Current Events > Missouri is about to execute an innocent man.

Topic List	Page List: 1
Paper_Okami 08/22/17 1:50:22 PM #1:	http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/marcellus-williams-missouri-execution-death-row-inmate-new-evidence-innocence-murder-neil-gorsuch-a7906321.html A death row inmate in the US state of Missouri is about to be executed – despite new DNA evidence suggesting he is innocent. Marcellus Williams, now 48, was found guilty of the August 1998 murder of Lisha Gayle, 42, at home in St Louis. He was convicted and sentenced to death three years later. He is scheduled to be killed by lethal injection at 6pm on Tuesday (12am GMT). However, new evidence suggests Williams may be innocent, as DNA found on the knife used to kill Ms Gayle does not match his. --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:885244194] in Missouri i... [t:75697127]...</cite> <quote>http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/marcellus-williams-missouri-execution-death-row-inmate-new-evidence-innocence-murder-neil-gorsuch-a7906321.html A death row inmate in the US state of Missouri is about to be executed – despite new DNA evidence suggesting he is innocent. Marcellus Williams, now 48, was found guilty of the August 1998 murder of Lisha Gayle, 42, at home in St Louis. He was convicted and sentenced to death three years later. He is scheduled to be killed by lethal injection at 6pm on Tuesday (12am GMT). However, new evidence suggests Williams may be innocent, as DNA found on the knife used to kill Ms Gayle does not match his.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OpheliaAdenade 08/22/17 1:53:32 PM #2:	Must suck for him, but Missouri just refuses to pass up the chance to kill someone. :u They don't want all those lethal injection drugs to go to waste. --- http://imgur.com/Q6Qj55q <cite>OpheliaAdenade posted [p:885244379] in Missouri i... [t:75697127]...</cite> <quote>Must suck for him, but Missouri just refuses to pass up the chance to kill someone. :u They don't want all those lethal injection drugs to go to waste.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Twin3Turbo 08/22/17 1:54:50 PM #3:	"There is no physical evidence, no eyewitnesses that directly connect Williams to the murder, the DNA on the weapon wasn't his, the bloody footprint at the murder scene wasn't from Williams' shoe and was a different size, and the hair fibres found weren't his. WTF man --- https://imgflip.com/gif/di4a4 <cite>Twin3Turbo posted [p:885244453] in Missouri i... [t:75697127]...</cite> <quote><quote>"There is no physical evidence, no eyewitnesses that directly connect Williams to the murder, the DNA on the weapon wasn't his, the bloody footprint at the murder scene wasn't from Williams' shoe and was a different size, and the hair fibres found weren't his. </quote> WTF man</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ammonitida 08/22/17 1:56:13 PM #4:	He's not innocent. There was other tangible evidence linking him to the murder. For example, before he was a suspect he confessed to a jailhouse snitch which directly led to detectives finding stolen goods from the victim in his car. His girlfriend also testified against him. <cite>Ammonitida posted [p:885244543] in Missouri i... [t:75697127]...</cite> <quote>He's not innocent. There was other tangible evidence linking him to the murder. For example, before he was a suspect he confessed to a jailhouse snitch which directly led to detectives finding stolen goods from the victim in his car. His girlfriend also testified against him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 08/22/17 1:57:18 PM #5:	Ammonitida posted... He's not innocent. There was other tangible evidence linking him to the murder. For example, before he was a suspect he confessed to a jailhouse snitch which directly led to detectives finding stolen goods from the victim in his car. His girlfriend also testified against him. Just because he robbed the house doesn't mean he killed the woman. Either way there is enough evidence for at the very least the execution to be stayed. --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:885244602] in Missouri i... [t:75697127]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote>He's not innocent. There was other tangible evidence linking him to the murder. For example, before he was a suspect he confessed to a jailhouse snitch which directly led to detectives finding stolen goods from the victim in his car. His girlfriend also testified against him.</quote> Just because he robbed the house doesn't mean he killed the woman. Either way there is enough evidence for at the very least the execution to be stayed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ammonitida 08/22/17 1:59:30 PM #6:	Paper_Okami posted... Ammonitida posted... He's not innocent. There was other tangible evidence linking him to the murder. For example, before he was a suspect he confessed to a jailhouse snitch which directly led to detectives finding stolen goods from the victim in his car. His girlfriend also testified against him. Just because he robbed the house doesn't mean he killed the woman. Either way there is enough evidence for at the very least the execution to be stayed. His confession to murder directly led to that discovery in his car. Coincidence? No. He also had a history of violent burglaries. <cite>Ammonitida posted [p:885244751] in Missouri i... [t:75697127]...