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Darmik
08/30/17 1:09:14 AM
#51:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darmik posted...
Because most of the times white characters are white because it's the default race to be. So their race generally isn't notable or relevant to the character.

How is Daimo's race relevant to his character


Darmik posted...
I can't speak about this character specifically since I know nothing about Hellboy.


Maybe it is relevant. Or maybe it isn't but he's seen as one of the few relevant Asian characters in comics/Hellboy and people got disappointed when they cast a white guy.
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boxington
08/30/17 1:11:18 AM
#52:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darmik posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
but he resembles Daimio well enough to play him.


What? He looks like an old Asian dude.

A heavily-stylized asian dude.

But please tell me how the black actress is a good fit for the ginger character with freckles but Ed isn't for a guy who's half white.

tbf, I don't think you could tell if it wasn't for her hair

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RickyTheBAWSE
08/30/17 1:11:37 AM
#53:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darmik posted...
Because most of the times white characters are white because it's the default race to be. So their race generally isn't notable or relevant to the character.

How is Daimo's race relevant to his character


doesn't matter. there is an opportunity for an Asian to get cast, and that looks great for American progression. less people feeling alienated because more would feel included.

why's this a problem?
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Sephiroth1288
08/30/17 1:15:12 AM
#54:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darmik posted...
Because most of the times white characters are white because it's the default race to be. So their race generally isn't notable or relevant to the character.

How is Daimo's race relevant to his character


doesn't matter. there is an opportunity for an Asian to get cast, and that looks great for American progression. less people feeling alienated because more would feel included.

why's this a problem?

Because identity politics is a cancerous worldview and saying it's ok to replace one race but none else is regressive. That's all.
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weapon_d00d816
08/30/17 1:21:15 AM
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boxington posted...
here's his statement:

Si2NSTu

That was cringe-tastic to read.

Why do people actually speak like that?
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RickyTheBAWSE
08/30/17 1:22:24 AM
#56:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darmik posted...
Because most of the times white characters are white because it's the default race to be. So their race generally isn't notable or relevant to the character.

How is Daimo's race relevant to his character


doesn't matter. there is an opportunity for an Asian to get cast, and that looks great for American progression. less people feeling alienated because more would feel included.

why's this a problem?

Because identity politics is a cancerous worldview and saying it's ok to replace one race but none else is regressive. That's all.


is it only regressive when it's not in your favor? this country was literally founded on identity politics, and you seem to take issue with those who feel like they got the short end of the stick in representation.

why can't we be included? why draw the line at people of color?
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shnangyboos
08/30/17 1:23:57 AM
#57:


Regardless of everything else, it's nice to see someone put themselves out to do what they think is right.
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weapon_d00d816
08/30/17 1:24:18 AM
#58:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darmik posted...
Because most of the times white characters are white because it's the default race to be. So their race generally isn't notable or relevant to the character.

How is Daimo's race relevant to his character


doesn't matter. there is an opportunity for an Asian to get cast, and that looks great for American progression. less people feeling alienated because more would feel included.

why's this a problem?

Because identity politics is a cancerous worldview and saying it's ok to replace one race but none else is regressive. That's all.


is it only regressive when it's not in your favor? this country was literally founded on identity politics, and you seem to take issue with those who feel like they got the short end of the stick in representation.

why can't we be included? why draw the line at people of color?

Why does an Asian actor have to play only Asian characters? Why is an Asian character an "opportunity"?
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Axiom
08/30/17 1:25:01 AM
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Eh I don't care either way. I'm fine with him rejecting the role and I would've been fine with him taking it
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Dragonblade01
08/30/17 1:25:04 AM
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As much as I don't mind characters changing across adaptation, that was a damn fine statement on his part.
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RickyTheBAWSE
08/30/17 1:25:05 AM
#61:


shnangyboos posted...
Regardless of everything else, it's nice to see someone put themselves out to do what they think is right.


indeed. anybody can take a "stand" via internet. not everybody has the heart to actively stand for a cause.
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RickyTheBAWSE
08/30/17 1:27:00 AM
#62:


weapon_d00d816 posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darmik posted...
Because most of the times white characters are white because it's the default race to be. So their race generally isn't notable or relevant to the character.

