Current Events > I think abortion should be taught during school sex-ed.

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BaronessaRolab 09/02/17 10:34:27 PM #1:	It is a viable means of birth control and there is nothing wrong with it. Frankly, I wish there were more abortions. It would combat the overpopulation problem. <cite>BaronessaRolab posted [p:885924792] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote>It is a viable means of birth control and there is nothing wrong with it. Frankly, I wish there were more abortions. It would combat the overpopulation problem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mikablu 09/02/17 10:35:13 PM #2:	<cite>Mikablu posted [p:885924826] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BaronessaRolab 09/02/17 10:35:28 PM #3:	Mikablu posted... It isnt bait if it is true. <cite>BaronessaRolab posted [p:885924837] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mikablu posted...</cite> <quote></quote> It isnt bait if it is true.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 09/02/17 10:35:58 PM #4:	you could at least try --- PSN: kazukifafner <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:885924855] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote>you could at least try</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BaronessaRolab 09/02/17 10:36:25 PM #5:	Dragonblade01 posted... you could at least try I would definitely try to have an abortion, but I am not pregnant yet. <cite>BaronessaRolab posted [p:885924877] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>you could at least try</quote> I would definitely try to have an abortion, but I am not pregnant yet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chill02 09/02/17 10:38:06 PM #6:	New User User Since: Aug 2017Karma: 3 --- Ave, true to Caesar. <cite>chill02 posted [p:885924967] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote>New User User Since: Aug 2017Karma: 3</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 09/02/17 10:38:12 PM #7:	BaronessaRolab posted... and there is nothing wrong with it. other people disagree BaronessaRolab posted... wish there were more abortions. It would combat the overpopulation problem. the US already is having a population decline. not as bad as Japan but we aren't booming anymore <cite>Zikten posted [p:885924976] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote>and there is nothing wrong with it.</quote> other people disagree <cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote>wish there were more abortions. It would combat the overpopulation problem.</quote> the US already is having a population decline. not as bad as Japan but we aren't booming anymore</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BaronessaRolab 09/02/17 10:39:46 PM #9:	Zikten posted... BaronessaRolab posted... and there is nothing wrong with it. other people disagree BaronessaRolab posted... wish there were more abortions. It would combat the overpopulation problem. the US already is having a population decline. not as bad as Japan but we aren't booming anymore 1. Thats nice, but their opinions are irrational and based in bronze-age mythology (and therefore should be ignored) 2. Good. <cite>BaronessaRolab posted [p:885925059] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote>and there is nothing wrong with it.</quote> other people disagree <cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote>wish there were more abortions. It would combat the overpopulation problem.</quote> the US already is having a population decline. not as bad as Japan but we aren't booming anymore</quote> 1. Thats nice, but their opinions are irrational and based in bronze-age mythology (and therefore should be ignored) 2. Good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BaronessaRolab 09/02/17 10:40:30 PM #10:	chill02 posted... New User User Since: Aug 2017Karma: 3 Yes, this is my new alt (with almost the exact same name as my main). Your point? <cite>BaronessaRolab posted [p:885925093] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>chill02 posted...</cite> <quote>New User User Since: Aug 2017Karma: 3</quote> Yes, this is my new alt (with almost the exact same name as my main). Your point?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sinroth 09/02/17 10:41:03 PM #11:	BaronessaRolab posted... 1. Thats nice, but their opinions are irrational and based in bronze-age mythology (and therefore should be ignored) The pro-life case isn't necessarily a religious one. --- I live in a big house and it's handy to have a pair of running shoes so that it doesn't take me forever to get from one area of the house to another. <cite>Sinroth posted [p:885925111] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote>1. Thats nice, but their opinions are irrational and based in bronze-age mythology (and therefore should be ignored)</quote> The pro-life case isn't necessarily a religious one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BaronessaRolab 09/02/17 10:42:09 PM #12:	Sinroth posted... BaronessaRolab posted... 1. Thats nice, but their opinions are irrational and based in bronze-age mythology (and therefore should be ignored) The pro-life case isn't necessarily a religious one. Their are either religious or completely illiterate when it comes to biology. Frankly, the latter makes them even more laughable. <cite>BaronessaRolab posted [p:885925163] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sinroth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote>1. Thats nice, but their opinions are irrational and based in bronze-age mythology (and therefore should be ignored)</quote> The pro-life case isn't necessarily a religious one.</quote> Their are either religious or completely illiterate when it comes to biology. Frankly, the latter makes them even more laughable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sinroth 09/02/17 10:44:40 PM #13:	BaronessaRolab posted... Sinroth posted... BaronessaRolab posted... 