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote>He's not innocent. There was other tangible evidence linking him to the murder. For example, before he was a suspect he confessed to a jailhouse snitch which directly led to detectives finding stolen goods from the victim in his car. His girlfriend also testified against him.</quote> Just because he robbed the house doesn't mean he killed the woman. Either way there is enough evidence for at the very least the execution to be stayed.</quote> His confession to murder directly led to that discovery in his car. Coincidence? No. He also had a history of violent burglaries.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 08/22/17 2:02:29 PM #7:	Twin3Turbo posted... "There is no physical evidence, no eyewitnesses that directly connect Williams to the murder, the DNA on the weapon wasn't his, the bloody footprint at the murder scene wasn't from Williams' shoe and was a different size, and the hair fibres found weren't his. WTF man Ammonitida posted... Paper_Okami posted... Ammonitida posted... He's not innocent. There was other tangible evidence linking him to the murder. For example, before he was a suspect he confessed to a jailhouse snitch which directly led to detectives finding stolen goods from the victim in his car. His girlfriend also testified against him. Just because he robbed the house doesn't mean he killed the woman. Either way there is enough evidence for at the very least the execution to be stayed. His confession to murder directly led to that discovery in his car. Coincidence? No. He also had a history of violent burglaries. Explain this shit then --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:885244924] in Missouri i... [t:75697127]...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote><quote>"There is no physical evidence, no eyewitnesses that directly connect Williams to the murder, the DNA on the weapon wasn't his, the bloody footprint at the murder scene wasn't from Williams' shoe and was a different size, and the hair fibres found weren't his. </quote> WTF man</quote> <cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote>He's not innocent. There was other tangible evidence linking him to the murder. For example, before he was a suspect he confessed to a jailhouse snitch which directly led to detectives finding stolen goods from the victim in his car. His girlfriend also testified against him.</quote> Just because he robbed the house doesn't mean he killed the woman. Either way there is enough evidence for at the very least the execution to be stayed.</quote> His confession to murder directly led to that discovery in his car. Coincidence? No. He also had a history of violent burglaries.</quote> Explain this shit then</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fire_bolt 08/22/17 2:05:41 PM #8:	Ammonitida posted... Paper_Okami posted... Ammonitida posted... He's not innocent. There was other tangible evidence linking him to the murder. For example, before he was a suspect he confessed to a jailhouse snitch which directly led to detectives finding stolen goods from the victim in his car. His girlfriend also testified against him. Just because he robbed the house doesn't mean he killed the woman. Either way there is enough evidence for at the very least the execution to be stayed. His confession to murder directly led to that discovery in his car. Coincidence? No. He also had a history of violent burglaries. His confession to murder to ANOTHER criminal, who stands to gain by lying in the form of reduced sentencing? Yeah, really solid evidence there. It's literally fucking hearsay and would be thrown out in any state not as backwards as Missouri --- If her hips don't break, you didn't "carry" hard enough" -SpunkySix http://steamcommunity.com/id/bolt_thundara/wishlist <cite>fire_bolt posted [p:885245116] in Missouri i... [t:75697127]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote>He's not innocent. There was other tangible evidence linking him to the murder. For example, before he was a suspect he confessed to a jailhouse snitch which directly led to detectives finding stolen goods from the victim in his car. His girlfriend also testified against him.</quote> Just because he robbed the house doesn't mean he killed the woman. Either way there is enough evidence for at the very least the execution to be stayed.</quote> His confession to murder directly led to that discovery in his car. Coincidence? No. He also had a history of violent burglaries.