Current Events > Confederate statues are falling down and beging remove all over the country.

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OpheliaAdenade posted...

That's not heroism in any sense of the word.

Sure it is, Sherman and Grant's tyrannical march through the South can still be felt today. Men like Lee saved my home from the fate caused by those Yankee monsters who you only give support to because you're brainwashed by the corrupt biased media
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The Top Crusader posted...

Martin Luther King Jr was against gay marriage, are they coming for his statues next? >_>

Are you this fucking dense or do you just like to repost shit from the_donald or whatever low effort Facebook pages you follow
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ZombiePelican posted...

OpheliaAdenade posted...

That's not heroism in any sense of the word.

Sure it is, Sherman and Grant's tyrannical march through the South can still be felt today. Men like Lee saved my home from the fate caused by those Yankee monsters who you only give support to because you're brainwashed by the corrupt biased media

Lmao
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ZombiePelican posted...

Sherman and Grant's tyrannical march through the South can still be felt today.

So can slavery. Southern history isn't just white southern history.
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ZMythos posted...

The Top Crusader posted...

Martin Luther King Jr was against gay marriage, are they coming for his statues next? >_>

Are you this fucking dense or do you just like to repost shit from the_donald or whatever low effort Facebook pages you follow

ITP:Facts that poke holes in my narrative are fake news
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ZombiePelican posted...

OpheliaAdenade posted...

That's not heroism in any sense of the word.

Sure it is, Sherman and Grant's tyrannical march through the South can still be felt today. Men like Lee saved my home from the fate caused by those Yankee monsters who you only give support to because you're brainwashed by the corrupt biased media

So you think you're being oppressed because your slave owning ancestors were on the losing side of a war?
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muchdran posted...

You know who else tried to erase history?

Every regime ever?
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ZombiePelican posted...

ZMythos posted...

The Top Crusader posted...

Martin Luther King Jr was against gay marriage, are they coming for his statues next? >_>

Are you this fucking dense or do you just like to repost shit from the_donald or whatever low effort Facebook pages you follow

ITP:Facts that poke holes in my narrative are fake news

I Don't recall white supremacists committing acts of terror and murder because Dr. King once said he opposed gay marriage

Don't remember him worshiping flags of treason and oppression either

While your head is up your ass, give yourself a diagnosis on how butthurt you are
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ZombiePelican posted...

ZMythos posted...

The Top Crusader posted...

Martin Luther King Jr was against gay marriage, are they coming for his statues next? >_>

Are you this fucking dense or do you just like to repost shit from the_donald or whatever low effort Facebook pages you follow

ITP:Facts that poke holes in my narrative are fake news

As was already stated, "MLK Jr was against gay marriage" is not a fact.
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See I didn't realize our sole method of learning history in the USA was by looking at statues. My schools always relied on books. I should go tell them they were doing it wrong
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Antifar posted...

ZombiePelican posted...

Sherman and Grant's tyrannical march through the South can still be felt today.

So can slavery. Southern history isn't just white southern history.

It had nothing to do with slavery, even then The North attacked first, there's a reason why everywhere on Earth other than the North it's called the war of Northern Agression
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ZombiePelican posted...

It had nothing to do with slavery, even then The North attacked first, there's a reason why everywhere on Earth other than the North it's called the war of Northern Agression

lmao

ZombiePelican posted...

there's a reason why everywhere on Earth other than the North it's called the war or Northern Agression

From Wikipedia:

The name "War of Northern Aggression" has been used to indicate the Union side as the belligerent party in the war.[22] Though sometimes used only jokingly today,[23] the name arose in the 1950s during the Jim Crow era, when it was coined by segregationists who tried to equate contemporary efforts to end segregation with 19th century efforts to abolish slavery.

