Current Events > Genuine question for political posters here.

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Sephiroth1288 08/29/17 8:44:25 PM #51:	Mernardi posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... Mernardi posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... None of my friends and family give a shit about politics so I need to vent somewhere. But to what end? No one cares about your political opinions, as I'm sure you don't care for theirs. What's the purpose of it all? Humans are stubborn and rarely change their minds on anything, politics worst of all. See, this is the mindset that leads to political ghettoization like we're seeing with Twitter and Google. Debate is worth it for it's own sake. Don't forget that. Is it really debating on CE though? I only see "lmao look at this shitposter" from everyone. There are people willing to have fact-based arguments. They're not all like that. Yet. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:885685198] in Genuine qu... [t:75721784]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mernardi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mernardi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>None of my friends and family give a shit about politics so I need to vent somewhere.</quote> But to what end? No one cares about your political opinions, as I'm sure you don't care for theirs. What's the purpose of it all? Humans are stubborn and rarely change their minds on anything, politics worst of all.</quote> See, this is the mindset that leads to political ghettoization like we're seeing with Twitter and Google. Debate is worth it for it's own sake. Don't forget that.</quote> Is it really debating on CE though? I only see "lmao look at this shitposter" from everyone.</quote> There are people willing to have fact-based arguments. They're not all like that. Yet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Capn Circus 08/29/17 8:47:18 PM #52:	Mernardi posted... Capn Circus posted... Mernardi posted... instead of other things that are more interesting? Like hobbies, video games, sports, literally anything else, etc? You should have taken your own advice and not wasted time posting and bumping a topic you made about me. But to answer your question, politics interests me. And many Current Events can heavily fall under the politic spectrum, particularly during these times of "Omg Trump won I can't believe it" (from both sides). What happened during this election and leading up to it was monumental, so the political-esque topics are going to be more frequent for the foreseeable future. I do participate in other topics and discussions on here as well, and enjoy many other activities off of GameFAQs. I made that thread to make fun of a shitposter. It was all in good fun. I've literally never seen you talk about anything you like. And tbh, political shit got really bad in 2016. I wish we could go back to simpler times. If I'm a ** poster, people must be really interested in my posting--which sort of defeats the meaning of a ** poster. And, sure, I guess it was all in good fun. I won't begrudge you for it. As far as other topics I make or participate in, I often post random polls about various topics---finance, gambling, travel, sleeping habits---whatever-- And I most recently participated quite heavily in Gavi's giveaway topic. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks <cite>Capn Circus posted [p:885685377] in Genuine qu... [t:75721784]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mernardi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mernardi posted...</cite> <quote>instead of other things that are more interesting? Like hobbies, video games, sports, literally anything else, etc?</quote> You should have taken your own advice and not wasted time posting and bumping a topic you made about me. But to answer your question, politics interests me. And many Current Events can heavily fall under the politic spectrum, particularly during these times of "Omg Trump won I can't believe it" (from both sides). What happened during this election and leading up to it was monumental, so the political-esque topics are going to be more frequent for the foreseeable future. I do participate in other topics and discussions on here as well, and enjoy many other activities off of GameFAQs.</quote> I made that thread to make fun of a shitposter. It was all in good fun. I've literally never seen you talk about anything you like. And tbh, political shit got really bad in 2016. I wish we could go back to simpler times.</quote> If I'm a ** poster, people must be really interested in my posting--which sort of defeats the meaning of a ** poster. And, sure, I guess it was all in good fun. I won't begrudge you for it. As far as other topics I make or participate in, I often post random polls about various topics---finance, gambling, travel, sleeping habits---whatever-- And I most recently participated quite heavily in Gavi's giveaway topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Soviet_Poland 08/29/17 8:48:39 PM #53:	Sephiroth1288 posted... See, this is the mindset that leads to political ghettoization like we're seeing with Twitter and Google. Debate is worth it for it's own sake. Don't forget that. When I sit down face to face with someone, conversation is more natural. Terms are more easily defined. The feedback is immediate. There is a social expectation of some politeness or at least constitution. Not always, but you get my point. 