How is Daimo's race relevant to his character


doesn't matter. there is an opportunity for an Asian to get cast, and that looks great for American progression. less people feeling alienated because more would feel included.

why's this a problem?

Because identity politics is a cancerous worldview and saying it's ok to replace one race but none else is regressive. That's all.


is it only regressive when it's not in your favor? this country was literally founded on identity politics, and you seem to take issue with those who feel like they got the short end of the stick in representation.

why can't we be included? why draw the line at people of color?

Why does an Asian actor have to play only Asian characters? Why is an Asian character an "opportunity"?


you're replying to the wrong person because I never said "only."

are you opposed to Asian actors finding employment? what sort of question is that?
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Darmik
08/30/17 1:38:47 AM
#63:


It does kinda seem like Hollywood tries to avoid casting Asian actors in general. Even if they're adapting Asian stories and characters.

Exceptions are generally made for cliché kung-fu sorta stuff.

Obviously there are exceptions but stuff like Ghost in the Shell speaks for itself.
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RickyTheBAWSE
08/30/17 1:45:57 AM
#64:


Darmik posted...
It does kinda seem like Hollywood tries to avoid casting Asian actors in general. Even if they're adapting Asian stories and characters.

Exceptions are generally made for cliché kung-fu sorta stuff.

Obviously there are exceptions but stuff like Ghost in the Shell speaks for itself.


that movie 21 is another example.

Asian males typically get stuck playing a stoic who is constantly practicing abstinence, lol. when we finally start casting superstars, they're well out of their primes.

Eddie Huang has been challenging stereotypes for a while now.
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RickyTheBAWSE
08/30/17 2:01:25 AM
#65:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darmik posted...
Because most of the times white characters are white because it's the default race to be. So their race generally isn't notable or relevant to the character.

How is Daimo's race relevant to his character


doesn't matter. there is an opportunity for an Asian to get cast, and that looks great for American progression. less people feeling alienated because more would feel included.

why's this a problem?

Because identity politics is a cancerous worldview and saying it's ok to replace one race but none else is regressive. That's all.


is it only regressive when it's not in your favor? this country was literally founded on identity politics, and you seem to take issue with those who feel like they got the short end of the stick in representation.

why can't we be included? why draw the line at people of color?

Why does an Asian actor have to play only Asian characters? Why is an Asian character an "opportunity"?


you're replying to the wrong person because I never said "only."

are you opposed to Asian actors finding employment? what sort of question is that?

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_Near_
08/30/17 2:21:34 AM
#66:


He's smart to not take the role, so he wouldn't face any backlash like Tilda Winton or ScarJo. He's nice enough to pass off the job with the hopes that it will go to an Asian actor (mixed or otherwise) who would usually not get the opportunity given Hollywood's tendency to pull this kind of stuff.

It was a classy move, regardless if he did it after the initial backlash.
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kuwab0
08/30/17 2:23:12 AM
#67:


_Near_ posted...
(mixed or otherwise

Will they get a mixed actor like the character though
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_Near_
08/30/17 2:29:02 AM
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If they're smart, they'll do a Japanese-American. It would be pretty dumb to cast another white dude.
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wolverinev2
08/30/17 2:33:41 AM
#69:


People need to shut the fuck up about this shit. He was going to play a comic character who isn't real. So why are people getting butthurt over a fictional character.

Now if the character was an actual person, that really existed. THEN I could sort of understand the out rage. (I'd still tell to eat a dick.). But, a fictional character? Just shut the fuck up.
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Sephiroth1288
08/30/17 10:38:49 AM
#70:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
is it only regressive when it's not in your favor? this country was literally founded on identity politics, and you seem to take issue with those who feel like they got the short end of the stick in representation.

why can't we be included? why draw the line at people of color?

I just want you to pick one: is it or is it not ok to swap characters' races?
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MaverickXeo
08/30/17 11:02:32 AM
#71:


CADE FOSTER posted...
XplodnPnguins92 posted...
i hear there's a white character in the movie that will be played by a black woman. no one will outrage over that though because reasons.

fuck off hollywood has been whitewashing roles since they started


Could it be because hollywood is filled with talented white people and has a lack of other races living/working there?

Gasp! You mean they should be outsourcing roles to people who may not be as good just because of their race?