So, more lies from you.
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Broseph_Stalin posted...

lmao

The only accounts of the civil war being about Slavery are from history books written by Yankees to slander the good names of heroes like Robert E Lee and Jefferson Davis
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ZombiePelican posted...

there's a reason why everywhere on Earth other than the North it's called the war of Northern Agression

But this is not true.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_the_American_Civil_Wa

In several European languages, the war is called "War of Secession". In most East Asian languages, the war is called "Battle between North and South side of the United States" or more commonly as "American (US) North–South War", depending on the individual language.
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English-speaking historians[9][10][11] outside the United States usually refer to the conflict as the "American Civil War". These variations are also used in the United States in cases in which the war might otherwise be confused with another historical event (such as the English Civil War, the Irish Civil War or the Spanish Civil War).

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That_Happened posted...

ZombiePelican posted...

there's a reason why everywhere on Earth other than the North it's called the war or Northern Agression

From Wikipedia:

The name "War of Northern Aggression" has been used to indicate the Union side as the belligerent party in the war.[22] Though sometimes used only jokingly today,[23] the name arose in the 1950s during the Jim Crow era, when it was coined by segregationists who tried to equate contemporary efforts to end segregation with 19th century efforts to abolish slavery.

So, more lies from you.

I would guess he was mistaken, not lying. Why are you saying he is lying?
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That_Happened posted...

ZombiePelican posted...

there's a reason why everywhere on Earth other than the North it's called the war or Northern Agression

From Wikipedia:

The name "War of Northern Aggression" has been used to indicate the Union side as the belligerent party in the war.[22] Though sometimes used only jokingly today,[23] the name arose in the 1950s during the Jim Crow era, when it was coined by segregationists who tried to equate contemporary efforts to end segregation with 19th century efforts to abolish slavery.

So, more lies from you.

Unironcially using Wikipedia as a source who have an entire council designed to ensure their articles have a regressive left skew to them.

Ok pal, whatever you say
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Yeah zombie is southern so it's more likely he never received an education.

ZombiePelican posted...

Broseph_Stalin posted...

lmao

The only accounts of the civil war being about Slavery are from history books written by Yankees to slander the good names of heroes like Robert E Lee amd Jefferson Davis

Ok now I know you're just shitposting

BootyGif posted...

ZombiePelican posted...

Broseph_Stalin posted...

lmao

The only accounts of the civil war being about Slavery are from history books written by Yankees to slander the good names of heroes like Robert E Lee amd Jefferson Davis

Ok now I know you're just shitposting

ashlee calls him zomebiepidgeon for a reason
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Broseph_Stalin posted...

Yeah zombie is southern so it's more likely he never received an education.

I don't need no fancy book learnin from no dang Yankees
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LordRazziel posted...

I would guess he was mistaken, not lying. Why are you saying he is lying?

Track record. Further up on this page he was spreading lies about MLK Jr, and other users recognize him as a troll. If you want to give him the benefit of the doubt though, I won't stop you.
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ZombiePelican posted...

That_Happened posted...

ZombiePelican posted...

there's a reason why everywhere on Earth other than the North it's called the war or Northern Agression

From Wikipedia:

The name "War of Northern Aggression" has been used to indicate the Union side as the belligerent party in the war.[22] Though sometimes used only jokingly today,[23] the name arose in the 1950s during the Jim Crow era, when it was coined by segregationists who tried to equate contemporary efforts to end segregation with 19th century efforts to abolish slavery.

So, more lies from you.

Unironcially using Wikipedia as a source who have an entire council designed to ensure their articles have a regressive left skew to them.

Ok pal, whatever you say

This is ridiculous, too.

I need a break from CE. People just want to be right. Nothing more. Too frustrating.
Later.
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LordRazziel posted...

ZombiePelican posted...

That_Happened posted...

ZombiePelican posted...

there's a reason why everywhere on Earth other than the North it's called the war or Northern Agression

From Wikipedia:

The name "War of Northern Aggression" has been used to indicate the Union side as the belligerent party in the war.[22] Though sometimes used only jokingly today,[23] the name arose in the 1950s during the Jim Crow era, when it was coined by segregationists who tried to equate contemporary efforts to end segregation with 19th century efforts to abolish slavery.

