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Sayoria
08/08/17 6:01:59 PM
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Recently, Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced that he would like to reinvigorate D.A.R.E., a move that was met with considerable skepticism in the media.

“Just say no”

The origins of “Just say no” are by now apocryphal, with potential attributions to a California elementary school student during a school drop-in from the first lady or a New York City advertising executive. The command, however, is carved deeply into the foundation of over 30 years of U.S. drug prevention policy.
The idea of just saying “no” to drugs emanates from a simplified view on “rational choice theory,” which contends that people choose their behaviors in order to maximize rewards and minimize costs. Very simply, D.A.R.E. was a program that rested on the premise of training kids how to say “no.”

New D.A.R.E. isn’t D.A.R.E.

You might be surprised to learn this, but the contemporary version of D.A.R.E. isn’t really D.A.R.E. at all — it’s a D.A.R.E. — branded adaptation of a highly successful, evidence-based substance use prevention program that rests on a body of scientific research documenting its effectiveness.

The program is called “Keepin’ It REAL” and was developed originally by prevention scientists at Penn State University. On its face, KIR looks like another “just say no” program: It relies on the acronym REAL, applied as “refuse,” “explain,” “avoid” and “leave.”

But while the theme of KIR rests on refusal and avoidance (i.e., just saying no), the curriculum addresses many of the issues that contribute to drug use in the first place, by teaching and working with youth on communication skills, self-regulation, cognitive problem-solving and emotion knowledge.

This approach to substance use prevention is in line with other, similar programs such as Life Skills Training (developed by Cornell University researchers) and Toward No Drug Abuse (from scientists at the University of Southern California). These sorts of substance use prevention programs have been proven to reduce the likelihood of substance use, but also the likelihood of problem behavior and violence — with the added benefit of improving positive behavior and interpersonal skills.

The new D.A.R.E.-branded KIR program hasn’t yet been subjected to formal evaluation: The biggest question is that we don’t yet know whether KIR can be delivered effectively by police officers. But KIR has passed muster through a variety of prior adaptations, and the track record of the Penn State research team for implementing effective programs is promising.

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Sayoria
08/08/17 6:02:04 PM
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The future of D.A.R.E.

When Sessions called for renewed, large-scale implementation of D.A.R.E., many in the media seem to have missed that he’s talking about the current configuration of the program — a new methodology that’s a more likely recipe for success than the infamously ineffective original D.A.R.E. What’s more, the D.A.R.E. folks have made it clear over the years that they will not be going back to the approach that was proven at best ineffective and at worst harmful. In fact, the biggest obstacle to D.A.R.E.‘s efficacy may be the D.A.R.E. brand itself, which has clearly been tarnished after decades of research criticizing the program.

If they can overcome that obstacle, the D.A.R.E. delivery system is optimal for large-scale substance abuse prevention. Schools are great venues for the delivery of health promotion programming, and police officers can convey the seriousness of the topic.

Fortunately, there have been notable declines in underage tobacco and alcohol use in the last several years. However, with opioid abuse on the rise and students still engaging in relatively high rates of other illicit drug use, there is good cause for a new commitment to D.A.R.E.


http://www.salon.com/2017/07/30/the-d-a-r-e-sessions-wants-is-better-than-d-a-r-e_partner/
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metralo
08/08/17 6:03:17 PM
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nice can't wait for it to cause more kids to get involved with drugs just like dare did
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Axiom
08/08/17 6:03:24 PM
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What a waste resources
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Kaname_Madoka
08/08/17 6:04:45 PM
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no one gets pressured to do drugs say

ive been offered before

you just say no

no ones going to be like "HEY YOU BETTER USE MY EXPENSIVE ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES"
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Sayoria
08/08/17 6:05:49 PM
#6:


Kaname_Madoka posted...
no one gets pressured to do drugs say

ive been offered before

you just say no

no ones going to be like "HEY YOU BETTER USE MY EXPENSIVE ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES"


After you say no, they say "What are you, a chicken!"

Then the kid will say "No" and smoke it just to show their friends they are cool.
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YellowSUV
08/08/17 6:06:14 PM
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metralo posted...
nice can't wait for it to cause more kids to get involved with drugs just like dare did

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--kresnik--
08/08/17 6:06:22 PM
#8:


Dare should basically be a cop listing off the punishments you will get for various crimes.
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YookaLaylee
08/08/17 6:06:30 PM
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I remember one day in high school a random kid I didn't know came up to me and asked if I wanted to buy weed. I said no and then he nodded and walked away. True story.
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Kaname_Madoka
08/08/17 6:06:54 PM
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Sayoria posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
no one gets pressured to do drugs say

ive been offered before

you just say no

no ones going to be like "HEY YOU BETTER USE MY EXPENSIVE ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES"


After you say no, they say "What are you, a chicken!"

