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St0rmFury
09/25/17 12:16:39 AM
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Why is that?
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Yaridovich
09/25/17 12:17:39 AM
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Because you touch yourself at night
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Butterfiles
09/25/17 12:18:06 AM
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because in your extremely narrow worldview you are sheltered from diversity of opinion
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09/25/17 12:18:13 AM
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Sayoria
09/25/17 12:21:09 AM
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Because people love being peasants and are submissive to the idea of an abusive government.
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TheoryzC
09/25/17 12:21:38 AM
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Change is scary
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darkjedilink
09/25/17 12:22:46 AM
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Sayoria posted...
Because people love being peasants and are submissive to the idea of an abusive government.

As though liberalism hasn't been on a recent kick of religious oppression, silencing dissent, censorship, and outright violent authoritarianism.
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Darmik
09/25/17 12:23:08 AM
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I dunno. I think it bounces back and forth but overall it gradually becomes more progressive as time goes on.
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Sayoria
09/25/17 12:24:57 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
Sayoria posted...
Because people love being peasants and are submissive to the idea of an abusive government.

As though liberalism hasn't been on a recent kick of religious oppression, silencing dissent, censorship, and outright violent authoritarianism.


As if I defended liberalism, but it's fun to believe the world is black and white.
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butthole666
09/25/17 12:25:58 AM
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I think it at least partially has to do with the internet/the way governments can control and keep tabs on information leaving its infancy. Now that they've gained a bit more control and developed mass surveillance better, the powers that be can be more overt about their 1984-tinged intentions.
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do_ob_tpkillr
09/25/17 12:26:11 AM
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Because liberalism is ruining everything with their fucking pissy SJW agendas. We need to reexamine ourselves, go back to our roots, rediscover our morals and find out what made us prosperous back then.
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St0rmFury
09/25/17 12:28:59 AM
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Darmik posted...
I dunno. I think it bounces back and forth but overall it gradually becomes more progressive as time goes on.

I didn't live long enough to experience this bounce I guess.
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Bat178
09/25/17 12:30:12 AM
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No, only the US and parts of Eastern Europe are. Unfortunately, the US is the most vocal country in the world and is still the only superpower...
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darkjedilink
09/25/17 12:45:36 AM
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Sayoria posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Sayoria posted...
Because people love being peasants and are submissive to the idea of an abusive government.

As though liberalism hasn't been on a recent kick of religious oppression, silencing dissent, censorship, and outright violent authoritarianism.

As if I defended liberalism, but it's fun to believe the world is black and white.

Defending liberalism is literally your thing.
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Sayoria
09/25/17 12:46:41 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
Sayoria posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Sayoria posted...
Because people love being peasants and are submissive to the idea of an abusive government.

As though liberalism hasn't been on a recent kick of religious oppression, silencing dissent, censorship, and outright violent authoritarianism.

As if I defended liberalism, but it's fun to believe the world is black and white.

Defending liberalism is literally your thing.


Uhh. no?

Why, because I believe in LGBT rights?
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Kineth
09/25/17 12:51:15 AM
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Sayoria posted...
Because people love being peasants and are submissive to the idea of an abusive government.


And they also lack the self-awareness of their own hypocritical attitudes as long as they get to shit on someone else, i.e. you and BLM.

So yeah, I'm sorta surprised that jedilink is literally shitting on someone who is an ally to him, but that's because you, yourself, are no one's ally other than your own.
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Darmik
09/25/17 12:55:58 AM
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St0rmFury posted...
Darmik posted...
I dunno. I think it bounces back and forth but overall it gradually becomes more progressive as time goes on.

I didn't live long enough to experience this bounce I guess.


Think how much gay rights have improved around the world in the past couple of decades. I think that's the most clear example of the world becoming less conservative about certain things.
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prince_leo
09/25/17 1:00:23 AM
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Darmik posted...
I dunno. I think it bounces back and forth but overall it gradually becomes more progressive as time goes on.

I agree with this
we're seeing an uptick in nationalism around the world, but it's still better than 50 years ago

I fully expect it to bounce back quickly, especially seeing how france and germany are rejecting trump/brexit
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Lordsai
09/25/17 1:10:11 AM
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I will not song to the false song of globalism.
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Sayoria
09/25/17 1:10:22 AM
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Kineth posted...
Sayoria posted...
Because people love being peasants and are submissive to the idea of an abusive government.


And they also lack the self-awareness of their own hypocritical attitudes as long as they get to shit on someone else, i.e. you and BLM.

So yeah, I'm sorta surprised that jedilink is literally shitting on someone who is an ally to him, but that's because you, yourself, are no one's ally other than your own.

I am an ally to freedom of speech and equal rights. They seem to clash these days and I am trying to bridge them back together.
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twitterfriends
09/25/17 1:15:48 AM
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Fear and ignorance mostly.
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GS4Life
09/25/17 1:20:42 AM
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I'd argue quite the opposite and quite frankly Trump isn't doing Conservatism any favors.

