Current Events > Do women even really like sex with men.

(+) Yeah! (+)

Nah.
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You could argue that they enjoy it more than men do.
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Sayoria posted...

LittleRoyal posted...

To me it sounds like you just need a deep friend. My bestie I don't see every day but we love talking or cuddling or watching movies and etc but are t attracted to each other. Really feeds the enotoonsl hunger and the feeling of needing someone similar to you.

Trust me, I want that too.

psvitantifail posted...

LordMarshal posted...

What a special snowflake.

The specialiest of them all!

Lololololololol
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Sure, but sometimes I wish it would last longer. And I also wish guys didn't have such big issues with looks or body hair or clothes 'cause that's too much work for a dumpy girl like me :/
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SableWolfAngel posted...

Sure, but sometimes I wish it would last longer. And I also wish guys didn't have such big issues with looks or body hair or clothes 'cause that's too much work for a dumpy girl like me :/

You're sexy as hell Sable :P
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DrizztLink posted...

ShinigamiSoul posted...

DrizztLink posted...

A dick's easy. Apply friction, success.

Great quote, lol.

I recommend reading it in the Smash Bros. announcer voice.

I did, and even added the applause afterwards.

Good stuff.
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LittleRoyal posted...

To me it sounds like you just need a deep friend. My bestie I don't see every day but we love talking or cuddling or watching movies and etc but are t attracted to each other. Really feeds the enotoonsl hunger and the feeling of needing someone similar to you.

I know I do.

DreadedWave posted...

SableWolfAngel posted...

Sure, but sometimes I wish it would last longer. And I also wish guys didn't have such big issues with looks or body hair or clothes 'cause that's too much work for a dumpy girl like me :/

You're sexy as hell Sable :P

Not to me I'm not! I'm sure of I wore makeup and jewelry and fashionable clothes then guys would flirt with me, but they never do.
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Albel-Nox posted...

LittleRoyal posted...

To me it sounds like you just need a deep friend. My bestie I don't see every day but we love talking or cuddling or watching movies and etc but are t attracted to each other. Really feeds the enotoonsl hunger and the feeling of needing someone similar to you.

??? XD?
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I always have a,lesbian fantasy
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SableWolfAngel posted...

DreadedWave posted...

SableWolfAngel posted...

Sure, but sometimes I wish it would last longer. And I also wish guys didn't have such big issues with looks or body hair or clothes 'cause that's too much work for a dumpy girl like me :/

You're sexy as hell Sable :P

Not to me I'm not! I'm sure of I wore makeup and jewelry and fashionable clothes then guys would flirt with me, but they never do.

Men don't respect the natural beauty of a woman. I remember this one picture I saw....



You are still beautiful either way Sabie.
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Sayoria posted...

SableWolfAngel posted...

DreadedWave posted...

SableWolfAngel posted...

Sure, but sometimes I wish it would last longer. And I also wish guys didn't have such big issues with looks or body hair or clothes 'cause that's too much work for a dumpy girl like me :/

You're sexy as hell Sable :P

Not to me I'm not! I'm sure of I wore makeup and jewelry and fashionable clothes then guys would flirt with me, but they never do.

Men don't respect the natural beauty of a woman. I remember this one picture I saw....



You are still beautiful either way Sabie.

That picture is so funny!!
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Honestly I bet the 1 in 3 women who can't orgasm probably line up perfectly with this category.
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I was taught that the only women who actually enjoy that sort of thing are loose. A proper woman just does it begrudgingly as part of her marital duty, through a hole cut in the bed sheet.
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I don't know. I'm not a woman. If you enjoy sex with men, it's not hard to imagine a woman might enjoy it for the same reasons. Besides, there's nuance. Not everyone is going to enjoy sex will all men. Maybe it's not one's being a man that's the problem. Maybe it's that man in particular.
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Albel-Nox posted...

joe40001 posted...

I'm still not fully convinced.

That picture does make a good point. :v Very few women look good with no make up at all on. What guys think is their natural face is actually just natural makeup.

