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frozenshock 10/16/17 10:14:03 AM #1:	Like, say, 4 or 5 girls working in the same office hate some coworker for some reason, or they're just mean and want to ruin some guy's life. So they conspire to come out one after the other to accuse the same guy of raping them, and they fake the tears and all that. What can the guy do to defend himself? Assuming the girls conspired in secret and they didn't tell anyone other than each other of their plan to ruin the guy's life. --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:888531630] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote>Like, say, 4 or 5 girls working in the same office hate some coworker for some reason, or they're just mean and want to ruin some guy's life. So they conspire to come out one after the other to accuse the same guy of raping them, and they fake the tears and all that. What can the guy do to defend himself? Assuming the girls conspired in secret and they didn't tell anyone other than each other of their plan to ruin the guy's life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E32005 10/16/17 10:15:25 AM #2:	Its happened --- http://i.imgur.com/LAvnefi.gif http://i.imgur.com/6kW9fXL.gif <cite>E32005 posted [p:888531690] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote>Its happened</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Villain 10/16/17 10:16:07 AM #3:	E32005 posted... Its happened source? --- http://i.imgur.com/ZWNgMXL.jpg Formally known as Will VIIII <cite>Villain posted [p:888531714] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote><cite>E32005 posted...</cite> <quote>Its happened</quote> source?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 10/16/17 10:16:12 AM #4:	frozenshock posted... What can the guy do to defend himself? Nothing. --- The name is wackyteen* for a reason. Never doubt. *No longer teen <cite>wackyteen posted [p:888531722] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote> What can the guy do to defend himself?</quote> Nothing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 10/16/17 10:17:46 AM #5:	Other than the obvious have records of where he was and what he was doing at the accused times. --- The name is wackyteen* for a reason. Never doubt. *No longer teen <cite>wackyteen posted [p:888531797] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote>Other than the obvious have records of where he was and what he was doing at the accused times.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 10/16/17 10:19:52 AM #6:	wackyteen posted... frozenshock posted... What can the guy do to defend himself? Nothing. If he lawyers up then MAYBE he could prevent a jail sentence using their lack of evidence, or if he gets lucky they could subpoena their cell phone records to show evidence of collusion. In the time that will take, though, he'll be expelled if he's in school, smeared across national news, and effectively ruined for the rest of his life even if he avoids a sentence. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:888531881] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote> What can the guy do to defend himself?</quote> Nothing.</quote> If he lawyers up then MAYBE he could prevent a jail sentence using their lack of evidence, or if he gets lucky they could subpoena their cell phone records to show evidence of collusion. In the time that will take, though, he'll be expelled if he's in school, smeared across national news, and effectively ruined for the rest of his life even if he avoids a sentence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flasbangs 10/16/17 10:20:13 AM #7:	frozenshock posted... What can the guy do to defend himself? . Well, if he gets convicted with no evidence, he can always get the satisfaction of murdering the skanks in front of their families once he gets out. --- "That's the metaphorical equivalent of flopping your wedding tackle into a lion's mouth and flicking his love spuds with a wet towel" - Arnold Rimmer <cite>Flasbangs posted [p:888531905] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote> What can the guy do to defend himself? .</quote> Well, if he gets convicted with no evidence, he can always get the satisfaction of murdering the skanks in front of their families once he gets out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 10/16/17 10:21:38 AM #8:	What if a serial killer won the lottery and bought an apache helicopter on the black market and went on a killing rampage through new york? I feel like hypotheticals like this lack a point. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:888531949] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote>What if a serial killer won the lottery and bought an apache helicopter on the black market and went on a killing rampage through new york? I feel like hypotheticals like this lack a point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 10/16/17 10:23:03 AM #9:	pinky0926 posted... What if a serial killer won the lottery and bought an apache helicopter on the black market and went on a killing rampage through new york? I feel like hypotheticals like this lack a point. I assume the point is that the TC wanted to emphasize that within our legal system/structure women have an inherent advantage and functionally have the power to ruin a man's life without much real effort and no repercussion. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:888532010] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote>What if a serial killer won the lottery and bought an apache helicopter on the black market and went on a killing rampage through new york? I feel like hypotheticals like this lack a point.</quote> I assume the point is that the TC wanted to emphasize that within our legal system/structure women have an inherent advantage and functionally have the power to ruin a man's life without much real effort and no repercussion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Were_Wyrm 10/16/17 10:24:21 AM #10:	frozenshock posted... What can the guy do to defend himself? Serve his entire sentence in solitary. --- I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom http://i.imgur.com/9gYddqW.jpg <cite>Were_Wyrm posted [p:888532069] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote>What can the guy do to defend himself?</quote> Serve his entire sentence in solitary.