But Liberals definitely have their flaws, they bring up topics worth discussing and analyzing and working towards a better future but this demonizing of anyone who is religious, has pride in the US and it's history despite it's flaws and the history of racism that's more of an issue that all of humanity shares rather than solely US issue which it at least feels like people are trying to make it that way, and in extreme cases you get the Liberals who will defend rioting and dismiss minorities of any crime or wrong doing simply because of the color of their skins.

Pretty much the far left is crazy is just as crazy as the far right. If it makes me sound like a copout moderate fine whatever but I wish people weren't so stuck on their sides rather than just trying to make things better for people in general. One thing conservatives have done is pander to blue collar workers while Dems are often relying on identity politics. Now how much conservatives follow up their ethics is another question but Liberals are far, far, FAR away from being above hypocrisy unlike how much of the modern media likes to pretends it is.
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ImPickleRick
09/25/17 1:24:30 AM
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I side with whoever doesn't rely on violence to silence those they dislike.
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teepan95
09/25/17 1:26:55 AM
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prince_leo posted...
Darmik posted...
I dunno. I think it bounces back and forth but overall it gradually becomes more progressive as time goes on.

I agree with this
we're seeing an uptick in nationalism around the world, but it's still better than 50 years ago

I fully expect it to bounce back quickly, especially seeing how france and germany are rejecting trump/brexit

Germany has a far-right party in the Bundestag for the first time since that unpleasantness around 1939
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Turtlebread
09/25/17 1:27:35 AM
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Lordsai posted...
I will not song to the false song of globalism.


lol
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TrollSlayer11
09/25/17 1:28:04 AM
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Sayoria posted...
Because people love being peasants and are submissive to the idea of an abusive government.


LOL. Liberals suck the government's dick and love enforcing authoritarianism to silence people they don't like and to make sure nobody has the "wrong opinion". People can't even speak freely these days without getting doxxed and getting fired for "wrong-think" AKA anti-liberal beliefs.
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Bio1590
09/25/17 1:29:37 AM
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do_ob_tpkillr posted...
Because liberalism is ruining everything with their fucking pissy SJW agendas. We need to reexamine ourselves, go back to our roots, rediscover our morals and find out what made us prosperous back then.

By “Back then” do you mean like when black people were ownable property?
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Suikoden
09/25/17 1:32:58 AM
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ImPickleRick posted...
I side with whoever doesn't rely on violence to silence those they dislike.


i guess you're not siding w/ anyone then lmao
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ImPickleRick
09/25/17 1:39:48 AM
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Suikoden posted...
ImPickleRick posted...
I side with whoever doesn't rely on violence to silence those they dislike.


i guess you're not siding w/ anyone then lmao

Does that mean you agree with Trumps message that there is violence on both sides?
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Darmik
09/25/17 1:41:27 AM
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ImPickleRick posted...
Suikoden posted...
ImPickleRick posted...
I side with whoever doesn't rely on violence to silence those they dislike.


i guess you're not siding w/ anyone then lmao

Does that mean you agree with Trumps message that there is violence on both sides?


Who are the both sides?
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Sayoria
09/25/17 1:48:17 AM
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TrollSlayer11 posted...
Sayoria posted...
Because people love being peasants and are submissive to the idea of an abusive government.


LOL. Liberals suck the government's dick and love enforcing authoritarianism to silence people they don't like and to make sure nobody has the "wrong opinion". People can't even speak freely these days without getting doxxed and getting fired for "wrong-think" AKA anti-liberal beliefs.


Far goal of liberalism is anarchy through demands of victimization reparations.
Far goal of conservatism is authoritarianism through religion.

Both sides are shit and you know it.
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Mal_Fet
09/25/17 1:49:18 AM
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Sayoria posted...
Far goal of liberalism is anarchy through demands of victimization reparations.
Far goal of conservatism is authoritarianism through religion.

Both sides are shit and you know it.

I would argue true liberalism that was followed by Thomas Paine and John Locke is about neither of those things
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ImPickleRick
09/25/17 1:53:42 AM
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This is the true face of liberalism, WORSHIP IT

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Sayoria
09/25/17 1:54:10 AM
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Mal_Fet posted...
Sayoria posted...
Far goal of liberalism is anarchy through demands of victimization reparations.
Far goal of conservatism is authoritarianism through religion.

Both sides are shit and you know it.

