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Omega Hunter
09/18/17 12:51:24 PM
#401:


ThyCorndog posted...
this is a long ass topic so I didn't read most of it, but basically I would say treat someone wearing a nazi armband the same as someone wearing an ISIS one. as long as both are treated the same, I don't see any hypocrisy


The black flag of ISIS and the swastica worn in public are both deserving of good right hooks, if not more, in my opinion. I also think the person doing the punching should be prosecuted, I only hope we always have people brave enough to take that chance of legal trouble and ideally a jury won't convict.
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Mal_Fet
09/18/17 12:51:39 PM
#402:


MikeArmstrong posted...
Assault is assault no matter how you spin it.

Who did Trump assault
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/18/17 12:52:46 PM
#403:


Mal_Fet posted...
MikeArmstrong posted...
Assault is assault no matter how you spin it.

Who did Trump assault


a better question is "who did Trump advocate assault on?"
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Newhopes
09/18/17 12:53:11 PM
#404:


Mal_Fet posted...
MikeArmstrong posted...
Assault is assault no matter how you spin it.

Who did Trump assault


Yes please do tell me I'd like to know.
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Tezlok
09/18/17 12:53:49 PM
#405:


Malcolm_Matar posted...
This guy's actually in here defending running people over. Never heard of "First, do no harm?"

If the choice is risk injuring protestors or just sitting in my car and waiting for the patient to die, that all goes out the window. I feel like you guys aren't picturing this situation the same way I am. I am talking about a person that is mortally wounded let's say a 6 year old girl has been shot. And protestors are refusing to move out of the way and laughing and swearing at me. And throwing rocks at the ambulance
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ThyCorndog
09/18/17 12:54:04 PM
#406:


Omega Hunter posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
this is a long ass topic so I didn't read most of it, but basically I would say treat someone wearing a nazi armband the same as someone wearing an ISIS one. as long as both are treated the same, I don't see any hypocrisy


The black flag of ISIS and the swastica worn in public are both deserving of good right hooks, if not more, in my opinion. I also think the person doing the punching should be prosecuted, I only hope we always have people brave enough to take that chance of legal trouble and ideally a jury won't convict.

yeah, that's fine. I'm not sure what I'd do if I saw someone dressed like a nazi or isis member. I probably wouldn't punch them but I definitely didn't see anything if someone else decides to
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Mal_Fet
09/18/17 12:54:23 PM
#407:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
MikeArmstrong posted...
Assault is assault no matter how you spin it.

Who did Trump assault


a better question is "who did Trump advocate assault on?"

He said Trump assaulted somebody. I'm asking who he's referring to.
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MikeArmstrong
09/18/17 12:54:51 PM
#408:


Mal_Fet posted...
MikeArmstrong posted...
Assault is assault no matter how you spin it.

Who did Trump assault

He incited violence. But he's god emperor so he can do no wrong.

And lol @ zikten comparing running over protesters to Goku not killing Frieza. Holy shit at the lack of self awareness.
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Mal_Fet
09/18/17 12:56:02 PM
#409:


MikeArmstrong posted...
He incited violence.

So he didn't assault anybody?
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The Great Muta 22
09/18/17 12:56:18 PM
#410:


Fecundity posted...
The same people in here trying to draw a distinction between "violent Nazis versus non-violent Nazis," would lose their shit if the conversation were between "child molesters and paedophiles who haven't done anything wrong yet and are in need of help."


Same people believe the Charlottesville protests were fine that would lose their minds if ISIS marched through the streets
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_Near_
09/18/17 12:56:26 PM
#411:


Mal_Fet posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
MikeArmstrong posted...
Assault is assault no matter how you spin it.

Who did Trump assault


a better question is "who did Trump advocate assault on?"

He said Trump assaulted somebody. I'm asking who he's referring to.


women whom he finds attractive
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Deadpool_18
09/18/17 12:56:52 PM
#412:


Vindris_SNH posted...
It is not acceptable to punch people just because their beliefs appall you. This kind of violence should be cut off immediately. Hopefully the people who punched him get charged with battery. I mean yeah, Nazis are scum, but come on. Be civil. This kind of behavior isn't going to solve the bigger issue. In fact, it will only make it worse.


