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Virus731
09/18/17 5:09:03 PM
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Probably lose my license for 6 months. I don't know how it is in the States, but they can detect weed up to 3-7 days after smoking it so even if you're not high you still get charged with being intoxicated. It's pretty horseshit. Just one thing after another in this shitty month of September.
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GODTIER
09/18/17 5:31:47 PM
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You were high on weed?

How are the cops supposed to prove that in court?

The DA is gonna ask you to plead, tell him to fuck off if they don't have any real evidence
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Fin_Dawg_004
09/18/17 5:33:03 PM
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what backwards ass country are you in tc?
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GODTIER
09/18/17 5:34:08 PM
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Oh you're not in America, home of the free

They're going to chop your hands off TC
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Virus731
09/18/17 5:34:51 PM
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GODTIER posted...
You were high on weed?

How are the cops supposed to prove that in court?

The DA is gonna ask you to plead, tell him to fuck off if they don't have any real evidence


I wasn't high at the time, but it was in my system. It also wasn't the only thing in my system, but I hadn't taken anything in over 24 hours. I think they take the sample to a lab and determine what you were actually on and how much, but it's an automatic loss of license for me regardless. Just a bummer, I got 13 hours sleep and made sure to breathalyze myself before I drove out.
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GODTIER
09/18/17 5:35:25 PM
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Virus731 posted...
GODTIER posted...
You were high on weed?

How are the cops supposed to prove that in court?

The DA is gonna ask you to plead, tell him to fuck off if they don't have any real evidence


I wasn't high at the time, but it was in my system. It also wasn't the only thing in my system, but I hadn't taken anything in over 24 hours. I think they take the sample to a lab and determine what you were actually on and how much, but it's an automatic loss of license for me regardless. Just a bummer, I got 13 hours sleep and made sure to breathalyze myself before I drove out.



What the fuck
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Virus731
09/18/17 5:36:37 PM
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GODTIER posted...
What the fuck


It's how it works here. I tested positive for drugs and most likely the judge will go hard on me because even though it was trace amounts, I did a lot of drugs the two days before.

tote_all posted...
Virus731 posted...
Probably lose my license for 6 months. I don't know how it is in the States, but they can detect weed up to 3-7 days after smoking it so even if you're not high you still get charged with being intoxicated. It's pretty horseshit. Just one thing after another in this shitty month of September.


Why are we not getting the full story? Where you high? Why were you stopped ?


Wasn't high, had 13 hours of sleep. Driving out from a festival they set up a road block.
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GODTIER
09/18/17 5:37:03 PM
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Virus731 posted...
GODTIER posted...
What the fuck


It's how it works here. I tested positive for drugs and most likely the judge will go hard on me because even though it was trace amounts, I did a lot of drugs the two days before.


Where do you live
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Virus731
09/18/17 5:38:03 PM
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GODTIER posted...
Where do you live


Australia.
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voldothegr8
09/18/17 5:44:38 PM
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What were you pulled over for in the first place? What led them to believe you were driving under the influence?
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Virus731
09/18/17 5:46:15 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
What were you pulled over for in the first place? What led them to believe you were driving under the influence?


It was a 3 day festival just outside of a country town. They set up road blocks and just stop people at random. First they breathalyzed me, which I passed, then they scraped my tongue. Tongue scrape came up positive and then they have a mini-lab to do a second test in their truck.
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Virus731
09/18/17 5:51:17 PM
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tote_all posted...
Virus731 posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
What were you pulled over for in the first place? What led them to believe you were driving under the influence?


It was a 3 day festival just outside of a country town. They set up road blocks and just stop people at random. First they breathalyzed me, which I passed, then they scraped my tongue. Tongue scrape came up positive and then they have a mini-lab to do a second test in their truck.


So fair, next.


Didn't say it wasn't fair, it's a matter of opinion how long someone is intoxicated and they've drawn the line. Still, doesn't mean I was intoxicated.
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GODTIER
09/18/17 5:54:49 PM
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tote_all posted...
Virus731 posted...
it's a matter of opinion how long someone is intoxicated


For fuck's sake, no it is not. Smarter men with far more knowledge and studies behind them decided the threshold, and some random drug users who thinks it's "subjective" is not going to change that just because he's mad he got caught.



