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Okay so, everything happens naturally and the machines conquer but unable to wipe out humans cause of John Connor.

Machines send Arnold back before Sarah Connor conceived John to kill her.
At the same time, human resistance send Kyle Reese to protect Sarah and ends up fucking her becoming Johns biological father.

Wouldnt that change the John Connor in the original timeline because of butterfly effect?

The John would be different because his original dad wasn't Kyle Reese. And Sarah going through assassination n all that would dramatically change his path to becoming the resistance leader.

Is it there this theory on how every you try to change or alter the past, the river will still flow the same way. Like fate will always make John Connor become the leader and its fate that the humans will eventually win even if Arnold successfully kills Sarah Connor.

I havent seen Terminator 4 and 5. And T3 was a blur. These time travelling movies are confusing.
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Bruce Willis was dead the whole time
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Here we go again
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Basically every time somebody goes back in time, it creates a new fork in the future. The machines lose in all of them to John Connor.

Now most of the movies take place is a steadily advancing fork, so you don't get to see, for example, what happens in the future of Terminator 1 before Terminator 2 happens, and you don't get to see what happens in the future of Terminator 2 before Terminator 3. A machine apocalypse still eventually happens in both movies, and they get defeated both times. Although it's implied the machines do eventually kill John Connor in the future of Terminator 2
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ChromaticAngel posted...

Basically every time somebody goes back in time, it creates a new fork in the future. The machines lose in all of them to John Connor.

Now most of the movies take place is a steadily advancing fork, so you don't get to see, for example, what happens in the future of Terminator 1 before Terminator 2 happens, and you don't get to see what happens in the future of Terminator 2 before Terminator 3. A machine apocalypse still eventually happens in both movies, and they get defeated both times. Although it's implied the machines do eventually kill John Connor in the future of Terminator 2

As long as you stick to this explanation and don't worry about the details, you'll enjoy the Terminator movies.
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ChromaticAngel posted...

Basically every time somebody goes back in time, it creates a new fork in the future. The machines lose in all of them to John Connor.

Now most of the movies take place is a steadily advancing fork, so you don't get to see, for example, what happens in the future of Terminator 1 before Terminator 2 happens, and you don't get to see what happens in the future of Terminator 2 before Terminator 3. A machine apocalypse still eventually happens in both movies, and they get defeated both times. Although it's implied the machines do eventually kill John Connor in the future of Terminator 2

The TV show goes more in depth with how the timelines work but this is the basics.
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