Then the kid will say "No" and smoke it just to show their friends they are cool.

say im a kid and ur not

who has da experience here

also if getting called a chicken makes you do stuff you dont want to, you need to rethink your life
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DarthAragorn
08/08/17 6:07:49 PM
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If they actually improve on it then I don't see a problem with it
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glitteringfairy
08/08/17 6:08:37 PM
#12:


Sayoria posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
no one gets pressured to do drugs say

ive been offered before

you just say no

no ones going to be like "HEY YOU BETTER USE MY EXPENSIVE ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES"


After you say no, they say "What are you, a chicken!"

Then the kid will say "No" and smoke it just to show their friends they are cool.

I smoke weed and drink. My friends do and do other things. They've been trying to get me to do acid with them for 11 years now and I've always said no. It's not hard.
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Sayoria
08/08/17 6:08:51 PM
#13:


DarthAragorn posted...
If they actually improve on it then I don't see a problem with it


This is the man behind it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsDyc38MstQ

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Zeeak4444
08/08/17 6:16:42 PM
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Sayoria posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
no one gets pressured to do drugs say

ive been offered before

you just say no

no ones going to be like "HEY YOU BETTER USE MY EXPENSIVE ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES"


After you say no, they say "What are you, a chicken!"

Then the kid will say "No" and smoke it just to show their friends they are cool.


This is a myth.

I've never met a drug user who got introduced in any way close to this and secondly like he already mentioned people vary rarely say "HEY TAKE MY DRUGS FOR FREE CHICKEN".

These programs don't work because they prepare you for a situation that never occurs while ignoring all the ones that are common situations/reasons one does drugs for the first time.
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1234Life
08/08/17 6:19:25 PM
#15:


Sayoria posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
no one gets pressured to do drugs say

ive been offered before

you just say no

no ones going to be like "HEY YOU BETTER USE MY EXPENSIVE ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES"


After you say no, they say "What are you, a chicken!"

Then the kid will say "No" and smoke it just to show their friends they are cool.


And that's when you comeback with "I'm not a chicken. You're a turkey!" and watch the drug dealer run off all embarrassed.
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Shotgunnova
08/08/17 6:22:04 PM
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For a second, I thought the topic was going to be about a Double Dare reboot.
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Sayoria
08/08/17 6:22:25 PM
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You all will see. When we get this new DARE program rolling, the marijuana business will die.
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Axiom
08/08/17 6:23:00 PM
#18:


1234Life posted...
Sayoria posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
no one gets pressured to do drugs say

ive been offered before

you just say no

no ones going to be like "HEY YOU BETTER USE MY EXPENSIVE ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES"


After you say no, they say "What are you, a chicken!"

Then the kid will say "No" and smoke it just to show their friends they are cool.


And that's when you comeback with "I'm not a chicken. You're a turkey!" and watch the drug dealer run off all embarrassed.

....I lol'd
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Kaname_Madoka
08/08/17 6:23:55 PM
#19:


Sayoria posted...
You all will see. When we get this new DARE program rolling, the marijuana business will die.

ok say
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AngelsNAirwav3s
08/08/17 6:24:42 PM
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I mean the campaign to convince kids that cigarettes were not cool and gross worked out extremely well
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Paper_Okami
08/08/17 6:25:59 PM
#21:


Sayoria posted...
You all will see. When we get this new DARE program rolling, the marijuana business will die.


In the GOAT state of MA.

All adults 21 and over can now grow up to 6 MJ plants in their household.

Very helpful for my sister in law who has Crohn's. So she won't need to keep driving to a MM facility to deal with severe pain that has sometimes stopped her from working for months at a time.
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Zeeak4444
08/08/17 6:46:57 PM
#22:


Sayoria posted...
You all will see. When we get this new DARE program rolling, the marijuana business will die.


Why not approach it from a way that might actually do some good?

Why double down on something that has not only been proven to not work but also makes no sense to anyone who's actually been around drugs?

You're hurting your own cause here.
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HylianFox
08/08/17 6:53:18 PM
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"Keepin' it REAL", seriously?
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Nomadic View
08/08/17 6:54:58 PM
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Yeah, people kinda are forced.

You need to hit this, you making us nervous. People gonna think you working with the po po.
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wolverinev2
08/08/17 6:55:23 PM
#25:


I remember all the old ads that acted like Drug dealers were just around the corner ready to give kids drugs.