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 10/16/17 10:24:42 AM #11:	s0nicfan posted... wackyteen posted... frozenshock posted... What can the guy do to defend himself? Nothing. If he lawyers up then MAYBE he could prevent a jail sentence using their lack of evidence, or if he gets lucky they could subpoena their cell phone records to show evidence of collusion. In the time that will take, though, he'll be expelled if he's in school, smeared across national news, and effectively ruined for the rest of his life even if he avoids a sentence. Honestly if there was evidence of collusion, they should be thrown in prison for 10+ years and each charged with felonies --- The name is wackyteen* for a reason. Never doubt. *No longer teen <cite>wackyteen posted [p:888532084] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote> What can the guy do to defend himself?</quote> Nothing.</quote> If he lawyers up then MAYBE he could prevent a jail sentence using their lack of evidence, or if he gets lucky they could subpoena their cell phone records to show evidence of collusion. In the time that will take, though, he'll be expelled if he's in school, smeared across national news, and effectively ruined for the rest of his life even if he avoids a sentence.</quote> Honestly if there was evidence of collusion, they should be thrown in prison for 10+ years and each charged with felonies</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 10/16/17 10:26:02 AM #12:	wackyteen posted... s0nicfan posted... wackyteen posted... frozenshock posted... What can the guy do to defend himself? Nothing. If he lawyers up then MAYBE he could prevent a jail sentence using their lack of evidence, or if he gets lucky they could subpoena their cell phone records to show evidence of collusion. In the time that will take, though, he'll be expelled if he's in school, smeared across national news, and effectively ruined for the rest of his life even if he avoids a sentence. Honestly if there was evidence of collusion, they should be thrown in prison for 10+ years and each charged with felonies I'm a fan of people who suggest that if you can prove (high bar, here) that your accuser falsified rape claims to get revenge of some kind, that said accuser should be charged with the same crime and put on the sex offender list forever. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:888532151] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote> What can the guy do to defend himself?</quote> Nothing.</quote> If he lawyers up then MAYBE he could prevent a jail sentence using their lack of evidence, or if he gets lucky they could subpoena their cell phone records to show evidence of collusion. In the time that will take, though, he'll be expelled if he's in school, smeared across national news, and effectively ruined for the rest of his life even if he avoids a sentence.</quote> Honestly if there was evidence of collusion, they should be thrown in prison for 10+ years and each charged with felonies</quote> I'm a fan of people who suggest that if you can prove (high bar, here) that your accuser falsified rape claims to get revenge of some kind, that said accuser should be charged with the same crime and put on the sex offender list forever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 10/16/17 10:28:08 AM #13:	Here's an interesting article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/12/06/no-matter-what-jackie-said-we-should-automatically-believe-rape-claims/ It feels to me that some people think that it's offensive to dare think that a girl might lie about being raped, so in the case of every crime it's innocent until proven guilty but in the case of rape it's the other way around idk I worked for a female lawyer a few years ago and I remember her talking nonchalantly about how she once threatened a client who didn't want to pay by saying she was going to accuse him of raping her --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:888532248] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote>Here's an interesting article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/12/06/no-matter-what-jackie-said-we-should-automatically-believe-rape-claims/ It feels to me that some people think that it's offensive to dare think that a girl might lie about being raped, so in the case of every crime it's innocent until proven guilty but in the case of rape it's the other way around idk I worked for a female lawyer a few years ago and I remember her talking nonchalantly about how she once threatened a client who didn't want to pay by saying she was going to accuse him of raping her</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 10/16/17 10:28:59 AM #14:	the chances of a case without physical evidence going to trial are low. witness testimony is undervalued relative to physical evidence as for the impact on personal life, yes it is extreme and no you can't do much about that. it is the social power women have, the risk being that if they're caught in the lie they'd face significant punishment themselves; much as men hold the power of physical violence over women and being caught poses the risk of significant punishment. frozenshock posted... I worked for a female lawyer a few years ago and I remember her talking nonchalantly about how she once threatened a client who didn't want to pay by saying she was going to accuse him of raping her can you imagine if he'd been recording that conversation? she'd be disbarred immediately. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:888532292] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote>the chances of a case without physical evidence going to trial are low. witness testimony is undervalued relative to physical evidence as for the impact on personal life, yes it is extreme and no you can't do much about that. it is the social power women have, the risk being that if they're caught in the lie they'd face significant punishment themselves; much as men hold the power of physical violence over women and being caught poses the risk of significant punishment. <cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote> I worked for a female lawyer a few years ago and I remember her talking nonchalantly about how she once threatened a client who didn't want to pay by saying she was going to accuse him of raping her</quote> can you imagine if he'd been recording that conversation? she'd be disbarred immediately.