1. Thats nice, but their opinions are irrational and based in bronze-age mythology (and therefore should be ignored) The pro-life case isn't necessarily a religious one. Their are either religious or completely illiterate when it comes to biology. Frankly, the latter makes them even more laughable. The question of whether a foetus is deserving of moral consideration is a philosophical one. It is not inherently religious or scientific. --- I live in a big house and it's handy to have a pair of running shoes so that it doesn't take me forever to get from one area of the house to another. <cite>Sinroth posted [p:885925267] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sinroth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote>1. Thats nice, but their opinions are irrational and based in bronze-age mythology (and therefore should be ignored)</quote> The pro-life case isn't necessarily a religious one.</quote> Their are either religious or completely illiterate when it comes to biology. Frankly, the latter makes them even more laughable.</quote> The question of whether a foetus is deserving of moral consideration is a philosophical one. It is not inherently religious or scientific.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 09/02/17 10:44:50 PM #14:	I don't think sex ed needs to go as far as to cover abortion as abortion is something decided after sex rather than something you plan beforehand. Sex ed should stick to teaching about sex and include birth control & contraceptives. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:885925275] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote>I don't think sex ed needs to go as far as to cover abortion as abortion is something decided after sex rather than something you plan beforehand. Sex ed should stick to teaching about sex and include birth control & contraceptives.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nativengine 09/02/17 10:44:56 PM #15:	BaronessaRolab posted... chill02 posted... New User User Since: Aug 2017Karma: 3 Yes, this is my new alt (with almost the exact same name as my main). Your point? You don't have the balls to put your main on the line. You knew full well this was a highly volatile subject but chose an alt instead of putting your main on the line. It's cowardice and deserves no respect. <cite>nativengine posted [p:885925286] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote><cite>chill02 posted...</cite> <quote>New User User Since: Aug 2017Karma: 3</quote> Yes, this is my new alt (with almost the exact same name as my main). Your point?</quote> You don't have the balls to put your main on the line. You knew full well this was a highly volatile subject but chose an alt instead of putting your main on the line. It's cowardice and deserves no respect.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paragon21XX 09/02/17 10:52:42 PM #17:	I would teach them all there is to know about abortions so that they can all make a true fully informed decision if the need ever arose. --- Hmm... <cite>Paragon21XX posted [p:885925634] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote>I would teach them all there is to know about abortions so that they can all make a true fully informed decision if the need ever arose.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BaronessaRolab 09/02/17 10:55:13 PM #18:	Sinroth posted... BaronessaRolab posted... Sinroth posted... BaronessaRolab posted... 1. Thats nice, but their opinions are irrational and based in bronze-age mythology (and therefore should be ignored) The pro-life case isn't necessarily a religious one. Their are either religious or completely illiterate when it comes to biology. Frankly, the latter makes them even more laughable. The question of whether a foetus is deserving of moral consideration is a philosophical one. It is not inherently religious or scientific. No, it is biological. A fetus is an un-feeling cluster of cells, and personifying it is a laughable concept. nativengine posted... BaronessaRolab posted... chill02 posted... New User User Since: Aug 2017Karma: 3 Yes, this is my new alt (with almost the exact same name as my main). Your point? You don't have the balls to put your main on the line. You knew full well this was a highly volatile subject but chose an alt instead of putting your main on the line. It's cowardice and deserves no respect. lol grow up. <cite>BaronessaRolab posted [p:885925730] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sinroth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sinroth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote>1. Thats nice, but their opinions are irrational and based in bronze-age mythology (and therefore should be ignored)</quote> The pro-life case isn't necessarily a religious one.</quote> Their are either religious or completely illiterate when it comes to biology. Frankly, the latter makes them even more laughable.</quote> The question of whether a foetus is deserving of moral consideration is a philosophical one. It is not inherently religious or scientific.</quote> No, it is biological. A fetus is an un-feeling cluster of cells, and personifying it is a laughable concept. <cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote><cite>chill02 posted...</cite> <quote>New User User Since: Aug 2017Karma: 3</quote> Yes, this is my new alt (with almost the exact same name as my main). Your point?</quote> You don't have the balls to put your main on the line. You knew full well this was a highly volatile subject but chose an alt instead of putting your main on the line. It's cowardice and deserves no respect.</quote> lol grow up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BaronessaRolab 09/02/17 10:55:29 PM #19:	CrimsonRage posted... nativengine posted... BaronessaRolab posted... chill02 posted... New User User Since: Aug 2017Karma: 3 Yes, this is my new alt (with almost the exact same name as my main). Your point? You don't have the balls to put your main on the line. You knew full well this was a highly volatile subject but chose an alt instead of putting your main on the line. It's cowardice and deserves no respect. Given the username, this is probably @CountessRolab no shit. <cite>BaronessaRolab posted [p:885925745] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>CrimsonRage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote><cite>chill02 posted...</cite> <quote>New User User Since: Aug 2017Karma: 3</quote> Yes, this is my new alt (with almost the exact same name as my main). Your point?