I know a girl who sometimes comes to work with no makeup at all on and it isn't pretty. She looks like she just got out of the ER or something.
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Women like sex when a man is conscious of their pleasure. Don't be selfish and she'll probably like it. Also, don't get down on yourself because your dick can't do it all. Go down on her and do what your dick can't do.
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OpheliaAdenade posted...

I was taught that the only women who actually enjoy that sort of thing are loose. A proper woman just does it begrudgingly as part of her marital duty, through a hole cut in the bed sheet.

That last part is a hilarious visual!! Hahaha!!!
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I don't get it. How is it that men get by in life just fine without ever needing to apply makeup, but when a woman suddenly forgets to apply it, she looks sickly, zombie-esque, homely.

Given women typically have softer features, shouldn't they look naturally beautiful and feminine without the use of makeup?
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The makeup thing... typically that happens with people they know or interact with daily. MAYBE if y'all didn't wear toms of makeup every single day, people would be more used to your natural look, and wouldn't have any comments or really notice at all. That, and it's usually other women making those comments.

I'm a dude who has never worn makeup in my life, and I'd like to think if I just randomly started wearing heavy makeup one day, most of my friends would go "What the hell is wrong with your face?"

Also, yes women enjoy sex even more than men. They're just super selective about their partners... unless their drunk. They tend to lose all standards at that point.
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Volkswagen_Bros posted...

I don't get it. How is it that men get by in life just fine without ever needing to apply makeup, but when a woman suddenly forgets to apply it, she looks sickly, zombie-esque, homely. Given women typically have softer features, shouldn't they look naturally beautiful and feminine without the use of makeup?

Because woman and guy skin really isn't all that different biologically, but as a culture we expect this softness and perfection from a woman's complexion. :u I mean, I know that "social construct" stuff gets laughed at, but seriously, from early childhood girls are exposed to all sorts of media that depict women looking a certain way. How often do we see a woman without makeup on TV or in advertisements? Next to never.

Expectations of guy faces are just way lower. If you're well groomed and not completely broken out with acne you're fine 99 percent of the time.

I spend at least 20 minutes on my face every morning. :u Just to look natural!

Here's the cliffnotes version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_xgxFEj9aw
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OpheliaAdenade posted...

Expectations of guy faces are just way lower. If you're well groomed and not completely broken out with acne you're fine 99 percent of the time.

This is crap. Guys face just as many expectations as women. The difference is women have things at their disposal that can cover up any slights or issues. Any guy who is/has: short, balding, weak jawline, narrow shoulders, small hands, small feet, quiet/shy personality, slightly crooked teeth, ANY combination of those things.... those guys are automatically dismissed by 90% of women. And there's NOTHING these guys can do about those things. Meanwhile a dumpy looking woman can put on some good makeup, a padded bra and some high heels, and pretty much any guy will want her.
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lilJoe457 posted...

If men had no refractory period they'd be jerking off all day.

It hurts my soul how accurate this is
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SableWolfAngel posted...

DreadedWave posted...

SableWolfAngel posted...

Sure, but sometimes I wish it would last longer. And I also wish guys didn't have such big issues with looks or body hair or clothes 'cause that's too much work for a dumpy girl like me :/

You're sexy as hell Sable :P

Not to me I'm not! I'm sure of I wore makeup and jewelry and fashionable clothes then guys would flirt with me, but they never do.

you could try doing the work and initiate.
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They sure do.
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NOM posted...

OpheliaAdenade posted...

Expectations of guy faces are just way lower. If you're well groomed and not completely broken out with acne you're fine 99 percent of the time.

This is crap. Guys face just as many expectations as women. The difference is women have things at their disposal that can cover up any slights or issues. Any guy who is/has: short, balding, weak jawline, narrow shoulders, small hands, small feet, quiet/shy personality, slightly crooked teeth, ANY combination of those things.... those guys are automatically dismissed by 90% of women. And there's NOTHING these guys can do about those things. Meanwhile a dumpy looking woman can put on some good makeup, a padded bra and some high heels, and pretty much any guy will want her.

:u I meant expectations about the face specifically. Like, no one cares how full a guy's eyebrows are. Or if their cheeks have color. Or how highlighted their eyes are. Or if their top lip is as big as their bottom lip.

Girls have this huge checklist when it comes to their face. Guys have like two things to worry about.
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WizardPowers posted...