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 10/16/17 10:30:43 AM #15:	Darkman124 posted... can you imagine if he'd been recording that conversation? she'd be disbarred immediately. The guy was a poor cab driver barely making ends meet. I don't think he could even afford a tape recorder --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:888532374] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>can you imagine if he'd been recording that conversation? she'd be disbarred immediately.</quote> The guy was a poor cab driver barely making ends meet. I don't think he could even afford a tape recorder</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Laserion 10/16/17 10:39:50 AM #16:	Somehow get to record them confessing it. He will have to weigh the charges for raping 5 girls vs the charges for wire-tapping. --- There is no "would of", "should of" or "could of". There is "would've", "should've" and "could've". <cite>Laserion posted [p:888532777] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote>Somehow get to record them confessing it. He will have to weigh the charges for raping 5 girls vs the charges for wire-tapping.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 10/16/17 10:44:14 AM #17:	s0nicfan posted... pinky0926 posted... What if a serial killer won the lottery and bought an apache helicopter on the black market and went on a killing rampage through new york? I feel like hypotheticals like this lack a point. I assume the point is that the TC wanted to emphasize that within our legal system/structure women have an inherent advantage and functionally have the power to ruin a man's life without much real effort and no repercussion. Men could do the same thing. The problem with a rape is there isn't much evidence, unless someone reports it right away. --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:888533008] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote>What if a serial killer won the lottery and bought an apache helicopter on the black market and went on a killing rampage through new york? I feel like hypotheticals like this lack a point.</quote> I assume the point is that the TC wanted to emphasize that within our legal system/structure women have an inherent advantage and functionally have the power to ruin a man's life without much real effort and no repercussion.</quote> Men could do the same thing. The problem with a rape is there isn't much evidence, unless someone reports it right away.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 10/16/17 11:14:56 AM #18:	s0nicfan posted... pinky0926 posted... What if a serial killer won the lottery and bought an apache helicopter on the black market and went on a killing rampage through new york? I feel like hypotheticals like this lack a point. I assume the point is that the TC wanted to emphasize that within our legal system/structure women have an inherent advantage and functionally have the power to ruin a man's life without much real effort and no repercussion. What about how rape is incredibly hard to get a conviction for and even if there is the inevitable result is the woman is made a social pariah for "ruining the guy's life", which is why most women don't come forward or see through an attempted conviction? Because that's the actual reality of this situation, not the "what if" unlikely hypothetical scenario. You can make an argument that there's an inherent advantage for rapists in the current legal system, not that I have an answer for how to improve that. At least culturally we need to change. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:888534484] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote>What if a serial killer won the lottery and bought an apache helicopter on the black market and went on a killing rampage through new york? I feel like hypotheticals like this lack a point.</quote> I assume the point is that the TC wanted to emphasize that within our legal system/structure women have an inherent advantage and functionally have the power to ruin a man's life without much real effort and no repercussion.</quote> What about how rape is incredibly hard to get a conviction for and even if there is the inevitable result is the woman is made a social pariah for "ruining the guy's life", which is why most women don't come forward or see through an attempted conviction? Because that's the actual reality of this situation, not the "what if" unlikely hypothetical scenario. You can make an argument that there's an inherent advantage for rapists in the current legal system, not that I have an answer for how to improve that. At least culturally we need to change.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 10/16/17 11:18:07 AM #19:	pinky0926 posted... s0nicfan posted... pinky0926 posted... What if a serial killer won the lottery and bought an apache helicopter on the black market and went on a killing rampage through new york? I feel like hypotheticals like this lack a point. I assume the point is that the TC wanted to emphasize that within our legal system/structure women have an inherent advantage and functionally have the power to ruin a man's life without much real effort and no repercussion. What about how rape is incredibly hard to get a conviction for and even if there is the inevitable result is the woman is made a social pariah for "ruining the guy's life", which is why most women don't come forward or see through an attempted conviction? Because that's the actual reality of this situation, not the "what if" unlikely hypothetical scenario. You can make an argument that there's an inherent advantage for rapists in the current legal system, not that I have an answer for how to improve that. At least culturally we need to change. What country do you live in where a woman reporting having been raped makes her a social pariah? I live in a country where the "common consensus" is that one in four women will be raped in college. Clearly my country isn't one where the act of being raped and reporting it ruins your social standing. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:888534646] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote>What if a serial killer won the lottery and bought an apache helicopter on the black market and went on a killing rampage through new york? I feel like hypotheticals like this lack a point.