than broken single-parent homes. Then maybe people will have more money and more stable careers with insurance from employment. Yeah, everyone can just major in STEM and there will be careers waiting for them. Temp jobs, janitors, dishwashers, line cooks, etc. etc. will just magically disappear. Don't make bad decisions, especially if you're going to do a minimum wage job. Yeah, bad decisions like getting sick or having an accident. Why do you people reach for the most extreme and tragic examples, but never give any lip service to the numerous examples of people making bad decisions? Bad decisions that lead to a useless degree, obesity, reproducing with the wrong person, etc. Having a one track mind and always blaming the rare and unexpected tragedies that befall some people is incredibly dishonest, considering you're pretty much ignoring the much more common scenarios. Uh-huh, illness and accidents sure are uncommon. I was really reaching there. How much do you think obesity, having kids too soon, majoring in useless shit, being lazy and irresponsible, etc, affect someone's future? <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:888880593] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Stop financing cars, useless degrees, and expensive homes. Stop having kids you can't afford. Focus on having a strong nuclear family that sticks together, rather than broken single-parent homes. Then maybe people will have more money and more stable careers with insurance from employment. </quote> Yeah, everyone can just major in STEM and there will be careers waiting for them. Temp jobs, janitors, dishwashers, line cooks, etc. etc. will just magically disappear.</quote> Don't make bad decisions, especially if you're going to do a minimum wage job.</quote> Yeah, bad decisions like getting sick or having an accident.</quote> Why do you people reach for the most extreme and tragic examples, but never give any lip service to the numerous examples of people making bad decisions? Bad decisions that lead to a useless degree, obesity, reproducing with the wrong person, etc. Having a one track mind and always blaming the rare and unexpected tragedies that befall some people is incredibly dishonest, considering you're pretty much ignoring the much more common scenarios.</quote> Uh-huh, illness and accidents sure are uncommon. I was really reaching there.</quote> How much do you think obesity, having kids too soon, majoring in useless shit, being lazy and irresponsible, etc, affect someone's future?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 10/21/17 9:39:22 PM #47:	-Gavirulax- posted... I'm not big on the whole aggressive atheist "reject everything religion does" (even the good) either, I might add. Someone wants to offer you prayers, I would strongly suggest taking the Hitch approach to it, it's certainly not going to make you any less atheist lol. I don't mind prayers at all, and I can even appreciate the sentiment depending on who is offering them. But in the case of the Priest here, it's just haughtiness and self righteousness more than goodness in his heart. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:888880653] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote><cite>-Gavirulax- posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not big on the whole aggressive atheist "reject everything religion does" (even the good) either, I might add. Someone wants to offer you prayers, I would strongly suggest taking the Hitch approach to it, it's certainly not going to make you any less atheist lol.</quote> I don't mind prayers at all, and I can even appreciate the sentiment depending on who is offering them. But in the case of the Priest here, it's just haughtiness and self righteousness more than goodness in his heart.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Glass_Phantom 10/21/17 9:43:57 PM #49:	FLUFFYGERM posted... You are inferior because you believe in a flying man in space who judges people for masturbating. And also because you expect other people to believe in that with you, or else you consider them bad people. Oh no, I don't believe that at all. I believe in God, but I don't believe people are any less good for being atheists, or Buddhists, or Shintos, or Muslims, or Jews... I don't think God cares about that at all. That's evangelical conservative thinking. ;) And I don't think God cares about you masturbating either, lol. FLUFFYGERM posted... This is happiness: To live your life how you want, growing and learning and being with those you love while they grow and learn. That may be happyness for you, yes. But happyness and selfishness are not mutually exclusive... There are many atheists on this forum who have no belief in God, yet they believe in living for others. In brotherhood between men, and compassion and generosity for the less fortunate. That's all that's necessary for them to have my respect... But everyone, even you, has my love. And God's love, too! Whether or not you believe in Him, He believes in you. <3 I hope you'll let go of your animosity towards religion... You may say you're happy, but living life with such hatred in your heart for others (including but not limited to people like me, who are religious) isn't the path to real happyness... If you let it, it will rot you from the inside-out and make you very vindictive -- which you may already be. I will pray for you since you said you don't mind. I hope you will find the peace to let go of that hate and anger. <cite>Glass_Phantom posted [p:888880900] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>You are inferior because you believe in a flying man in space who judges people for masturbating. And also because you expect other people to believe in that with you, or else you consider them bad people.