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Webmaster4531
08/13/17 2:43:14 AM
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SpiralDrift posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
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Saying this on the same day a conservative killed someone for counter protesting.

You brought it up in the first place. Can't fault people just for replying.

I brought it up as a possible motivation for violent neo nazis. You don't see how agreeing with it is awful?

I get that you just wanted to throw the idea out there, but unless you were willing to put more thought into it and explain why you think there might be a link you can't really expect others to give more in-depth replies than you got.

Why I think there's a link is pretty obvious. Do I really need to explain that?
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Bio1590
08/13/17 2:44:00 AM
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It's just a coincidence these paramilitary wanna-bes keep showing up at white nationalist rallies.
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ImmortalHogRide
08/13/17 2:45:18 AM
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apocalyptic_4 posted...
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHET0EsXkAIcwcZ.jpg

neo nazi's literally beating a black youth with sticks

Let me guess, he was just walking along and didn't to anything wrong at all.


Yes let's give those violent protesters the benefit of a doubt.

You say that as if the left isn't full of violent protesters as well.
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Sativa_Rose
08/13/17 2:46:21 AM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
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Fine they're not Nazis they're just okay associating with, and marching alongside Nazis during a white nationalist rally. Being complicit is a thing. They're guilty of harboring these terrorists


They are terrorists now? Whatever happened to the old Voltaire quote

"I may not agree with what you have to say, but I defend to the death your right to say it" - Voltaire

Voltaire never actually said that though


Yeah I did read that it's actually something a biographer said to paraphrase Voltaire's works and that he personally probably never said that, but it's still often attributed to him. If not a quote, it is at least a summary of his stance.
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gunplagirl
08/13/17 2:47:03 AM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Fine they're not Nazis they're just okay associating with, and marching alongside Nazis during a white nationalist rally. Being complicit is a thing. They're guilty of harboring these terrorists


They are terrorists now? Whatever happened to the old Voltaire quote

"I may not agree with what you have to say, but I defend to the death your right to say it" - Voltaire


It's a bit of a stretch to interpret it as "I might not agree with you being a literal armed Nazi with a death toll in the millions, but I'll defend your right to meet publicly with weapons and discuss how you'll take back this country with violence".

Hot take: letting this type of rhetoric exist in the open is exactly why it's not died off. And with the election of president orange spray tan, they feel more emboldened than ever. If you think after today that they only exist in speech and that their words have no weight behind them, you're probably complicit in their crimes due to your passivity.
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SpiralDrift
08/13/17 2:48:09 AM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
SpiralDrift posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
SpiralDrift posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Saying this on the same day a conservative killed someone for counter protesting.

You brought it up in the first place. Can't fault people just for replying.

I brought it up as a possible motivation for violent neo nazis. You don't see how agreeing with it is awful?

I get that you just wanted to throw the idea out there, but unless you were willing to put more thought into it and explain why you think there might be a link you can't really expect others to give more in-depth replies than you got.

Why I think there's a link is pretty obvious. Do I really need to explain that?

It would help, yes.
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Sativa_Rose
08/13/17 2:49:07 AM
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a literal armed Nazi with a death toll in the millions


Is that what these people are though? These suburban white kids are responsible for a death toll in the millions?

I support free speech, but people who engage in violent crime should be arrested, prosecuted, convicted, and incarcerated.
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gunplagirl
08/13/17 2:49:40 AM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Fine they're not Nazis they're just okay associating with, and marching alongside Nazis during a white nationalist rally. Being complicit is a thing. They're guilty of harboring these terrorists


They are terrorists now? Whatever happened to the old Voltaire quote

"I may not agree with what you have to say, but I defend to the death your right to say it" - Voltaire

Voltaire never actually said that though


Yeah I did read that it's actually something a biographer said to paraphrase Voltaire's works and that he personally probably never said that, but it's still often attributed to him. If not a quote, it is at least a summary of his stance.

Hot take: most philosophers are full of it and not actually worth listening to as our understanding of the universe resolves many metaphysical quandaries.
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gunplagirl
08/13/17 2:54:19 AM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
gunplagirl posted...
a literal armed Nazi with a death toll in the millions


Is that what these people are though? These suburban white kids are responsible for a death toll in the millions?

I support free speech, but people who engage in violent crime should be arrested, prosecuted, convicted, and incarcerated.


Looks like a Nazi, waves a Nazi flag, salutes like a Nazi, probably a Nazi.


And the thing about your violent crime view is it still suggests that property crimes are somehow worse than armed groups meeting openly to discuss how they want to kill minorities. Those aren't empty threats, they have guns and other weapons there. Yet nobody ever arrests them for attempting to incite violence. Meanwhile a protest is scheduled following the murder of a young person of color and the national guard or swat police will guaranteed be there the first night, and use their weapons on peaceful protestors. Without fail.
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Webmaster4531
08/13/17 2:55:34 AM
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SpiralDrift posted...
It would help, yes.

The video calls for violence against liberals who it implies are creating a vast conspiracy with the media. A violent car attack happened today to counter protesters.

