Current Events > When am I supposed to start hating Dark Souls II?

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NibeIungsnarf posted...

Yay, Blighttown! I saw a god damn bonfire right in front of me and then the floor boards I'm walking across break so I can't find my way back to it because I can't light my torch before reaching the bonfire. And I spend all my estus to restore the fall damage from getting down here X_X X_X X_X

At least the frame rate is stable.

You probably have an item that will light a torch.
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Any way to atone for your sins like in DkS1 so you can make hostile npcs non-hostile?

Finally found a non-humanoid boss and its the worst thing of all time (Royal Rat Vanguard)

How do NPC invasions (and invasions in general) work in Dark Souls 2? In DkS1 you had to become human to get invaded, but from what I can tell in DkS2 becoming human disencourages invasions?

NibeIungsnarf posted...

How do NPC invasions (and invasions in general) work in Dark Souls 2? In DkS1 you had to become human to get invaded, but from what I can tell in DkS2 becoming human disencourages invasions?

It's tied to the local bonfires/boss. When you defeat the boss or burn a specific item at the fire you get 20(?) minutes of no invasions. When you rest you can see the timer counting down.
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The Rotten is pretty gross.

So I killed the Rotten and got transported to Shulva, Sanctum City. I only have 2 great souls and this has the feel of a somewhat end-game or at least late-game area. Should I turn back and go other routes or continue down this one?

Hurrah for dragons!

NibeIungsnarf posted...

So I killed the Rotten and got transported to Shulva, Sanctum City. I only have 2 great souls and this has the feel of a somewhat end-game or at least late-game area. Should I turn back and go other routes or continue down this one?

Hurrah for dragons!

Thats a DLC area, so go the other routes
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Invisible people are backstabbing me to death in Shaded Wood :(

NibeIungsnarf posted...

Invisible people are backstabbing me to death in Shaded Wood :(

i just sprinted the fuck out of there, fuck that area

dark souls 2 has the most creative and varied areas but they're really hit or miss

loved that game
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Broke a ring and it costs 9k souls to repair.

Wtf >.>

rings need to be repaired? I forgot about that.

there's a cool ring in the woods, though, where if you get hit enough, it causes little explosions that hurt your enemies.

really helped out with bosses and invasions.
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Defeated knock-off Quelaag in one try!

And that's my first mimic >_>

This royal rat authority fight is bullshit.

The dogs in the capra fight were a cheap way to add difficulty and it sucked, but at least I could hit them with whatever weapon I was using.

which one is that again?

because there are two rat boss fights, and they both suck ass.
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The one with the big wolf model that the game is pretending is a rat.

Already did the other one, and yes, it sucked.

oh yea, I hated that one especially.

at least the bonfire was really close by.
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NibeIungsnarf posted...

This royal rat authority fight is bullshit.

i think it was my least favorite fight in the game, just in terms of fun. thankfully it was stupidly easy, but there was nothing fun or engaging about it. dark souls 3 has a better version of this fight (deacons of the deep), but that's still a stupid fight
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Defeated the spider boss. No more siders forever and ever and ever.

I liked the concept that the soul I got from it was actually from the dragon carcass it had been feasting on for probably hundreds of years. Don't really get the head thing, though. Spiders are scary enough already. >_>

Vengarl's set is amazing.

also to answer the question, you'll start to hate the game when you get to Shrine of Amana, one of my least favorite levels ive ever played in a video game
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Having to teleport to level up is stupid
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Yeah I don't really hate it yet. I have some issues with the design choices like I've mentioned before and a lot of the bosses, are just... kind of bad. And there's way too many of them.

Still liking it, though.

lilORANG posted...

Having to teleport to level up is stupid

Yeah, it's stupid. It worked in Demon's Souls cause it was designed so that you complete a level to the boss and then return to the Nexus.

In the context of this game it is just annoying to have to constantly port back to Majula.

lilORANG posted...

Having to teleport to level up is stupid

Dark Souls 3 does the same thing.

Did Dark Souls 1? I forget.
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Touch posted...

lilORANG posted...

Having to teleport to level up is stupid

Dark Souls 3 does the same thing.

Did Dark Souls 1? I forget.

No, in DkS1 you could level up at any bonfire.

yea, that's unique to Dark Souls.

in: Demon's Souls, Dark Souls 2, Bloodborne, and Dark Souls 3, you have to go back to the hub world to level up
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The Deadpool posted...

FluttershyPony posted...

The lake with those 1000000 range homing projectile BS mages. Also the area with the spiders aren't so fun either.

They nerfed the crap out of the Shrine of Amana after all the babies cried about it being too hard.

The biggest problem with DS2 is old DS1 players who didn't want to adjust to a new game.

They nerfed Shrine of Amana? What? I played at release and had no trouble with the section. Thought it was quite good tbh
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Executioner's Chariot is another boss using the "can't design a proper fight? Throw a bunch of shit at you to wear down your defenses and keep your eyes off the big guy" boss philosophy.

It's basically designed like Nito, but without the option to limit the skeletons to a few by limiting your own movement range and in return the boss itself is just boring. I did like the first part of the fight, though. Very God of War-ish. But at the very least. At the very least in the second phase the skellies should have permadeath and in return the boss should be less lame.