You'd better be joking.
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MikeArmstrong
09/18/17 12:56:56 PM
#413:


Mal_Fet posted...
MikeArmstrong posted...
He incited violence.

So he didn't assault anybody?

I'm not saying he assaulted anyone. I'm saying he told someone to assault someone.

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Horus_Leftfield
09/18/17 12:57:14 PM
#414:


There really is no other word for people like Zikten and Mal_Fet, than regressive.

You guys have spent the last five years successfully playing a god damn shell game, brainwashing everybody into furious anger towards SJW's, and while everyone was distracted by that bit of misdirection, you were cultivating tolerance for Nazism and racism all along.
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Deadpool_18
09/18/17 12:57:38 PM
#415:


Also, I can't stop watching this video. It's so, so, so satisfying.
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thelovefist
09/18/17 12:57:50 PM
#416:


Deadpool_18 posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
It is not acceptable to punch people just because their beliefs appall you. This kind of violence should be cut off immediately. Hopefully the people who punched him get charged with battery. I mean yeah, Nazis are scum, but come on. Be civil. This kind of behavior isn't going to solve the bigger issue. In fact, it will only make it worse.


You'd better be joking.

Why would he be joking? I expect the majority of the population takes this reasonable stance i.e. violence is not ok.
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FaultyGourry
09/18/17 12:57:59 PM
#417:


ChaoticKnuckles posted...
You know what it took to beat Nazis years ago? Good old fashioned violence.

This is such a non-argument and I'm tired of seeing it. Nazis in the '30s and 40's were were a governing military body systematically killing jews and other people they deemed undesirable. Nazis today are a handful of dumb rednecks and edgy shit kids spouting stupidity. They are NOT the same and acting like they are is extremely disrespectful to the victims of Nazi Germany.
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hockeybub89
09/18/17 12:58:26 PM
#418:


NINExATExSEVEN posted...

I literally just mentioned why both ideologies are terrible and why we need to shut both down. But you can't have your precious communism criticised right?

You're just going to ignore how shitty communism is because Nazis right?

Why can't we fight both?

Can we stop comparing the two? Governments with economies run under the name of communism have been responsible for millions of deaths, yes, but communism is still just an economic policy. It isn't inherently violent. It's just an unrealistic theory. The people who call for communism are not calling for death. They are naive idealists who think "true communism" would be great.

You can't separate violence from white supremacy and Nazism, not even on paper in a vacuum.
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Tezlok
09/18/17 12:58:29 PM
#419:


Horus_Leftfield posted...
There really is no other word for people like Zikten and Mal_Fet, than regressive.

You guys have spent the last five years successfully playing a god damn shell game, brainwashing everybody into furious anger towards SJW's, and while everyone was distracted by that bit of misdirection, you were cultivating tolerance for Nazism and racism all along.

Grats on utterly missing the mark. You couldn't be more wrong about my motives or beliefs. You really so not get it or understand me or what I am doing at all
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EyeWontBeFooled
09/18/17 12:58:32 PM
#420:


ChaoticKnuckles posted...
EyeWontBeFooled posted...
That_Happened posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
Nazis are scum, but come on. Be civil.

"Be civil" to the people who are openly telling you that you deserve to be eliminated and wearing the emblem of a guy who killed millions of Jews. I still don't understand this mentality. The Nazi is already not being "civil" but suddenly we expect everyone to tolerate him with open arms.

The answer is to be the better person. Violence is the easy answer, and feels good in the now, but offers little, if any, long term benefits.


You know what it took to beat Nazis years ago? Good old fashioned violence.

