Current Events > Do you think climate change is real?

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Asherlee10 posted...

Who voted no?

I voted "not sure". Thus da poll I made
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No, it's just a wealth redistribution scheme
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Asherlee10 posted...

Who voted no?

I did just to make you mad
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It's real but most of the solutions being pushed are just money making schemes that don't solve anything.
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Anyone who votes no or not sure should be placed in a large slingshot and fired into the sun.

That is about as realistic as denying climate change
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I voted "Not Sure" but I lean towards Yes. I believe it's real, but I don't believe it's as apocalyptic as it's made out to be. Earth's climate does fluctuate over time naturally, so I'm not the type of person to lose their shit anytime something odd happens weather-wise. THAT SAID I do also take a "better safe than sorry" approach and generally support measures that seek to limit damage to the environment, just because in the event man is unequivocally, explicitly, solely responsible for climate change, that's a big risk to take.
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No, there were ice ages before and they disappeared. Hell, the Great Lakes are because of glacial movement. Must have been carbon emissions, right?
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ForestLogic posted...

I voted "Not Sure" but I lean towards Yes. I believe it's real, but I don't believe it's as apocalyptic as it's made out to be. Earth's climate does fluctuate over time naturally, so I'm not the type of person to lose their shit anytime something odd happens weather-wise. THAT SAID I do also take a "better safe than sorry" approach and generally support measures that seek to limit damage to the environment, just because in the event man is unequivocally, explicitly, solely responsible for climate change, that's a big risk to take.

While the dangers are likely being exaggerated too much, there are real dangers if the average temp keeps rising. Hurricanes feed off the temperature of the water and climate change will lead to more powerful hurricanes.

The other thing is climate change would be much less of an issue if it wasn't for the fact humans are playing a direct impact into the acceleration of the increases temperatures.

I think the problem is that too many people put too much emphasis in trying to complete solving climate change, which is an impossible task. At the point we are at, we can't revert our impact only prevent us from making it worse.
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you're a pretty huge idiot if you refuse to acknowledge that the climate changes, reasons why aside
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TheDyslexicGuy posted...

No, there were ice ages before and they disappeared.

So climate change? The poll isn't asking if it's man made or not. It's a fact that natural climate change has occurred throughout history.
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71% thinks so
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Asherlee10 posted...

Who voted no?

The kek warriors.
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People who question man's ability to influence climate change should look at the tear in the Ozone layer. Remember the warnings you read about in school back in the 80s and 90s about CFCs and how they were tearing a hole in the Ozone layer, causing increased risks of cancer and such? Well with new environmental regulations and the banning of CFCs, the Ozone layer stabilized in the mid-90s, and has begun to recover since the 2000s. They expect the Ozone to be back to its original levels by 2075. Yes, man caused the hole in the Ozone layer, and it was man that worked to solve the problem.

This is all proof of manmade environmental impacts, and how acting in environmentally-friendly ways have actually helped our planet.

The fact that there are people against environmentally-conscious regulations based on political allegiance is just foolish. Even if you don't believe in climate change (and as a meteorologist, I'd love to have a chat with you), how can you not even consider planet-friendly regulations at the very least for the sake of extending the life of our planet, even if not for man-saving purposes?
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Zanzenburger posted...

People who question man's ability to influence climate change should look at the tear in the Ozone layer. Remember the warnings you read about in school back in the 80s and 90s about CFCs and how they were tearing a hole in the Ozone layer, causing increased risks of cancer and such? Well with new environmental regulations and the banning of CFCs, the Ozone layer stabilized in the mid-90s, and has begun to recover since the 2000s. They expect the Ozone to be back to its original levels by 2075. Yes, man caused the hole in the Ozone layer, and it was man that worked to solve the problem.

This is all proof of manmade environmental impacts, and how acting in environmentally-friendly ways have actually helped our planet.

The fact that there are people against environmentally-conscious regulations based on political allegiance is just foolish. Even if you don't believe in climate change (and as a meteorologist, I'd love to have a chat with you), how can you not even consider planet-friendly regulations at the very least for the sake of extending the life of our planet, even if not for man-saving purposes?