SableWolfAngel posted...

DreadedWave posted...

SableWolfAngel posted...

Sure, but sometimes I wish it would last longer. And I also wish guys didn't have such big issues with looks or body hair or clothes 'cause that's too much work for a dumpy girl like me :/

You're sexy as hell Sable :P

Not to me I'm not! I'm sure of I wore makeup and jewelry and fashionable clothes then guys would flirt with me, but they never do.

you could try doing the work and initiate.

That's true, but I'm afraid I don't have the disposable income for things like makeup and jewelry and the like. I try to work with what I have.
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OpheliaAdenade posted...

NOM posted...

OpheliaAdenade posted...

Expectations of guy faces are just way lower. If you're well groomed and not completely broken out with acne you're fine 99 percent of the time.

This is crap. Guys face just as many expectations as women. The difference is women have things at their disposal that can cover up any slights or issues. Any guy who is/has: short, balding, weak jawline, narrow shoulders, small hands, small feet, quiet/shy personality, slightly crooked teeth, ANY combination of those things.... those guys are automatically dismissed by 90% of women. And there's NOTHING these guys can do about those things. Meanwhile a dumpy looking woman can put on some good makeup, a padded bra and some high heels, and pretty much any guy will want her.

:u I meant expectations about the face specifically. Like, no one cares how full a guy's eyebrows are. Or if their cheeks have color. Or how highlighted their eyes are. Or if their top lip is as big as their bottom lip.

Girls have this huge checklist when it comes to their face. Guys have like two things to worry about.

I apologize, I am a bitter virgin who has a grudge against women, but I still think my points are valid. I just get upset when most women say guys have it easy or they have no idea how hard it is. But you're absolutely right when it comes to the face itself, guys have it easier. Although I still say if women didn't wear tons of makeup every single day, this wouldn't be much of an issue.

SableWolfAngel posted...

That's true, but I'm afraid I don't have the disposable income for things like makeup and jewelry and the like. I try to work with what I have.

What he means by "put in the work" is initiate the flirting yourself.
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given the fact that my gf moans way louder than me during the big O(twice last night), i'm inclined to say hell yes.

makes me fucking jealous really..
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AsucaHayashi posted...

given the fact that my gf moans way louder than me during the big O(twice last night), i'm inclined to say hell yes.

makes me fucking jealous really..

She's acting.
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NOM posted...

OpheliaAdenade posted...
SableWolfAngel posted...

That's true, but I'm afraid I don't have the disposable income for things like makeup and jewelry and the like. I try to work with what I have.

What he means by "put in the work" is initiate the flirting yourself.

I do that sometimes, but I'm afraid a guy will think that's weird.
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Asherlee10 posted...

thanosibe posted...

Women like sex when a man is conscious of their pleasure. Don't be selfish and she'll probably like it. Also, don't get down on yourself because your dick can't do it all. Go down on her and do what your dick can't do.

Accurate.

Many of my female friends complain that their husbands/boyfriends just don't spend the time to pleasure them during sex. There's a little foreplay, then just straight up intercourse and that's it. Many women cannot climax from intercourse alone.

And it's reciprocal. The more I get my wife off before intercourse, the better it is for me too. There's nothing like hearing she's had enough and she's ready for me. I mean, I don't get compliments in life like that, so I'll take em in the bedroom. :-)

Edit: Also so add. I don't know about other women, but my wife, when brought to climax orally or other means before, she then can climax during intercourse sometimes. And that feeling? Fuuuuuuuu .....
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tremain07 posted...

Yes, they do, women have stronger orgasms than men and shorter,next to zero refectory periods, there's even theories that if a man were to experience the pleasure a woman receives through sex it'd fry our brains while if a woman felt what a man feels through orgasm it'd barely register.

That's the stupidest bullshit I've heard. Who dreamed that up?

DoctorPiranha3 posted...

tremain07 posted...

Yes, they do, women have stronger orgasms than men and shorter,next to zero refectory periods, there's even theories that if a man were to experience the pleasure a woman receives through sex it'd fry our brains while if a woman felt what a man feels through orgasm it'd barely register.