99% of conversation here always is someone misrepresenting someone's point. It's more semantics than actual debate as a hundred post topic has 3 posts of coherent thought, and 97 posts of two idiots taking things out of context. Also, the level of generalization that occurs in a message board format is too much to handle. A lot of these topics require a massive understanding of so many underlying assumptions. Inevitably, someone in the "audience" isn't familiar with these assumptions and then the conversation gets sidetracked. Nevertheless, it is frustrating to see both sides of the political spectrum accuse the other side of the same shit they do. It leads me to get frustrated with those "on my side" whilst rolling my eyes at "the other side" who brings up those stupid examples as if they pertained to the actual issue at hand. Can you blame me for being cynical here? --- "He has two neurons held together by a spirochete." <cite>Soviet_Poland posted [p:885685459] in Genuine qu... [t:75721784]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>See, this is the mindset that leads to political ghettoization like we're seeing with Twitter and Google. Debate is worth it for it's own sake. Don't forget that.</quote> When I sit down face to face with someone, conversation is more natural. Terms are more easily defined. The feedback is immediate. There is a social expectation of some politeness or at least constitution. Not always, but you get my point. 99% of conversation here always is someone misrepresenting someone's point. It's more semantics than actual debate as a hundred post topic has 3 posts of coherent thought, and 97 posts of two idiots taking things out of context. Also, the level of generalization that occurs in a message board format is too much to handle. A lot of these topics require a massive understanding of so many underlying assumptions. Inevitably, someone in the "audience" isn't familiar with these assumptions and then the conversation gets sidetracked. Nevertheless, it is frustrating to see both sides of the political spectrum accuse the other side of the same shit they do. It leads me to get frustrated with those "on my side" whilst rolling my eyes at "the other side" who brings up those stupid examples as if they pertained to the actual issue at hand. Can you blame me for being cynical here?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Capn Circus 08/29/17 8:51:15 PM #54:	Mernardi posted... Is it really debating on CE though? I only see "lmao look at this s*poster" from everyone. You just called me a ** poster... >_> The discussions can get pretty toxic and heated, but I do feel my specific positions or some specific beliefs I hold can get challenged and make me thinking further into it or re-evaluate why I hold certain beliefs. A lot of people have a lot to say, and if you participate in many political topics I would say it would be a challenge to not once think differently about an opinion you hold. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks <cite>Capn Circus posted [p:885685609] in Genuine qu... [t:75721784]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mernardi posted...</cite> <quote>Is it really debating on CE though? I only see "lmao look at this s*poster" from everyone.</quote> You just called me a ** poster... >_> The discussions can get pretty toxic and heated, but I do feel my specific positions or some specific beliefs I hold can get challenged and make me thinking further into it or re-evaluate why I hold certain beliefs. A lot of people have a lot to say, and if you participate in many political topics I would say it would be a challenge to not once think differently about an opinion you hold.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 08/29/17 8:52:19 PM #55:	Soviet_Poland posted... When I sit down face to face with someone, conversation is more natural. Terms are more easily defined. The feedback is immediate. There is a social expectation of some politeness or at least constitution. Not always, but you get my point. 99% of conversation here always is someone misrepresenting someone's point. It's more semantics than actual debate as a hundred post topic has 3 posts of coherent thought, and 97 posts of two idiots taking things out of context. Also, the level of generalization that occurs in a message board format is too much to handle. A lot of these topics require a massive understanding of so many underlying assumptions. Inevitably, someone in the "audience" isn't familiar with these assumptions and then the conversation gets sidetracked. You seem to be doing a bit of generalizing yourself. No, not all debates on here are like that. And just because flame wars do occur doesn't mean points are being ignored and evidence isn't used. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:885685675] in Genuine qu... [t:75721784]...</cite> <quote><cite>Soviet_Poland posted...</cite> <quote>When I sit down face to face with someone, conversation is more natural. Terms are more easily defined. The feedback is immediate. There is a social expectation of some politeness or at least constitution. Not always, but you get my point. 