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Omega Hunter 09/18/17 2:05:12 PM #51: |
The Admiral posted...
Omega Hunter posted...Who cares if he is a criminal. Now say all of that to the black man arrested in the 60s because he refused to give up his seat on the bus. It would all apply just the same. And just like the Nazi puncher we should commend them for the sacrifice. --- Living is naturally hell, you have to work to put a smile on. http://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/7_ugmpjq.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 09/18/17 2:05:32 PM #52: |
The Great Muta 22 posted...
By the way Addy, who don't you stop pulling punches and using thug when we all know you want to drop the N word You punch a man in the face and knock him out when he isn't threatening you, you're a thug. If you think that's a racial thing, might want to work on your inner racist instincts. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tezlok 09/18/17 2:05:33 PM #53: |
Bishop9800 posted...
No you wasn't. A mod even told you, that you was making racist statements. But hey, keep denying that mods aren't gods. they made the same mistake you did. just cause you think I said something racist doesn't mean I did. I know my own brain and my own heart. I don't hate people based on their race. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tezlok 09/18/17 2:06:35 PM #54: |
DrizztLink posted...
Tezlok posted...DrizztLink posted...Tezlok posted...DrizztLink posted...Oh hey I'm still perfectly alright with punching someone who espouses an ideology that would like to see me dead. the one thing I'm talking about is physical violence. you failed to bring up a retort to that, and instead just mentioned a bunch of other crap. we are talking about if people should be allowed to sucker punch people they disagree with ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 09/18/17 2:06:51 PM #55: |
Omega Hunter posted...
Now say all of that to the black man arrested in the 60s because he refused to give up his seat on the bus. It's unsurprising that you can't defend this without making fallacious analogies to the Civil Rights movement. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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jayj420 09/18/17 2:06:51 PM #56: |
DrizztLink posted...
Oh hey I'm still perfectly alright with punching someone who espouses an ideology that would like to see me dead. Yeah it's like if you are going to stand by an ideology that demonizes me and tries to target me aggressively just for being a minority, I say to hell with you. It's time to stop being nice when you encounter people like that, who seek the power to kill you with. --- "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Omega Hunter 09/18/17 2:07:21 PM #57: |
FantomPayne posted...
Omega Hunter posted...In our society the check and balance on the law is a jury, in a moral society no jury would convict someone of assaulting a Nazi. Go put a woman on trial for murder after she kills a husband who has abused her for 20 years, good luck getting that conviction. --- Living is naturally hell, you have to work to put a smile on. http://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/7_ugmpjq.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fin_Dawg_004 09/18/17 2:07:28 PM #58: |
satisfying post, will watch again.
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ReignFury 09/18/17 2:07:34 PM #59: |
Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
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That_Happened 09/18/17 2:08:05 PM #61: |
Tezlok posted...
the one thing I'm talking about is physical violence. you failed to bring up a retort to that, and instead just mentioned a bunch of other crap. we are talking about if people should be allowed to sucker punch people they disagree with No. It's not about "people who disagree with me." If someone got punched for thinking it was wrong to raise taxes, or to allow gay marriage, then we'd all be siding with the man who was assaulted. But if people want to assault someone who flat out says their belief is "you should be killed," then no sympathy should be given to that person. Quit trying to make it about simple disagreement. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bishop9800 09/18/17 2:08:15 PM #62: |
Tezlok posted...
Bishop9800 posted...No you wasn't. A mod even told you, that you was making racist statements. But hey, keep denying that You made a racist topic. Plain and simple. Now you want to say, we all took it the wrong way. Whatever you want to tell yourself --- I don't have to insult you. I have proven that you are a hypocrite and a fool. That's not insulting you, that's exposing you. PSN-Bishop9800 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tezlok 09/18/17 2:09:13 PM #63: |
That_Happened posted...
Tezlok posted...the one thing I'm talking about is physical violence. you failed to bring up a retort to that, and instead just mentioned a bunch of other crap. we are talking about if people should be allowed to sucker punch people they disagree with no because they have the right to say it without being attacked. only if they do something about it, can you attack them. in america it is illegal to punch someone cause of words ... Copied to Clipboard!
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jayj420 09/18/17 2:09:22 PM #64: |
BLAKUboy posted...
You know what I don't get? We send an entire generation to shoot Nazis, and we call them the Greatest Generation. And now suddenly it's not okay to punch Nazis? You can thank Donald Trump for that one. --- "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 09/18/17 2:09:24 PM #65: |
Tezlok posted...
