Current Events > Jews furiously appeal police decision to allow Nazi rally to march by synagogue.

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UnfairRepresent
09/13/17 4:17:14 AM
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Sweden's main organization for Jews is appealing a police decision to grant the openly racist neo-Nazi group the Nordic Resistance Movement (NRM) permission to stage a march near a synagogue in Gothenburg on September 30th.

The march will not only fall on the same day as the holy Jewish holiday Yom Kippur – a day of atonement observed by fasting and praying – it will also pass close to a Gothenburg synagogue.

“It’s the day of the year when many Jews who normally don’t go to the synagogue will gather there. On this day, the police have decided to grant the neo-Nazi Nordic Resistance Movement permission to march through Gothenburg, no more than a stone’s throw away from the synagogue,” Aron Verständig, chairman of The Official Council of Swedish Jewish Communities, and Allan Stutzinky, chairman of the Jewish Community in Gothenburg, wrote in an opinion piece in daily newspaper Svenska Dagbladet.

“Aside from out of fear for our own security, it evokes uncomfortable associations for us Jews. During the Holocaust it wasn’t unusual for the German Nazis to conduct their horrendous atrocities on the most important days of the Jewish calendar,” they added.

The NRM had initially sought permission to stage the march on one of Gothenburg’s main avenues, Kungsportsavenyn, but were only granted a permit if they agreed to change the route. The new route will pass not far from the synagogue.

“Let them stay in the periphery, where they belong,” Verständig and Stutzinky said.

Several counterprotests are expected to be held to demonstrate against the NRM.

Earlier this year, anti-racism foundation Expo said that the NRM was the driving force behind a surge in neo-Nazi activity in Sweden in 2016, with propaganda-spreading including the distribution of flyers and stickers their most common form of activity.

"They're at the most extreme end of this white supremacist area. There's a lot of crime associated with them, they have a relationship with violence," Expo researcher Jonathan Leman told The Local at the time.


Full Article: https://www.thelocal.se/20170911/swedish-jews-to-appeal-neo-nazi-march-permit-synagogue

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I haven't seen the maps but I can imagine it must be a headache to desginate a spot that is outside of private property, large enough to hold a march, easily to access AND no where near a religious building.
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Rika_Furude
09/13/17 4:19:16 AM
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Bat178
09/13/17 4:28:18 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
cant nazis just fuck off
unfair is gonna be contrarian at this post i bet

Not until Trump is out of office, unfortunately. He's the reason why they have been doing this shit publicly since earlier this year instead of hiding it like they use to.
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Blue_Dream87
09/13/17 4:31:26 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
cant nazis just fuck off
unfair is gonna be contrarian at this post i bet


If everyone sides with the nazis, maybe he'll argue against them.
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NibeIungsnarf
09/13/17 4:35:33 AM
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Not seeing a problem or a story here.

Gross people employ their right to do stuff while being gross. Jewish people are annoyed and try to use legal means to stop them, probably unsuccessfully.

Nobody is in the wrong (apart from the whole being a nazi business, but that's another matter).
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UnfairRepresent
09/13/17 4:35:36 AM
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Bat178 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
cant nazis just fuck off
unfair is gonna be contrarian at this post i bet

Not until Trump is out of office, unfortunately. He's the reason why they have been doing this shit publicly since earlier this year instead of hiding it like they use to.

Trump isn't in power in Sweden
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scar the 1
09/13/17 4:36:19 AM
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Bat178 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
cant nazis just fuck off
unfair is gonna be contrarian at this post i bet

Not until Trump is out of office, unfortunately. He's the reason why they have been doing this shit publicly since earlier this year instead of hiding it like they use to.

Trump has little to do with fanning the flames of NMR in Sweden. SD help a lot, though, and they've been growing well before Trump came to power.
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Bat178
09/13/17 4:42:54 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Bat178 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
cant nazis just fuck off
unfair is gonna be contrarian at this post i bet

Not until Trump is out of office, unfortunately. He's the reason why they have been doing this shit publicly since earlier this year instead of hiding it like they use to.