99% of conversation here always is someone misrepresenting someone's point. It's more semantics than actual debate as a hundred post topic has 3 posts of coherent thought, and 97 posts of two idiots taking things out of context. Also, the level of generalization that occurs in a message board format is too much to handle. A lot of these topics require a massive understanding of so many underlying assumptions. Inevitably, someone in the "audience" isn't familiar with these assumptions and then the conversation gets sidetracked. </quote> You seem to be doing a bit of generalizing yourself. No, not all debates on here are like that. And just because flame wars do occur doesn't mean points are being ignored and evidence isn't used.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 08/29/17 8:53:08 PM #56:	Sephiroth1288 posted... Mernardi posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... Mernardi posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... None of my friends and family give a shit about politics so I need to vent somewhere. But to what end? No one cares about your political opinions, as I'm sure you don't care for theirs. What's the purpose of it all? Humans are stubborn and rarely change their minds on anything, politics worst of all. See, this is the mindset that leads to political ghettoization like we're seeing with Twitter and Google. Debate is worth it for it's own sake. Don't forget that. Is it really debating on CE though? I only see "lmao look at this shitposter" from everyone. There are people willing to have fact-based arguments. They're not all like that. Yet. Lol shut the fuck up Mal. You're the worst when it comes to ignoring facts and posts that are good counterpoints to your bullshit arguments <cite>Axiom posted [p:885685728] in Genuine qu... [t:75721784]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mernardi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mernardi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>None of my friends and family give a shit about politics so I need to vent somewhere.</quote> But to what end? No one cares about your political opinions, as I'm sure you don't care for theirs. What's the purpose of it all? Humans are stubborn and rarely change their minds on anything, politics worst of all.</quote> See, this is the mindset that leads to political ghettoization like we're seeing with Twitter and Google. Debate is worth it for it's own sake. Don't forget that.</quote> Is it really debating on CE though? I only see "lmao look at this shitposter" from everyone.</quote> There are people willing to have fact-based arguments. They're not all like that. Yet.</quote> Lol shut the fuck up Mal. You're the worst when it comes to ignoring facts and posts that are good counterpoints to your bullshit arguments</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mernardi 08/29/17 8:53:12 PM #57:	Capn Circus posted... Mernardi posted... Is it really debating on CE though? I only see "lmao look at this s*poster" from everyone. You just called me a poster... >_> The discussions can get pretty toxic and heated, but I do feel my specific positions or some specific beliefs I hold can get challenged and make me thinking further into it or re-evaluate why I hold certain beliefs. A lot of people have a lot to say, and if you participate in many political topics I would say it would be challenge to not once think differently about an opinion you hold. Not if you become so jaded that it becomes red vs blue instead of evaluating everything individualy and say fuck it to political parties. --- Chaos is a ladder <cite>Mernardi posted [p:885685733] in Genuine qu... [t:75721784]...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mernardi posted...</cite> <quote>Is it really debating on CE though? I only see "lmao look at this sposter" from everyone.</quote> You just called me a *** poster... >_> The discussions can get pretty toxic and heated, but I do feel my specific positions or some specific beliefs I hold can get challenged and make me thinking further into it or re-evaluate why I hold certain beliefs. A lot of people have a lot to say, and if you participate in many political topics I would say it would be challenge to not once think differently about an opinion you hold.</quote> Not if you become so jaded that it becomes red vs blue instead of evaluating everything individualy and say fuck it to political parties.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mernardi 08/29/17 8:54:24 PM #59:	-Gavirulax- posted... The problem is, once you see this type of shit somewhere (politics talk included) you seem to see it everywhere....:( True. At least this thread got some decent discusions going. I'll call it a success. --- Chaos is a ladder <cite>Mernardi posted [p:885685812] in Genuine qu... [t:75721784]...</cite> <quote><cite>-Gavirulax- posted...</cite> <quote>The problem is, once you see this type of shit somewhere (politics talk included) you seem to see it everywhere....:(</quote> True. At least this thread got some decent discusions going. I'll call it a success.