DrizztLink posted...Tezlok posted...DrizztLink posted...Tezlok posted...DrizztLink posted...Oh hey I'm still perfectly alright with punching someone who espouses an ideology that would like to see me dead. If they're literally a Nazi? Sure. If they're literally a terrorist? Sure. We've actually gone to war over these things. Pretty sure taking a punch is a lighter punishment than having a Tomahawk missile destroy your entire apartment building. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thelovefist 09/18/17 2:10:00 PM #66: |
Ok serious question - Why do people think that saying hitting this person is wrong means that you're defending Nazism?
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Tezlok 09/18/17 2:10:12 PM #67: |
Bishop9800 posted...
You made a racist topic. Plain and simple. Now you want to say, we all took it the wrong way. Whatever you want to tell yourself I didn't. whatever you want to tell yourself though. look, your a stranger. I shouldn't care what you think. I know myself. I am not a racist. you can believe it or not. I'm never going to stop saying it because it's true. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 09/18/17 2:10:43 PM #68: |
thelovefist posted...
Ok serious question - Why do people think that saying hitting this person is wrong means that you're defending Nazism? That sounds better than saying they support criminality and unprovoked violence. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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jayj420 09/18/17 2:11:22 PM #69: |
That_Happened posted...
Tezlok posted...the one thing I'm talking about is physical violence. you failed to bring up a retort to that, and instead just mentioned a bunch of other crap. we are talking about if people should be allowed to sucker punch people they disagree with Exactly. If you threaten people's existence, a sucker punch is getting off easy. --- "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bishop9800 09/18/17 2:11:45 PM #70: |
Tezlok posted...
Bishop9800 posted...You made a racist topic. Plain and simple. Now you want to say, we all took it the wrong way. Whatever you want to tell yourself But the mods say you made a racist statement. So who am I going to believe. Them or you? --- I don't have to insult you. I have proven that you are a hypocrite and a fool. That's not insulting you, that's exposing you. PSN-Bishop9800 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fin_Dawg_004 09/18/17 2:12:19 PM #71: |
in that video there were fine people on both sides
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Taharqa_ 09/18/17 2:13:14 PM #72: |
Man that guy was put to sleep.
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DrizztLink 09/18/17 2:13:17 PM #73: |
The Admiral posted...
unprovoked violence I know you just like Jews because you get to bone a bunch of Jewish girls on J-date or whatever, but you don't really understand what its like to see people marching around flying insignias that literally mean "We want you and your family and everyone like you to burn." --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Looked gf 09/18/17 2:13:27 PM #74: |
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FantomPayne 09/18/17 2:13:34 PM #75: |
Omega Hunter posted...
Go put a woman on trial for murder after she kills a husband who has abused her for 20 years, good luck getting that conviction. Now you are comparing punching Nazis to battered women. Pick a horse to ride on already and stop with the stupid analogies. You know damn well that there is a huge difference between the two. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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jayj420 09/18/17 2:13:43 PM #76: |
thelovefist posted...
Ok serious question - Why do people think that saying hitting this person is wrong means that you're defending Nazism? Because in this case you are... You are basically trying to imply that we should accept nazism. --- "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Forlorn_Ass 09/18/17 2:14:30 PM #77: |
One dude committed physical violence, the other guy did not. Therefor the Nazi is actually the better person than that POS.
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The Admiral 09/18/17 2:14:50 PM #78: |
DrizztLink posted...
The Admiral posted...unprovoked violence It means there are shitty people in this world, which I already knew. As long as those disgusting thoughts and words remain thoughts and words, I don't especially care what those losers do. If it becomes more than words, by all means, use the necessary violence and the legal system to bring the hammer down on them. Until then, you're in the wrong for initiating violence over hurt feelings. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Freddie_Mercury 09/18/17 2:14:58 PM #79: |
rare vid of sarm and admiral during a debate
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MikeArmstrong 09/18/17 2:15:23 PM #80: |
Freddie_Mercury posted...
rare vid of sarm and admiral during a debate Oh shit!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Omega Hunter 09/18/17 2:15:30 PM #81: |
The Admiral posted...
Omega Hunter posted...Now say all of that to the black man arrested in the 60s because he refused to give up his seat on the bus. There is nothing fallacious about it. These are two examples of people breaking the law to stand up for what they believe in and suffering the consequences. I call that a hero. Funny part is how time changes everything in the 40s we were giving medals out to people punching nazis and killing them while putting people in jail for not abiding segregation laws. Today it's a ok for whites and blacks to mix but punching a Nazi will get you arrested. My point to you is the law is not a compass for morality, never has been and never will be. Just like stealing food to feed your starving child makes you a decent parent and a criminal at the same time. Knocking out a Nazi makes you a criminal and a corageous defender of humanity. --- Living is naturally hell, you have to work to put a smile on. http://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/7_ugmpjq.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Inigo 09/18/17 2:15:59 PM #82: |
Lmao
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thelovefist 09/18/17 2:16:03 PM #83: |
jayj420 posted...