</quote> I assume the point is that the TC wanted to emphasize that within our legal system/structure women have an inherent advantage and functionally have the power to ruin a man's life without much real effort and no repercussion.</quote> What about how rape is incredibly hard to get a conviction for and even if there is the inevitable result is the woman is made a social pariah for "ruining the guy's life", which is why most women don't come forward or see through an attempted conviction? Because that's the actual reality of this situation, not the "what if" unlikely hypothetical scenario. You can make an argument that there's an inherent advantage for rapists in the current legal system, not that I have an answer for how to improve that. At least culturally we need to change.</quote> What country do you live in where a woman reporting having been raped makes her a social pariah? I live in a country where the "common consensus" is that one in four women will be raped in college. Clearly my country isn't one where the act of being raped and reporting it ruins your social standing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E32005 10/16/17 11:26:27 AM #20:	Villain posted... E32005 posted... Its happened source? Google --- http://i.imgur.com/LAvnefi.gif http://i.imgur.com/6kW9fXL.gif <cite>E32005 posted [p:888535032] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote><cite>Villain posted...</cite> <quote><cite>E32005 posted...</cite> <quote>Its happened</quote> source?</quote> Google</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 10/16/17 11:29:04 AM #21:	s0nicfan posted... What country do you live in where a woman reporting having been raped makes her a social pariah? I live in a country where the "common consensus" is that one in four women will be raped in college. Clearly my country isn't one where the act of being raped and reporting it ruins your social standing. Dude, you should do some reading on this. Or speak to some female friends about this. That statistic isn't talking about successful convictions, it's talking about women who admit they have been sexually assaulted. And you'll find that an alarmingly high number of women you talk to have a sexual assault story, but almost none of them take it to court. I mean even just last night I was talking to someone who got raped by a mutual friend at a house party while on drugs and she won't say anything about it because everyone really likes the guy and it would certainly mean she'd lose all those friends. She also almost certainly wouldn't get anywhere in court. That's the situation with rape. It's rarely a stranger down a back alley. It's almost always a friend or a friend of a friend. And if you read that anecdote and thought "but she could have just made that up for sympathy" or something like that, you might appreciate why a woman might not even want to tell you about it. Look at what happened with Bill Cosby and Weinstein. Only once a ridiculously high number of women came forward did people pose less "she could be a gold digger" theories. When Nelly was accussed the other week almost everyone on the internet assumed the alleged victim was a gold digging hoe. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:888535164] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>What country do you live in where a woman reporting having been raped makes her a social pariah? I live in a country where the "common consensus" is that one in four women will be raped in college. Clearly my country isn't one where the act of being raped and reporting it ruins your social standing.</quote> Dude, you should do some reading on this. Or speak to some female friends about this. That statistic isn't talking about successful convictions, it's talking about women who admit they have been sexually assaulted. And you'll find that an alarmingly high number of women you talk to have a sexual assault story, but almost none of them take it to court. I mean even just last night I was talking to someone who got raped by a mutual friend at a house party while on drugs and she won't say anything about it because everyone really likes the guy and it would certainly mean she'd lose all those friends. She also almost certainly wouldn't get anywhere in court. That's the situation with rape. It's rarely a stranger down a back alley. It's almost always a friend or a friend of a friend. And if you read that anecdote and thought "but she could have just made that up for sympathy" or something like that, you might appreciate why a woman might not even want to tell you about it. Look at what happened with Bill Cosby and Weinstein. Only once a ridiculously high number of women came forward did people pose less "she could be a gold digger" theories. When Nelly was accussed the other week almost everyone on the internet assumed the alleged victim was a gold digging hoe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Patty_Fleur 10/16/17 11:29:23 AM #22:	s0nicfan posted... pinky0926 posted... s0nicfan posted... pinky0926 posted... What if a serial killer won the lottery and bought an apache helicopter on the black market and went on a killing rampage through new york? I feel like hypotheticals like this lack a point. I assume the point is that the TC wanted to emphasize that within our legal system/structure women have an inherent advantage and functionally have the power to ruin a man's life without much real effort and no repercussion. What about how rape is incredibly hard to get a conviction for and even if there is the inevitable result is the woman is made a social pariah for "ruining the guy's life", which is why most women don't come forward or see through an attempted conviction? Because that's the actual reality of this situation, not the "what if" unlikely hypothetical scenario. You can make an argument that there's an inherent advantage for rapists in the current legal system, not that I have an answer for how to improve that. At least culturally we need to change. What country do you live in where a woman reporting having been raped makes her a social pariah? I live in a country where the "common consensus" is that one in four women will be raped in college. Clearly my country isn't one where the act of being raped and reporting it ruins your social standing. There's no way 1 in 4 women are raped in college. --- Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead. <cite>Patty_Fleur posted [p:888535183] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote>What if a serial killer won the lottery and bought an apache helicopter on the black market and went on a killing rampage through new york? I feel like hypotheticals like this lack a point.