Current Events > Fun Fact: Mormons believe that black people are all cursed.

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CiIantro
10/21/17 12:37:23 AM
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They believe that black people are descended from a guy who killed one of god's favorite disciples. As punishment for his sin, god turned his and all his descendant's skin black so that the world would know of his atrocity. Because of this, black people are viewed as unclean and were banned from holding leadership positions in the church until long after the rest of the country had integrated. The official church position was that god eventually changed his mind and let them have leadership roles, but the prevailing consensus was that they did it for political/image reasons. Needless to say, there is a reason you never see black mormons.

BONUS FACT: Brigham Young was known to be an extreme racist. He went on the record multiple times condemning interracial marriage and stating that those involved in mixed-race relationships should be put to death. (Pretty reminiscent of their current position on gay marriage, but more explicit)
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s0nicfan
10/21/17 12:40:45 AM
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It's their religion and we should respect their beliefs, right?
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CiIantro
10/21/17 12:42:26 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
It's their religion and we should respect their beliefs, right?


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APM
10/21/17 12:45:05 AM
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What's your thoughts on Islam?
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boxington
10/21/17 12:47:15 AM
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is it ironic that people's faiths make me lose faith in people?
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CiIantro
10/21/17 12:47:19 AM
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APM posted...
What's your thoughts on Islam?


Repressive and twisted (like 95% of organized religions). This topic is about Mormonism's evils though. We can do Islam another time.
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CensorErik
10/21/17 12:47:36 AM
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I, personally, know several black Mormons in Massachusetts.
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CiIantro
10/21/17 12:48:55 AM
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CensorErik posted...
I, personally, know several black Mormons in Massachusetts.

I feel bad for them. The only people who have it worse are the gay mormons. Being gay and mormon is like being in an abusive relationship and refusing to leave. Sad, but ultimately the result of your own stupidity.
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CensorErik
10/21/17 12:53:19 AM
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CiIantro posted...
CensorErik posted...
I, personally, know several black Mormons in Massachusetts.

I feel bad for them. The only people who have it worse are the gay mormons. Being gay and mormon is like being in an abusive relationship and refusing to leave. Sad, but ultimately the result of your own stupidity.

I know one, maybe two, gay Mormons as well.
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CiIantro
10/21/17 12:53:58 AM
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CensorErik posted...
CiIantro posted...
CensorErik posted...
I, personally, know several black Mormons in Massachusetts.

I feel bad for them. The only people who have it worse are the gay mormons. Being gay and mormon is like being in an abusive relationship and refusing to leave. Sad, but ultimately the result of your own stupidity.

I know one, maybe two, gay Mormons as well.


They are lucky they werent born 20 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFLGJyXG-UQ
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CiIantro
10/21/17 12:55:26 AM
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Mormon girl, 12, has mic cut as she comes out as gay to congregation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_0nhyP6dU4
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CarlGrimes
10/21/17 12:58:50 AM
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CiIantro posted...
We can do Islam another time.

Actually we can't. If you bring any criticism about islam they will drop the ban hammer.
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CensorErik
10/21/17 1:02:04 AM
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One of the many things I don't like about religion is how they can treat people they supposedly aim to enlighten. It's awful. I understand wanting to be spiritual and believe in things, even though I'm incapable, but if it's at the cost of treating other humans badly, well, I just can't get down with that.
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CiIantro
10/21/17 1:03:37 AM
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CensorErik posted...
One of the many things I don't like about religion is how they can treat people they supposedly aim to enlighten. It's awful. I understand wanting to be spiritual and believe in things, even though I'm incapable, but if it's at the cost of treating other humans badly, well, I just can't get down with that.

Mormons are notorious for it. They preach about how they are all about love, then proceed to treat others like literal trash. Watch that vid where they cut the 12 year old girl's mic and told her to sit down, then they proceed to say how much god loves everyone. Vile hypocrisy.
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metralo
10/21/17 1:03:57 AM
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CarlGrimes posted...
CiIantro posted...
We can do Islam another time.

Actually we can't. If you bring any criticism about islam they will drop the ban hammer.


no they fucking dont

this board is rampant with Islamophobia, nothing is ever done
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glitteringfairy
10/21/17 1:09:38 AM
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Shit posting full steam tonight boys!