</quote> His confession to murder to ANOTHER criminal, who stands to gain by lying in the form of reduced sentencing? Yeah, really solid evidence there. It's literally fucking hearsay and would be thrown out in any state not as backwards as Missouri</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Twin3Turbo 08/22/17 2:06:37 PM #9:	Paper_Okami posted... Explain this s* then Technically the quote says no physical evidence, which matches up with his statement. That being said I'm not entirely certain of the circumstances of his confession so I'm not going to say that it's a solid piece of evidence yet. --- https://imgflip.com/gif/di4a4 <cite>Twin3Turbo posted [p:885245169] in Missouri i... [t:75697127]...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote>Explain this s* then </quote> Technically the quote says no physical evidence, which matches up with his statement. That being said I'm not entirely certain of the circumstances of his confession so I'm not going to say that it's a solid piece of evidence yet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 08/22/17 2:06:49 PM #10:	Paper_Okami posted... Explain this shit then Errors happen. FBI admits forensic evidence errors in hundreds of cases http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-32380051 --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:885245181] in Missouri i... [t:75697127]...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote> Explain this shit then</quote> Errors happen. FBI admits forensic evidence errors in hundreds of cases http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-32380051</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Colorahdo 08/22/17 2:09:01 PM #11:	Innocent of murder maybe but still a violent felon... --- But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them - bring them here and kill them in front of me ~Jesus Christ <cite>Colorahdo posted [p:885245299] in Missouri i... [t:75697127]...</cite> <quote>Innocent of murder maybe but still a violent felon...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ammonitida 08/22/17 2:09:40 PM #12:	fire_bolt posted... Ammonitida posted... Paper_Okami posted... Ammonitida posted... He's not innocent. There was other tangible evidence linking him to the murder. For example, before he was a suspect he confessed to a jailhouse snitch which directly led to detectives finding stolen goods from the victim in his car. His girlfriend also testified against him. Just because he robbed the house doesn't mean he killed the woman. Either way there is enough evidence for at the very least the execution to be stayed. His confession to murder directly led to that discovery in his car. Coincidence? No. He also had a history of violent burglaries. His confession to murder to ANOTHER criminal, who stands to gain by lying in the form of reduced sentencing? Yeah, really solid evidence there. It's literally fucking hearsay and would be thrown out in any state not as backwards as Missouri You're missing the point. The confession directly led to that discovery in the perp's car. That alone gives credibility to the jailhouse snitch. His girlfriend, who had no motive, also gave incriminating testimony against him. The DNA on the knife has no significance to the murder. <cite>Ammonitida posted [p:885245331] in Missouri i... [t:75697127]...</cite> <quote><cite>fire_bolt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote>He's not innocent. There was other tangible evidence linking him to the murder. For example, before he was a suspect he confessed to a jailhouse snitch which directly led to detectives finding stolen goods from the victim in his car. His girlfriend also testified against him.</quote> Just because he robbed the house doesn't mean he killed the woman. Either way there is enough evidence for at the very least the execution to be stayed.</quote> His confession to murder directly led to that discovery in his car. Coincidence? No. He also had a history of violent burglaries.</quote> His confession to murder to ANOTHER criminal, who stands to gain by lying in the form of reduced sentencing? Yeah, really solid evidence there. It's literally fucking hearsay and would be thrown out in any state not as backwards as Missouri</quote> You're missing the point. The confession directly led to that discovery in the perp's car. That alone gives credibility to the jailhouse snitch. His girlfriend, who had no motive, also gave incriminating testimony against him. The DNA on the knife has no significance to the murder.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 08/22/17 2:17:33 PM #13:	Ammonitida posted... The DNA on the knife has no significance to the murder. This too. There's no natural law that says the DNA on the weapon is the murderer's. There's so many opportunities for mishandling evidence, messing up the tests, etc etc etc, while I have great respect for forensic science, it's not an absolute thing. It lacks the rigor of other sciences, you can't just get a new murder weapon and test again and the longer you store stuff, the more time there is for tampering and such. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:885245785] in Missouri i... [t:75697127]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote> The DNA on the knife has no significance to the murder.