Current Events > Is it true that Catholics aren't actually Christians?

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My baptist preacher made it very clear in one of his sermons that Catholics aren't true Christians. They're just a sort of cult that worships Mary and just thinks they're Christians. They also like dressing up little boys in skirts and making them prance around.

Is this true? I've never known any different since my family has always been Baptist. :u The other topic got me thinking though.
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It's something a lot of stupid people believe because they're stupid and when they stick their finger up their butthole it feels nice.

considering she added in that weird last part should be all you need to know she is biased and spreading bullshit. alot of protestants hate catholics. but catholics are christians. there are many misconceptions on what catholism is about. they don't worship Mary. they only worship Jesus and God

Funny a Baptist priest telling you that Catholics aren't true Christians.
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Catholicism itself has a major foundation built on a lot of pagan tradition and worship.

Doesn't surprise me people don't classify it as Christianity.

tote_all posted...

What's a baptist?

This video lays out the difference between Baptists and Catholics:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdDC7NP1Cig
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I'm Catholic.
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BalisticWarri0r posted...

Catholicism itself has a major foundation built on a lot of pagan tradition and worship.

it's still not true paganism though. I know. I used to consider myself a pagan for an entire decade. Catholicism may have some rituals that come from pagan religions, but it's still focused solely on Jesus. Otherwise I never would have felt the need to switch to Paganism after having been raised a Catholic

JohnLennon6 posted...

I'm Catholic.

explains a lot to be honest, if what I've heard is true. do you really confess all your lurid secrets in a tiny closet while a man listens on the other side?
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Eh, some of their practices simply do not align with what the Bible states that Christians should or should not do, but technically they still are since they believe in God and kinda follow the Bible?
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I honestly don't know enough about Catholic teachings to have an opinion worth listening to, but even though I think that the amount of importance they seem to put on the pope combined with the way they used to discourage the laity drom reading scripture (didn't this change a decade or do ago) are pretty bad signs, they still definitely follow Jesus' teachings.
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I've actually only ever done Confession once. when I was like 12. It was First Confession. and it ended up being my last. I never wanted to do it again. according to teachings I am supposed to though. if you want to see a portrayel of Confession watch Netflix's Daredevil. Matt Murdock (Daredevil) is Catholic and very religious .and there are a bunch of times on the show where he goes to confession and it shows it on screen

It's sad how anti-Catholicism is still deeply ingrained in American culture.

I see this shit from both Protestants and the irreligious.
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DevsBro posted...

discourage the laity drom reading scripture (didn't this change a decade or do ago

unless I am misunderstanding what you mean, that changed centuries ago. not a decade ago

I mean I don't want to be anti-Catholic as well, but they do believe in some bizarre shit like how the Eucharist and Wine is literally the body and blood of Jesus Christ, so yes apparently in their religion they're cannibals. Not to mention a lot of their traditions are based off from paganism (which would make sense, I mean it's kind of like multiculturalism where you adopt certain things you like and make it your thing). But some of their theology goes against a lot of what the bible teaches.

Then again I used to be kind of in the same position as TC, I was raised Southern Baptist and we were taught that Catholics weren't true Christians. But that itself is subjective and to me as long as you believe in the holy trinity (which is another thing that doesn't really make sense) and that Jesus is God, I consider you a Christian.
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JohnLennon6 posted...

It's sad how anti-Catholicism is still deeply ingrained in American culture.

I see this shit from both Protestants and the irreligious.

the early settlers were protestant. and in later eras, most of the time catholics were immigrants from poor countries and despised.

Is it true that Baptists picket dead soldiers funerals with signs that says "God hates ....?"
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DirkDiggles posted...

Is it true that Baptists picket dead soldiers funerals with signs that says "God hates ....?"

Yep. They claim that God hates America and gay people.
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unless I am misunderstanding what you mean, that changed centuries ago. not a decade ago

Well that's good. I seem to remember something like that about ten years ago. Must be something else.
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Jesus was a witness to stuff that wasn't kosher in Jerusalem.