thelovefist posted...Ok serious question - Why do people think that saying hitting this person is wrong means that you're defending Nazism? Ok I don't know how to put it more plainly than this, but I will try since you seem to be in a fit of hysterical rage: I emphatically denounce Nazism and find it to be amoral, evil and disgusting. I do not think it is right to punch someone in the face that has not attempted to attack you or your family. --- N/A ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solid Snake07 09/18/17 2:16:24 PM #84: |
That's fucked up
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Tezlok 09/18/17 2:17:07 PM #85: |
thelovefist posted...
jayj420 posted...thelovefist posted...Ok serious question - Why do people think that saying hitting this person is wrong means that you're defending Nazism? this won't work. they will still argue with you. they like to ignore certain things you say and pretend they didn't see it so they can keep calling you evil ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ledbowman 09/18/17 2:17:08 PM #86: |
No it's fine *oblivion*
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The Admiral 09/18/17 2:17:29 PM #87: |
Omega Hunter posted...
My point to you is the law is not a compass for morality, never has been and never will be. That's fine, but you have yet to make an argument for how assaulting a non-violent person is moral. You keep arguing by analogy, which is a fallacy. I'll give you the chance to explain how this assault is moral on it's own, if I'm misstating your position. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fin_Dawg_004 09/18/17 2:17:36 PM #88: |
"No it's fine.."
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That_Happened 09/18/17 2:17:53 PM #89: |
Tezlok posted...
in america it is illegal to punch someone cause of words Again, no. Incitement is a very real crime. You cannot incite other people to violence. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lww99 09/18/17 2:19:14 PM #91: |
Mal_Fet posted...
"If you don't support violence against nonviolent people, you MUST support their ideology." Aren't your arms tired, from all that reaching? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MikeArmstrong 09/18/17 2:19:20 PM #92: |
ledbowman posted...
No it's fine *oblivion* The Admiral posted... Omega Hunter posted...My point to you is the law is not a compass for morality, never has been and never will be. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vindris_SNH 09/18/17 2:20:56 PM #93: |
Omega Hunter posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...Nazis are scum, but this kind of behavior isn't going to solve the bigger issue. In fact, it will only make it worse. You missed the part where I said "it will make it worse" --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Inigo 09/18/17 2:20:57 PM #94: |
MikeArmstrong posted...
ledbowman posted...No it's fine *oblivion* >Nazis >non violent Pick one --- "This is your last dance." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Omega Hunter 09/18/17 2:21:03 PM #95: |
The Admiral posted...
Omega Hunter posted...My point to you is the law is not a compass for morality, never has been and never will be. We disagree on the starting point I don't see how anyone wearing a literal Nazi armband can be called non violent. I can address your further points if we can get past this hang up. --- Living is naturally hell, you have to work to put a smile on. http://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/7_ugmpjq.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MikeArmstrong 09/18/17 2:22:21 PM #96: |
Blue_Inigo posted...
MikeArmstrong posted...ledbowman posted...No it's fine *oblivion* You missed the joke ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tezlok 09/18/17 2:23:01 PM #97: |
Omega Hunter posted...
We disagree on the starting point I don't see how anyone wearing a literal Nazi armband can be called non violent. the difference is that I think that no matter what someone says with their mouth, until they actually act on it, they are not violent ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fin_Dawg_004 09/18/17 2:23:34 PM #98: |
They deserve the welfare!
No it's fine. :) --- Dallas Cowboys : 1 - 1 Dallas Mavs : Dirk Nowitzki: 30, 005 points (6th all time) 1814 from Wilt ... Copied to Clipboard!
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emblem boy 09/18/17 2:24:13 PM #99: |
My issue with stories like these is that what does him punching that guy accomplish?
People who are against Nazis 100% are still going to be against Nazis. People who are not, are still not going to be against it. Those in the middle(wrongly in the middle by the way. There is no middle ground for the idealogy) will just end up feeling a little bit of sympathy for them. While those in the middle are not good, the point is, you want as many on your side as possible. There just is no end result in punching a Nazi. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SaikyoStyle 09/18/17 2:24:18 PM #100: |
Raise your hand if seeing a Nazi get punched in the face made you want to become one.
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The Admiral 09/18/17 2:24:32 PM #101: |
Omega Hunter posted...
The Admiral posted...Omega Hunter posted...My point to you is the law is not a compass for morality, never has been and never will be. If you don't understand what basic words like "violence" means, there probably isn't much of a discussion to be had on any level. However, if you have a respected source that defines "violence" in a different way than the legal system and the dictionary, you're welcome to share that. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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