The Nazis of Seattle and the Nazis of Germany are in different leagues, and you must know that. You want to know a good way to make large scale acts of violence unavoidable? Keep punching those in the grassroots movements in the streets. The anger flares, becomes part of a political, then military machine.
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sktgamer_13dude
09/18/17 1:00:01 PM
#421:


@Tezlok posted...
_Near_ posted...
Tezlok posted...
the only reason WW2 nazis did the stuff they did was from being in charge


and they only reason they got in charge was because no one stopped them

nazis can't take over america. we have a government that prevents something like that from happening. this isn't germany. and we haven't just lost a world war. we aren't in a depression. there are a bunch of things that happened in germany that set up the rise of nazis. none of them are happening in america

You do realize Hitler and the Nazi party were voted into power right? They didn't just take it.
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Horus_Leftfield
09/18/17 1:01:11 PM
#422:


Tezlok posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...
There really is no other word for people like Zikten and Mal_Fet, than regressive.

You guys have spent the last five years successfully playing a god damn shell game, brainwashing everybody into furious anger towards SJW's, and while everyone was distracted by that bit of misdirection, you were cultivating tolerance for Nazism and racism all along.

Grats on utterly missing the mark. You couldn't be more wrong about my motives or beliefs. You really so not get it or understand me or what I am doing at all

No, you just want to run me over and murder me for marching in the street. I definitely don't have you pegged.
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hockeybub89
09/18/17 1:01:20 PM
#423:


ThyCorndog posted...
Omega Hunter posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
this is a long ass topic so I didn't read most of it, but basically I would say treat someone wearing a nazi armband the same as someone wearing an ISIS one. as long as both are treated the same, I don't see any hypocrisy


The black flag of ISIS and the swastica worn in public are both deserving of good right hooks, if not more, in my opinion. I also think the person doing the punching should be prosecuted, I only hope we always have people brave enough to take that chance of legal trouble and ideally a jury won't convict.

yeah, that's fine. I'm not sure what I'd do if I saw someone dressed like a nazi or isis member. I probably wouldn't punch them but I definitely didn't see anything if someone else decides to

Watch out. People like Mal or Admiral will call you worse than ISIS members that have yet to set off a car bomb.
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Tezlok
09/18/17 1:01:24 PM
#424:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
@Tezlok posted...
_Near_ posted...
Tezlok posted...
the only reason WW2 nazis did the stuff they did was from being in charge


and they only reason they got in charge was because no one stopped them

nazis can't take over america. we have a government that prevents something like that from happening. this isn't germany. and we haven't just lost a world war. we aren't in a depression. there are a bunch of things that happened in germany that set up the rise of nazis. none of them are happening in america

You do realize Hitler and the Nazi party were voted into power right? They didn't just take it.

Yes I know that. I didn't sleep through history class like some CEmen did
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Mal_Fet
09/18/17 1:01:35 PM
#425:


hockeybub89 posted...
Can we stop comparing the two? Governments with economies run under the name of communism have been responsible for millions of deaths, yes, but communism is still just an economic policy.

So? Nazism is just a form of government. Punch Nazis and Commies alike!

hockeybub89 posted...
It isn't inherently violent.

Yes it is. What do you think class warfare is?
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Fecundity
09/18/17 1:01:59 PM
#426:


Still not seeing the value in standing up for Nazism...
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Tezlok
09/18/17 1:02:25 PM
#427:


Horus_Leftfield posted...
Tezlok posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...
There really is no other word for people like Zikten and Mal_Fet, than regressive.

You guys have spent the last five years successfully playing a god damn shell game, brainwashing everybody into furious anger towards SJW's, and while everyone was distracted by that bit of misdirection, you were cultivating tolerance for Nazism and racism all along.

Grats on utterly missing the mark. You couldn't be more wrong about my motives or beliefs. You really so not get it or understand me or what I am doing at all

No, you just want to run me over and murder me for marching in the street. I definitely don't have you pegged.

Again you missed the mark. No you don't have me pegged. Are you going to get out of the way when an ambulance shows up? If the answer is yes than I have no beef with you
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SaikyoStyle
09/18/17 1:02:34 PM
#428:


Good shot, clean contact. Did anyone steal his wallet?
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Bishop9800
09/18/17 1:03:54 PM
#429:


Bishop9800 posted...
Can we get a count of all the people who are crying over Nazis getting punched?

