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TheMarthKoopa
10/09/17 11:00:54 PM
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Those were fun times

Now they put microtransactions in $80 singleplayer games
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courier_nv
10/09/17 11:01:43 PM
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yes. it ended with the 360
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Virus731
10/09/17 11:01:50 PM
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what 80 dollar single player game are you talking about
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ChromaticAngel
10/09/17 11:05:34 PM
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TheMarthKoopa posted...
Those were fun times

Now they put microtransactions in $80 singleplayer games


They still do.

I mean EA isn't one of them but they still do.
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CADE FOSTER
10/09/17 11:05:42 PM
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ChromaticAngel
10/09/17 11:05:53 PM
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Virus731 posted...
what 80 dollar single player game are you talking about

Battlefront 2
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Dash_Harber
10/09/17 11:07:46 PM
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Way better when we had to buy lives 25 cents at a time.
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GOATSLAYER
10/09/17 11:08:28 PM
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Yes, I remember the present
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sabin017
10/09/17 11:08:48 PM
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It's technically the publishers forcing the developers to include all this nonsense since the gameplay is usually fine at its core.
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Virus731
10/09/17 11:11:04 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
Virus731 posted...
what 80 dollar single player game are you talking about

Battlefront 2


well it's not going to have DLC so I don't know what the problem is
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Hayame Zero
10/09/17 11:14:44 PM
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Microtransactions aside, they're still a hell of a lot better than most Japanese games these days.
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Im_JustMe0129
10/09/17 11:15:43 PM
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Pepperridge Farm remembers
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SkittyOnWailord
10/09/17 11:16:35 PM
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Hayame Zero posted...
Microtransactions aside, they're still a hell of a lot better than most Japanese games these days.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx_9E0Uu9Cg

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TheMarthKoopa
10/09/17 11:21:19 PM
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Hayame Zero posted...
Microtransactions aside, they're still a hell of a lot better than most Japanese games these days.

I guess if you're not playing games to have fun
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FightingGames
10/09/17 11:24:33 PM
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agreed. whenever someone tries to argue that western games are better, it's always old ass games from 2 decades ago that are brought up to support their argument
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Dash_Harber
10/09/17 11:26:27 PM
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FightingGames posted...
agreed. whenever someone tries to argue that western games are better, it's always old ass games from 2 decades ago that are brought up to support their argument


I honestly don't think the divide even really exists anymore.

Dark Souls is a western game, yet has more in common with western RPGs than it does with JRPGs. I'm sure there are games that go the other way, too.
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Spidey5
10/09/17 11:30:13 PM
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Im_JustMe0129 posted...
Pepperridge Farm remembers


Also

The best western games are indie games.
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literal_garbage
10/09/17 11:32:06 PM
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"Waaaaaah, I have to actually pay for my games!?!?" - This topic
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TheMarthKoopa
10/09/17 11:34:05 PM
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literal_garbage posted...
"Waaaaaah, I have to actually pay for my games!?!?" - This topic

Are you a gambling addict?
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Gamer99z
10/09/17 11:34:45 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
Virus731 posted...
what 80 dollar single player game are you talking about

Battlefront 2

Battlefront 2 isn't $80
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EbonTitanium
10/09/17 11:44:00 PM
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Yes, now.
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CADE FOSTER
10/10/17 12:00:12 AM
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Highwind07 posted...
I given up on JRPGs sometime ago, but other than those I just see a lot of games where they are nothing but teenage girls with enormous boobs doing cute and sexy things.

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GOATSLAYER
10/10/17 12:06:46 AM
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SerperiorThanU posted...
Hayame Zero posted...
Microtransactions aside, they're still a hell of a lot better than most Japanese games these days.

Mario Odyssey gonna kick everything to the curb

No
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Darmik
10/10/17 12:34:22 AM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
Virus731 posted...
what 80 dollar single player game are you talking about

Battlefront 2


Why would you pay for any of the more expensive editions if you just want the single player?
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CookieMarvin
10/10/17 12:58:10 AM
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GOATSLAYER posted...
SerperiorThanU posted...
Hayame Zero posted...
Microtransactions aside, they're still a hell of a lot better than most Japanese games these days.

Mario Odyssey gonna kick everything to the curb

No


this is the most negative thing Ive seen anyone say about odyssey
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apolloooo
10/10/17 1:30:10 AM
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Its not the western of easter. Itvis about size.

AAA game industry are just unsustainable and toxic and shit for examplr square enix capcom konami etc are pretty much the same ifcnot worse that ea ubisoft or warner bros.
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Dash_Harber
10/10/17 1:52:40 AM
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apolloooo posted...
Its not the western of easter. Itvis about size.