So, more lies from you.

Unironcially using Wikipedia as a source who have an entire council designed to ensure their articles have a regressive left skew to them.

Ok pal, whatever you say

This is ridiculous, too.

I need a break from CE. People just want to be right. Nothing more. Too frustrating.
Later.

Did you not see how they use Kotaku blogs as sources on certain gaming articles while denouncing other blogs as sources anywhere else? Don't be daft
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That_Happened posted...

LordRazziel posted...

I would guess he was mistaken, not lying. Why are you saying he is lying?

Track record. Further up on this page he was spreading lies about MLK Jr, and other users recognize him as a troll. If you want to give him the benefit of the doubt though, I won't stop you.

The only people who call me a troll just don't like that I'm always right or that I refuse to pull punches or budge on any of my stances EVER
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That_Happened posted...

ZombiePelican posted...

ZMythos posted...

The Top Crusader posted...

Martin Luther King Jr was against gay marriage, are they coming for his statues next? >_>

Are you this fucking dense or do you just like to repost shit from the_donald or whatever low effort Facebook pages you follow

ITP:Facts that poke holes in my narrative are fake news

As was already stated, "MLK Jr was against gay marriage" is not a fact.

He was a Baptist Minister. One cannot simultaneously prescribe to the Baptist Faith and be in favor of gay marriage.

I hate to live in a world where once a statue is put up it can never be taken down.
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C7D posted...

He was a Baptist Minister. One cannot simultaneously prescribe to the Baptist Faith and be in favor of gay marriage.

People are allowed to have their own interpretations of scripture.
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OpheliaAdenade posted...

C7D posted...

He was a Baptist Minister. One cannot simultaneously prescribe to the Baptist Faith and be in favor of gay marriage.

People are allowed to have their own interpretations of scripture.

Romans 1:26-28 is pretty clear...

CrimsonRage posted...

ZombiePelican posted...

Broseph_Stalin posted...

lmao

The only accounts of the civil war being about Slavery are from history books written by Yankees to slander the good names of heroes like Robert E Lee and Jefferson Davis

So you support the Confederacy?

Of course, they stood for freedom and independence from Northern oppression, why wouldn't you?
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ZombiePelican posted...

Of course, they stood for freedom and independence from Northern oppression, why wouldn't you?

Because "northern oppression" was a much smaller issue than the oppression felt by those who were slaves.
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I don't care, good riddance.
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ZombiePelican posted...

CrimsonRage posted...

ZombiePelican posted...

Broseph_Stalin posted...

lmao

The only accounts of the civil war being about Slavery are from history books written by Yankees to slander the good names of heroes like Robert E Lee and Jefferson Davis

So you support the Confederacy?

Of course, they stood for freedom and independence from Northern oppression, why wouldn't you?

They literally committed treason because they didn't want to lose their human livestock.
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Antifar posted...

ZombiePelican posted...

Of course, they stood for freedom and independence from Northern oppression, why wouldn't you?

Because "northern oppression" was a much smaller issue than the oppression felt by those who were slaves.

When will this myth finally die? Only in Northern propaganda was the civil war ever about slavery. Southerners were tired of being opressed by Yankee pencil pushers who kept trying to bleed us dry to we succeeded and they didn't like that so they attacled, again. There's a reason why it's known as the war or Northern aggression
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Know who also thought we shouldn't erect statues of the Confederacy?

Robert E Lee

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/robert-e-lee-opposed-confederate-monuments/

“I think it wiser,” the retired military leader wrote about a proposed Gettysburg memorial in 1869, “…not to keep open the sores of war but to follow the examples of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife, to commit to oblivion the feelings engendered.”
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Fuck 'em. They shouldnt have been built in the first place. In fact, the government shouldnt build any statues of anything or anyone. Why take taxpayer money just to waste it building a fucking statue of a dead guy?