How does Bollywood handle this? Or Chinese film companies? Etc?
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LightHawKnight
08/30/17 11:13:20 AM
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Why is it so hard to find an Asian actor?
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s0nicfan
08/30/17 11:14:43 AM
#73:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
this country was literally founded on identity politics


No it wasn't. That's just some revisionist history that the modern movement has created to make themselves seem more legitimate. Ignoring the fact that the phrase didn't even exist until the 1970s, the founding fathers actively warned AGAINST the kind of tribalism that identity politics creates which is why John Adams and George Washington were both against the concept of political parties.
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darkjedilink
08/30/17 11:40:48 AM
#75:


salandrews posted...
If it aint Ron Pearlman doing Hellboy I dont care.

If it aint Ron Pearlman doing Deathstroke I dont care.

This.
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RickyTheBAWSE
08/30/17 12:48:03 PM
#76:


s0nicfan posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
this country was literally founded on identity politics


No it wasn't. That's just some revisionist history that the modern movement has created to make themselves seem more legitimate. Ignoring the fact that the phrase didn't even exist until the 1970s, the founding fathers actively warned AGAINST the kind of tribalism that identity politics creates which is why John Adams and George Washington were both against the concept of political parties.


I have a hard time taking people serious when they respond with "nuh uh" while completely pretending history never happened. it's like an Admiral post.


www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/rampage/wp/2015/08/28/founding-fathers-trashing-immigrants/

what exactly are you hoping to gain by pretending like "White" isn't a construct that was made to create a race based social hierarchy? and why is it so arbitrary that other ethnicities can get inducted depending on how bad numbers are needed?
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darkjedilink
08/30/17 12:50:22 PM
#77:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
s0nicfan posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
this country was literally founded on identity politics


No it wasn't. That's just some revisionist history that the modern movement has created to make themselves seem more legitimate. Ignoring the fact that the phrase didn't even exist until the 1970s, the founding fathers actively warned AGAINST the kind of tribalism that identity politics creates which is why John Adams and George Washington were both against the concept of political parties.


I have a hard time taking people serious when they respond with "nuh uh" while completely pretending history never happened. it's like an Admiral post.


www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/rampage/wp/2015/08/28/founding-fathers-trashing-immigrants/

what exactly are you hoping to gain by pretending like "White" isn't a construct that was made to create a race based social hierarchy? and why is it so arbitrary that other ethnicities can get inducted depending on how bad numbers are needed?

Literally WaPo opinion piece...
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eston
08/30/17 12:50:25 PM
#78:


I didn't read the whole topic, but has anyone posted the word outrage with quotes around it yet? Better play it safe.

"outrage"
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RickyTheBAWSE
08/30/17 1:00:03 PM
#79:


darkjedilink posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
s0nicfan posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
this country was literally founded on identity politics


No it wasn't. That's just some revisionist history that the modern movement has created to make themselves seem more legitimate. Ignoring the fact that the phrase didn't even exist until the 1970s, the founding fathers actively warned AGAINST the kind of tribalism that identity politics creates which is why John Adams and George Washington were both against the concept of political parties.


I have a hard time taking people serious when they respond with "nuh uh" while completely pretending history never happened. it's like an Admiral post.


www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/rampage/wp/2015/08/28/founding-fathers-trashing-immigrants/

what exactly are you hoping to gain by pretending like "White" isn't a construct that was made to create a race based social hierarchy? and why is it so arbitrary that other ethnicities can get inducted depending on how bad numbers are needed?

Literally WaPo opinion piece...


I know you've got nothing to contribute, but I'm quoting you so you can see that I acknowledge your existence.
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AsianRobertLee
09/01/17 4:23:39 AM
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Kudos to that actor.
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iPhone_7
09/01/17 4:26:11 AM
#81:


kuwab0 posted...
I will laugh if they just cast another White actor

They should hire a black actor that way SJWs won't know how to feel about this.
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AsianRobertLee
09/01/17 4:27:07 AM
#82:


iPhone_7 posted...
kuwab0 posted...
I will laugh if they just cast another White actor

They should hire a black actor that way SJWs won't know how to feel about this.


Actually, under affirmative action rules, Black trumps Asian in the liberal hierarchy, so this wouldn't surprise me if this ends up happening.
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