That's the stupidest bullshit I've heard. Who dreamed that up?

Yeah that's definitely an exaggeration.

They do have longer and stronger orgasms but it's not THAT much better. And if a man were to experience a female orgasm it wouldn't "fry his brain", it would feel like how a woman feels an orgasm. Use common sense.
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weapon_d00d816 posted...

DoctorPiranha3 posted...

tremain07 posted...

Yes, they do, women have stronger orgasms than men and shorter,next to zero refectory periods, there's even theories that if a man were to experience the pleasure a woman receives through sex it'd fry our brains while if a woman felt what a man feels through orgasm it'd barely register.

That's the stupidest bullshit I've heard. Who dreamed that up?

Yeah that's definitely an exaggeration.

They do have longer and stronger orgasms but it's not THAT much better. And if a man were to experience a female orgasm it wouldn't "fry his brain", it would feel like how a woman feels an orgasm. Use common sense.

Tbh the first time my wife gave me an orgasm, not just me ejaculating, I thought I was gonna pass our die. I didn't know wtf was going on, cause I had never had one before. :-/
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OpheliaAdenade posted...

Because woman and guy skin really isn't all that different biologically, but as a culture we expect this softness and perfection from a woman's complexion. :u I mean, I know that "social construct" stuff gets laughed at, but seriously, from early childhood girls are exposed to all sorts of media that depict women looking a certain way. How often do we see a woman without makeup on TV or in advertisements? Next to never.

Expectations of guy faces are just way lower. If you're well groomed and not completely broken out with acne you're fine 99 percent of the time.

So you're saying we're so used to seeing women in makeup, we still haven't been desensitized to the sight of a woman without it. I like women, but I still don't understand why we should be entitled to having them look pretty for us. It's a dumb societal rule.

I'd hate to have to wake up every morning, spend time in the restroom applying makeup simply because it is expected of us to look pretty. Screw that. I wish more woman would go natural and not be shunned because of it, or more men willing to use makeup for aesthetic purposes and not be shunned for it either.
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Volkswagen_Bros posted...

OpheliaAdenade posted...

Because woman and guy skin really isn't all that different biologically, but as a culture we expect this softness and perfection from a woman's complexion. :u I mean, I know that "social construct" stuff gets laughed at, but seriously, from early childhood girls are exposed to all sorts of media that depict women looking a certain way. How often do we see a woman without makeup on TV or in advertisements? Next to never.

Expectations of guy faces are just way lower. If you're well groomed and not completely broken out with acne you're fine 99 percent of the time.

So you're saying we're so used to seeing women in makeup, we still haven't been desensitized to the sight of a woman without it. I like women, but I still don't understand why we should be entitled to having them look pretty for us. It's a dumb societal rule.

I'd hate to have to wake up every morning, spend time in the restroom applying makeup simply because it is expected of us to look pretty. Screw that. I wish more woman would go natural and not be shunned because of it, or more men willing to use makeup for aesthetic purposes and not be shunned for it either.

Well, most women like looking pretty, so they don't mind it. :v Though I would rather sleep in some days...
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Volkswagen_Bros posted...

So you're saying we're so used to seeing women in makeup, we still haven't been desensitized to the sight of a woman without it.

This is basically true

Although I think there's some confirmation bias going on with this, because you just don't notice a woman who doesn't look all that different without makeup or who doesn't wear it sometimes but doesn't look notably haggard. Like if some picture online gets passed around showing how different women look with and without makeup, it's obviously going to be a woman who looks radically different. A lot of times, a woman who would look fine without makeup ends up looking weird without it to people who know her solely because they're so used to seeing her with it, and if it were the other way around she'd look just as weird with it.

Plus internet standards. Online everyone judges any picture of a person by the harshest criteria they can, but in real life we're not nearly the same fussy bastards.
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Some do, some don't. I do.
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thanosibe posted...

weapon_d00d816 posted...

DoctorPiranha3 posted...

tremain07 posted...

Yes, they do, women have stronger orgasms than men and shorter,next to zero refectory periods, there's even theories that if a man were to experience the pleasure a woman receives through sex it'd fry our brains while if a woman felt what a man feels through orgasm it'd barely register.