Yeah I think a lot of the bad blood between Protestants and Catholics had to do with how Americans view immigrants back then. A lot of the immigrants were Catholics and were looked down upon because they were lower class (which makes sense, I mean thats one of the primary reasons to came to America was to search for a better life).
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BalisticWarri0r posted...

Catholicism itself has a major foundation built on a lot of pagan tradition and worship.

Doesn't surprise me people don't classify it as Christianity.

This is a good thing
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DirkDiggles posted...

Is it true that Baptists picket dead soldiers funerals with signs that says "God hates ....?"

That's the Westboro Baptist Church, they're their own thing.
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Zikten posted...

BalisticWarri0r posted...

Catholicism itself has a major foundation built on a lot of pagan tradition and worship.

it's still not true paganism though. I know. I used to consider myself a pagan for an entire decade. Catholicism may have some rituals that come from pagan religions, but it's still focused solely on Jesus. Otherwise I never would have felt the need to switch to Paganism after having been raised a Catholic

It's not true paganism, but the fact that it's so heavily engrained in its tradition I would consider a red flag. A great many pagan gods were renamed as saints of the Catholic church to appease the masses during the rise of the 1st century church. I don't doubt that catholicism falls into the ranks of Christianity, but the church fails to adhere to standards that Christ himself put out.

BalisticWarri0r posted...

Zikten posted...

BalisticWarri0r posted...

Catholicism itself has a major foundation built on a lot of pagan tradition and worship.

it's still not true paganism though. I know. I used to consider myself a pagan for an entire decade. Catholicism may have some rituals that come from pagan religions, but it's still focused solely on Jesus. Otherwise I never would have felt the need to switch to Paganism after having been raised a Catholic

the church fails to adhere to standards that Christ himself put out.

The same could be said about all religions.
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JohnLennon6 posted...

BalisticWarri0r posted...

Zikten posted...

BalisticWarri0r posted...

Catholicism itself has a major foundation built on a lot of pagan tradition and worship.

it's still not true paganism though. I know. I used to consider myself a pagan for an entire decade. Catholicism may have some rituals that come from pagan religions, but it's still focused solely on Jesus. Otherwise I never would have felt the need to switch to Paganism after having been raised a Catholic

the church fails to adhere to standards that Christ himself put out.

The same could be said about all religions.

True. But we aren't talking about them, we are talking about Catholicism.

A bunch of those "pagan" texts weren't saying shit. Probably just as smart as modern religion, which is "SJWs for conservatives". There's a type of book that's "gnostic", that Rome didn't include when they made the Christian Bible. They were more conceptual. Some of the "virgin birth" type stuff was taking the wrong thing from it. They were more of a folklore, existential hybrid

Basically the TC's preacher is pretending everything religious = fact.
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Don't Christianity comes from Catholicism?
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Stick_1_2_3 posted...

Don't Christianity comes from Catholicism?

Protestantism did, a lot of orthodoxy is as old or older (like coptics)
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Catholics were the first church. They are the church of Jesus Christ. All the splinter groups are really just groups like the Anglicans who didn't like the rule about divorce so created their own church.

Anyways. To be a Christian you believe in Christ. So yes obviously catholics are Christians.
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JohnLennon6 posted...

The same could be said about all religions.

But enough talk, have at you!
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OpheliaAdenade posted...

JohnLennon6 posted...

I'm Catholic.

explains a lot to be honest, if what I've heard is true. do you really confess all your lurid secrets in a tiny closet while a man listens on the other side?

The option for face to face confession has been around for a few decades now.
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tote_all posted...

Terra-enforcer posted...

Eh, some of their practices simply do not align with what the Bible states that Christians should or should not do, but technically they still are since they believe in God and kinda follow the Bible?

How the fuck is that your argument?

Catholics are Christians because they believe in Christ.

Really not that hard.

You must not know a lot about Christianity if you think that's all the religion entails according to the Bible in any way other than a technical sense. I also literally said "technically" for the same reason that you did, so your comment doesn't even make any sense as I acknowledged that.
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