Current Events > do you believe Germany should pay war reparations to Poland for WWII?

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https://www.independent.co.ug/poland-ready-demand-wwii-reparations-germany-pm/

Warsaw, Poland | AFP | Poland’s rightwing premier Thursday said she believed her country had the right to demand World War II reparations from Germany but added that her government was still mulling its official position.

“The position of the Polish government on war reparations will be officially expressed when a political decision is taken,” Prime Minister Beata Szydlo told the commercial radio station RMF FM .

“In my opinion, Poland has the right to this (reparations) and the Polish state has the right to ask for them,” Szydlo said.

“We are ready to go ahead with this procedure,” she said.

The government disputes the validity of a 1953 resolution by Warsaw’s then communist authorities, who dropped claims against Germany. The deal was made under the diktat of the Soviet Union, the government argues.

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Id say no.

From what i was taught in school it was stuff like this that led to the Nazis gaining power in the first place.
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Poland can ask for whatever it wants. Doesn't mean it's gonna get anything.
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Yes. they should ask Russia too.
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bump
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They already did, think it was somewhere in the region of $800 billion in todays money.

Funny that the country currently flirting with facsism is asking this
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USSR fucked them up pretty bad too, as did Ukraine.
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I'm no expert on what's going on in Europe, but I've heard that a lot of the educated, talented, and skilled workers from the poorer EU countries like Poland have been leaving en masse for the wealthier EU countries where they can get paid more for their skills.

This leads to a "brain drain" or a "skill drain" type effect on the home countries, where the talented workers who would be paying a lot in tax revenue are now gone.
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SuperVegito2487 posted...

Id say no.

From what i was taught in school it was stuff like this that led to the Nazis gaining power in the first place.

Actually that was the democratic world's policy of appeasement. Extreme war reparations set the stage for populace to embrace nazism but it was powerless until U.K. and France enabled them.
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josifrees posted...

SuperVegito2487 posted...

Id say no.

From what i was taught in school it was stuff like this that led to the Nazis gaining power in the first place.

Actually that was the democratic world's policy of appeasement. Extreme war reparations set the stage for populace to embrace nazism but it was powerless until U.K. and France enabled them.

Ill admit i dont remember the specifics, but youre saying that UK and France enabled Super Extreme War Reperations?
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SuperVegito2487 posted...

josifrees posted...

SuperVegito2487 posted...

Id say no.

From what i was taught in school it was stuff like this that led to the Nazis gaining power in the first place.

Actually that was the democratic world's policy of appeasement. Extreme war reparations set the stage for populace to embrace nazism but it was powerless until U.K. and France enabled them.

Ill admit i dont remember the specifics, but youre saying that UK and France enabled Super Extreme War Reperations?

No.

He's saying Hitler rose to power in Germany because of the reparations because Germany was upset, but he wasn't a huge threat until he started doing mini-expansions and no one told him no until it was too late.
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

No.

He's saying Hitler rose to power in Germany because of the reparations because Germany was upset, but he wasn't a huge threat until he started doing mini-expansions and no one told him no until it was too late.

Ahh so UK/France didnt step in until it was too late

Yeah i dont remember the specifics, just the simple list.
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I mean

If there was a time for this it would've been several decades ago. Bit late to ask for it now.
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No, reparations are stupid. The sins of the father are not the sins of the son
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I mean, making Germany pay reparations went so well last time, so why not try again? >.>
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Funkydog posted...

I mean, making Germany pay reparations went so well last time, so why not try again? >.>

Sorry Kim you get to start world war 4 not world war 3.
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Poland sees Germany sending all that money to bail out Greece and they're like "we want some of that"
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mattnd2007 posted...

No, reparations are stupid. The sins of the father are not the sins of the son

But the damage inflicted on the father should be inheritable by the son?
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josifrees posted...

Extreme war reparations set the stage for populace to embrace nazism

Not really. Germany stopped making reparations repayments after 1931, by which time she'd paid only around 21.5 billion marks. (This, I'd point out, was less than half the cost of the destruction inflicted on France during the war; and a good deal of that destruction was down to Germany's spiteful 'scorched earth' policies in 1917 and 1918. There's a reason behind the so-called "extreme" war reparations.) In the same period, Germany received 27 billion gold marks in net capital inflows, mainly from private investors.

Plus, the surge of support at the polls for the NSDAP didn't occur until the Depression -- after the Weimar economy had experienced its "gold plated" years of 1925-28. Even during the Allied occupation of the Rhineland and the Ruhr, the Nazis never managed to win more than 6.5% of the votes in federal elections. (Ruhr workers mostly stuck with the SPD, the Centre Party and the KPD.) Worse, the Nazis' share of the vote actually fell from 6.5% in May 1924 to 3% in December that year, and crashed to only 2.6% in May 1928. In other words, even when memories of German defeat and Versailles were fresher and more bitter, the NSDAP still did badly at the ballot box.

Oh, and cutting against the grain of the argument that anger over the Treaty of Versailles swung the German public heavily behind the ultra-right parties and provided the main focus of electoral support for the Nazis:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_referendum,_1929

It was a referendum on whether Germany should pass a law formally renouncing the Treaty of Versailles and banning the collection of reparations. Fewer than 15% of German voters even bothered to turn out. Again, despite the conventional wisdom in today's school classrooms that Versailles stoked the German public so badly they rushed to vote Nazi out of spite, it seems to demonstrate instead a remarkable apathy about the Treaty as a specific issue.
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People are still whining over what Japan did during WWII and wanting them to give shit. I don't see why Germany gets a pass.

why does japan get a pass over their ww2 shit tho
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pretty sure this kinda stuff was handled 70 years ago when it was relevant
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poland should repay the UK citizens for all the jobs they stole if you wanna play that game.