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hockeybub89
09/18/17 1:05:39 PM
#430:


EyeWontBeFooled posted...
ChaoticKnuckles posted...
EyeWontBeFooled posted...
That_Happened posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
Nazis are scum, but come on. Be civil.

"Be civil" to the people who are openly telling you that you deserve to be eliminated and wearing the emblem of a guy who killed millions of Jews. I still don't understand this mentality. The Nazi is already not being "civil" but suddenly we expect everyone to tolerate him with open arms.

The answer is to be the better person. Violence is the easy answer, and feels good in the now, but offers little, if any, long term benefits.


You know what it took to beat Nazis years ago? Good old fashioned violence.

The Nazis of Seattle and the Nazis of Germany are in different leagues, and you must know that. You want to know a good way to make large scale acts of violence unavoidable? Keep punching those in the grassroots movements in the streets. The anger flares, becomes part of a political, then military machine.

Oh come on. We aren't going to create a Fourth Reich if we punch enough card-carrying Nazis. That implies the majority will become sympathetic and then supportive of their cause. We're one day going to ignore history and their message just because we get so heartbroken at them taking right hooks?
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Malcolm_Matar
09/18/17 1:07:16 PM
#431:


Imagine if ISIS sympathizers marched through @Mal_Fet 's neighborhood waving the black flag of Jihad. How much you wanna bet he would not only rail against it, but find some way to blame it on SJW's and liberal Muslim accommodationists.
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thelovefist
09/18/17 1:08:09 PM
#432:


Malcolm_Matar posted...
Imagine if ISIS sympathizers marched through Mal_Fet 's neighborhood waving the black flag of Jihad. How much you wanna bet he would not only rail against it, but find some way to blame it on SJW's and liberal Muslim accommodationists.


ROD you should probably step away for a bit and stop your meltdown.
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The Great Muta 22
09/18/17 1:10:24 PM
#433:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
You do realize Hitler and the Nazi party were voted into power right? They didn't just take it.


You're talking about people who think Nazism was a far left movement that didn't see the beginning of its rise in rural beer halls and countryside and viewed Marxism as their primary enemies...

So I mean, their knowledge on the subject matter is lacking at best
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Mal_Fet
09/18/17 1:11:39 PM
#434:


Fecundity posted...
Still not seeing the value in standing up for Nazism...

How about standing up for the rule of law
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Malcolm_Matar
09/18/17 1:12:09 PM
#435:


Bishop9800 posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
Can we get a count of all the people who are crying over Nazis getting punched?

The usual crowd of Red Hats.
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Zeeak4444
09/18/17 1:12:34 PM
#436:


Mal_Fet posted...
Fecundity posted...
Still not seeing the value in standing up for Nazism...

How about standing up for the rule of law


You can pretend all you want but you're not fooling anyone.
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hockeybub89
09/18/17 1:13:13 PM
#437:


Mal_Fet posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Can we stop comparing the two? Governments with economies run under the name of communism have been responsible for millions of deaths, yes, but communism is still just an economic policy.

So? Nazism is just a form of government. Punch Nazis and Commies alike!

hockeybub89 posted...
It isn't inherently violent.

Yes it is. What do you think class warfare is?

Don't be daft. I am talking about the idea itself. Violence is not a tenet of communism. Again, I don't care how many millions communist countries have killed or how poor it is in practice. In naive ideal theory, it can work according to its advocates. They are not looking for violence.

You cannot separate violence from the core of Nazism. I am not advocating for communism, but let's stop with the false equivalence. Capitalist countries have caused millions of deaths. Should we call capitalism inherently violent? Of course not.
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Mal_Fet
09/18/17 1:13:17 PM
#438:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
You're talking about people who think Nazism was a far left movement

Because it was. All of the fascist thinkers at the time were socialists or former socialists.