AAA game industry are just unsustainable and toxic and shit for examplr square enix capcom konami etc are pretty much the same ifcnot worse that ea ubisoft or warner bros.


Did you type this on your toaster?
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Foppe
10/10/17 1:59:18 AM
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aLwzS
Remember expensive singleplayer games?
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apolloooo
10/10/17 2:00:28 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
apolloooo posted...
Its not the western of easter. Itvis about size.

AAA game industry are just unsustainable and toxic and shit for examplr square enix capcom konami etc are pretty much the same ifcnot worse that ea ubisoft or warner bros.


Did you type this on your toaster?

Yes kinda.
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PesticideDream
10/10/17 2:00:57 AM
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The fuck? Japanese games do the same thing, except their big money maker is selling tons of costumes for money. I haven't spent a cent on any Western microtransactions.
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TheMarthKoopa
10/10/17 9:13:06 AM
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PesticideDream posted...
except their big money maker is selling tons of costumes for money.

There is nothing wrong with costume DLC

Loot boxes, however, are just plain gambling and should be illegal
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Thompson
10/10/17 9:17:07 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
Way better when we had to buy lives 25 cents at a time.


Are you from the future?
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Kitt
10/10/17 9:26:26 AM
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What is this, the PlayStation board? All that goes on over there are kids arguing about Western devs and Japanese devs and pointlessly shitting on each other's opinion regarding that subject matter.

I, *gasp*, tend to enjoy both if the games themselves are actually good.
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CookieMarvin
10/10/17 1:32:15 PM
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Forlorn_Ass
10/10/17 1:35:07 PM
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Shit like this is why I don't look forward to games anymore. Half life 3, Left 4 Dead 3, Kingdom Hearts 3, etc.

I enjoyed the hell out of the prequels to these but I know when they release sequels there's gonna be so much micros. If I pay $60.00 for a game, it should have everything included.
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Veggeta X
10/10/17 1:35:44 PM
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So is TC implying that Halo was a good game?
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Virus731
10/10/17 1:39:35 PM
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Forlorn_Ass posted...
I enjoyed the hell out of the prequels to these but I know when they release sequels there's gonna be so much micros. If I pay $60.00 for a game, it should have everything included.


how do microtransactions diminish your enjoyment? most of the time they are cosmetic and the whole "it's grindier because of micros" argument is horse shit, games have always been grindy af
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ModLogic
10/10/17 1:40:38 PM
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CookieMarvin
10/10/17 1:41:47 PM
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ModLogic posted...
TheMarthKoopa posted...
Remember when developers made good games?

fixed for you

yep. there are no good video games anymore. wrap it up, everyone, its time to find a new hobby
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Forlorn_Ass
10/10/17 1:48:01 PM
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Virus731 posted...
Forlorn_Ass posted...
I enjoyed the hell out of the prequels to these but I know when they release sequels there's gonna be so much micros. If I pay $60.00 for a game, it should have everything included.


how do microtransactions diminish your enjoyment? most of the time they are cosmetic and the whole "it's grindier because of micros" argument is horse shit, games have always been grindy af


Because what used to be unlockable in games through just playing it you now have to just buy.
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Romulox28
10/10/17 1:57:28 PM
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courier_nv posted...
yes. it ended with the 360

id say around 2009, when Modern Warfare 2 came out and everyone started going all in for the casual bro market
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Dash_Harber
10/10/17 11:22:00 PM
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Thompson posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Way better when we had to buy lives 25 cents at a time.


Are you from the future?


*Cleans old guys glasses*
Back in my day there were these things called 'arcades' where you had to pay a quarter any time you wanted to play a game, and if you died, you had to pay more quarters!

It was such garbage, too. They just took all the content and locked it behind a paywall. If you want to win, you have to keep paying them. Each player even had to pay just to play multiplayer. Such sneaky bastards!
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Foppe
10/11/17 2:03:15 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qause0z-9tM

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ModLogic
10/12/17 4:32:39 PM
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Godnorgosh posted...
Virus731 posted...
Forlorn_Ass posted...
I enjoyed the hell out of the prequels to these but I know when they release sequels there's gonna be so much micros. If I pay $60.00 for a game, it should have everything included.


how do microtransactions diminish your enjoyment? most of the time they are cosmetic and the whole "it's grindier because of micros" argument is horse shit, games have always been grindy af


Microtransactions motivate bad design choices. Fewer unlockables are unlocked through actual gameplay, because why not just charge real money for them? And why release a complete game when you can just lock story content behind season passes? Obviously these design choices have long-term consequences, but greedy publishers are too inept to consider the long haul.

That kind of shit is why a game like Undertale, which was made by a neckbeard in his mom's basement, is better than most "AAA" games released today.

publisher isnt inept

fanboys are the cancer
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