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Soviet_Poland 08/29/17 8:57:59 PM #60:	Sephiroth1288 posted... You seem to be doing a bit of generalizing yourself. Won't argue that. Sephiroth1288 posted... And just because flame wars do occur doesn't mean points are being ignored and evidence isn't used. I suppose my perception of the ratio of good to bad topics hasn't been favorable in a while, in my opinion. I also see evidence used incorrectly a lot, especially in subjects that are inherently more vague. --- "He has two neurons held together by a spirochete." <cite>Soviet_Poland posted [p:885686035] in Genuine qu... [t:75721784]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>You seem to be doing a bit of generalizing yourself.</quote> Won't argue that. <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>And just because flame wars do occur doesn't mean points are being ignored and evidence isn't used.</quote> I suppose my perception of the ratio of good to bad topics hasn't been favorable in a while, in my opinion. I also see evidence used incorrectly a lot, especially in subjects that are inherently more vague.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Capn Circus 08/29/17 9:02:54 PM #62:	Mernardi posted... Capn Circus posted... Mernardi posted... Is it really debating on CE though? I only see "lmao look at this s*poster" from everyone. You just called me a ** poster... >_> The discussions can get pretty toxic and heated, but I do feel my specific positions or some specific beliefs I hold can get challenged and make me thinking further into it or re-evaluate why I hold certain beliefs. A lot of people have a lot to say, and if you participate in many political topics I would say it would be challenge to not once think differently about an opinion you hold. Not if you become so jaded that it becomes red vs blue instead of evaluating everything individualy and say fuck it to political parties. A lot of things can seem that way because it was such polar opposites "TRUMP and CLINTON". Me personally, I don't affiliate with Republicans and do not approve of many things they participate in. My whole reasoning for voting for Trump, and maybe you or others have forgotten or just didn't see, is that I was so sick of Democrats and Republicans, and found Trump as the only viable, potential alternative---which did come true. He hijacked the republican party, demanding fairness the whole time, and won. I view Trump more of a centrist or independent. I definitely view him as someone trying to shake things up, and that's exactly what I wanted. Everyone complains every year, "Oh it's always Democrats or Republicans. They both suck." But then when Trump comes around, many people find convenient excuses fed to them by the same corporations, elite, and establishment that owns the media and all of a sudden Trump is one big bad guy and cannot be voted into office----and I just won't get into all of that. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks <cite>Capn Circus posted [p:885686353] in Genuine qu... [t:75721784]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mernardi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mernardi posted...</cite> <quote>Is it really debating on CE though? I only see "lmao look at this s*poster" from everyone.</quote> You just called me a ** poster... >_> The discussions can get pretty toxic and heated, but I do feel my specific positions or some specific beliefs I hold can get challenged and make me thinking further into it or re-evaluate why I hold certain beliefs. A lot of people have a lot to say, and if you participate in many political topics I would say it would be challenge to not once think differently about an opinion you hold.</quote> Not if you become so jaded that it becomes red vs blue instead of evaluating everything individualy and say fuck it to political parties.</quote> A lot of things can seem that way because it was such polar opposites "TRUMP and CLINTON". Me personally, I don't affiliate with Republicans and do not approve of many things they participate in. My whole reasoning for voting for Trump, and maybe you or others have forgotten or just didn't see, is that I was so sick of Democrats and Republicans, and found Trump as the only viable, potential alternative---which did come true. He hijacked the republican party, demanding fairness the whole time, and won. I view Trump more of a centrist or independent. I definitely view him as someone trying to shake things up, and that's exactly what I wanted. Everyone complains every year, "Oh it's always Democrats or Republicans. They both suck." But then when Trump comes around, many people find convenient excuses fed to them by the same corporations, elite, and establishment that owns the media and all of a sudden Trump is one big bad guy and cannot be voted into office----and I just won't get into all of that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
glitteringfairy 08/29/17 9:03:28 PM #63:	I think my political posts account for maybe like one out of every ten posts --- "How come you can believe in God but not Bigfoot?" V-E-G-Y http://i.imgur.com/AqR3aeX.jpg http://i.imgur.com/vvuUXpp.jpg <cite>glitteringfairy posted [p:885686384] in Genuine qu... [t:75721784]...</cite> <quote>I think my political posts account for maybe like one out of every ten posts</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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