</quote> This too. There's no natural law that says the DNA on the weapon is the murderer's. There's so many opportunities for mishandling evidence, messing up the tests, etc etc etc, while I have great respect for forensic science, it's not an absolute thing. It lacks the rigor of other sciences, you can't just get a new murder weapon and test again and the longer you store stuff, the more time there is for tampering and such.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 08/22/17 2:18:11 PM #14:	Ammonitida posted... The DNA on the knife has no significance to the murder The dna on the murder weapon is always significant <cite>Zikten posted [p:885245823] in Missouri i... [t:75697127]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote>The DNA on the knife has no significance to the murder</quote> The dna on the murder weapon is always significant</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
itachi15243 08/22/17 2:18:49 PM #15:	I'd find it believable if he and someone else robbed the place and his buddy killed them. Which I guess could make him guilty. But we don't know very much about any of this. There's no way any of you can say he's guilty beyond doubt. I say they should at least ask him if he wants another trial, or at least not execute him yet and wait for more evidence --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz <cite>itachi15243 posted [p:885245859] in Missouri i... [t:75697127]...</cite> <quote>I'd find it believable if he and someone else robbed the place and his buddy killed them. Which I guess could make him guilty. But we don't know very much about any of this. There's no way any of you can say he's guilty beyond doubt. I say they should at least ask him if he wants another trial, or at least not execute him yet and wait for more evidence</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fire_bolt 08/22/17 2:20:15 PM #16:	Ammonitida posted... fire_bolt posted... Ammonitida posted... Paper_Okami posted... Ammonitida posted... He's not innocent. There was other tangible evidence linking him to the murder. For example, before he was a suspect he confessed to a jailhouse snitch which directly led to detectives finding stolen goods from the victim in his car. His girlfriend also testified against him. Just because he robbed the house doesn't mean he killed the woman. Either way there is enough evidence for at the very least the execution to be stayed. His confession to murder directly led to that discovery in his car. Coincidence? No. He also had a history of violent burglaries. His confession to murder to ANOTHER criminal, who stands to gain by lying in the form of reduced sentencing? Yeah, really solid evidence there. It's literally fucking hearsay and would be thrown out in any state not as backwards as Missouri You're missing the point. The confession directly led to that discovery in the perp's car. That alone gives credibility to the jailhouse snitch. His girlfriend, who had no motive, also gave incriminating testimony against him. The DNA on the knife has no significance to the murder. And again, robbing someone =/= killing them. The DA convicted this guy completely on circumstantial evidence when there is now hard evidence that he DIDN'T kill anyone. It's bullshit. Not saying the guy needs to be turned loose ASAP but they need to stop the execution and try to figure out wtf really happened. Hell, death sentences shouldn't even be allowed to be handed out for circumstantial convictions in the first place --- If her hips don't break, you didn't "carry" hard enough" -SpunkySix http://steamcommunity.com/id/bolt_thundara/wishlist <cite>fire_bolt posted [p:885245940] in Missouri i... [t:75697127]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fire_bolt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote>He's not innocent. There was other tangible evidence linking him to the murder. For example, before he was a suspect he confessed to a jailhouse snitch which directly led to detectives finding stolen goods from the victim in his car. His girlfriend also testified against him.</quote> Just because he robbed the house doesn't mean he killed the woman. Either way there is enough evidence for at the very least the execution to be stayed.</quote> His confession to murder directly led to that discovery in his car. Coincidence? No. He also had a history of violent burglaries.</quote> His confession to murder to ANOTHER criminal, who stands to gain by lying in the form of reduced sentencing? Yeah, really solid evidence there. It's literally fucking hearsay and would be thrown out in any state not as backwards as Missouri</quote> You're missing the point. The confession directly led to that discovery in the perp's car. That alone gives credibility to the jailhouse snitch. His girlfriend, who had no motive, also gave incriminating testimony against him. The DNA on the knife has no significance to the murder.