</quote> You don't have the balls to put your main on the line. You knew full well this was a highly volatile subject but chose an alt instead of putting your main on the line. It's cowardice and deserves no respect.</quote> Given the username, this is probably @CountessRolab</quote> no shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sinroth 09/02/17 11:02:14 PM #20:	BaronessaRolab posted... No, it is biological. A fetus is an un-feeling cluster of cells, and personifying it is a laughable concept. That is a philosophical argument. This is saying that being an unfeeling cluster of cells is sufficient grounds to say you aren't worthy of moral considerations. It also needs more nuance. Flowers and animals and so on are feeling clusters of cells, yet clearly don't have the same moral considerations as humans. A full explication of why this specific characteristic is sufficient to justify abortion goes well beyond mere biology. --- I live in a big house and it's handy to have a pair of running shoes so that it doesn't take me forever to get from one area of the house to another. <cite>Sinroth posted [p:885926063] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote>No, it is biological. A fetus is an un-feeling cluster of cells, and personifying it is a laughable concept.</quote> That is a philosophical argument. This is saying that being an unfeeling cluster of cells is sufficient grounds to say you aren't worthy of moral considerations. It also needs more nuance. Flowers and animals and so on are feeling clusters of cells, yet clearly don't have the same moral considerations as humans. A full explication of why this specific characteristic is sufficient to justify abortion goes well beyond mere biology.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 09/02/17 11:03:01 PM #21:	nothing wrong with tc's statement <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:885926106] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote>nothing wrong with tc's statement</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Near_ 09/02/17 11:03:59 PM #22:	Agreed, TC. Students need to be made aware of this option. --- http://i.imgur.com/QoIYepz.gif Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not after you. <cite>_Near_ posted [p:885926159] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote>Agreed, TC. Students need to be made aware of this option.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lightsasori 09/02/17 11:05:16 PM #23:	I honestly think so as well, though more emphasis on safe sex. --- "Yare yare daze" ~ Jotaro Kujo "Children are pure, they know who's the strongest." ~ MaskDeSmith <cite>Lightsasori posted [p:885926223] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote>I honestly think so as well, though more emphasis on safe sex.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 09/02/17 11:07:03 PM #24:	$500 isn't really "viable" at all. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:885926310] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote>$500 isn't really "viable" at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 09/02/17 11:10:13 PM #25:	Questionmarktarius posted... $500 isn't really "viable" at all. Certainly is much cheaper than having the child. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:885926436] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>$500 isn't really "viable" at all.</quote> Certainly is much cheaper than having the child.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Near_ 09/02/17 11:10:25 PM #26:	Questionmarktarius posted... $500 isn't really "viable" at all. compared to raising a child? lmfao --- http://i.imgur.com/QoIYepz.gif Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not after you. <cite>_Near_ posted [p:885926447] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>$500 isn't really "viable" at all.</quote> compared to raising a child? lmfao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BaronessaRolab 09/02/17 11:15:45 PM #27:	Sinroth posted... BaronessaRolab posted... No, it is biological. A fetus is an un-feeling cluster of cells, and personifying it is a laughable concept. That is a philosophical argument. This is saying that being an unfeeling cluster of cells is sufficient grounds to say you aren't worthy of moral considerations. It also needs more nuance. Flowers and animals and so on are feeling clusters of cells, yet clearly don't have the same moral considerations as humans. A full explication of why this specific characteristic is sufficient to justify abortion goes well beyond mere biology. It is literally a blob of cells. Sure, you can argue it has rights, but you can also argue a plant has rights. You can argue anything, but that doesnt make your argument coherent or valid. <cite>BaronessaRolab posted [p:885926668] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sinroth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote>No, it is biological. A fetus is an un-feeling cluster of cells, and personifying it is a laughable concept.</quote> That is a philosophical argument. This is saying that being an unfeeling cluster of cells is sufficient grounds to say you aren't worthy of moral considerations. It also needs more nuance. Flowers and animals and so on are feeling clusters of cells, yet clearly don't have the same moral considerations as humans. A full explication of why this specific characteristic is sufficient to justify abortion goes well beyond mere biology.