</quote> I assume the point is that the TC wanted to emphasize that within our legal system/structure women have an inherent advantage and functionally have the power to ruin a man's life without much real effort and no repercussion.</quote> What about how rape is incredibly hard to get a conviction for and even if there is the inevitable result is the woman is made a social pariah for "ruining the guy's life", which is why most women don't come forward or see through an attempted conviction? Because that's the actual reality of this situation, not the "what if" unlikely hypothetical scenario. You can make an argument that there's an inherent advantage for rapists in the current legal system, not that I have an answer for how to improve that. At least culturally we need to change.</quote> What country do you live in where a woman reporting having been raped makes her a social pariah? I live in a country where the "common consensus" is that one in four women will be raped in college. Clearly my country isn't one where the act of being raped and reporting it ruins your social standing.</quote> There's no way 1 in 4 women are raped in college.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tadamoto24 10/16/17 11:30:22 AM #23:	Villain posted... E32005 posted... Its happened source? Bill Cosby --- http://i.imgtc.com/GOunQGg.gif, http://tinyurl.com/yb54cmjm, http://i.imgtc.com/jyRq6FW.gif, http://i.imgtc.com/565zHA5.gif <cite>Tadamoto24 posted [p:888535223] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote><cite>Villain posted...</cite> <quote><cite>E32005 posted...</cite> <quote>Its happened</quote> source?</quote> Bill Cosby</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Villain 10/16/17 12:09:54 PM #24:	Are you conveniently forgetting that he admitted to drugging women with the intent to have sex with them? --- http://i.imgur.com/ZWNgMXL.jpg Formally known as Will VIIII <cite>Villain posted [p:888537203] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote>Are you conveniently forgetting that he admitted to drugging women with the intent to have sex with them?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Villain 10/16/17 12:13:25 PM #25:	E32005 posted... Villain posted... E32005 posted... Its happened source? Google The burden of proof is on you to provide since you made the claim. --- http://i.imgur.com/ZWNgMXL.jpg Formally known as Will VIIII <cite>Villain posted [p:888537387] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote><cite>E32005 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Villain posted...</cite> <quote><cite>E32005 posted...</cite> <quote>Its happened</quote> source?</quote> Google</quote> The burden of proof is on you to provide since you made the claim.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 10/16/17 12:14:18 PM #26:	@glitteringfairy --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:888537428] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote>@glitteringfairy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E32005 10/16/17 12:16:23 PM #27:	Villain posted... E32005 posted... Villain posted... E32005 posted... Its happened source? Google The burden of proof is on you to provide since you made the claim. No. This isnt Ana argument its simple commentary to the topic. --- http://i.imgur.com/LAvnefi.gif http://i.imgur.com/6kW9fXL.gif <cite>E32005 posted [p:888537546] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote><cite>Villain posted...</cite> <quote><cite>E32005 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Villain posted...</cite> <quote><cite>E32005 posted...</cite> <quote>Its happened</quote> source?</quote> Google</quote> The burden of proof is on you to provide since you made the claim.</quote> No. This isnt Ana argument its simple commentary to the topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/16/17 12:18:01 PM #28:	Then he'll be falsely accused of rape. I don't know why we're so worried about this on CE when rape is a severely underreported crime and less than 10% of the accusations we do hear are false. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:888537641] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote>Then he'll be falsely accused of rape. I don't know why we're so worried about this on CE when rape is a severely underreported crime and less than 10% of the accusations we do hear are false.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Villain 10/16/17 12:18:26 PM #29:	Well your commentary is wrong unless you can back it up. I might as well just say the sky is brown. --- http://i.imgur.com/ZWNgMXL.jpg Formally known as Will VIIII <cite>Villain posted [p:888537669] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote>Well your commentary is wrong unless you can back it up. I might as well just say the sky is brown.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trigg3rH4ppy 10/16/17 12:18:57 PM #30:	wackyteen posted... s0nicfan posted... wackyteen posted... frozenshock posted... What can the guy do to defend himself? Nothing. If he lawyers up then MAYBE he could prevent a jail sentence using their lack of evidence, or if he gets lucky they could subpoena their cell phone records to show evidence of collusion. In the time that will take, though, he'll be expelled if he's in school, smeared across national news, and effectively ruined for the rest of his life even if he avoids a sentence. Honestly if there was evidence of collusion, they should be thrown in prison for 10+ years and each charged with felonies Nah, death sentence for all of them if there's undeniable proof that they colluded to ruin this person's life with false rape allegations. After the first batch of whores are executed nobody would ever think about doing some stupid shit like this again. --- ~A little nonsense, now and then, is relished by the wisest men ~ TWSSted since~ 3/27/12 https://i.imgur.com/zlaENmx.png <cite>Trigg3rH4ppy posted [p:888537700] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote> What can the guy do to defend himself?