</quote> And again, robbing someone =/= killing them. The DA convicted this guy completely on circumstantial evidence when there is now hard evidence that he DIDN'T kill anyone. It's bullshit. Not saying the guy needs to be turned loose ASAP but they need to stop the execution and try to figure out wtf really happened. Hell, death sentences shouldn't even be allowed to be handed out for circumstantial convictions in the first place</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ammonitida 08/22/17 2:22:36 PM #17:	Decide for yourselves. This PDF lays out all the evidence, pro and con. https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/files/pdf/Williams_8CAOpinion_2012.pdf I think there is a strong circumstantial case that he is guilty. But perhaps the death penalty may be too extreme for such a case. I don't agree with the death penalty anyway. <cite>Ammonitida posted [p:885246081] in Missouri i... [t:75697127]...</cite> <quote>Decide for yourselves. This PDF lays out all the evidence, pro and con. https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/files/pdf/Williams_8CAOpinion_2012.pdf I think there is a strong circumstantial case that he is guilty. But perhaps the death penalty may be too extreme for such a case. I don't agree with the death penalty anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaWarrior455 08/22/17 2:24:12 PM #18:	Ammonitida posted... Decide for yourselves. This PDF lays out all the evidence, pro and con. https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/files/pdf/Williams_8CAOpinion_2012.pdf I think there is a strong circumstantial case that he is guilty. If the case is circumstantial then it isn't strong to begin with. --- Fire Billy Davis http://myanimelist.net/animelist/NinjaWarrior457 <cite>NinjaWarrior455 posted [p:885246187] in Missouri i... [t:75697127]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote>Decide for yourselves. This PDF lays out all the evidence, pro and con. https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/files/pdf/Williams_8CAOpinion_2012.pdf I think there is a strong circumstantial case that he is guilty.</quote> If the case is circumstantial then it isn't strong to begin with.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ammonitida 08/22/17 2:24:53 PM #19:	NinjaWarrior455 posted... Ammonitida posted... Decide for yourselves. This PDF lays out all the evidence, pro and con. https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/files/pdf/Williams_8CAOpinion_2012.pdf I think there is a strong circumstantial case that he is guilty. If the case is circumstantial then it isn't strong to begin with. I edited my comment to reflect that. <cite>Ammonitida posted [p:885246222] in Missouri i... [t:75697127]...</cite> <quote><cite>NinjaWarrior455 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote>Decide for yourselves. This PDF lays out all the evidence, pro and con. https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/files/pdf/Williams_8CAOpinion_2012.pdf I think there is a strong circumstantial case that he is guilty.</quote> If the case is circumstantial then it isn't strong to begin with.</quote> I edited my comment to reflect that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 08/22/17 2:25:51 PM #20:	Get a load of this armchair lawyer --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. http://i.imgtc.com/tHc3mIo.png http://i.imgtc.com/PYxw8Lm.png <cite>Irony posted [p:885246270] in Missouri i... [t:75697127]...</cite> <quote>Get a load of this armchair lawyer</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Horus_Leftfield 08/22/17 2:27:50 PM #21:	Innocent black people are killed every year and nobody ever cares. If they did we wouldn't have capital punishment. <cite>Horus_Leftfield posted [p:885246398] in Missouri i... [t:75697127]...</cite> <quote>Innocent black people are killed every year and nobody ever cares. If they did we wouldn't have capital punishment.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
itachi15243 08/22/17 2:35:05 PM #22:	Ammonitida posted... Decide for yourselves. This PDF lays out all the evidence, pro and con. https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/files/pdf/Williams_8CAOpinion_2012.pdf I think there is a strong circumstantial case that he is guilty. But perhaps the death penalty may be too extreme for such a case. I don't agree with the death penalty anyway. The state supreme court, when framing the inquiry on appeal, likewise recited the Strickland standard precisely, saying that a movant must show a “reasonable probability” of a different outcome. Considering the DNA evidence, many different outcomes are possible. And then the fact that his lawyer seems to have done jack shit for him The Court notes that counsel rebutted petitioner’s complaint that counsel should have moved to suppress petitioner’s confession. Counsel offered two reasons for not filing the motion. Counsel asserts it was clear that petitioner was not in custody when he gave his confession, noting that petitioner “never believed that he was in custody and admitted to me that he realized he was not in custody when he and his brothers and another friend voluntarily came to the police department to give the recorded statement.” Because petitioner was not in custody when he gave his statement, there was no basis for filing a motion to suppress. Counsel further explains that he did not move to