</quote> It is literally a blob of cells. Sure, you can argue it has rights, but you can also argue a plant has rights. You can argue anything, but that doesnt make your argument coherent or valid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sinroth 09/02/17 11:21:08 PM #28:	BaronessaRolab posted... Sinroth posted... BaronessaRolab posted... No, it is biological. A fetus is an un-feeling cluster of cells, and personifying it is a laughable concept. That is a philosophical argument. This is saying that being an unfeeling cluster of cells is sufficient grounds to say you aren't worthy of moral considerations. It also needs more nuance. Flowers and animals and so on are feeling clusters of cells, yet clearly don't have the same moral considerations as humans. A full explication of why this specific characteristic is sufficient to justify abortion goes well beyond mere biology. It is literally a blob of cells. Sure, you can argue it has rights, but you can also argue a plant has rights. You can argue anything, but that doesnt make your argument coherent or valid. But by saying that certain characteristics qualify or disqualify you from having certain moral rights, you are making a philosophical argument. --- I live in a big house and it's handy to have a pair of running shoes so that it doesn't take me forever to get from one area of the house to another. <cite>Sinroth posted [p:885926919] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sinroth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote>No, it is biological. A fetus is an un-feeling cluster of cells, and personifying it is a laughable concept.</quote> That is a philosophical argument. This is saying that being an unfeeling cluster of cells is sufficient grounds to say you aren't worthy of moral considerations. It also needs more nuance. Flowers and animals and so on are feeling clusters of cells, yet clearly don't have the same moral considerations as humans. A full explication of why this specific characteristic is sufficient to justify abortion goes well beyond mere biology.</quote> It is literally a blob of cells. Sure, you can argue it has rights, but you can also argue a plant has rights. You can argue anything, but that doesnt make your argument coherent or valid.</quote> But by saying that certain characteristics qualify or disqualify you from having certain moral rights, you are making a philosophical argument.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BaronessaRolab 09/02/17 11:23:23 PM #29:	Sinroth posted... BaronessaRolab posted... Sinroth posted... BaronessaRolab posted... No, it is biological. A fetus is an un-feeling cluster of cells, and personifying it is a laughable concept. That is a philosophical argument. This is saying that being an unfeeling cluster of cells is sufficient grounds to say you aren't worthy of moral considerations. It also needs more nuance. Flowers and animals and so on are feeling clusters of cells, yet clearly don't have the same moral considerations as humans. A full explication of why this specific characteristic is sufficient to justify abortion goes well beyond mere biology. It is literally a blob of cells. Sure, you can argue it has rights, but you can also argue a plant has rights. You can argue anything, but that doesnt make your argument coherent or valid. But by saying that certain characteristics qualify or disqualify you from having certain moral rights, you are making a philosophical argument. Ok, whatever. <cite>BaronessaRolab posted [p:885927015] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sinroth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sinroth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote>No, it is biological. A fetus is an un-feeling cluster of cells, and personifying it is a laughable concept.</quote> That is a philosophical argument. This is saying that being an unfeeling cluster of cells is sufficient grounds to say you aren't worthy of moral considerations. It also needs more nuance. Flowers and animals and so on are feeling clusters of cells, yet clearly don't have the same moral considerations as humans. A full explication of why this specific characteristic is sufficient to justify abortion goes well beyond mere biology.</quote> It is literally a blob of cells. Sure, you can argue it has rights, but you can also argue a plant has rights. You can argue anything, but that doesnt make your argument coherent or valid.</quote> But by saying that certain characteristics qualify or disqualify you from having certain moral rights, you are making a philosophical argument.</quote> Ok, whatever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Milkman5 09/02/17 11:25:41 PM #30:	BaronessaRolab posted... Frankly, I wish there were more abortions. It would combat the overpopulation problem. The birth rate is plummeting in the United States. More people are dying than being born. This is the case for Europe, Japan, America and so on. Overpopulation is a myth and every country that actively gets abortions is not one that is overpopulated. <cite>Milkman5 posted [p:885927096] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote>Frankly, I wish there were more abortions. It would combat the overpopulation problem.</quote> The birth rate is plummeting in the United States. More people are dying than being born. This is the case for Europe, Japan, America and so on. Overpopulation is a myth and every country that actively gets abortions is not one that is overpopulated.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 09/02/17 11:26:03 PM #31:	most people on CE support it to disgusting extents, most people on this board also agree with the OP --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:885927106] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote>most people on CE support it to disgusting extents, most people on this board also agree with the OP</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BaronessaRolab 09/02/17 11:27:09 PM #32:	Milkman5 posted... BaronessaRolab posted... Frankly, I wish there were more abortions. It would combat the overpopulation problem. The birth rate is plummeting in the United States. More people are dying than being born. This is the case for Europe, Japan, America and so on. Good. <cite>BaronessaRolab posted [p:885927140] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>Milkman5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote>Frankly, I wish there were more abortions. It would combat the overpopulation problem.</quote> The birth rate is plummeting in the United States. More people are dying than being born. This is the case for Europe, Japan, America and so on.