</quote> Nothing.</quote> If he lawyers up then MAYBE he could prevent a jail sentence using their lack of evidence, or if he gets lucky they could subpoena their cell phone records to show evidence of collusion. In the time that will take, though, he'll be expelled if he's in school, smeared across national news, and effectively ruined for the rest of his life even if he avoids a sentence.</quote> Honestly if there was evidence of collusion, they should be thrown in prison for 10+ years and each charged with felonies</quote> Nah, death sentence for all of them if there's undeniable proof that they colluded to ruin this person's life with false rape allegations. After the first batch of whores are executed nobody would ever think about doing some stupid shit like this again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trigg3rH4ppy 10/16/17 12:25:36 PM #31:	Patty_Fleur posted... s0nicfan posted... pinky0926 posted... s0nicfan posted... pinky0926 posted... What if a serial killer won the lottery and bought an apache helicopter on the black market and went on a killing rampage through new york? I feel like hypotheticals like this lack a point. I assume the point is that the TC wanted to emphasize that within our legal system/structure women have an inherent advantage and functionally have the power to ruin a man's life without much real effort and no repercussion. What about how rape is incredibly hard to get a conviction for and even if there is the inevitable result is the woman is made a social pariah for "ruining the guy's life", which is why most women don't come forward or see through an attempted conviction? Because that's the actual reality of this situation, not the "what if" unlikely hypothetical scenario. You can make an argument that there's an inherent advantage for rapists in the current legal system, not that I have an answer for how to improve that. At least culturally we need to change. What country do you live in where a woman reporting having been raped makes her a social pariah? I live in a country where the "common consensus" is that one in four women will be raped in college. Clearly my country isn't one where the act of being raped and reporting it ruins your social standing. There's no way 1 in 4 women are raped in college. If a man and a woman are both equally under the influence of alcohol and have consensual sex (I'm not talking pass out drunk either) the man raped that woman. --- ~A little nonsense, now and then, is relished by the wisest men ~ TWSSted since~ 3/27/12 https://i.imgur.com/zlaENmx.png <cite>Trigg3rH4ppy posted [p:888538061] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote><cite>Patty_Fleur posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote>What if a serial killer won the lottery and bought an apache helicopter on the black market and went on a killing rampage through new york? I feel like hypotheticals like this lack a point.</quote> I assume the point is that the TC wanted to emphasize that within our legal system/structure women have an inherent advantage and functionally have the power to ruin a man's life without much real effort and no repercussion.</quote> What about how rape is incredibly hard to get a conviction for and even if there is the inevitable result is the woman is made a social pariah for "ruining the guy's life", which is why most women don't come forward or see through an attempted conviction? Because that's the actual reality of this situation, not the "what if" unlikely hypothetical scenario. You can make an argument that there's an inherent advantage for rapists in the current legal system, not that I have an answer for how to improve that. At least culturally we need to change.</quote> What country do you live in where a woman reporting having been raped makes her a social pariah? I live in a country where the "common consensus" is that one in four women will be raped in college. Clearly my country isn't one where the act of being raped and reporting it ruins your social standing.</quote> There's no way 1 in 4 women are raped in college.</quote> If a man and a woman are both equally under the influence of alcohol and have consensual sex (I'm not talking pass out drunk either) the man raped that woman.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
glitteringfairy 10/16/17 12:26:07 PM #32:	Blue_Inigo posted... @glitteringfairy Not a rapist bro. Just a deeder --- "How come you can believe in God but not Bigfoot?" V-E-G-Y http://i.imgur.com/AqR3aeX.jpg http://i.imgur.com/vvuUXpp.jpg <cite>glitteringfairy posted [p:888538098] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote>@glitteringfairy</quote> Not a rapist bro. Just a deeder</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cobra1010 10/16/17 12:26:50 PM #33:	http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/24/woman-falsely-accused-15-men-rape-sexual-assault-jailed-ten/ Just 1 'girl' accused 15 men of rape. One of them went to jail for 2 years and 9 months. While she was awarded 11,000. Another victim was given a 7 year sentence. One guy fled the country. 2 Guys arrested but werent charged After she was found guilty of lying. The victim that was sentenced for 7 years appealed against his conviction and but was quashed. --- GG Riot - http://i.imgur.com/PinGPhR.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Hs8Y1vQ.png <cite>Cobra1010 posted [p:888538145] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/24/woman-falsely-accused-15-men-rape-sexual-assault-jailed-ten/ Just 1 'girl' accused 15 men of rape. One of them went to jail for 2 years and 9 months. While she was awarded 11,000. Another victim was given a 7 year sentence. One guy fled the country. 