Trump isn't in power in Sweden

But he has been emboldening them in North America and Europe.
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Foppe
09/13/17 4:50:24 AM
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You cant even see the demonstration from the synagogue...
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scar the 1
09/13/17 4:57:33 AM
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Bat178 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Bat178 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
cant nazis just fuck off
unfair is gonna be contrarian at this post i bet

Not until Trump is out of office, unfortunately. He's the reason why they have been doing this shit publicly since earlier this year instead of hiding it like they use to.

Trump isn't in power in Sweden

But he has been emboldening them in North America and Europe.

NMR aren't very concerned with foreign politics. Attributing this to Trump is silly.
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UnfairRepresent
09/13/17 5:15:31 AM
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Foppe posted...
You cant even see the demonstration from the synagogue...

How do you know?
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Foppe
09/13/17 5:20:05 AM
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Because I know where the demonstration will go and where the building is located?
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scar the 1
09/13/17 5:22:15 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Foppe posted...
You cant even see the demonstration from the synagogue...

How do you know?

http://www.gp.se/nyheter/g%C3%B6teborg/h%C3%A4r-ska-nazister-demonstrera-under-bokm%C3%A4ssan-1.4609081

If you're on the top floor of a building, you can probably see them. I don't know which building the synagogue is in, but it's located approximately two blocks from parts of that route.
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UnfairRepresent
09/13/17 5:29:51 AM
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Foppe posted...
Because I know where the demonstration will go and where the building is located?

So it's the Sweden version of the Ground Zero mosque nonsense then?
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scar the 1
09/13/17 5:34:43 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Foppe posted...
Because I know where the demonstration will go and where the building is located?

So it's the Sweden version of the Ground Zero mosque nonsense then?

What was the Ground Zero mosque nonsense?
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UnfairRepresent
09/13/17 5:38:23 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Foppe posted...
Because I know where the demonstration will go and where the building is located?

So it's the Sweden version of the Ground Zero mosque nonsense then?

What was the Ground Zero mosque nonsense?

Muslims in New York had a mosque since the 1970s but it was too small for their growing worshippers. So they bought a new bigger building.

The building was close to Ground Zero so the conservative media got really fucking exicted and spread the news that they are building a mosque at ground zero of 9/11 and infuriated everyone.

Got to the point where most of the American population actively opposed it and Obama was getting railed mercilessly for not stepping in and stopping it.

In reality you can't actually see the mosque from Ground Zero unless standing in very specific spots and having someone point out that small parts of a non descript building in the distance are a mosque. And also in reality There had already been a mosque nearby since the 70s without incident.

Then it was never mentioned again because it's fucking stupid. But all the people who were up in arms about it still to this day have and will never admit fault nor that they were led along by stupid media by a non-story.
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Foppe
09/13/17 5:39:58 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Foppe posted...
Because I know where the demonstration will go and where the building is located?

So it's the Sweden version of the Ground Zero mosque nonsense then?


8gkqIgG
It is a "They are in the same city as us" situation.
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scar the 1
09/13/17 5:42:52 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Well I see how it's similar, but I would say that Jews have much more legitimate cause for concern, considering the fact that NMR are literally antisemites and quite often literal neo Nazis.
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UnfairRepresent
09/13/17 5:43:21 AM
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Yeah looking at that map I don't see how they can change that route.

I mean they could go up and avoid the island the Jews are on but I assume that's not really suitable for a march?
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scar the 1
09/13/17 5:48:34 AM
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The Jewish Communities likely want to prevent the demonstration altogether, or have it relocated to a peripheral suburb at worst.
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UnfairRepresent
09/13/17 5:59:48 AM
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kenio8185 posted...

Basically, the groups that have the strongest reaction against the Nazis are the same group that's giving the Nazis more power.

For sure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fMXdCjv9qo


Liberals will never understand this and conservatives do not wish too
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UnfairRepresent
09/14/17 5:42:42 PM
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bump
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