</quote> Good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I4NRulez 09/02/17 11:29:26 PM #33:	Abortion is NOT a viable option for birth control. Its supposed to be a last ditch option for people. Teaching kids about proper contraceptives and sex ed often keeps abortion numbers low since kids and people know how to prevent pregnancies --- The night brims with defiled scum,and is permeated by their rotten stench. Just think. Now you're all set to hunt and kill to your heart's content. <cite>I4NRulez posted [p:885927240] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote>Abortion is NOT a viable option for birth control. Its supposed to be a last ditch option for people. Teaching kids about proper contraceptives and sex ed often keeps abortion numbers low since kids and people know how to prevent pregnancies</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Milkman5 09/02/17 11:31:01 PM #34:	It's only good if you don't like those Countries. A country with a large elderly population and a small young workforce is a recipe for disaster. It's the main reason everyone our age won't get social security, because there were more baby boomers than millennials and that trend will only continue. The UN has even come up with solutions which is to erode and destroy Japan and Europe etc with Islamists and Islamic labor. You can read about it on their website lmao <cite>Milkman5 posted [p:885927306] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote>It's only good if you don't like those Countries. A country with a large elderly population and a small young workforce is a recipe for disaster. It's the main reason everyone our age won't get social security, because there were more baby boomers than millennials and that trend will only continue. The UN has even come up with solutions which is to erode and destroy Japan and Europe etc with Islamists and Islamic labor. You can read about it on their website lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BaronessaRolab 09/02/17 11:32:33 PM #35:	I4NRulez posted... Abortion is NOT a viable option for birth control. Its supposed to be a last ditch option for people. Teaching kids about proper contraceptives and sex ed often keeps abortion numbers low since kids and people know how to prevent pregnancies I think it should be the first option. <cite>BaronessaRolab posted [p:885927368] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>I4NRulez posted...</cite> <quote>Abortion is NOT a viable option for birth control. Its supposed to be a last ditch option for people. Teaching kids about proper contraceptives and sex ed often keeps abortion numbers low since kids and people know how to prevent pregnancies</quote> I think it should be the first option.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BaronessaRolab 09/02/17 11:33:10 PM #36:	Milkman5 posted... The UN has even come up with solutions which is to erode and destroy Japan and Europe etc with Islamists and Islamic labor. You can read about it on their website lmao You dropped your tinfoil hat. <cite>BaronessaRolab posted [p:885927396] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>Milkman5 posted...</cite> <quote> The UN has even come up with solutions which is to erode and destroy Japan and Europe etc with Islamists and Islamic labor. You can read about it on their website lmao</quote> You dropped your tinfoil hat.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 09/02/17 11:43:21 PM #37:	BaronessaRolab posted... I4NRulez posted... Abortion is NOT a viable option for birth control. Its supposed to be a last ditch option for people. Teaching kids about proper contraceptives and sex ed often keeps abortion numbers low since kids and people know how to prevent pregnancies I think it should be the first option. Fuckin' incompetent statement. The first option LOL?!!! Ideally, the first option would be to attempt proper protection. An abortion is a hassle, not as much hassle as having a kid, mind you, but it would be much more efficient to use a condom, and therefor lessen the probability of having to go to a clinic to get the abortion. I don't oppose abortion, so don't get that dumb fuck idea. In nearly ALL cases, I fully support and champion abortion. THE ONLY time I oppose it, is if the mother waits till she's, like, 6 months pregnant, and then decides to abort. But that never happens, so not really even worth mentioning. --- PSN: KillingLegacy Gamertag: Killing Legacy <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:885927841] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote><cite>I4NRulez posted...</cite> <quote>Abortion is NOT a viable option for birth control. Its supposed to be a last ditch option for people. Teaching kids about proper contraceptives and sex ed often keeps abortion numbers low since kids and people know how to prevent pregnancies</quote> I think it should be the first option.</quote> Fuckin' incompetent statement. The first option LOL?!!! Ideally, the first option would be to attempt proper protection. An abortion is a hassle, not as much hassle as having a kid, mind you, but it would be much more efficient to use a condom, and therefor lessen the probability of having to go to a clinic to get the abortion. I don't oppose abortion, so don't get that dumb fuck idea. In nearly ALL cases, I fully support and champion abortion. THE ONLY time I oppose it, is if the mother waits till she's, like, 6 months pregnant, and then decides to abort. But that never happens, so not really even worth mentioning.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BaronessaRolab 09/02/17 11:46:35 PM #38:	Dyinglegacy posted... BaronessaRolab posted... I4NRulez posted... Abortion is NOT a viable option for birth control. Its supposed to be a last ditch option for people. Teaching kids about proper contraceptives and sex ed often keeps abortion numbers low since kids and people know how to prevent pregnancies I think it should be the first option. Fuckin' incompetent statement. The first option LOL?!!! Ideally, the first option would be to attempt proper protection. An abortion is a hassle, not as much hassle as having a kid, mind you, but it would be much more efficient to use a condom, and therefor lessen the probability of having to go to a clinic to get the abortion. I don't oppose abortion, so don't get that dumb fuck idea. In nearly ALL cases, I fully support and champion abortion. THE ONLY time I oppose it, is if the mother waits till she's, like, 6 months pregnant, and then decides to abort. But that never happens, so not really even worth mentioning. Abortion is good for the soul. <cite>BaronessaRolab posted [p:885927960] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dyinglegacy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote><cite>I4NRulez posted...