2 Guys arrested but werent charged After she was found guilty of lying. The victim that was sentenced for 7 years appealed against his conviction and but was quashed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Knowledge_King 10/18/17 11:46:17 AM #35:	pinky0926 posted... I mean even just last night I was talking to someone who got raped by a mutual friend at a house party while on drugs and she won't say anything about it because everyone really likes the guy and it would certainly mean she'd lose all those friends. She also almost certainly wouldn't get anywhere in court. That's the situation with rape. It's rarely a stranger down a back alley. It's almost always a friend or a friend of a friend. Honestly, that's dumb as hell. Most people would abandon the guy who raped the girl, not the girl who got raped. If she truly got raped (and not just like...we had sex while drunk/high), then coming forward would do nothing bad to her. --- http://www.warwithwords.com He Who Leads: Global Ebook Award Winner:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CE0TLLM <cite>Knowledge_King posted [p:888664499] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote>I mean even just last night I was talking to someone who got raped by a mutual friend at a house party while on drugs and she won't say anything about it because everyone really likes the guy and it would certainly mean she'd lose all those friends. She also almost certainly wouldn't get anywhere in court. That's the situation with rape. It's rarely a stranger down a back alley. It's almost always a friend or a friend of a friend. </quote> Honestly, that's dumb as hell. Most people would abandon the guy who raped the girl, not the girl who got raped. If she truly got raped (and not just like...we had sex while drunk/high), then coming forward would do nothing bad to her.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 10/18/17 11:52:27 AM #36:	Knowledge_King posted... pinky0926 posted... I mean even just last night I was talking to someone who got raped by a mutual friend at a house party while on drugs and she won't say anything about it because everyone really likes the guy and it would certainly mean she'd lose all those friends. She also almost certainly wouldn't get anywhere in court. That's the situation with rape. It's rarely a stranger down a back alley. It's almost always a friend or a friend of a friend. Honestly, that's dumb as hell. Most people would abandon the guy who raped the girl, not the girl who got raped. If she truly got raped (and not just like...we had sex while drunk/high), then coming forward would do nothing bad to her. This is what we call gaslighting. "What? She's crazy! Everyone would believe her and no one would defend the guy. Everyone would be on her side. Even though there are thousands of cases where this does not happen, I'm going to ignore all of them and call her dumb." --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:888664859] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote><cite>Knowledge_King posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote>I mean even just last night I was talking to someone who got raped by a mutual friend at a house party while on drugs and she won't say anything about it because everyone really likes the guy and it would certainly mean she'd lose all those friends. She also almost certainly wouldn't get anywhere in court. That's the situation with rape. It's rarely a stranger down a back alley. It's almost always a friend or a friend of a friend. </quote> Honestly, that's dumb as hell. Most people would abandon the guy who raped the girl, not the girl who got raped. If she truly got raped (and not just like...we had sex while drunk/high), then coming forward would do nothing bad to her.</quote> This is what we call gaslighting. "What? She's crazy! Everyone would believe her and no one would defend the guy. Everyone would be on her side. Even though there are thousands of cases where this does not happen, I'm going to ignore all of them and call her dumb."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 10/18/17 12:10:41 PM #37:	Unfortunately, the hard part about convicting for rape is the physical evidence for rape is often indistinguishable from the physical evidence of consensual sex. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac <cite>Esrac posted [p:888665875] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote>Unfortunately, the hard part about convicting for rape is the physical evidence for rape is often indistinguishable from the physical evidence of consensual sex.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Knowledge_King 10/18/17 4:31:19 PM #38:	That_Happened posted... This is what we call gaslighting. "What? She's crazy! Everyone would believe her and no one would defend the guy. Everyone would be on her side. Even though there are thousands of cases where this does not happen, I'm going to ignore all of them and call her dumb." What thousands of cases? --- http://www.warwithwords.com He Who Leads: Global Ebook Award Winner:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CE0TLLM <cite>Knowledge_King posted [p:888681602] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote> This is what we call gaslighting. "What? She's crazy! Everyone would believe her and no one would defend the guy. Everyone would be on her side. Even though there are thousands of cases where this does not happen, I'm going to ignore all of them and call her dumb."</quote> What thousands of cases?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Catgirl Fondler 10/20/17 4:47:33 AM #40:	Th3HonestTruth posted... Cobra1010 posted... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/24/woman-falsely-accused-15-men-rape-sexual-assault-jailed-ten/ Just 1 'girl' accused 15 men of rape. One of them went to jail for 2 years and 9 months. While she was awarded 11,000. Another victim was given a 7 year sentence. One guy fled the country. 2 Guys arrested but werent charged After she was found guilty of lying. The victim that was sentenced for 7 years appealed against his conviction and but was quashed. Holy shit The real scary part is, there's people out there (including on this board) who would adamantly defend what she did, and they just generally see nothing wrong with the concept of false accusations and/or refuse to believe that they even happen. "Guilty until proven never." --- N/A <cite>The Catgirl Fondler posted [p:888781375] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote><cite>Th3HonestTruth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cobra1010 posted...</cite> <quote>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/24/woman-falsely-accused-15-men-rape-sexual-assault-jailed-ten/ Just 1 'girl' accused 15 men of rape. One of them went to jail for 2 years and 9 months. While she was awarded 11,000. Another victim was given a 7 year sentence. One guy fled the country. 