Also in the 60s(i think?) there was a huge thing about lead levels in ocean water being caused by lead in gasoline.

Lead gets removed from gas, oceans lead levels stabilize.
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It's pretty obvious that human-made climate change is a problem.
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What does it matter, though? People aren't going to stop using electricity or driving cars. There is no solution.
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I know it is real. Climate change is a fact-- not an opinion.
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No, it's a myth and in so shocked that people buy into it. It's weather patterns, people. Say it with me:

WEA-THER PA-TTER-NS
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--kresnik-- posted...

No, it's a myth and in so shocked that people buy into it. It's weather patterns, people. Say it with me:

WEA-THER PA-TTER-NS

LoL

Wow...
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It's sad how you people buy into this nonsense. Was the ice age caused because of the dinosaurs polluting the earth with their cars and stuff? No.

These things happen, and this is just the way things are shaking out. These "experts" can't even decide on whether it's too hot or too cold XD

Try again when you can do some actual predicting, rather than simply comment on trends, "scientists." It's so funny how he science community mocks faith, but you'll eat up this shit with a spoon just because it gives you a sense of feeling that you "know" something. No proof, just "because we're scientists and we said so."

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Zodd3224 posted...

--kresnik-- posted...

No, it's a myth and in so shocked that people buy into it. It's weather patterns, people. Say it with me:

WEA-THER PA-TTER-NS

LoL

Wow...

What do you expect from Southcoast?
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SpiralDrift posted...

What does it matter, though? People aren't going to stop using electricity or driving cars. There is no solution.

We can reduce the amount of our electricity that comes from carbon-emitting sources such as coal and natural gas.
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Antifar posted...

SpiralDrift posted...

What does it matter, though? People aren't going to stop using electricity or driving cars. There is no solution.

We can reduce the amount of our electricity that comes from carbon-emitting sources such as coal and natural gas.

How? All of the solutions are either lacking or pose dangerous and environmentally harmful issues of their own. Solar isn't a viable solution everywhere.
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SpiralDrift posted...

How? All of the solutions are either lacking or pose dangerous and environmentally harmful issues of their own

https://cleantechnica.com/2017/05/08/germany-breaks-solar-record-gets-85-electricity-renewables/
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--kresnik-- posted...

No, it's a myth and in so shocked that people buy into it. It's weather patterns, people. Say it with me:

WEA-THER PA-TTER-NS

Wew lad
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DezCaughtIt posted...

--kresnik-- posted...

No, it's a myth and in so shocked that people buy into it. It's weather patterns, people. Say it with me:

WEA-THER PA-TTER-NS

Wew lad

messed up the syllables too
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76% of CE posters accept the science of climate change. There is hope.
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TroutPaste posted...

DezCaughtIt posted...

--kresnik-- posted...

No, it's a myth and in so shocked that people buy into it. It's weather patterns, people. Say it with me:

WEA-THER PA-TTER-NS

Wew lad

messed up the syllables too

Wouldn't really expect a climate change denier to know much of anything no matter how simple.
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Now watch as I come back later today and my hope is shattered.
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How is that slingshot into the sun coming along?
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creativerealms posted...

76% of CE posters accept the science of climate change. There is hope.

the debate isn't over whether climate change is real (not among anyone that has half of a brain anyway), the debate is if it is directly correlated with humans multiplying and causing more pollution vs it mostly being naturally occurring (volcanoes and such).
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yes i'm not a fucking idiot
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It's undeniably and factually real.
The only thing people debate is if man influences it and if government regulation is the way to solve it.

So yes it's objectively real.
All the science pretty clearly points to mankind contributing.
And the free market clearly doesn't give a fuck about the environment or safety, just making money, so personally I feel regulation and tax incentives is the only option.
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Gamer99z posted...

The only thing people debate is if man influences it and if government regulation is the way to solve it.

oh no, many high profile republicans have denied climate change

Rick Scott banned scientists working in state agencies from using the term "climate change"

our president called it a fucking chinese hoax, and hundreds of people believe the crap he says

accepting manmade climate change is the first and biggest problem
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99% of peopel should say its real.

the question is what is the source

So what happens when Africa and India have their enormous population surge this century?

