Current Events > How come some people want to blame others today for African American slavery?

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I mean, none of us were even alive when it was still around.
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Something to do with "The sins of the father..." or something.
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The fallout led to institutionalized racism that still is in effect today or else the stigma lives on, and white people benefit from that institutionalized racism where people of color don't.
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Buildings
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gunplagirl posted...

The fallout led to institutionalized racism that still is in effect today or else the stigma lives on, and white people benefit from that institutionalized racism where people of color don't.

i'm white and poor, work minimum wage am in debt

show me how i benefitted from institutionalized racism.
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gunplagirl posted...

The fallout led to institutionalized racism that still is in effect today or else the stigma lives on, and white people benefit from that institutionalized racism where people of color don't.

Literally lies.
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Mostly people looking for handouts
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gunplagirl posted...

The fallout led to institutionalized racism that still is in effect today or else the stigma lives on, and white people benefit from that institutionalized racism where people of color don't.

In the words of Ben Shapiro:

I hate racism. I think it’s evil. But if you’re just going to say “institutional racism” every time something bad happens, there’s no way to fight it. I need a policy that you’re proposing, or I need a person who’s actually racist so we can fight it together, or we can determine whether the policy is good. What I find really problematic is the virtue signaling that I see by so many people on the other side, which is: I don’t have to give you the racist, I don’t have to tell you who he is or what measures I’m proposing; I just say “institutional racism,” everybody cheers for me, because that’s an approved point of view, and now we move on with our lives. You haven’t helped anybody; you’ve just made yourself feel better.

And then again later in the same Q&A:

Unless you’re connecting that to a policy, it’s a copout. Because now we’re ghost hunting again. If you just said to me, we have a problem in American society: “income inequality” is a problem in American society, if you just gave me any problem, and I said, “well, that’s the Bilderberg’s fault. That’s the fault of the Bilderbergs. It’s a conspiracy; it’s the fault of the Bilderbergs. There are all these conspiracy theories about the Bilderberg group. Let’s say it’s the Bilderberg’s fault, or it’s the protocols of the elders of Zion, whatever it is, there’s some sort of conspiracy out there.” You would say to me, “That’s not useful, what are you even talking about?”

When you say “institutional racism,” it’s too broad. You have to at least name me the institution. Which one is the racist one? Which institution is racist? Tell me. So we can fight it -- seriously, so we can fight it together. Just shouting slogans like “institutional racism” is not, it’s not effective. Shouting “white privilege” is not effective.

I want to be on your side. I do. I want to fight racists. Again, I think racist behavior is evil. I want to fight it with you. But I can’t fight it if you’re not showing me what it is. We have to decide together if the policies you’re proposing will alleviate racism or exacerbate racism. And it turns out I think that a lot of the policies proposed by the left –I think “institutional racism” is a way, is usually a lever for proposing a policy that is actually unpalatable to freedom, and then castigating people on the other side of that policy as being in league with the “institutional racism.” The policies are either good or bad, without regard to words like “institutional racism,” is what I’m saying. Honestly, I would love to sit down and talk with you for an hour about it, because it’s a worthwhile conversation, and I think we could actually get somewhere with it, but I think that slogans generally tend not to be particularly effective in getting us to solutions.

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s0nicfan posted...

gunplagirl posted...

The fallout led to institutionalized racism that still is in effect today or else the stigma lives on, and white people benefit from that institutionalized racism where people of color don't.

In the words of Ben Shapiro:

I hate racism. I think it’s evil. But if you’re just going to say “institutional racism” every time something bad happens, there’s no way to fight it. I need a policy that you’re proposing, or I need a person who’s actually racist so we can fight it together, or we can determine whether the policy is good. What I find really problematic is the virtue signaling that I see by so many people on the other side, which is: I don’t have to give you the racist, I don’t have to tell you who he is or what measures I’m proposing; I just say “institutional racism,” everybody cheers for me, because that’s an approved point of view, and now we move on with our lives. You haven’t helped anybody; you’ve just made yourself feel better.