I would argue true liberalism that was followed by Thomas Paine and John Locke is about neither of those things


Well, I speak of current day sides. If we go extreme one way or the other, this is what would happen. I believe wholeheartedly that both sides have moved far from what their parties stand for anymore. It's a not-so-civil war. It should be one group on one side of the table and the other on the other side. This cutthroat environment we are in right now is dangerous for the nation. Very dangerous.
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Sayoria
09/25/17 1:55:26 AM
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ImPickleRick posted...
This is the true face of liberalism, WORSHIP IT



I never report people unless they do that. Congrats, I have reported you. I have given you no permission. Take that down.
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Lightsasori
09/25/17 1:55:36 AM
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Nah, if anything the western culture is much more progressive than it once was, especially things like interracial and gay marriage. When it comes to economic viewpoints, it's always going to bounce back and forth however depending on how our economy turns out.
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ImPickleRick
09/25/17 1:58:52 AM
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Sayoria posted...
ImPickleRick posted...
This is the true face of liberalism, WORSHIP IT



I never report people unless they do that. Congrats, I have reported you. I have given you no permission. Take that down.

??? That's me. I can post pictures of myself if I want.
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Suikoden
09/25/17 1:59:31 AM
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@ImPickleRick you're a fucking creep dude
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LethalAffinity
09/25/17 2:00:03 AM
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The pendulum has always swung back and forth. In a decade or two we'll be back to Liberalism.
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St0rmFury
09/25/17 2:00:14 AM
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ImPickleRick posted...
Sayoria posted...
ImPickleRick posted...
This is the true face of liberalism, WORSHIP IT



I never report people unless they do that. Congrats, I have reported you. I have given you no permission. Take that down.

??? That's me. I can post pictures of myself if I want.

Altception.
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Zack_Attackv1
09/25/17 2:14:06 AM
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*continues whistling and throwing peace signs like Christopher Walken in Batman Returns*
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MuayThai85
09/25/17 2:17:35 AM
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Extremism, specifically Islamic extremism hasn't helped. That shit scares people, then they don't want anyone from that group in their communities and it just spreads to the way things are going now.
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ImPickleRick
09/25/17 2:25:34 AM
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MuayThai85 posted...
Extremism, specifically Islamic extremism hasn't helped. That shit scares people, then they don't want anyone from that group in their communities and it just spreads to the way things are going now.

You seen the UK lately?
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Doom_Art
09/25/17 2:36:47 AM
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Where besides the US is moving towards conservatism?

Canada: Liberals hold a majority government and consistently hold that majority in polling

UK: The current conservative government is quite unpopular and lost its majority in the last election

France: The Republican candidate didn't even make it to the run-off, and the other right wing candidate was beaten in a landslide

Germany: I mean read the news today. Merkel is center-right but I'd hesitate to call her or her party conservatives

The Netherlands: The far right party under-performed in the last election

Mexico: The IRP seems to be topping opinion polling to return to power

Sweden: Social Dems seem to be popular (thanks BalanceLost)

Those are the only countries whose politics I've really followed


As I said before I'd hesitate to say the US is moving towards conservatism. A lot of qualities of Trump's campaign were not conservative, strictly speaking, the public backlash to a lot of his and congress' actions since entering office, as well as the resulting general inability of either of them to take action on any significant policy issues makes me question things.

Were the US actually significantly moving farther to the right, I'd think Trump and congress would've had a stronger mandate.
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Kineth
09/25/17 2:46:23 AM
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Sayoria posted...
Kineth posted...
Sayoria posted...
Because people love being peasants and are submissive to the idea of an abusive government.


And they also lack the self-awareness of their own hypocritical attitudes as long as they get to shit on someone else, i.e. you and BLM.

So yeah, I'm sorta surprised that jedilink is literally shitting on someone who is an ally to him, but that's because you, yourself, are no one's ally other than your own.

I am an ally to freedom of speech and equal rights. They seem to clash these days and I am trying to bridge them back together.


That doesn't disprove what I said, especially since I was referring to human allies.
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Kaname_Madoka
09/25/17 2:47:48 AM
#47:


Lordsai posted...
I will not song to the false song of globalism.

Ayy
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SpoonRebooted
09/25/17 3:19:50 AM
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I think that the biggest problem is that quite a few people are under the impression that it's two distinct, narrow, separate sides, with nothing in between. There is a lot of gray area between them, and most people fall into the gray area, but many won't admit it, even to themselves.
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Sayoria
09/25/17 7:54:35 AM
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ImPickleRick posted...
Sayoria posted...
ImPickleRick posted...
This is the true face of liberalism, WORSHIP IT



I never report people unless they do that. Congrats, I have reported you. I have given you no permission. Take that down.

??? That's me. I can post pictures of myself if I want.


You aren't funny, bucko.
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Antifar
09/25/17 8:28:09 AM
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do_ob_tpkillr posted...
Because liberalism is ruining everything with their fucking pissy SJW agendas. We need to reexamine ourselves, go back to our roots, rediscover our morals and find out what made us prosperous back then.

Unions?
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Antifar
09/25/17 8:30:06 AM
#51:


TrollSlayer11 posted...
Liberals suck the government's dick and love enforcing authoritarianism to silence people they don't like and to make sure nobody has the "wrong opinion". People can't even speak freely these days without getting doxxed and getting fired for "wrong-think"

This is a weird post on the fourth day of the president calling for the firing of players who protest police brutality
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