ZombiePelican posted...

Only in Northern propaganda was the civil war ever about slavery.

http://www.civil-war.net/pages/mississippi_declaration.asp

A Declaration of the Immediate Causes which Induce and Justify the Secession of the State of Mississippi from the Federal Union

In the momentous step, which our State has taken of dissolving its connection with the government of which we so long formed a part, it is but just that we should declare the prominent reasons which have induced our course.

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery - the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product, which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin.

http://civilwarcauses.org/corner.htm

But not to be tedious in enumerating the numerous changes for the better, allow me to allude to one other -- though last, not least. The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution -- African slavery as it exists amongst us -- the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution.

Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests upon the great truth, that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery -- subordination to the superior race -- is his natural and normal condition. [Applause.] This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth.

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I think that Confederate statues with historic significance belong in a museum. Keep in mind that doesn't mean any statue of a confederate, of which many were put up to spite the Civil Rights movements, but ones that have a history surrounding it or legitimate artistic importance.

That's where Stone Mountain gets tricky. It's objectively a tribute to Confederacy, but it also carries with it historical significance and is if nothing else artistically impressive. So I don't know what the right answer is.
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ZombiePelican posted...

When will this myth finally die? Only in Northern propaganda was the civil war ever about slavery. Southerners were tired of being opressed by Yankee pencil pushers who kept trying to bleed us dry to we succeeded and they didn't like that so they attacked. Again, there's a reason why it's known as the war or Northern aggression

I rolled my eyes so hard at this that they almost fell out of my head.

Whatever, stay ignorant dude, historians and the facts are correct and you are wrong.
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Gheb posted...

That's where Stone Mountain gets tricky. It's objectively a tribute to Confederacy, but it also carries with it historical significance and is if nothing else artistically impressive. So I don't know what the right answer is.

Call it "art" and move on, without any obligation whatsoever to point lighting at it.

Confederacy defenders are a lot like Marvel/DC comic writers. The more time passes, the more they try to retcon past events.
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Im indifferent about this but wow... the activists are taking it to the next level and we should all be concerned. These guys arent heroes. Theyre as much as their counterparts are. These guys are using the excuse of hate to commit their own crimes.

These activists are going too far and using the mob to destroy property. It stood there for decades as a monumental and part of the community. Sure they might of not liked it but the statue didnt mean it stood up for inequality. It also meant a recognition of the past, a moment to reflect on life back then, and a how we can make it better for all citizens. It represented growth to rise above hate and how far we as society have gone. To me, forgetting the past like that makes us even more susceptible to repeat it. Guess whats happening... civil unrest. Racial tension. Its out there in the open no longer present in closed doors. Its here and in your face.

What happens when theres nothing left to destroy and take down. Guess what... the symbol the represent some people live on then these activists will stomp out the hate and bigotry with their own hate and bigotry towards it.

Dont you see. People respond to this kind of thing because they took something that wasnt theirs. Its inevitable we are going to see more of everything now. Social media made everything transparent and the mob mentality is affecting us all.
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

Whatever, stay ignorant dude, historians and the facts are correct and you are wrong.

Yankee historians who intentionally wrote books full of lies and half truths to slander the good names of heroes like Robert E Lee and Jefferson Davis. You are a victim in all this just as much as any true southerner with these monuments being destroyed, brainwashed by the corrupt and biased media, one day I hope you open your eyes and see the truth
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ZombiePelican posted...

Yankee historians who intentionally wrote books full of lies and half truths to slander the good names of heroes like Robert E Lee and Jefferson Davis.

Yankee historians did not make the VP of the Confederacy claim that slavery was the cornerstone of Confederate society
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Good, fuck the confederacy
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You know who else tears down statues?

ISIS
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