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DevsBro 10/09/17 11:26:31 PM #52:	Your mistake is assuming that I think Bond should be a role model at all. Characters can exist as protagonists and still be bad people. Look at Tony Soprano. Great character. Fascinating protagonist. Not even remotely the kind of person I think anyone should aspire to be. Sorry, I tend to quote a post when it brings a thought to my mind, and it doesn't always mean I'm agreeing or disagreeing. --- http://backloggery.com/devsbro/sig.gif http://i.imgur.com/kU5vu5N.png Never pepper popcorn <cite>DevsBro posted [p:888142457] in Why stop a... [t:75861446]...</cite> <quote><quote>Your mistake is assuming that I think Bond should be a role model at all. Characters can exist as protagonists and still be bad people. Look at Tony Soprano. Great character. Fascinating protagonist. Not even remotely the kind of person I think anyone should aspire to be.</quote> Sorry, I tend to quote a post when it brings a thought to my mind, and it doesn't always mean I'm agreeing or disagreeing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 10/09/17 11:27:06 PM #53:	DevsBro posted... Your mistake is assuming that I think Bond should be a role model at all. Characters can exist as protagonists and still be bad people. Look at Tony Soprano. Great character. Fascinating protagonist. Not even remotely the kind of person I think anyone should aspire to be. Sorry, I tend to quote a post when it brings a thought to my mind, and it doesn't always mean I'm agreeing or disagreeing. Ah, I understand that. I frequently do the same. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:888142477] in Why stop a... [t:75861446]...</cite> <quote><cite>DevsBro posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Your mistake is assuming that I think Bond should be a role model at all. Characters can exist as protagonists and still be bad people. Look at Tony Soprano. Great character. Fascinating protagonist. Not even remotely the kind of person I think anyone should aspire to be.</quote> Sorry, I tend to quote a post when it brings a thought to my mind, and it doesn't always mean I'm agreeing or disagreeing.</quote> Ah, I understand that. I frequently do the same.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hayame Zero 10/09/17 11:28:53 PM #54:	Gillian Anderson actually said she wanted to play Bond. Which the fact that isn't from UK would bother more than her being female. --- ...I think I'm done here... <cite>Hayame Zero posted [p:888142572] in Why stop a... [t:75861446]...</cite> <quote>Gillian Anderson actually said she wanted to play Bond. Which the fact that isn't from UK would bother more than her being female.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 10/10/17 12:12:30 AM #55:	Knowledge_King posted... darkjedilink posted... Knowledge_King posted... darkjedilink posted... If recasting minority characters as other races is bad, recasting white characters to minorities is just as bad. No it's not. You're literally ignoring the definition of the word "minority" and the context behind the change. How do you figure it's not? You have 20 tomatoes. John has 5. You steal 3 of John's tomatoes everywhere so he can only maintain 5 as you continue to grow in number. John takes 1 of your tomatoes. Is that as bad as you taking 3, aka 60% of his? Especially as you do it every year? No. Not by the numbers. Literally fake news. The diversity of Hollywood is very close to the diversity of America by racial percentages. http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/30000-hollywood-film-characters-heres-many-werent-white/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_the_United_States Ergo, I stand by my statement - if whitewashing is bad, so is minority-washing. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:888144895] in Why stop a... [t:75861446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Knowledge_King posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Knowledge_King posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>If recasting minority characters as other races is bad, recasting white characters to minorities is just as bad. </quote> No it's not. You're literally ignoring the definition of the word "minority" and the context behind the change.</quote> How do you figure it's not?</quote> You have 20 tomatoes. John has 5. You steal 3 of John's tomatoes everywhere so he can only maintain 5 as you continue to grow in number. John takes 1 of your tomatoes. Is that as bad as you taking 3, aka 60% of his? Especially as you do it every year? No. Not by the numbers.</quote> Literally fake news. The diversity of Hollywood is very close to the diversity of America by racial percentages. http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/30000-hollywood-film-characters-heres-many-werent-white/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_the_United_States Ergo, I stand by my statement - if whitewashing is bad, so is minority-washing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Butterfiles 10/10/17 12:57:10 AM #56:	about time we get a "Jim Bond" --- http://www.last.fm/user/PigBun 56k warning <cite>Butterfiles posted [p:888146676] in Why stop a... [t:75861446]...</cite> <quote>about time we get a "Jim Bond"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 10/10/17 8:02:34 AM #57:	darkjedilink posted... Ergo, I stand by my statement - if whitewashing is bad, so is minority-washing. Don't let him even fool to into thinking he thinks ratios or %s or numbers matter. The SJWs complained about Matt Damon being in The Great Wall, even though it was a Chinese film, by a Chinese writer, made for Chinese audiences, and Matt Damon(white) sure as fuck isn't a majority in China. It's purely about race and it's purely about "screw white people". Their ideas will never be applied consistency. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:888156367] in Why stop a... [t:75861446]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Ergo, I stand by my statement - if whitewashing is bad, so is minority-washing.</quote> Don't let him even fool to into thinking he thinks ratios or %s or numbers matter. The SJWs complained about Matt Damon being in The Great Wall, even though it was a Chinese film, by a Chinese writer, made for Chinese audiences, and Matt Damon(white) sure as fuck isn't a majority in China. It's purely about race and it's purely about "screw white people". Their ideas will never be applied consistency.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Knowledge_King 10/10/17 4:00:11 PM #58:	darkjedilink posted... Knowledge_King posted... darkjedilink posted... Knowledge_King posted... darkjedilink posted... If recasting minority characters as other races is bad, recasting white characters to minorities is just as bad. No it's not. You're literally ignoring the definition of the word "minority" and the context behind the change. How do you figure it's not? You have 20 tomatoes. John has 5. You steal 3 of John's tomatoes everywhere so he can only maintain 5 as you continue to grow in number. John takes 1 of your tomatoes. Is that as bad as you taking 3, aka 60% of his? Especially as you do it every year? No. Not by the numbers. Literally fake news. The diversity of Hollywood is very close to the diversity of America by racial percentages. http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/30000-hollywood-film-characters-heres-many-werent-white/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_the_United_States Ergo, I stand by my statement - if whitewashing is bad, so is minority-washing. Difference is, there are known instances of whitewashing entire movies. Literal statements of "Black movies don't sell" and recorded hesitance to have black people be the lead role in certain movies. Also was that study just characters, or lead characters? --- http://www.warwithwords.com He Who Leads: Global Ebook Award Winner:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CE0TLLM <cite>Knowledge_King posted [p:888179526] in Why stop a... [t:75861446]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Knowledge_King posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Knowledge_King posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>If recasting minority characters as other races is bad, recasting white characters to minorities is just as bad. </quote> No it's not. You're literally ignoring the definition of the word "minority" and the context behind the change.</quote> How do you figure it's not?</quote> You have 20 tomatoes. John has 5. You steal 3 of John's tomatoes everywhere so he can only maintain 5 as you continue to grow in number. John takes 1 of your tomatoes. Is that as bad as you taking 3, aka 60% of his? Especially as you do it every year? No. Not by the numbers.</quote> Literally fake news. The diversity of Hollywood is very close to the diversity of America by racial percentages. http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/30000-hollywood-film-characters-heres-many-werent-white/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_the_United_States Ergo, I stand by my statement - if whitewashing is bad, so is minority-washing.</quote> Difference is, there are known instances of whitewashing entire movies. Literal statements of "Black movies don't sell" and recorded hesitance to have black people be the lead role in certain movies. Also was that study just characters, or lead characters?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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