2 Guys arrested but werent charged After she was found guilty of lying. The victim that was sentenced for 7 years appealed against his conviction and but was quashed.</quote> Holy shit</quote> The real scary part is, there's people out there (including on this board) who would adamantly defend what she did, and they just generally see nothing wrong with the concept of false accusations and/or refuse to believe that they even happen. "Guilty until proven never."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bknight 10/20/17 5:21:52 AM #41:	He apologizes and then announce to the world that he's going to rehab for sex addiction and then gets kicked off his company. <cite>bknight posted [p:888782156] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote>He apologizes and then announce to the world that he's going to rehab for sex addiction and then gets kicked off his company.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MakoReizei 10/20/17 5:28:51 AM #42:	If a man is falsely accused of rape his life is pretty much over. Sad. --- http://i.imgur.com/mgCjlbV.jpg <cite>MakoReizei posted [p:888782264] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote>If a man is falsely accused of rape his life is pretty much over. Sad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
unpleasant_milk 10/20/17 5:34:57 AM #43:	s0nicfan posted... pinky0926 posted... What if a serial killer won the lottery and bought an apache helicopter on the black market and went on a killing rampage through new york? I feel like hypotheticals like this lack a point. I assume the point is that the TC wanted to emphasize that within our legal system/structure women have an inherent advantage and functionally have the power to ruin a man's life without much real effort and no repercussion. And it is a point worth making tbh. --- GT unpleasant milk #I want a poacher skin rug ~ http://imgur.com/a/V10yv <cite>unpleasant_milk posted [p:888782374] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote>What if a serial killer won the lottery and bought an apache helicopter on the black market and went on a killing rampage through new york? I feel like hypotheticals like this lack a point.</quote> I assume the point is that the TC wanted to emphasize that within our legal system/structure women have an inherent advantage and functionally have the power to ruin a man's life without much real effort and no repercussion.</quote> And it is a point worth making tbh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
awesome999 10/20/17 5:36:39 AM #44:	RIP everything the guy and his parents worked for --- When it's kids, it's "bullying" but if it were adults, it's stalking, harassment, assault, criminal threats and just general abuse. -Tmk <cite>awesome999 posted [p:888782406] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote>RIP everything the guy and his parents worked for</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Arcanine2009 10/22/17 6:22:52 AM #46:	They need actual evidence to win. I could see them tell slightly different stories and screw themselves over. He could take them to court asap. --- Less is more. Everything you want, isn't everything you need. <cite>Arcanine2009 posted [p:888900107] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote>They need actual evidence to win. I could see them tell slightly different stories and screw themselves over. He could take them to court asap.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TommyOh 10/22/17 6:33:58 AM #47:	It doesn't take 4 or 5 girls, it only takes 1. And even if caught and proven to be lying, her punishment is nothing compared to what the guy would've faced had she been successful. <cite>TommyOh posted [p:888900353] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote>It doesn't take 4 or 5 girls, it only takes 1. And even if caught and proven to be lying, her punishment is nothing compared to what the guy would've faced had she been successful.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muflaggin 10/22/17 6:40:03 AM #48:	He's fucked. --- Posted using GameFlux Get it now for Android from Google Play! <cite>Muflaggin posted [p:888900481] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote>He's fucked.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hakujo 10/22/17 6:40:39 AM #49:	Th3HonestTruth posted... The Catgirl Fondler posted... Th3HonestTruth posted... Cobra1010 posted... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/24/woman-falsely-accused-15-men-rape-sexual-assault-jailed-ten/ Just 1 'girl' accused 15 men of rape. One of them went to jail for 2 years and 9 months. While she was awarded 11,000. Another victim was given a 7 year sentence. One guy fled the country. 2 Guys arrested but werent charged After she was found guilty of lying. The victim that was sentenced for 7 years appealed against his conviction and but was quashed. Holy shit The real scary part is, there's people out there (including on this board) who would adamantly defend what she did, and they just generally see nothing wrong with the concept of false accusations and/or refuse to believe that they even happen. "Guilty until proven never." Quoted for truth --- Nooo stop reading me without consent <cite>hakujo posted [p:888900498] in What if 4 ... [t:75884899]...</cite> <quote><cite>Th3HonestTruth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Catgirl Fondler posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Th3HonestTruth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cobra1010 posted...</cite> <quote>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/24/woman-falsely-accused-15-men-rape-sexual-assault-jailed-ten/ Just 1 'girl' accused 15 men of rape. One of them went to jail for 2 years and 9 months. While she was awarded 11,000. Another victim was given a 7 year sentence. One guy fled the country. 2 Guys arrested but werent charged After she was found guilty of lying. The victim that was sentenced for 7 years appealed against his conviction and but was quashed.</quote> Holy shit</quote> The real scary part is, there's people out there (including on this board) who would adamantly defend what she did, and they just generally see nothing wrong with the concept of false accusations and/or refuse to believe that they even happen. "Guilty until proven never."</quote> Quoted for truth</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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