Adding 3 billion people to the planet by 2100 just from those 2 places would cause massive damage to the climate considering that within this century, Africa and India will most likely become 1st world or at least close to it.

Then there's the issue nobody is talking about. Our rapidly disappearing forests. Forests are needed because they absorb harmful CO2 gas. We're already destroying our forests faster than we can replace them. With the population BOOM in 3rd world countries we will lose out forests and climate change will destroy us.
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ForestLogic posted...

I voted "Not Sure" but I lean towards Yes. I believe it's real, but I don't believe it's as apocalyptic as it's made out to be. Earth's climate does fluctuate over time naturally, so I'm not the type of person to lose their shit anytime something odd happens weather-wise. THAT SAID I do also take a "better safe than sorry" approach and generally support measures that seek to limit damage to the environment, just because in the event man is unequivocally, explicitly, solely responsible for climate change, that's a big risk to take.

Pretty much this
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Yes. It is real. But, man's impact on it is overestimated. If it were as bad as government officials make it out it to be, we would've been dead by the mid-1900's. Climate change(global warming) is a fear tactic to try and overregulate and raise taxes on "unclean" energy sources, then jack up the cost of green energy after you destroy the competition. We don't cause enough pollution to impact Earth on a global scale...just locally.
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_Near_ posted...

Gamer99z posted...

The only thing people debate is if man influences it and if government regulation is the way to solve it.

oh no, many high profile republicans have denied climate change

Rick Scott banned scientists working in state agencies from using the term "climate change"

our president called it a fucking chinese hoax, and hundreds of people believe the crap he says

accepting manmade climate change is the first and biggest problem

Okay I'll admit there are certain, quite frankly idiots, who can look at basic facts and data and deny it but most people who are against the idea of it aren't actually deniers as much as just skeptics. Believing that it's naturally occurring and the Earth naturally has changed temperature up and down over the years, that it's not being contributed to by man, that government regulation won't solve it even if it is man made or that it's unavoidable, etc.

Again though I don't agree with any of that, I think it's 100% both natural and being amplified notably by mankind and that we need to do what we can to change it and I think the facts and 99% of the world experts opinions speak for themselves, however those are just the arguments I most commonly see from so called deniers most don't straight up denying it, just man's impact or ability to control it. Which is still stupid and uninformed imho, but definitely more respectable than the people who just straight up deny it entirely even naturally occurring because it factually is.

And there's also the argument to be made about how I will admit environmentalists kinda hurt their cause by blowing it out if proportion as a more immediate and apocalyptic problem than it actually was, like watching that Al Gore documentary in 2017 is kinda laughable because while his intentions were good most of those predictions were greatly exaggerated or simply wrong based on what we know now. I think that led to some people reinforcing their opinion that it's a hoax or not a big deal, etc.
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Ya but im not one of those mongos who yell shit like "two hurricne hrvy and errma clmate chnge!!!1111"
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SpiralDrift posted...

It's real but most of the solutions being pushed are just money making schemes that don't solve anything.

This is a good post.
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Ganon19 posted...

Ya but im not one of those mongos who yell shit like "two hurricne hrvy and errma clmate chnge!!!1111"

I want to but I accept there's probably more to it than that.

This isn't the only time truly bad hurricanes have hit the continental US (though not many in a single season).
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Here's the problem. Of course it's real, but that doesn't make it feasible for us to do literally anything about it. Unless you're willing to crater half the developing world, or create nuclear programs for all (that'll never bite anyone in the butt.) We could go carbon negative and still not account for a month's worth of pollution from developing nations.

It's gonna take more than propagandising solar power that still never gives out what it cost to put in.
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Of course I don't.

I also think the sky is green, and cats bark.
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I absolutely believe it is real. During the Ice Age, thr country I currently live in, was just a huge mass of ice, so me living here, proves it exists.
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Asherlee10 posted...

I can't tell if some of the deniers that posted in this topic are actually serious.

Remember, there are still Trump supporters...
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