Current Events > How about instead of tearing down Confederate monuments and destroying them

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They instead are auctioned off to private bidders whom want to own them?

This way we're not destroying (controversial) artwork, history doesn't get erased, white people can't complain about disrespecting their heritage, and best of all millions can be raised for public works projects?
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Great solution tbh.
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And we get to know who to avoid in public when we find out who bought them. I'm on board.
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That is what has been happening, at least in some cases. Rich people have contributed to mayor "contribution funds" to get the city to approve paying for removing the statue and giving it to the contributor.
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We should put the statues in the homes of people who say they won't remember the Confederacy if they don't have statues celebrating it.

Can I have a statue of MLK Jr after they get taken down because he was against homosexuality?
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What happens if the private buyer opens a museum of White Supremacy?
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They belong in museums.
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nayr626 posted...

What happens if the private buyer opens a museum of White Supremacy?

I mean there's a Museum of the Mafia, so it only seems fair.
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If anyone wanted them they would have offered it already.

BillyKidd posted...

Can I have a statue of MLK Jr after they get taken down because he was against homosexuality?

That's a myth.
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The Deadpool posted...

If anyone wanted them they would have offered it already.

BillyKidd posted...

Can I have a statue of MLK Jr after they get taken down because he was against homosexuality?

That's a myth.

Even if it wasn't, the two are hardly equivalent.

Not a myth. look up "mlk homosexuality" and take your pick on sources. He believed being gay was a sin; but to hate the sin and not the sinner.

Nowhere in my statement did I claim an equivalency. Point is, if you study history, this type of behavior never stops at just one instance. Squash one instance, they got to find something next to go after, etc... into a hateful never ending cycle of eliminating opposing ideals.

What is astounding is why so many Robert E. Lee statues liberals want to take down. The man was a war hero and was one of the leaders in winning the Mexican-American war. He didn't own slaves. He opposed slavery. The Civil War was about the south wanting to secede from the Union. The Union didn't want them to leave, because they didn't want to lose the Mississippi delta in LA and other vital ground they intended to use for railways and the like. It wasn't until morale was down and people didn't want to fight anymore that almost 2 years into the war Pres. Lincoln made the war a moral war about emancipating slaves.
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BillyKidd posted...

Nowhere in my statement did I claim an equivalency. Point is, if you study history, this type of behavior never stops at just one instance. Squash one instance, they got to find something next to go after, etc... into a hateful never ending cycle of eliminating opposing ideals.

It would have been better if you argued for equivalency. Because this is a slippery slope argument, and can easily be dismissed.

Bu-bu-but my feelings
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So MLK is the latest thing trolls are using as a counterpoint?
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BillyKidd posted...

Not a myth. look up "mlk homosexuality" and take your pick on sources. He believed being gay was a sin; but to hate the sin and not the sinner.

Nowhere in my statement did I claim an equivalency. Point is, if you study history, this type of behavior never stops at just one instance. Squash one instance, they got to find something next to go after, etc... into a hateful never ending cycle of eliminating opposing ideals.

What is astounding is why so many Robert E. Lee statues liberals want to take down. The man was a war hero and was one of the leaders in winning the Mexican-American war. He didn't own slaves. He opposed slavery. The Civil War was about the south wanting to secede from the Union. The Union didn't want them to leave, because they didn't want to lose the Mississippi delta in LA and other vital ground they intended to use for railways and the like. It wasn't until morale was down and people didn't want to fight anymore that almost 2 years into the war Pres. Lincoln made the war a moral war about emancipating slaves.

Dude, it was about slavery. The Confederacy wanted to leave because they thought the Republican Party, and Lincoln in particular, would lead the United States to the abolition of slavery. Lee fought with the Confederacy because his loyalty lied with region over nation. That's it.

Oh, and the Mexican War has been regarded as an unjust war of greed, even by some of its own veterans, namely U.S. Grant.
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iPhone_7 posted...

So MLK is the latest thing trolls are using as a counterpoint?

It's pathetic and demonstrates a misunderstanding of the issues. The issue is not, Confederates held 'political beliefs contrary to modern values', it's that they fought a traitorous war to maintain ownership of black people, and that should not be valorized, romanticized, and celebrated in statuary. No one erects a memorial to MLK based on his positions toward gay marriage. People erect statutes to Confederate leadership to memorialize support for white domination.
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Donomark posted...

People erect statutes to Confederate leadership to memorialize support for white domination.

I am absolutely not a Confederacy sympathizer, but this isn't completely true.
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ForestLogic posted...

Donomark posted...

People erect statutes to Confederate leadership to memorialize support for white domination.

I am absolutely not a Confederacy sympathizer, but this isn't completely true.

Ask a black person sometime about what they think of Confederate statues

wah_wah_wah posted...

ForestLogic posted...

Donomark posted...

People erect statutes to Confederate leadership to memorialize support for white domination.

I am absolutely not a Confederacy sympathizer, but this isn't completely true.

Ask a black person sometime about what they think of Confederate statues

Why is that relevant? I already know what alot of black people think about them, but their thoughts about them aren't the be all end all of the situation.
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Yea like sell them to a private collector who can display them on their private property and if you don't like what you see then just don't look at them.

And the money made could go back into the community.
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creativerealms posted...

They belong in museums.

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