That's the stupidest bullshit I've heard. Who dreamed that up?

Yeah that's definitely an exaggeration.

They do have longer and stronger orgasms but it's not THAT much better. And if a man were to experience a female orgasm it wouldn't "fry his brain", it would feel like how a woman feels an orgasm. Use common sense.

Tbh the first time my wife gave me an orgasm, not just me ejaculating, I thought I was gonna pass our die. I didn't know wtf was going on, cause I had never had one before. :-/

...what?

Are you saying your whole life you've been ejaculating without orgasm?
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weapon_d00d816 posted...

thanosibe posted...

weapon_d00d816 posted...

DoctorPiranha3 posted...

tremain07 posted...

Yes, they do, women have stronger orgasms than men and shorter,next to zero refectory periods, there's even theories that if a man were to experience the pleasure a woman receives through sex it'd fry our brains while if a woman felt what a man feels through orgasm it'd barely register.

That's the stupidest bullshit I've heard. Who dreamed that up?

Yeah that's definitely an exaggeration.

They do have longer and stronger orgasms but it's not THAT much better. And if a man were to experience a female orgasm it wouldn't "fry his brain", it would feel like how a woman feels an orgasm. Use common sense.

Tbh the first time my wife gave me an orgasm, not just me ejaculating, I thought I was gonna pass our die. I didn't know wtf was going on, cause I had never had one before. :-/

...what?

Are you saying your whole life you've been ejaculating without orgasm?

Well I was a virgin up until marriage so I can only go off sex with my wife. But the first time I had this uncontrollable reaction to intercourse, I assumed was an orgasm. Because I hadn't had one before hand that felt like that.
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SableWolfAngel posted...

I do that sometimes, but I'm afraid a guy will think that's weird.

this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard

unless you look like Quasimodo or something
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WizardPowers posted...

SableWolfAngel posted...

I do that sometimes, but I'm afraid a guy will think that's weird.

this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard

unless you look like Quasimodo or something

Don't be so mean. There are plenty of guys out there that think flirty girls are slutty or too forward. Not everyone is like that, but I'm sure at least SOME guys are like that. You'd be surprised how many times I get snubbed when flirting with a guy.
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SableWolfAngel posted...

There are plenty of guys out there that think flirty girls are slutty or too forward.

Man, FUCK society and it's "norms". Women want equal rights, to be on even footing with men in all areas, and yet in the dating game, that's when they want to fall back on traditional values?

You get snubbed because they don't like you. Simple. You don't like every guy, not every guy likes you.

SableWolfAngel posted...

Don't be so mean. There are plenty of guys out there that think flirty girls are slutty or too forward. Not everyone is like that, but I'm sure at least SOME guys are like that. You'd be surprised how many times I get snubbed when flirting with a guy.

I think I can safely speak for my half the population and say the % of men that would be actively weirded out by a girl flirting with them is probably less than 5%. And that's probably just because they're super awkward themselves and have never been in that situation

and getting snubbed just means they're not into you OR more likely they're just oblivious. It doesn't mean they were weirded out

The only way I can see a guy calling a girl slutty for flirting with them is if she's like super desperately throwing herself at him in a clingy, crazy kinda way.
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SableWolfAngel posted...

Don't be so mean. There are plenty of guys out there that think flirty girls are slutty or too forward. Not everyone is like that, but I'm sure at least SOME guys are like that. You'd be surprised how many times I get snubbed when flirting with a guy.

So fucking what?
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SableWolfAngel posted...

WizardPowers posted...

SableWolfAngel posted...

I do that sometimes, but I'm afraid a guy will think that's weird.

this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard

unless you look like Quasimodo or something

Don't be so mean. There are plenty of guys out there that think flirty girls are slutty or too forward. Not everyone is like that, but I'm sure at least SOME guys are like that. You'd be surprised how many times I get snubbed when flirting with a guy.

From talking to both girls and guys this is something that a ton of women believe but very few men actually have any issue with girls being the ones to approach them, and in fact guys are more likely to appreciate it simply because of how relatively uncommon it is. You getting snubbed doesn't mean guys don't like a girl flirting with them, just that that specific guy wasn't into you that specific time.
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