Current Events > In Death Note, did they call out the main characters ethics? *spoilers*

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CruelBuffalo
08/26/17 1:36:12 PM
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I don't remember much about that
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CruelBuffalo
08/26/17 1:50:47 PM
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Bump
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DezCaughtIt
08/26/17 2:01:45 PM
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In the shitty westernized movie or manga/anime?
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JE19426
08/26/17 2:02:28 PM
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The manga and anime don't.
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Bloodychess
08/26/17 2:03:03 PM
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Watched the anime a month ago

They do pretty frequently
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PMarth2002
08/26/17 2:11:47 PM
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JE19426 posted...
The manga and anime don't.


... Bulltshit they don't. Literally the first thing that L does is call out Light on public television.
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_Near_
08/26/17 2:13:27 PM
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that's like the whole point of the show
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dave_is_slick
08/26/17 2:15:09 PM
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JE19426 posted...
The manga and anime don't.

Uhhhh...
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JE19426
08/26/17 2:15:27 PM
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PMarth2002 posted...


... Bulltshit they don't. Literally the first thing that L does is call out Light on public television.


Plenty of characters, in plenty of series call other characters out on their actions. For example pretty much every villain claims the hero is wrong. That's not the same as the series calling out the characters actions.
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Rikiaz
08/26/17 2:15:47 PM
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DezCaughtIt posted...
In the shitty westernized movie or manga/anime?

Talking about the Netflix movie? My wife and I watched it last night (not expecting it to be good) and god damn that movie is garbage.
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Bloodychess
08/26/17 2:17:51 PM
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JE19426 posted...
PMarth2002 posted...


... Bulltshit they don't. Literally the first thing that L does is call out Light on public television.


Plenty of characters, in plenty of series call other characters out on their actions. For example pretty much every villain claims the hero is wrong. That's not the same as the series calling out the characters actions.


The entire Japanese task force has an ethical debate over Kira every 5 epsiodes
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JE19426
08/26/17 2:18:14 PM
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Bloodychess posted...

The entire Japanese task force has an ethical debate over this every 5 epsiodes


What's your point?
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dave_is_slick
08/26/17 2:18:36 PM
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JE19426 posted...
Bloodychess posted...

The entire Japanese task force has an ethical debate over this every 5 epsiodes


So?

Are you trolling?
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JE19426
08/26/17 2:19:02 PM
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dave_is_slick posted...

Are you trolling?


Nope.
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dave_is_slick
08/26/17 2:19:56 PM
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JE19426 posted...
dave_is_slick posted...

Are you trolling?


Nope.

So why are you telling lies?
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lilORANG
08/26/17 2:19:57 PM
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i guess I don't understand the question or why there is so much disagreement because it very clearly paints Light as being in the wrong.
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Bloodychess
08/26/17 2:20:41 PM
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dave_is_slick posted...
JE19426 posted...
Bloodychess posted...

The entire Japanese task force has an ethical debate over this every 5 epsiodes


So?

Are you trolling?


He is, just move on and let him pretend that the square is actually a circle
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JE19426
08/26/17 2:21:06 PM
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dave_is_slick posted...

So why are you telling lies?


I'm not.
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Tmaster148
08/26/17 2:21:45 PM
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lilORANG posted...
i guess I don't understand the question or why there is so much disagreement because it very clearly paints Light as being in the wrong.


There are people who believe Light is correct and his actions are necessary.
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Terra-enforcer
08/26/17 2:22:34 PM
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Yes they did during L's speech iirc
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dave_is_slick
08/26/17 2:23:22 PM
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Bloodychess posted...
He is, just move on and let him pretend that the square is actually a circle

All these squares make a circle.
All these squares make a circle.
All these squares make a circle.

And then my personal favorite:
How did all these squares make a circle?!
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PMarth2002
08/26/17 2:24:40 PM
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lilORANG posted...
i guess I don't understand the question or why there is so much disagreement because it very clearly paints Light as being in the wrong.


There's only one person disagreeing and I'm pretty sure the guy who said he's trolling is right.
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JE19426
08/26/17 2:27:03 PM
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lilORANG posted...
i guess I don't understand the question or why there is so much disagreement because it very clearly paints Light as being in the wrong.


Painting someone as wrong, isn't the same as calling them out. It also doesn't do a very good job of painting him wrong, giving the number of people who think he's right.
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lilORANG
08/26/17 2:28:47 PM
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JE19426 posted...
lilORANG posted...
i guess I don't understand the question or why there is so much disagreement because it very clearly paints Light as being in the wrong.


Painting someone as wrong, isn't the same as calling them out. It also doesn't do a very good job of painting him wrong, giving the number of people who think he's right.

If the only people on your side are deranged cultists, you're probably wrong.
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dave_is_slick
08/26/17 2:29:14 PM
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JE19426 posted...
lilORANG posted...
i guess I don't understand the question or why there is so much disagreement because it very clearly paints Light as being in the wrong.


Painting someone as wrong, isn't the same as calling them out. It also doesn't do a very good job of painting him wrong, giving the number of people who think he's right.

Every single one of those people where shown to be deeply disturbed.
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JE19426
08/26/17 2:29:48 PM
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dave_is_slick posted...

Every single one of those people where shown to be deeply disturbed


When?
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dave_is_slick
08/26/17 2:30:26 PM
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JE19426 posted...
dave_is_slick posted...

Every single one of those people where shown to be deeply disturbed


When?

You're trolling.
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JE19426
08/26/17 2:33:07 PM
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dave_is_slick posted...
You're trolling


Since when is asking when something happened trolling?
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dave_is_slick
08/26/17 2:35:05 PM
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JE19426 posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
You're trolling


Since when is asking when something happened trolling?

When something has been shown for the entire series and you ask when it happened.
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JE19426
08/26/17 2:37:01 PM
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dave_is_slick posted...
When something has been shown for the entire series and you ask when it happened.


People opinions on Kira before the series began. How on earth could have shown anything about them for the entire series.
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TimDiamond
08/26/17 2:39:01 PM
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Are we talking about the movie or the manga/anime? The basis for the confrontation between L and Light in the original story is on whether or not it's ethical to let Kira decide criminals' fate.
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lilORANG
08/26/17 2:40:01 PM
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TimDiamond posted...
Are we talking about the movie or the manga/anime? The basis for the confrontation between L and Light in the original story is on whether or not it's ethical to let Kira decide criminals' fate.

That's what it is initially but once Kira starts killing cops and anyone else who is an inconvenience to him it's a pretty clear good vs evil story.
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JE19426
08/26/17 2:41:06 PM
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lilORANG posted...

That's what it is initially but once Kira starts killing cops and anyone else who is an inconvenience to him it's a pretty clear good vs evil story.


Plenty of people still think he's a hero even after that point.
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clearaflagrantj
08/26/17 2:55:03 PM
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lilORANG posted...
TimDiamond posted...
Are we talking about the movie or the manga/anime? The basis for the confrontation between L and Light in the original story is on whether or not it's ethical to let Kira decide criminals' fate.

That's what it is initially but once Kira starts killing cops and anyone else who is an inconvenience to him it's a pretty clear good vs evil story.

It's been a while since I've watched the anime but IIRC Kira's cult really takes off in the second season
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