You condem Mormons and then the confederate flag and complain about racism And then make a topic bitching about hanging out with poor people because they can't keep up with your frivolous spending habits

I want to ask what kinda shitty lefty lib are you but then again it Makes alot of sense that your such a self serving arrogant virtue signaling liberal. I'm so torn!
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CensorErik
10/21/17 1:11:53 AM
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GF are you ok tonight? You seem upset.
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glitteringfairy
10/21/17 1:13:25 AM
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CensorErik posted...
GF are you ok tonight? You seem upset.

Cranky. Lack of sleep I think. Going to bed now though
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Samurontai
10/21/17 2:20:09 AM
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CarlGrimes posted...
CiIantro posted...
We can do Islam another time.

Actually we can't. If you bring any criticism about islam they will drop the ban hammer.


This is false

I've called Islam all sorts of shit and have only been modded like once
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Milkman5
10/21/17 2:21:47 AM
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This isn't even true. The mormon god still talks to them and he renounced all of this.
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Kislevic
10/21/17 2:26:13 AM
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Mromons also think wanking is bad, and they allow men to have 4 wives
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josifrees
10/21/17 2:28:22 AM
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Mormons change their doctrine so often it has no credibility
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CiIantro
10/21/17 2:34:22 AM
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josifrees posted...
Mormons change their doctrine so often it has no credibility

It was literally founded as a sex cult for Joseph Smith, so it doesnt have much credibility to begin with.
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CiIantro
10/22/17 3:37:21 AM
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bump
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Lorenzo_2003
10/22/17 4:04:51 AM
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CiIantro posted...
josifrees posted...
Mormons change their doctrine so often it has no credibility

It was literally founded as a sex cult for Joseph Smith, so it doesnt have much credibility to begin with.


I wonder if all cults eventually fall into that pattern of the cult leader banging all the women members. It seems that way, at least.
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LoneCourier2281
10/22/17 4:07:38 AM
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I mean this was their reasoning behind not allowing black members for the longest time and then allowing them but prohibiting them from leadership positions in the church.

The church, I'm not sure if they do anymore, at least publically, but for the longest time, yeah it was church doctrine.
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CiIantro
10/23/17 12:10:50 AM
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bump.
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lilORANG
10/23/17 12:15:52 AM
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CiIantro posted...
s0nicfan posted...
It's their religion and we should respect their beliefs, right?


xJaZSTz

lol, is that a real quote? That's great. I'm gonna start using that.
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Prestoff
10/23/17 12:16:07 AM
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I really wonder, how much of South Park on the Mormon religion is even true?
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Dash_Harber
10/23/17 12:18:51 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
It's their religion and we should respect their beliefs, right?


Basically, you have a right to be an idiotic asshole. I also have a right to say "I think what you are saying is wrong". You, in response, have the right to continue the discussion or walk away. That is how it works. Respecting doesn't mean agreeing, and it also doesn't mean ignoring when someone uses their 'rights' to remove someone else's rights. It just means that you are free to be an asshole and I'm free to call you on it.

I mean, why does this even keep coming up?
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mvillanueva88
10/23/17 12:21:12 AM
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Doesn't Christianity have a similar unofficial story on black skinned people? Something about one of Noah's sons seeing him naked so he turned black and all his descendants did too?
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Dash_Harber
10/23/17 12:23:33 AM
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mvillanueva88 posted...
Doesn't Christianity have a similar unofficial story on black skinned people? Something about one of Noah's sons seeing him naked so he turned black and all his descendants did too?


Yeah; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ham_(son_of_Noah)
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LoneCourier2281
10/23/17 12:32:18 AM
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Prestoff posted...
I really wonder, how much of South Park on the Mormon religion is even true?


A lot.
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CiIantro
10/23/17 12:33:10 AM
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Prestoff posted...
I really wonder, how much of South Park on the Mormon religion is even true?

All of it actually. The hilarious part is that south park gives you a more accurate representation of the religion than actual mormon missionaries will lol
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CocteauQuintplt
10/23/17 12:33:41 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
It's their religion and we should respect their beliefs, right?