</cite> <quote>Abortion is NOT a viable option for birth control. Its supposed to be a last ditch option for people. Teaching kids about proper contraceptives and sex ed often keeps abortion numbers low since kids and people know how to prevent pregnancies</quote> I think it should be the first option.</quote> Fuckin' incompetent statement. The first option LOL?!!! Ideally, the first option would be to attempt proper protection. An abortion is a hassle, not as much hassle as having a kid, mind you, but it would be much more efficient to use a condom, and therefor lessen the probability of having to go to a clinic to get the abortion. I don't oppose abortion, so don't get that dumb fuck idea. In nearly ALL cases, I fully support and champion abortion. THE ONLY time I oppose it, is if the mother waits till she's, like, 6 months pregnant, and then decides to abort. But that never happens, so not really even worth mentioning.</quote> Abortion is good for the soul.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 09/02/17 11:47:58 PM #39:	Hey, whatever you say. --- PSN: KillingLegacy Gamertag: Killing Legacy <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:885928013] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote>Hey, whatever you say.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UncleBourbon33 09/02/17 11:50:19 PM #40:	Every living thing is a cluster of cells if you want to get down to it. It's not a valid argument for abortion. --- http://i.imgur.com/HtxqKRp.gif <cite>UncleBourbon33 posted [p:885928112] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote>Every living thing is a cluster of cells if you want to get down to it. It's not a valid argument for abortion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 09/02/17 11:53:48 PM #41:	UncleBourbon33 posted... Every living thing is a cluster of cells if you want to get down to it. It's not a valid argument for abortion. It's a circle argument. I think the difference is that a fetus isn't sentient. Yes, it's alive, and yes it is sentient potential. However, it's not there yet. You either agree with abortion, or you don't. I probably wouldn't do it myself, unless there was some sort of severe birth anomaly detected (see cyclopia), but I wouldn't stop someone else from doing it. --- PSN: KillingLegacy Gamertag: Killing Legacy <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:885928246] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>UncleBourbon33 posted...</cite> <quote>Every living thing is a cluster of cells if you want to get down to it. It's not a valid argument for abortion.</quote> It's a circle argument. I think the difference is that a fetus isn't sentient. Yes, it's alive, and yes it is sentient potential. However, it's not there yet. You either agree with abortion, or you don't. I probably wouldn't do it myself, unless there was some sort of severe birth anomaly detected (see cyclopia), but I wouldn't stop someone else from doing it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BaronessaRolab 09/02/17 11:56:04 PM #42:	Dyinglegacy posted... Hey, whatever you say. Abortion is one of those things that everyone should experience at least once. UncleBourbon33 posted... Every living thing is a cluster of cells if you want to get down to it. It's not a valid argument for abortion. Ok, fine. A fetus is a cluster of cells without a bran and is incapable of thought or feeling pain. I didnt realize I had to spell it out for you like that. <cite>BaronessaRolab posted [p:885928340] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dyinglegacy posted...</cite> <quote>Hey, whatever you say.</quote> Abortion is one of those things that everyone should experience at least once. <cite>UncleBourbon33 posted...</cite> <quote>Every living thing is a cluster of cells if you want to get down to it. It's not a valid argument for abortion.</quote> Ok, fine. A fetus is a cluster of cells without a bran and is incapable of thought or feeling pain. I didnt realize I had to spell it out for you like that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sinroth 09/02/17 11:57:50 PM #43:	Dyinglegacy posted... I think the difference is that a fetus isn't sentient. Yes, it's alive, and yes it is sentient potential. However, it's not there yet. Sentience is quite vague though. What characteristics make you sentient? BaronessaRolab posted... Ok, fine. A fetus is a cluster of cells without a bran and is incapable of thought or feeling pain. I didnt realize I had to spell it out for you like that. Is it OK to kill people with congenital analgesia? Is it OK to kill people asleep or in a coma, so long as you do it quickly so they don't feel it? --- I live in a big house and it's handy to have a pair of running shoes so that it doesn't take me forever to get from one area of the house to another. <cite>Sinroth posted [p:885928416] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dyinglegacy posted...</cite> <quote> I think the difference is that a fetus isn't sentient. Yes, it's alive, and yes it is sentient potential. However, it's not there yet. </quote> Sentience is quite vague though. What characteristics make you sentient? <cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote> Ok, fine. A fetus is a cluster of cells without a bran and is incapable of thought or feeling pain. I didnt realize I had to spell it out for you like that.</quote> Is it OK to kill people with congenital analgesia? Is it OK to kill people asleep or in a coma, so long as you do it quickly so they don't feel it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 09/03/17 12:00:43 AM #44:	BaronessaRolab posted... cluster of cells without a bran and is incapable of thought or feeling pain. That describes most people. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:885928547] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote>cluster of cells without a bran and is incapable of thought or feeling pain.