Meh, this was probably wasted on you.
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ImmortalHogRide
08/13/17 3:01:20 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Meanwhile a protest is scheduled following the murder of a young person of color and the national guard or swat police will guaranteed be there the first night, and use their weapons on peaceful protestors. Without fail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9JX2LUslmk

I wonder why.
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gunplagirl
08/13/17 3:04:56 AM
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ImmortalHogRide posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Meanwhile a protest is scheduled following the murder of a young person of color and the national guard or swat police will guaranteed be there the first night, and use their weapons on peaceful protestors. Without fail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9JX2LUslmk

I wonder why.

Oh yes that's 100% of the protests, and it was in fact followed up by zero cities being burnt to the ground.

U wot m8
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ImmortalHogRide
08/13/17 3:06:06 AM
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and it was in fact followed up by zero cities being burnt to the ground.

Yeah, just a few blocks. No biggie.
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ImmortalHogRide
08/13/17 11:55:12 AM
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Why is ImmortalHogRider siding with Neo-Nazis? I thought he just hated Islam, never pegged him for an actual racist/fascist.

How am I siding with them? I am just pointing out that both sides are two sides of the same coin.

Fuck all of them. Just let them all fight each other. There is no "good" side in this war.
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RebelElite791
08/13/17 2:37:01 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
Why is ImmortalHogRider siding with Neo-Nazis? I thought he just hated Islam, never pegged him for an actual racist/fascist.

I mean his most recent suspension that I'm aware of before his last account was banned was for saying super racist shit about black people.
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iosifsvoboda
08/13/17 5:48:10 PM
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ImmortalHogRide posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
Why is ImmortalHogRider siding with Neo-Nazis? I thought he just hated Islam, never pegged him for an actual racist/fascist.

How am I siding with them? I am just pointing out that both sides are two sides of the same coin.

Fuck all of them. Just let them all fight each other. There is no "good" side in this war.



Yeah there is no good side in a war of people who want everyone to get along and people who think that everyone that doesn't look like them is better off dead
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ImmortalHogRide
08/13/17 6:55:33 PM
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Yeah there is no good side in a war of people who want everyone to get along

Which side is that again?
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Returning_CEmen
08/13/17 6:58:12 PM
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WTF, this is such a bad situation
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Darmik
08/13/17 7:07:29 PM
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ImmortalHogRide posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
Why is ImmortalHogRider siding with Neo-Nazis? I thought he just hated Islam, never pegged him for an actual racist/fascist.

How am I siding with them? I am just pointing out that both sides are two sides of the same coin.

Fuck all of them. Just let them all fight each other. There is no "good" side in this war.


You literally tried to victim blame a black kid getting gang bashed by Nazi's.
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justaguy3492
08/13/17 7:09:31 PM
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Do any of the other "Many sides" have a tiny army?
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ImmortalHogRide
08/13/17 7:11:05 PM
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Darmik posted...
ImmortalHogRide posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
Why is ImmortalHogRider siding with Neo-Nazis? I thought he just hated Islam, never pegged him for an actual racist/fascist.

How am I siding with them? I am just pointing out that both sides are two sides of the same coin.

Fuck all of them. Just let them all fight each other. There is no "good" side in this war.


You literally tried to victim blame a black kid getting gang bashed by Nazi's.

No, I merely asked if he was just walking along and was attacked, or maybe he was antagonizing them like all of the other counter-protesters were.
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Darmik
08/13/17 7:17:03 PM
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ImmortalHogRide posted...
No, I merely asked if he was just walking along and was attacked, or maybe he was antagonizing them like all of the other counter-protesters were.


Even if it was the latter how does that justify gang bashing him? What counts as 'antagonizing' anyway? They're screaming Nazi rhetoric. Why wouldn't people yell back at them?
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ImmortalHogRide
08/13/17 7:18:53 PM
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Darmik posted...
ImmortalHogRide posted...
No, I merely asked if he was just walking along and was attacked, or maybe he was antagonizing them like all of the other counter-protesters were.


Even if it was the latter how does that justify gang bashing him? What counts as 'antagonizing' anyway? They're screaming Nazi rhetoric. Why wouldn't people yell back at them?

Yeah, because all those counter-protesters do is just yell back. They are not known for punching nazis at all.
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justaguy3492
08/13/17 7:31:16 PM
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ImmortalHogRide posted...
Yeah, because all those counter-protesters do is just yell back. They are not known for punching nazis at all.


The whole innocent until proven guilty part about the justice system must really keep you up at night.
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ImmortalHogRide
08/13/17 7:36:40 PM
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justaguy3492 posted...
ImmortalHogRide posted...
Yeah, because all those counter-protesters do is just yell back. They are not known for punching nazis at all.


The whole innocent until proven guilty part about the justice system must really keep you up at night.

No, I am fine with it in the court system. But this isn't the courts and the left isn't exactly innocent.
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Kaliesto
08/14/17 12:37:10 AM
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Leader of the rally was booed off the podium earlier today.

He deserved it for what he created.
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Medz2017
08/14/17 1:22:49 PM
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good thing they are not going to drop the ball like what Baltimore
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