Yeah because cops are 100% honest
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Forlorn_Ass
09/18/17 5:57:02 PM
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Australia
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electricbugs2
09/18/17 5:58:25 PM
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Forlorn_Ass posted...
Australia

Yeah, nothing more needs to be said than this.
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Virus731
09/18/17 5:58:53 PM
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tote_all posted...
For fuck's sake, no it is not. Smarter men with far more knowledge and studies behind them decided the threshold, and some random drug users who thinks it's "subjective" is not going to change that just because he's mad he got caught.


ok so weed and mdma last for 24 hours with 13 hours of sleep in there


riiiiiiiiiiiiiight
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GODTIER
09/18/17 5:59:27 PM
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So standars for intoxication (which means you are a danger to others) should be... what? Changed? Ignored? Because some cops lie?

Did you even think before posting this?


TC said he wasn't high. Why would he lie to us?
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--kresnik--
09/18/17 6:02:54 PM
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Their drug laws are so fucked up that they couldn't even play fallout.
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frozenshock
09/18/17 6:23:28 PM
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Well, if you took weed the day before you're driving, you're no longer under the effect of weed even if it can still be detected in your system. So it's pretty fucked up.

The Australia government apparently is saying that cannabis can be detected after 12 hours, but it appears that this may be WRONG and that people have tested positive after weeks.

Read this:

DAVID MARK: A NSW magistrate has criticised the State Government's roadside drug testing program, and its advice that cannabis can only be detected up to 12 hours after use.

The Lismore magistrate David Heilpern says he has heard hundreds of cases in the past few months which contradict that advice.

He says people claim they've been caught for drug driving in some cases weeks after they say they had last smoked cannabis. He describes the state's drug testing regime as "mysterious and uncertain by design".


http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2016/s4418268.htm

TC might well be a completely innocent victim here. I'd hire a lawyer.
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frozenshock
09/18/17 6:27:52 PM
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tote_all posted...
frozenshock posted...
people claim


lolok


Not once has any scientific evidence been produced to this court that supports the contention that the final or any other test only works for 12 hours. It could be that every single one of those defendants are lying to police. However, on balance, I find that this is unlikely.


That's a judge speaking.
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Virus731
09/18/17 7:00:02 PM
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tote_all posted...
Can you link me to sources that state otherwise?

Are you claiming the test was a false positive?



I never said false positive. I'm saying the drugs are in your system long after the effects wear off so it's kind of a bullshit law.
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gatorsPENSbucs
09/18/17 7:04:16 PM
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It's bullshit because you could have smoked 20 days before that day and still tested positive. One of the main bummers about weed. Depending on usage and what not, that shit can stay in your system for a long ass time. That's why losing your license and dealing with all of that is a crock of shit.
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The_Russians
09/18/17 7:09:48 PM
#29:


tote_all posted...
Virus731 posted...
ok so weed and mdma last for 24 hours with 13 hours of sleep in there


riiiiiiiiiiiiiight


Can you link me to sources that state otherwise?

Are you claiming the test was a false positive?

GODTIER posted...
So standars for intoxication (which means you are a danger to others) should be... what? Changed? Ignored? Because some cops lie?

Did you even think before posting this?


TC said he wasn't high. Why would he lie to us?


http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/562/544/0b4.jpg


Are you suggesting he was still high? Because if that's the case, TC and I have got to get together and talk about this dank af weed that fucks you for 13+ hours, and where one might theoretically obtain some.
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electricbugs2
09/18/17 7:30:54 PM
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The_Russians posted...
Are you suggesting he was still high? Because if that's the case, TC and I have got to get together and talk about this dank af weed that fucks you for 13+ hours, and where one might theoretically obtain some.

Also, gawt damn this lmao.
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thronedfire2
09/18/17 7:32:33 PM
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Yeah you definitely weren't still high from mdma a whole day after if that's what you took and you slept

I did molly once that I'm pretty sure was just straight meth and I was still feeling it like 20 hours later
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CanuckCowboy
09/18/17 7:51:45 PM
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tote_all posted...
Virus731 posted...
it's a matter of opinion how long someone is intoxicated


For fuck's sake, no it is not. Smarter men with far more knowledge and studies behind them decided the threshold, and some random drug users who thinks it's "subjective" is not going to change that just because he's mad he got caught.


Yes. It is subjective. Factually on all levels.

They're debating that very issue currently as Canada gets ready for legal weed. There's absolutely no agreement or objective decision as to the length one remains impaired for.