Overall I just don't think the Souls combat system (and camera) is too shabby with multiple enemies and for some reason DkS2 doesn't realize/care. Something like O&S was superbly designed to make up for these issues, but that same care is not taken in the sequel.

Edit: Oh, and ranged sorcerers/skeleton archers in this fight are absolute bullshit

Edit2: Oh apparently the sorcerers are necromancers keeping the skellies alive. Fair enough. Sort of. But that doesn't change much. If you get at them the boss is rendered impotent and boring. The skeletons are there to disguise poor design.

Is there anything at Harvest Valley or is it just a pass-over area on the way to Earthen Peak? I explored a little, found a shopkeep or two, some items, but not anything insinuating alternative paths (aside from the two entryways to Earthen Peak) or bosses and I got very confused going through.

just as an FYI, the executioner's chariot boss battle is optional
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Naw its just a passthrough to Earthen Peak

Also the sunbro covenant statue is there
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Romulox28 posted...

just as an FYI, the executioner's chariot boss battle is optional

I figured.

Afterwards, of course.

I accidentally got myself into a duel by examining one of the statues there.

Needless to say, I got whipped good.


Touch posted...

Also the sunbro covenant statue is there

Did not find that on my way through. Do you need 25 faith to join like in DkS1?

Thekiller37 posted...

The Deadpool posted...

FluttershyPony posted...

The lake with those 1000000 range homing projectile BS mages. Also the area with the spiders aren't so fun either.

They nerfed the crap out of the Shrine of Amana after all the babies cried about it being too hard.

The biggest problem with DS2 is old DS1 players who didn't want to adjust to a new game.

They nerfed Shrine of Amana? What? I played at release and had no trouble with the section. Thought it was quite good tbh

they made the homing missiles easier to dodge. IMO the shrine is one of the least fun areas ive ever played in a video game. its like the devs sat around and tried to make the most unpleasant level possible.
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After you cross the bridge right before you enter the cave areas to Earthen Peak theres a little path on the left that leads to another cave area. Thats where the sunbros are
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Romulox28 posted...

its like the devs sat around and tried to make the most unpleasant level possible.

It really was shite. It looks awesome though, and the boss is funny.
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I heard there were some geography inconsistencies in the game, but holy hell @ Earthen Peak -> Bowser's Castle.

Smelter Demon was a lot of fun. Mytha and Iron King were boring, though. Mytha might be the least interesting boss in the game so far.

Got all four great souls now and I kind of expected the Emerald Herald to at least give me a hint as to where to go next, but nope! ._.

Gonna try to figure it out, though, so don't say.


When is the best time to do the DLCs? I've found two of them, but not the third.

Wasn't there a stone statue blocking a fog door in Things Betwixt tutorial area when I first went through there. Can't find it now.

NibeIungsnarf posted...

Wasn't there a stone statue blocking a fog door in Things Betwixt tutorial area when I first went through there. Can't find it now.

Yeah but it doesnt really lead to anything. Good room for farming infusion gems tho

But I will give you a hint. You're close when you're talking about a stone statue.
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Did... did I collect 4 Great Souls just because I couldn't step over a few broken columns?

NibeIungsnarf posted...

Did... did I collect 4 Great Souls just because I couldn't step over a few broken columns?

Naw theres an actual door that you need the souls for.
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As an expert on all things Souls, I can safely say that you're better off using the disk of Shit Souls 2 as a frisbee.
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dark souls 2 is my favorite in the series by virtue of the PVP being the best in the series. every weapon is viable.
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Pancake posted...

dark souls 2 is my favorite in the series by virtue of the PVP being the best in the series. every weapon is viable.

Lmao!
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Reached Shrine of Amana, guess I'm supposed to start hating now >_>

Also before the dragonriders of Pern in Drangleic castle, there clearly is a woman sitting on a throne, but I couldn't get across to her. Is this supposed to be true or should I head back and find a way towards her?


I haven't used any of my boss souls, are there any particularly good things to do with them for someone who is mainly melee but dabbles in pyromancy?


Would now be a good time to start doing some DLC?

Also, what are some good uses of fragrant branches? I have I think 4 but haven't had anything to use them on in a while. There were quite a few statues in shaded woods. At least one of which guarded a chest.

NibeIungsnarf posted...

Also before the dragonriders of Pern in Drangleic castle, there clearly is a woman sitting on a throne, but I couldn't get across to her. Is this supposed to be true or should I head back and find a way towards her?

She shows up later at a lower level of the castle, iirc. She wasn't too happy with me, so I had to lay the smack down.

I haven't used any of my boss souls, are there any particularly good things to do with them for someone who is mainly melee but dabbles in pyromancy?

I only used two or three of the boss souls, and always to upgrade my weapons to the elite ones. My only suggestion is to really think about which upgrade you want because you don't want to waste it on a weapon you end up not really using.
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I died a lot in the beginning and then got used to it, I never even think about the number of enemies, I just killed what was in front of me regardless of numbers and went on my way, dunno why people complain so much about it.
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Holy shit that tracking on those magic missiles.

Fuck you, Dark Souls 2.

WHY CAN THESE FUCKING HALBERD KNIGHTS MOVE THROUGH THE WATER UNHINDERED!?!

(caps)

Literally haven't made it past those undead sickle wielders at the start of the undead crypt after like 30 minutes of trying.

Manages to kill them all one time, but then a magic guy took their place and OHKO'd me >_>