</quote> That describes most people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BaronessaRolab 09/03/17 12:01:20 AM #45:	Sinroth posted... Dyinglegacy posted... I think the difference is that a fetus isn't sentient. Yes, it's alive, and yes it is sentient potential. However, it's not there yet. Sentience is quite vague though. What characteristics make you sentient? BaronessaRolab posted... Ok, fine. A fetus is a cluster of cells without a bran and is incapable of thought or feeling pain. I didnt realize I had to spell it out for you like that. Is it OK to kill people with congenital analgesia? Is it OK to kill people asleep or in a coma, so long as you do it quickly so they don't feel it? A fetus isnt a person,, so your argument is invalid. <cite>BaronessaRolab posted [p:885928578] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sinroth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dyinglegacy posted...</cite> <quote> I think the difference is that a fetus isn't sentient. Yes, it's alive, and yes it is sentient potential. However, it's not there yet. </quote> Sentience is quite vague though. What characteristics make you sentient? <cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote> Ok, fine. A fetus is a cluster of cells without a bran and is incapable of thought or feeling pain. I didnt realize I had to spell it out for you like that.</quote> Is it OK to kill people with congenital analgesia? Is it OK to kill people asleep or in a coma, so long as you do it quickly so they don't feel it?</quote> A fetus isnt a person,, so your argument is invalid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sinroth 09/03/17 12:07:50 AM #46:	BaronessaRolab posted... A fetus isnt a person,, so your argument is invalid. If your argument against the moral personhood of a foetus is that it can't feel pain, then you can apply the same reasoning to conclude that human beings in comas and human beings with congenital analgesia also lack moral personhood. --- I live in a big house and it's handy to have a pair of running shoes so that it doesn't take me forever to get from one area of the house to another. <cite>Sinroth posted [p:885928856] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote> A fetus isnt a person,, so your argument is invalid.</quote> If your argument against the moral personhood of a foetus is that it can't feel pain, then you can apply the same reasoning to conclude that human beings in comas and human beings with congenital analgesia also lack moral personhood.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BaronessaRolab 09/03/17 12:09:27 AM #47:	Sinroth posted... BaronessaRolab posted... A fetus isnt a person,, so your argument is invalid. If your argument against the moral personhood of a foetus is that it can't feel pain, then you can apply the same reasoning to conclude that human beings in comas and human beings with congenital analgesia also lack moral personhood. Has ever had a human brain = a human Has never had a human brain = not a human Jesus Christ. lmao <cite>BaronessaRolab posted [p:885928919] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sinroth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote> A fetus isnt a person,, so your argument is invalid.</quote> If your argument against the moral personhood of a foetus is that it can't feel pain, then you can apply the same reasoning to conclude that human beings in comas and human beings with congenital analgesia also lack moral personhood.</quote> Has ever had a human brain = a human Has never had a human brain = not a human Jesus Christ. lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sinroth 09/03/17 12:14:49 AM #48:	BaronessaRolab posted... Sinroth posted... BaronessaRolab posted... A fetus isnt a person,, so your argument is invalid. If your argument against the moral personhood of a foetus is that it can't feel pain, then you can apply the same reasoning to conclude that human beings in comas and human beings with congenital analgesia also lack moral personhood. Has ever had a human brain = a human Has never had a human brain = not a human Jesus Christ. lmao Your argument has changed now. Initially it was "able to feel pain", but now it is "has ever had a human brain". Are you now talking about being human, or being a moral person? Because a foetus is unequivocally human, but what we're debating is whether or not a foetus qualifies as a moral person. A corpse has had a human brain. Does that mean it is deserving of the same protections as a full-grown human? A corpse has less human functionality, present or future, than a foetus. --- I live in a big house and it's handy to have a pair of running shoes so that it doesn't take me forever to get from one area of the house to another. <cite>Sinroth posted [p:885929162] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sinroth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote> A fetus isnt a person,, so your argument is invalid.</quote> If your argument against the moral personhood of a foetus is that it can't feel pain, then you can apply the same reasoning to conclude that human beings in comas and human beings with congenital analgesia also lack moral personhood.</quote> Has ever had a human brain = a human Has never had a human brain = not a human Jesus Christ. lmao</quote> Your argument has changed now. Initially it was "able to feel pain", but now it is "has ever had a human brain". Are you now talking about being human, or being a moral person? Because a foetus is unequivocally human, but what we're debating is whether or not a foetus qualifies as a moral person. A corpse has had a human brain. Does that mean it is deserving of the same protections as a full-grown human? A corpse has less human functionality, present or future, than a foetus.