The Great Muta 22 posted...
and viewed Marxism as their primary enemies...

They viewed Bolsheviks as their primary enemies.

Saying that Nazis aren't on the left because they hated other leftists is like saying Shiite Muslims aren't really Muslims because they hate Sunni Muslims
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Fecundity
09/18/17 1:13:27 PM
#439:


Mal_Fet posted...
Fecundity posted...
Still not seeing the value in standing up for Nazism...

How about standing up for the rule of law

It doesn't seem like rule of law is your primary goal, as much as racism and trolling and beating liberals.
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DrizztLink
09/18/17 1:13:30 PM
#440:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
You do realize Hitler and the Nazi party were voted into power right? They didn't just take it.


You're talking about people who think Nazism was a far left movement that didn't see the beginning of its rise in rural beer halls and countryside and viewed Marxism as their primary enemies...

So I mean, their knowledge on the subject matter is lacking at best

Most of that was due to a very poorly handled treaty at the end of WWI, ending with Germany having its collective dick cut off and both knees broken.

It's understandable that they would jump at a nationalist party, but really doesn't excuse the whole "They tried to exterminate my family and my people" thing for me.
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LordTrinen
09/18/17 1:14:34 PM
#441:


Fecundity posted...
Still not seeing the value in standing up for Nazism...

No one here is genuinely standing up for Nazism. What people are opposing is a pattern of violence that can be turned against anyone, even you, if someone can come up with some justification for it. And problem is that people can justify damn near anything.
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Fecundity
09/18/17 1:14:58 PM
#442:


Mal_Fet posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
You're talking about people who think Nazism was a far left movement

Because it was. All of the fascist thinkers at the time were socialists or former socialists.


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Mal_Fet
09/18/17 1:15:53 PM
#443:


hockeybub89 posted...
Don't be daft. I am talking about the idea itself. Violence is not a tenet of communism.

Yes it is. Please read any communist thinkers' idea of how the capitalist system will be replaced by a socialist one.
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Santorin
09/18/17 1:16:04 PM
#444:


Assault is assault.

Hope that guy has a good lawyer.
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Blue_Inigo
09/18/17 1:16:37 PM
#445:


Fecundity posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
You're talking about people who think Nazism was a far left movement

Because it was. All of the fascist thinkers at the time were socialists or former socialists.


Lmao, where do I get the cool aid you're drinking?

You don't want that Nazi defending kool aid
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DKFjalfe
09/18/17 1:16:46 PM
#446:


I'm certainly not saddened by this news AT ALL, but I agree that this will do nothing but increase Nazi's victim complexes.
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theskinthickens
09/18/17 1:17:17 PM
#447:


Malcolm_Matar posted...
Imagine if ISIS sympathizers marched through @Mal_Fet 's neighborhood waving the black flag of Jihad. How much you wanna bet he would not only rail against it, but find some way to blame it on SJW's and liberal Muslim accommodationists.


Does Mal Fet even leave his sister's basement to notice things like that?
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Horus_Leftfield
09/18/17 1:17:21 PM
#448:


You don't suppose it's the case the real reason Mal_Fet defends Nazis is because Nazis were ultra-nationalists, and Trump/Republicans are also ultra-nationalists.

There's more than a tinge of Nazism in the modern day GOP.
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Zeeak4444
09/18/17 1:18:11 PM
#449:


theskinthickens posted...
Malcolm_Matar posted...
Imagine if ISIS sympathizers marched through @Mal_Fet 's neighborhood waving the black flag of Jihad. How much you wanna bet he would not only rail against it, but find some way to blame it on SJW's and liberal Muslim accommodationists.


Does Mal Fet even leave his sister's basement to notice things like that?


Doubtful.
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hockeybub89
09/18/17 1:18:27 PM
#450:


Mal is just too smart for us. It isn't his fault all the problems throughout history can be blamed on the left wing of the political spectrum.

Also, North Korea and the Congo are democratic republics that value the people. After all, it's in their name and you can argue that they vaguely resemble it.
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