Fuck no. Why does everybody think their stupid beliefs deserve respect, no matter how outlandish?
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CiIantro
10/23/17 12:33:57 AM
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lilORANG posted...
CiIantro posted...
s0nicfan posted...
It's their religion and we should respect their beliefs, right?


xJaZSTz

lol, is that a real quote? That's great. I'm gonna start using that.


yeah
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CocteauQuintplt
10/23/17 12:35:02 AM
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CensorErik posted...
I, personally, know several black Mormons in Massachusetts.


Almost as absurd as black people who wave the confederate flag
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CocteauQuintplt
10/23/17 12:36:05 AM
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CarlGrimes posted...
CiIantro posted...
We can do Islam another time.

Actually we can't. If you bring any criticism about islam they will drop the ban hammer.


..Here, the feral racist laments that his degenerative opinions are not tolerated..
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Lorenzo_2003
10/23/17 3:10:10 AM
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CocteauQuintplt posted...
CarlGrimes posted...
CiIantro posted...
We can do Islam another time.

Actually we can't. If you bring any criticism about islam they will drop the ban hammer.


..Here, the feral racist laments that his degenerative opinions are not tolerated..


Islam is not a race. Why do people keep getting that wrong?
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Giblet_Enjoyer
10/23/17 3:22:33 AM
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josifrees posted...
Mormons change their doctrine so often it has no credibility

Yeah that's the reason, lol
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LoneCourier2281
10/23/17 3:25:42 AM
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Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
josifrees posted...
Mormons change their doctrine so often it has no credibility

Yeah that's the reason, lol


Just curious as to what other doctrines they have changed frequently?
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Giblet_Enjoyer
10/23/17 3:26:15 AM
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Prestoff posted...
I really wonder, how much of South Park on the Mormon religion is even true?

I was raised mormon and I'm pretty sure all of it is, though I haven't seen that episode in a while.
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BB mofo
10/23/17 3:27:06 AM
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I feel I should post this old interview where Donnie and Marie Osmond discuss their views on blacks, women, and Mormonism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuSde2jGhm8

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Giblet_Enjoyer
10/23/17 3:28:38 AM
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LoneCourier2281 posted...
Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
josifrees posted...
Mormons change their doctrine so often it has no credibility

Yeah that's the reason, lol


Just curious as to what other doctrines they have changed frequently?

I don't know, I haven't kept up on that shit. I just know about that and the multiple wives thing.

Actually I do seem to remember hearing about their baptism for the dead policy changing recently. I think it was that they raised the limit or made it so that they can do people of other religions or something like that.
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LoneCourier2281
10/23/17 3:32:25 AM
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I suppose so, polygamy was changed such a long time ago though, also with all the other things to criticize the Mormon Church on, it's still interesting that people hold on to the era of polygamy.

I'll have to read about the Baptism for the Dead, because AFAIK, they've always been able to do it for other religions. Hell, like apparently all the dead U.S. Presidents have been baptized for.
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CiIantro
10/23/17 3:51:38 AM
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LoneCourier2281 posted...
I suppose so, polygamy was changed such a long time ago though, also with all the other things to criticize the Mormon Church on, it's still interesting that people hold on to the era of polygamy.

I'll have to read about the Baptism for the Dead, because AFAIK, they've always been able to do it for other religions. Hell, like apparently all the dead U.S. Presidents have been baptized for.

Jewish people hate them because they have "baptized" holocaust victims. "I know your grandparents endured torture and murder in the name of their religion, but WHOOPS, looks like they are Mormon now! Better luck next time!!"
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LoneCourier2281
10/23/17 3:54:58 AM
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Don't get me wrong, I think the whole baptisms for the dead is stupid and wrong.

If God really cared that much, well... I don't know, I'm not a religious scholar.

Baptisms for the Dead are something you can criticize the modern day church over though.
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Lonestar2000
10/23/17 3:56:32 AM
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All religion is terrible.
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RickyTheBAWSE
10/23/17 4:00:23 AM
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a couple Mormon Elders routinely visited my home back when I was a kid. I thought they were cool because they were adults who rode bikes passed where I was allowed to go on my own bike, lol.

they seemed cool, but I wasn't feeling any connection to that.
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LoneCourier2281
10/23/17 4:06:18 AM
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Even after leaving the church I still talk to missionaries whenever I see them.

Being away from your homes and families for two years sucks for sure, and many of them are good people that were force-fed all the bullshit the church spews.
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