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BaronessaRolab 09/03/17 12:20:53 AM #49:	Sinroth posted... BaronessaRolab posted... Sinroth posted... BaronessaRolab posted... A fetus isnt a person,, so your argument is invalid. If your argument against the moral personhood of a foetus is that it can't feel pain, then you can apply the same reasoning to conclude that human beings in comas and human beings with congenital analgesia also lack moral personhood. Has ever had a human brain = a human Has never had a human brain = not a human Jesus Christ. lmao Your argument has changed now. Initially it was "able to feel pain", but now it is "has ever had a human brain". Are you now talking about being human, or being a moral person? Because a foetus is unequivocally human, but what we're debating is whether or not a foetus qualifies as a moral person. A corpse has had a human brain. Does that mean it is deserving of the same protections as a full-grown human? A corpse has less human functionality, present or future, than a foetus. I didnt read your post, but you are making this way more complicated than it is. <cite>BaronessaRolab posted [p:885929415] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sinroth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sinroth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote> A fetus isnt a person,, so your argument is invalid.</quote> If your argument against the moral personhood of a foetus is that it can't feel pain, then you can apply the same reasoning to conclude that human beings in comas and human beings with congenital analgesia also lack moral personhood.</quote> Has ever had a human brain = a human Has never had a human brain = not a human Jesus Christ. lmao</quote> Your argument has changed now. Initially it was "able to feel pain", but now it is "has ever had a human brain". Are you now talking about being human, or being a moral person? Because a foetus is unequivocally human, but what we're debating is whether or not a foetus qualifies as a moral person. A corpse has had a human brain. Does that mean it is deserving of the same protections as a full-grown human? A corpse has less human functionality, present or future, than a foetus.</quote> I didnt read your post, but you are making this way more complicated than it is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Waluigi7 09/03/17 12:22:36 AM #50:	Milkman5 posted... It's only good if you don't like those Countries. A country with a large elderly population and a small young workforce is a recipe for disaster. It's the main reason everyone our age won't get social security, because there were more baby boomers than millennials and that trend will only continue. The UN has even come up with solutions which is to erode and destroy Japan and Europe etc with Islamists and Islamic labor. You can read about it on their website lmao Bro, if you want people to stop calling you a conservative you should stop making shitposts like this. --- Gonna go out on a limb and guess that you are a trump supporter -UnfairRepresent <cite>Waluigi7 posted [p:885929494] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>Milkman5 posted...</cite> <quote>It's only good if you don't like those Countries. A country with a large elderly population and a small young workforce is a recipe for disaster. It's the main reason everyone our age won't get social security, because there were more baby boomers than millennials and that trend will only continue. The UN has even come up with solutions which is to erode and destroy Japan and Europe etc with Islamists and Islamic labor. You can read about it on their website lmao</quote> Bro, if you want people to stop calling you a conservative you should stop making shitposts like this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sinroth 09/03/17 12:23:03 AM #51:	BaronessaRolab posted... Sinroth posted... BaronessaRolab posted... Sinroth posted... BaronessaRolab posted... A fetus isnt a person,, so your argument is invalid. If your argument against the moral personhood of a foetus is that it can't feel pain, then you can apply the same reasoning to conclude that human beings in comas and human beings with congenital analgesia also lack moral personhood. Has ever had a human brain = a human Has never had a human brain = not a human Jesus Christ. lmao Your argument has changed now. Initially it was "able to feel pain", but now it is "has ever had a human brain". Are you now talking about being human, or being a moral person? Because a foetus is unequivocally human, but what we're debating is whether or not a foetus qualifies as a moral person. A corpse has had a human brain. Does that mean it is deserving of the same protections as a full-grown human? A corpse has less human functionality, present or future, than a foetus. I didnt read your post, but you are making this way more complicated than it is. It's a pretty short (and simple, I think) post, but if you don't want to respond to it then that's algood. Your argument supporting abortion changed between posts, so I just asked some simple follow ups to clarify what you meant. --- I live in a big house and it's handy to have a pair of running shoes so that it doesn't take me forever to get from one area of the house to another. <cite>Sinroth posted [p:885929514] in I think ab... [t:75735836]...</cite> <quote><cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sinroth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sinroth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BaronessaRolab posted...</cite> <quote> A fetus isnt a person,, so your argument is invalid.</quote> If your argument against the moral personhood of a foetus is that it can't feel pain, then you can apply the same reasoning to conclude that human beings in comas and human beings with congenital analgesia also lack moral personhood.</quote> Has ever had a human brain = a human Has never had a human brain = not a human Jesus Christ. lmao</quote> Your argument has changed now. Initially it was "able to feel pain", but now it is "has ever had a human brain". Are you now talking about being human, or being a moral person? Because a foetus is unequivocally human, but what we're debating is whether or not a foetus qualifies as a moral person. A corpse has had a human brain. Does that mean it is deserving of the same protections as a full-grown human? A corpse has less human functionality, present or future, than a foetus.</quote> I didnt read your post, but you are making this way more complicated than it is.</quote> It's a pretty short (and simple, I think) post, but if you don't want to respond to it then that's algood. Your argument supporting abortion changed between posts, so I just asked some simple follow ups to clarify what you meant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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