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Philoktetes
08/30/17 1:08:43 PM
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Bowling lanes are standardized. They are the same in every single bowling alley in the world. The width is the same, the length is the same. Bowlers can use their own bowling balls irregardless of where they play.
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Mizznox
08/30/17 1:11:27 PM
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Because they're not going to make a perfect throw every single time.
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krazychao5
08/30/17 1:11:48 PM
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Philoktetes posted...
Bowling lanes are standardized. They are the same in every single bowling alley in the world. The width is the same, the length is the same. Bowlers can use their own bowling balls irregardless of where they play.

Obviously you haven't done research because each lane is different, even lanes in the same alley.

Something called oil patterns, and they're the difference maker for professional bowlers. They can see the oil pattern while normal bowlers wouldn't be able to distinguish it.
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Anteaterking
08/30/17 1:12:11 PM
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Mistere Man
08/30/17 1:13:03 PM
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Same reason basketball players can miss free throws, and that is human error.
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ToonLinkWithGun
08/30/17 1:13:51 PM
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Why don't professional golfers get a hole in one every time?

Why don't professional gamers always win?
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Twin3Turbo
08/30/17 1:16:07 PM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Why don't professional golfers get a hole in one every time?

Why don't professional gamers always win?

The courses are different and the weather / wind conditions can vary day to day

Professional gamers are playing against another human, bowlers are not

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DarthAragorn
08/30/17 1:16:28 PM
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Why don't professional pitchers always pitch to their target area
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voldothegr8
08/30/17 1:16:31 PM
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Oil patterns and humans aren't perfect machines. Why doesn't every NFL kicker make 100% from the 30, why doesn't every basketball player make all free throws, why doesn't every dart player hit their target every time, etc.
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Philoktetes
08/30/17 1:22:18 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
Why don't professional NBA players make every free throw?



theyre too entitled to practice the fundamentals

they just wanna be superstars
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Romulox28
08/30/17 1:35:27 PM
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lol @ people comparing bowling to playing in the NBA or MLB

bowling has no conditional changes, there's nobody blocking you, you only bowl 10 frames, you dont have to run or physically exert yourself in any way other than moving your arm.

it's literally just mastering one motion and replicating it. i used to be on a bowling team with my dad in middle school and i figured out that if i bowled in a certain position that i was guaranteed to get it to go right to the 2nd pin, which would sometimes give me a strike.

i remember one game bowling like a 200 just doing the same repetitive motion. and this is an 11 or 12 year old with no actual experience; imagine if i did this as my profession full time
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FaytlessHearts
08/30/17 1:36:20 PM
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Why can't football players throw a ball without breaking their fragile bones?
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Philoktetes
08/30/17 1:37:18 PM
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because people are trying to stop you throwing the ball in football

no one is in your way in bowling
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voldothegr8
08/30/17 1:40:12 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
lol @ people comparing bowling to playing in the NBA or MLB

bowling has no conditional changes, there's nobody blocking you, you only bowl 10 frames, you dont have to run or physically exert yourself in any way other than moving your arm.

it's literally just mastering one motion and replicating it. i used to be on a bowling team with my dad in middle school and i figured out that if i bowled in a certain position that i was guaranteed to get it to go right to the 2nd pin, which would sometimes give me a strike.

i remember one game bowling like a 200 just doing the same repetitive motion. and this is an 11 or 12 year old with no actual experience; imagine if i did this as my profession full time

Again, there's all kinds of oil patterns and humans aren't machines thus a bowlers release isn't going to be exactly the same every time.
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FaytlessHearts
08/30/17 1:41:44 PM
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Philoktetes posted...
because people are trying to stop you throwing the ball in football

no one is in your way in bowling

I mean, I guess. I think football requires zero skill though. Anyone can throw a ball and catch it. Anyone. Bowling is the same lol anyone can throw a ball.
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Philoktetes
08/30/17 1:42:45 PM
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lol @ football requires zero skill


stop trolling my topic
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FaytlessHearts
08/30/17 1:44:33 PM
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The Eko
08/30/17 1:54:24 PM
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Philoktetes posted...
irregardless

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Phantom36
08/30/17 1:55:17 PM
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Here's the real answer:

PBA has certain standardized oil patterns on the lanes they use, and they are much more difficult to bowl than the lanes at your local alley.

