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Antifar
08/23/17 11:07:38 AM
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Just gonna paste them as bullet points
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2017/08/trump-holds-steady-after-charlottesville-supporters-think-whites-christians-face-discrimination.html
- 40% of voters approve of the job Trump is doing to 53% who disapprove, little change from the 41/55 spread we found for him in July.

- Asked what racial group they think faces the most discrimination in America, 45% of Trump voters say it's white people followed by 17% for Native Americans with 16% picking African Americans, and 5% picking Latinos. Asked what religious group they think faces the most discrimination in America, 54% of Trump voters says it's Christians followed by 22% for Muslims and 12% for Jews.

- Overall 89% of Americans have a negative opinion of neo-Nazis to 3% with a positive one, and 87% have an unfavorable opinion of white supremacists to 4% with a positive one. Just 11% agree with the sentiment that it's possible for white supremacists and neo-Nazis to be 'very fine people,' to 69% who say that's not possible.

- In a finding that says a lot about how we got to where we are today, Trump voters say they would rather have Jefferson Davis as President than Barack Obama 45/20.

- Things are continuing to look good for Democrats in 2018, as they lead the generic Congressional ballot 49-35. The 14 point lead for Democrats may be too good to be true though- it's a function of a highly divided Republican base at this point. While Clinton voters say they'll vote Democratic for Congress next year 90-4, Trump voters say they will vote Republican by only a 74-13 margin.

- Only 25% of voters support the health care bill that was considered by Congress last month, to 57% who disapprove of it. Even among GOP voters there's less than majority support, with 48% in favor of it to 34% who are opposed. At this point only 33% of voters think the best path forward on health care is repealing Obamacare, to 57% who think it's keeping the current law and making fixes to it as necessary. Voters say by a 21 point margin that they're less likely to vote for a GOP member of Congress who supported the repeal bill

- Only 15% believe he has been successful in 'draining the swamp,' to 64% who say he hasn't. Even among Trump's own voters just 26% think he has delivered on this promise to 53% who say he hasn't. When it comes to whether Trump has come through on 'Making America Great Again,' just 33% of voters say he has to 59% who say he hasn't.

- Generally speaking just 57% of Republicans want Trump to be the party's nominee again in 2020 to 29% who say they would prefer someone else. That 28 point margin for Trump against 'someone else' is the same as his 28 point lead over Mike Pence at 52/24. Both Ted Cruz (a 40 point deficit to Trump at 62/22) and John Kasich (a 47 point deficit to Trump at 68/21) are evidently weaker potential opponents than 'someone else.'

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KarmaMuffin
08/23/17 11:09:51 AM
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Antifar posted...
Asked what racial group they think faces the most discrimination in America, 45% of Trump voters say it's white people

lol

Antifar posted...
Asked what religious group they think faces the most discrimination in America, 54% of Trump voters says it's Christians

lol

Antifar posted...
Trump voters say they would rather have Jefferson Davis as President than Barack Obama 45/20.

oh fuck





It'd be interesting to wake up as a Trump supporter one day, just to see their orange tinted reality
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3khc
08/23/17 11:17:03 AM
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@Pow_Pow_Punishment
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Antifar
08/23/17 12:39:31 PM
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KarmaMuffin posted...
oh fuck

See, they do like Democrats!
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pinky0926
08/23/17 12:43:01 PM
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Minorities: Hey white people, can you please consider these scenarios that are difficult for minorities, things that you probably generally don't have to deal with?
White people: Stop oppressing me!

Once again
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rulerBob8
08/23/17 12:52:09 PM
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Antifar posted...
Trump voters say they would rather have Jefferson Davis as President than Barack Obama

LMAO
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Horus_Leftfield
08/23/17 12:59:58 PM
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Holy fuck at the Jefferson Davis bit
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Gojak_v3
08/23/17 1:07:47 PM
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Antifar posted...
- Generally speaking just 57% of Republicans want Trump to be the party's nominee again in 2020 to 29% who say they would prefer someone else.


I agree here. I would really like to see a nomination challenge. Trump was never my pick in the primary last year.

Antifar posted...
- Only 25% of voters support the health care bill that was considered by Congress last month, to 57% who disapprove of it. Even among GOP voters there's less than majority support, with 48% in favor of it to 34% who are opposed. At this point only 33% of voters think the best path forward on health care is repealing Obamacare, to 57% who think it's keeping the current law and making fixes to it as necessary. Voters say by a 21 point margin that they're less likely to vote for a GOP member of Congress who supported the repeal bill


This is the whole you can't put toothpaste back in the tube problem. Well the same applies to trying to roll back shit like this. Instead this should be a cautionary tale to just not elect democrats. We get stuck with an awful bill like obamacare and can't get rid of it. The verdict is pretty much out on obamacare, it's a failure and indications point to it's continued failure. Democrats will just to the same thing with whatever the next issue is, so it's not even completely about healthcare.
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Horus_Leftfield
08/23/17 1:09:13 PM
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Seems to me like the democrats are the only ones who actually give a shit about people, so we should probably elect more of them.
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UnholyMudcrab
08/23/17 1:10:01 PM
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Gojak_v3 posted...
This is the whole you can't put toothpaste back in the tube problem. Well the same applies to trying to roll back shit like this. Instead this should be a cautionary tale to just not elect democrats. We get stuck with an awful bill like obamacare and can't get rid of it. The verdict is pretty much out on obamacare, it's a failure and indications point to it's continued failure.

Then why does a majority of voters approve of it?
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Gojak_v3
08/23/17 1:21:45 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Gojak_v3 posted...
This is the whole you can't put toothpaste back in the tube problem. Well the same applies to trying to roll back shit like this. Instead this should be a cautionary tale to just not elect democrats. We get stuck with an awful bill like obamacare and can't get rid of it. The verdict is pretty much out on obamacare, it's a failure and indications point to it's continued failure.

Then why does a majority of voters approve of it?


Approval really doesn't mean anything here to what actually happens. For example social security is popular and as it is right now it will be insolvent in our lifetime.
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