And then again later in the same Q&A:

Unless you’re connecting that to a policy, it’s a copout. Because now we’re ghost hunting again. If you just said to me, we have a problem in American society: “income inequality” is a problem in American society, if you just gave me any problem, and I said, “well, that’s the Bilderberg’s fault. That’s the fault of the Bilderbergs. It’s a conspiracy; it’s the fault of the Bilderbergs. There are all these conspiracy theories about the Bilderberg group. Let’s say it’s the Bilderberg’s fault, or it’s the protocols of the elders of Zion, whatever it is, there’s some sort of conspiracy out there.” You would say to me, “That’s not useful, what are you even talking about?”

When you say “institutional racism,” it’s too broad. You have to at least name me the institution. Which one is the racist one? Which institution is racist? Tell me. So we can fight it -- seriously, so we can fight it together. Just shouting slogans like “institutional racism” is not, it’s not effective. Shouting “white privilege” is not effective.

I want to be on your side. I do. I want to fight racists. Again, I think racist behavior is evil. I want to fight it with you. But I can’t fight it if you’re not showing me what it is. We have to decide together if the policies you’re proposing will alleviate racism or exacerbate racism. And it turns out I think that a lot of the policies proposed by the left –I think “institutional racism” is a way, is usually a lever for proposing a policy that is actually unpalatable to freedom, and then castigating people on the other side of that policy as being in league with the “institutional racism.” The policies are either good or bad, without regard to words like “institutional racism,” is what I’m saying. Honestly, I would love to sit down and talk with you for an hour about it, because it’s a worthwhile conversation, and I think we could actually get somewhere with it, but I think that slogans generally tend not to be particularly effective in getting us to solutions.

/GolfClap
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Coolppl Owns posted...

gunplagirl posted...

The fallout led to institutionalized racism that still is in effect today or else the stigma lives on, and white people benefit from that institutionalized racism where people of color don't.

i'm white and poor, work minimum wage am in debt

show me how i benefitted from institutionalized racism.

Hiring policies still favor you on the premise of your name. Your natural hair isn't legally able to be used as a reason to not hire, or for even fire, you. Barring you living in a poor area with a majority being minorities, your education was almost certainly better than even middle class schools filled with a majority middle class people of color. Your interactions with the police are going to go much better, even when you're a suspect. You won't be questioned just on the basis of being white when a suspect in the area was white. If murdered, the haste and effort behind finding your murderer is going to be much higher in any area. You'll never have anybody refer to you as an animal or compare you to one on the premise of your skin. You'll not have people suspicious of you or even follow you around stores. Housing districts around the nation were drawn up to strongly disadvantage people of color, and most new areas built since then were made to favor upper middle class people and that strongly favors white people. Financially speaking, you're going to be paid more than your peers of different races for the same position and it's you'll rise up through promotions much faster even with less education. Government agencies and utilities are much better in your area, and are less likely to even exist in a comparable area consisting of mostly people of color. Nobody is going to refer to your area as a bad neighborhood if it consists of a majority white people, unless there's a strong drug use problem. Oh, and if you did do anything illegal, your punishment, compared to a person of color for the same crime and with the same sort of background, by the same judge would be nominally lighter. In fact barring a violent crime your odds of seeing more than a year of jail time are extremely low. Get this, even if you might not think you've had these apply, they do or will where applicable.
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Something something white privilege, something something institutionalized racism. It's like they don't know that Africans also owned slaves.
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SageHarpuia posted...

Something something white privilege, something something institutionalized racism. It's like they don't know that Africans also owned slaves.

An extremely low number, mostly in Africa, and their descendants in no way benefited from the successes that their ancestors might have experienced.
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No one blames people alive today for what happened during slavery, what gets my hackles up is when people downplay the significance of 250 years of slavery followed by 100 years of legalized segregation and forced economic detours can do to a population. You don't have 350 years of that and act deaf/blind/dumb to the residual institutional effects of that on our society.
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Beats getting a job I guess
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No one that matters does. The real questions are...why can't people accept that Black People had it harder due to Slavery+Jim Crow and still suffer from the after effects? And why do they want Black People to be the only wronged people in America NOT to get reparations? Seems weird to me that people feel so strongly about these.
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gunplagirl posted...

The fallout led to institutionalized racism that still is in effect today or else the stigma lives on, and white people benefit from that institutionalized racism where people of color don't.

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