"House oil patterns," as they're called, used at your local alley are designed to allow a much larger margin of error and still allow for the ball to hook into the pocket because the middle of the lane is oiled more than the outside. TC, have you ever gone bowling and missed your shot by 2 or 3 boards, but the ball still hooked into the pocket and you still got a strike? Of course you have. We all have. It's designed like this, or it would be too frustrating for the average bowler, not to mention a novice.

On a lane oiled like the ones in PBA, that would never happen.
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InstaReturns
08/30/17 2:00:17 PM
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As someone who has bowled from state to national, oil patterns. Synthetic lanes vs wood. Makes a literal world of difference, every bowlers style will have a certain oil pattern that is hell for them
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CircleOfManias
08/30/17 2:03:18 PM
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Not only are the oil patterns different from lane to lane, they change constantly as they're bowled on. The exact same throw can be a strike on one frame and a gutterball on another because the oil pattern changed.
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myztikrice
08/30/17 2:05:29 PM
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How on earth do you judge something as 'the exact same throw'
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uwnim
08/30/17 2:09:06 PM
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Phantom36 posted...
Here's the real answer:

PBA has certain standardized oil patterns on the lanes they use, and they are much more difficult to bowl than the lanes at your local alley.

"House oil patterns," as they're called, used at your local alley are designed to allow a much larger margin of error and still allow for the ball to hook into the pocket because the middle of the lane is oiled more than the outside. TC, have you ever gone bowling and missed your shot by 2 or 3 boards, but the ball still hooked into the pocket and you still got a strike? Of course you have. We all have. It's designed like this, or it would be too frustrating for the average bowler, not to mention a novice.

On a lane oiled like the ones in PBA, that would never happen.

That has never happened to me. Every time I've bowled the ball went in a straight line from wherever I released the ball to either the gutter or the end of the lane.
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thanosibe
08/30/17 2:14:24 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
Why don't professional NBA players make every free throw?

ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Why don't professional golfers get a hole in one every time?

Why don't professional gamers always win?

DarthAragorn posted...
Why don't professional pitchers always pitch to their target area

FaytlessHearts posted...
Why can't football players throw a ball without breaking their fragile bones?
Why wasn't the first time I stuck my dick in a gal not perfectly done?
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Phantom36
08/30/17 2:15:26 PM
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thanosibe posted...
Anteaterking posted...
Why don't professional NBA players make every free throw?

ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Why don't professional golfers get a hole in one every time?

Why don't professional gamers always win?

DarthAragorn posted...
Why don't professional pitchers always pitch to their target area

FaytlessHearts posted...
Why can't football players throw a ball without breaking their fragile bones?
Why wasn't the first time I stuck my dick in a gal not perfectly done?


In hockey, why don't they just put in a big fat guy who can block the entire net as the goalie?
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C7D
08/30/17 2:16:20 PM
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The ball collects oil as it travels down the lane. The pattern is not even exactly the same from roll to roll. Occasionally, you will see PBA games where the oil has a dye in it. You can see how the lanes break down throughout the match.
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Phantom36
08/30/17 2:19:22 PM
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uwnim posted...
Phantom36 posted...
Here's the real answer:

PBA has certain standardized oil patterns on the lanes they use, and they are much more difficult to bowl than the lanes at your local alley.

"House oil patterns," as they're called, used at your local alley are designed to allow a much larger margin of error and still allow for the ball to hook into the pocket because the middle of the lane is oiled more than the outside. TC, have you ever gone bowling and missed your shot by 2 or 3 boards, but the ball still hooked into the pocket and you still got a strike? Of course you have. We all have. It's designed like this, or it would be too frustrating for the average bowler, not to mention a novice.