And it's not the same for different people either. It's an extrmely murky issue as it stands now.
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BlackHorse6969
09/18/17 7:52:35 PM
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dont do the time if you cant do the crime
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1NfamousACE_2
09/18/17 7:54:36 PM
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Only in Murica
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Axiom
09/18/17 7:55:46 PM
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electricbugs2 posted...
The_Russians posted...
Are you suggesting he was still high? Because if that's the case, TC and I have got to get together and talk about this dank af weed that fucks you for 13+ hours, and where one might theoretically obtain some.

Also, gawt damn this lmao.
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assassinCrash
09/18/17 7:58:34 PM
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BlackHorse6969 posted...
dont do the time if you cant do the crime


Hahahahaha
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sktgamer_13dude
09/18/17 7:58:54 PM
#37:


tote_all posted...
Virus731 posted...
ok so weed and mdma last for 24 hours with 13 hours of sleep in there


riiiiiiiiiiiiiight


Can you link me to sources that state otherwise?

Are you claiming the test was a false positive?

GODTIER posted...
So standars for intoxication (which means you are a danger to others) should be... what? Changed? Ignored? Because some cops lie?

Did you even think before posting this?


TC said he wasn't high. Why would he lie to us?


http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/562/544/0b4.jpg

Are you claiming that weed affects you past 12+ hours after injesting?

Because you can fail piss/hair tests for weed weeks after you last take it because it stays in your system for awhile. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
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DrizztLink
09/18/17 7:59:44 PM
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GODTIER posted...
You were high

on WEED?!

ftfy
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Buzz Killjoy
09/18/17 8:04:18 PM
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Sounds pretty bunk. Why wouldn't the cops just bust people for drugs at the festival instead of passively trying to catch them afterward? Seems cowardly.

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frozenshock
09/18/17 8:12:19 PM
#40:


Buzz Killjoy posted...
Sounds pretty bunk. Why wouldn't the cops just bust people for drugs at the festival instead of passively trying to catch them afterward? Seems cowardly.


Because then they can get them for driving under influence
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Capn Circus
09/18/17 8:18:59 PM
#41:


Virus731 posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
What were you pulled over for in the first place? What led them to believe you were driving under the influence?


It was a 3 day festival just outside of a country town. They set up road blocks and just stop people at random. First they breathalyzed me, which I passed, then they scraped my tongue. Tongue scrape came up positive and then they have a mini-lab to do a second test in their truck.


I have no idea how the laws work there, but, did they say they suspected you of being under the influence and that is why they decided to breathalyze you and give you a tongue scrape? Would you have had the right to decline? If so, what would the consequences have been for declining?

Unless you took other drugs (which I think you mentioned) that still made your eyes/demeanor suspicious even after the sleep---then I'd say it would be odd they'd selectively choose you and not others, unless they force everyone to take a breathalyzer/tongue scrape. Why was it you?

They do know everyone is coming from some festival where drug use is likely prevalent, so whoever they chose would likely fail their tests. But why was it you?
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Lonestar2000
09/18/17 8:26:58 PM
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Did they have any probable cause to make you take a breathalyzer?
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09/18/17 8:29:26 PM
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tripZ504
09/18/17 9:56:57 PM
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No set time weed stays in your system. Everyone is different and there is no test to pin point an exact time you last had it.

Ive passed tests after 2 months of not smoking. My life insurance requires a drug test every 3 years.

Not sure how Australia law goes but most likely be thrown out. Id sugggest get a lawyer.

I had a friend fail a breathalyzer from eating to much pizza. He had one put in his car and quit drinking when he got caught.
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sktgamer_13dude
09/19/17 1:23:13 AM
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tripZ504 posted...
No set time weed stays in your system. Everyone is different and there is no test to pin point an exact time you last had it.

Ive passed tests after 2 months of not smoking. My life insurance requires a drug test every 3 years.

Not sure how Australia law goes but most likely be thrown out. Id sugggest get a lawyer.

I had a friend fail a breathalyzer from eating to much pizza. He had one put in his car and quit drinking when he got caught.

Weed normally is out of most people's systems within 10-20ish days iirc. It depends on how much fat you have and how much you smoke, as it's fat soluble (which is why people make edibles with butter/oil). It'll also stay in your hair for much longer if they really want to get people.

Again, I highly doubt TC failed because he was high atm, but idk much about MDMA. I know that you'd have to have some crazy stuff like high powered edibles for weed to last more than a couple hours, so he likely wasn't pulled aside at the checkpoint for that.
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WesternMedia
09/21/17 12:21:06 AM
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Fair, next
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