</quote> Oh no, I don't believe that at all. I believe in God, but I don't believe people are any less good for being atheists, or Buddhists, or Shintos, or Muslims, or Jews... I don't think God cares about that at all. That's evangelical conservative thinking. ;) And I don't think God cares about you masturbating either, lol. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>This is happiness: To live your life how you want, growing and learning and being with those you love while they grow and learn.</quote> That may be happyness for you, yes. But happyness and selfishness are not mutually exclusive... There are many atheists on this forum who have no belief in God, yet they believe in living for others. In brotherhood between men, and compassion and generosity for the less fortunate. That's all that's necessary for them to have my respect... But everyone, even you, has my love. And God's love, too! Whether or not you believe in Him, He believes in you. <3 I hope you'll let go of your animosity towards religion... You may say you're happy, but living life with such hatred in your heart for others (including but not limited to people like me, who are religious) isn't the path to real happyness... If you let it, it will rot you from the inside-out and make you very vindictive -- which you may already be. I will pray for you since you said you don't mind. I hope you will find the peace to let go of that hate and anger.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 10/21/17 9:46:08 PM #50:	Glass_Phantom posted... Oh no, I don't believe that at all. I believe in God, but I don't believe people are any less good for being atheists, or Buddhists, or Shintos, or Muslims, or Jews... I don't think God cares about that at all. That's evangelical conservative thinking. ;) And I don't think God cares about you masturbating either, lol. your god isn't real buddy Glass_Phantom posted... That may be happyness for you, yes. But happyness and selfishness are not mutually exclusive... There are many atheists on this forum who have no belief in God, yet they believe in living for others. In brotherhood between men, and compassion and generosity for the less fortunate. That's all that's necessary for them to have my respect... But everyone, even you, has my love. And God's love, too! Whether or not you believe in Him, He believes in you. <3 I hope you'll let go of your animosity towards religion... You may say you're happy, but living life with such hatred in your heart for others (including but not limited to people like me, who are religious) isn't the path to real happyness... If you let it, it will rot you from the inside-out and make you very vindictive -- which you may already be. I will pray for you since you said you don't mind. I hope you will find the peace to let go of that hate and anger. Family and friends first. Individualism is key to happiness and well-being in society. Anyone advocating that you give up your life for the collective is an evil person. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:888881024] in Why are re... [t:75904277]...</cite> <quote><cite>Glass_Phantom posted...</cite> <quote>Oh no, I don't believe that at all. I believe in God, but I don't believe people are any less good for being atheists, or Buddhists, or Shintos, or Muslims, or Jews... I don't think God cares about that at all. That's evangelical conservative thinking. ;) And I don't think God cares about you masturbating either, lol. </quote> your god isn't real buddy <cite>Glass_Phantom posted...</cite> <quote>That may be happyness for you, yes. But happyness and selfishness are not mutually exclusive... There are many atheists on this forum who have no belief in God, yet they believe in living for others. In brotherhood between men, and compassion and generosity for the less fortunate. That's all that's necessary for them to have my respect... But everyone, even you, has my love. And God's love, too! Whether or not you believe in Him, He believes in you. <3 I hope you'll let go of your animosity towards religion... You may say you're happy, but living life with such hatred in your heart for others (including but not limited to people like me, who are religious) isn't the path to real happyness... If you let it, it will rot you from the inside-out and make you very vindictive -- which you may already be. I will pray for you since you said you don't mind. I hope you will find the peace to let go of that hate and anger.</quote> Family and friends first. Individualism is key to happiness and well-being in society. Anyone advocating that you give up your life for the collective is an evil person.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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