On a lane oiled like the ones in PBA, that would never happen.

That has never happened to me. Every time I've bowled the ball went in a straight line from wherever I released the ball to either the gutter or the end of the lane.


A few factors at play here:
Are you using a good resin ball, or are you using the free house balls they give you at the alley? The balls they give you won't hook whatsoever.

If you're using your own ball made from reactive resin, it depends.

On most house oil patterns, if you are a right-handed bowler and miss your throw to the left, the extra oil in the middle of the lane helps the ball hold position and not hook too much. But miss to the right, there is less oil and the ball hooks more, allowing it to hook back to the pocket more easily.

So either way it's designed to help the average bowler have a decent score, in hopes that they'll have more fun, come back more often, and spend more money.
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Phantom36
08/30/17 2:30:11 PM
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It's also worth noting, based on what I just described, that when they introduced reactive resin bowling balls in the 90's, it kind of "broke" the sport. Perfect 300 games at pro and amateur level skyrocketed.

Every year (I think they still do it), PBA has a tournament where they only use old-fashioned plastic bowling balls. And they named the tournament after Mark Roth. In some regard you could say that Roth bowling with a plastic ball in the 70s is more impressive than what anyone has accomplished with resin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPllVnruRAc

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ChromaticAngel
08/30/17 2:40:35 PM
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I just want to add here that pro bowlers actually can consistently make 300.

just because they're not literally perfect every single time doesn't mean they can't do it.
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bluezero
08/30/17 2:42:38 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
you dont have to run or physically exert yourself in any way other than moving your arm.

Nope. Tell that to my back after bowling.
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giantblimpN7
08/30/17 2:43:32 PM
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Because they're good at football, not bowling.
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ChromaticAngel
08/30/17 2:46:43 PM
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giantblimpN7 posted...
Because they're good at football, not bowling.


... They're clearly not even good at that or else they'd be in the superbowl.
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Distant_Rainbow
08/30/17 2:47:03 PM
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Phantom36 posted...
In hockey, why don't they just put in a big fat guy who can block the entire net as the goalie?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP8ZVWiZUMA

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Phantom36
08/30/17 2:48:03 PM
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By the way, this fits the topic perfectly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEXl7LiD22M

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Lost_All_Senses
08/30/17 2:48:16 PM
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FaytlessHearts posted...
Philoktetes posted...
because people are trying to stop you throwing the ball in football

no one is in your way in bowling

I mean, I guess. I think football requires zero skill though. Anyone can throw a ball and catch it. Anyone. Bowling is the same lol anyone can throw a ball.


Man this post was dumb.
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FLUFFYGERM
08/30/17 2:50:53 PM
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is bowling even considered a sport
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Ryan__Leaf
08/30/17 2:53:20 PM
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Phantom36 posted...
By the way, this fits the topic perfectly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEXl7LiD22M


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Antifar
08/30/17 2:58:16 PM
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"Why don't pro basketball players make every free throw?" seems like an apt comparison here
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Phantom36
08/30/17 3:32:22 PM
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Distant_Rainbow posted...
Phantom36 posted...
In hockey, why don't they just put in a big fat guy who can block the entire net as the goalie?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP8ZVWiZUMA


LOL @ the nutshot at the end
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Philoktetes
08/30/17 3:49:40 PM
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*lie down
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Philoktetes
08/30/17 3:49:54 PM
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because then people would shoot the puck over them
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Phantom36
08/30/17 3:56:35 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
Why don't hockey goalies just lay down across the goal line?


That's basically what Dominik Hasek used to do and actually made a very successful Hall of Fame career by flopping in front of the net like a fish out of water.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9ZrjatWFTI

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No Tolerance
08/30/17 4:30:04 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-osG0F2MZM

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