suppress because petitioner had previously confessed his participation in the crime to his brother (Raymond Moore) and another friend. Both Raymond Moore and the friend could have been called as witnesses to repeat petitioner’s confession. A motion to suppress would have been fruitless. The Court finds that there is very little chance that petitioner’s confession would have been suppressed. Given petitioner’s confession, counsel obtained the best plea offer he could for petitioner and petitioner accepted the offer after careful consideration. He deserves a new trial, sounds like a shit ton of hearsay For all we know the brother could have set him up --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz <cite>itachi15243 posted [p:885246812] in Missouri i... [t:75697127]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote>Decide for yourselves. This PDF lays out all the evidence, pro and con. https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/files/pdf/Williams_8CAOpinion_2012.pdf I think there is a strong circumstantial case that he is guilty. But perhaps the death penalty may be too extreme for such a case. I don't agree with the death penalty anyway.</quote> The state supreme court, when framing the inquiry on appeal, likewise recited the Strickland standard precisely, saying that a movant must show a “reasonable probability” of a different outcome. Considering the DNA evidence, many different outcomes are possible. And then the fact that his lawyer seems to have done jack shit for him The Court notes that counsel rebutted petitioner’s complaint that counsel should have moved to suppress petitioner’s confession. Counsel offered two reasons for not filing the motion. Counsel asserts it was clear that petitioner was not in custody when he gave his confession, noting that petitioner “never believed that he was in custody and admitted to me that he realized he was not in custody when he and his brothers and another friend voluntarily came to the police department to give the recorded statement.” Because petitioner was not in custody when he gave his statement, there was no basis for filing a motion to suppress. Counsel further explains that he did not move to suppress because petitioner had previously confessed his participation in the crime to his brother (Raymond Moore) and another friend. Both Raymond Moore and the friend could have been called as witnesses to repeat petitioner’s confession. A motion to suppress would have been fruitless. The Court finds that there is very little chance that petitioner’s confession would have been suppressed. Given petitioner’s confession, counsel obtained the best plea offer he could for petitioner and petitioner accepted the offer after careful consideration. He deserves a new trial, sounds like a shit ton of hearsay For all we know the brother could have set him up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YellowSUV 08/22/17 2:51:48 PM #23:	Looks like I'm still 100% right on the "guess the race game". --- We all live in a Yellow SUV! a Yellow SUV! <cite>YellowSUV posted [p:885247791] in Missouri i... [t:75697127]...</cite> <quote>Looks like I'm still 100% right on the "guess the race game".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 08/22/17 3:04:09 PM #24:	https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/900070029940723712 Execution was stayed! --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:885248511] in Missouri i... [t:75697127]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/900070029940723712 Execution was stayed!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 08/22/17 3:27:17 PM #25:	Paper_Okami posted... https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/900070029940723712 Execution was stayed! Missouri doing something right for once in that miserable state's life <cite>Axiom posted [p:885249924] in Missouri i... [t:75697127]...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/900070029940723712 Execution was stayed!</quote> Missouri doing something right for once in that miserable state's life</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bok_Choi 08/22/17 3:31:09 PM #27:	what happened to reasonable doubt --- I'm a good person. http://i.imgur.com/uj8LmVSl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xPDF9Y0.jpg <cite>Bok_Choi posted [p:885250134] in Missouri i... [t:75697127]...</cite> <quote>what happened to reasonable doubt</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 08/22/17 3:34:00 PM #28:	Bok_Choi posted... what happened to reasonable doubt Look above, he got a stay of execution. --- when you stub your toes it's the SJWs fualt. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:885250282] in Missouri i... [t:75697127]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bok_Choi posted...</cite> <quote>what happened to reasonable doubt</quote> Look above, he got a stay of execution.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Topic List	Page List: 1

Current Events > Missouri is about to execute an innocent man. (+) Yeah! (+)

Current Events > Missouri is about to execute an innocent man.