Did not happen in my life. The most was a dude brought weed to class one day and that was in High School. I just loved how those videos made it like dealers didn't want to turn a profit.
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HylianFox
08/08/17 6:56:54 PM
#26:


wolverinev2 posted...
I remember all the old ads that acted like Drug dealers were just around the corner ready to give kids drugs.

Really, it's bad as the "man with candy" stereotype when it comes to pedos. Does that ever really happen?
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Nomadic View
08/08/17 6:57:24 PM
#27:


Most of the time someone is offered drugs it's going to be by one of their friends while they're hanging out. It's almost unheard of for a stranger to give it out or offer it to random people.
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HylianFox
08/08/17 6:58:44 PM
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--kresnik-- posted...
Dare should basically be a cop listing off the punishments you will get for various crimes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3oWwnPrEbg

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wolverinev2
08/08/17 7:00:09 PM
#29:


HylianFox posted...
wolverinev2 posted...
I remember all the old ads that acted like Drug dealers were just around the corner ready to give kids drugs.

Really, it's bad as the "man with candy" stereotype when it comes to pedos. Does that ever really happen?


I'm sure kids have been kidnapped, just not to extent of "I have a puppy. Get in my van." stereotype. Back then they also didn't really understand how to actually educate kids on serious issues.

If you want to prevent kids from becoming drug addicts. Then explain to them the side affects of taking said drugs. Show them videos of crack addicts, meth heads, etc. All I remember DARE doing was some cop showing up and basically saying "Drugs are bad, just say no." and that was it.
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Sayoria
08/08/17 7:26:56 PM
#30:


Paper_Okami posted...
Sayoria posted...
You all will see. When we get this new DARE program rolling, the marijuana business will die.


In the GOAT state of MA.

All adults 21 and over can now grow up to 6 MJ plants in their household.

Very helpful for my sister in law who has Crohn's. So she won't need to keep driving to a MM facility to deal with severe pain that has sometimes stopped her from working for months at a time.


Sessions will crack down on it.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/08/
jeff_sessions_will_probably_crack_down_on_legal_marijuana_despite
_his_experts.html
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Kaname_Madoka
08/08/17 7:27:13 PM
#31:


Sayoria posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
Sayoria posted...
You all will see. When we get this new DARE program rolling, the marijuana business will die.


In the GOAT state of MA.

All adults 21 and over can now grow up to 6 MJ plants in their household.

Very helpful for my sister in law who has Crohn's. So she won't need to keep driving to a MM facility to deal with severe pain that has sometimes stopped her from working for months at a time.


Sessions will crack down on it.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/08/
jeff_sessions_will_probably_crack_down_on_legal_marijuana_despite
_his_experts.html

sick link
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voldothegr8
08/08/17 7:29:23 PM
#32:


Sayoria posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
Sayoria posted...
You all will see. When we get this new DARE program rolling, the marijuana business will die.


In the GOAT state of MA.

All adults 21 and over can now grow up to 6 MJ plants in their household.

Very helpful for my sister in law who has Crohn's. So she won't need to keep driving to a MM facility to deal with severe pain that has sometimes stopped her from working for months at a time.


Sessions will crack down on it.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/08/
jeff_sessions_will_probably_crack_down_on_legal_marijuana_despite
_his_experts.html

Let him, if he goes after legal states and fucks with that tax revenue then it becomes a campaign issue.
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Sayoria
08/08/17 7:29:40 PM
#33:


Kaname_Madoka posted...
Sayoria posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
Sayoria posted...
You all will see. When we get this new DARE program rolling, the marijuana business will die.


In the GOAT state of MA.

All adults 21 and over can now grow up to 6 MJ plants in their household.

Very helpful for my sister in law who has Crohn's. So she won't need to keep driving to a MM facility to deal with severe pain that has sometimes stopped her from working for months at a time.


Sessions will crack down on it.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/08/
jeff_sessions_will_probably_crack_down_on_legal_marijuana_despite
_his_experts.html

sick link


Gamefaqs doesn't allow for links over 80 characters. I'm not using something like tinyurl, so deal with it.
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hollow_shrine
08/08/17 7:30:25 PM
#34:


Ugh.

WTS bleach cobbler.
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BootyGif
08/08/17 7:32:33 PM
#35:


oh, Beauregard
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TomNook20
08/08/17 7:33:39 PM
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Antifar
08/08/17 7:35:00 PM
#37:


This is bad
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Sayoria
08/08/17 7:42:30 PM
#38:


Dear Governor Inslee and Attorney General Ferguson:
Thank you for your letters of February 15, 2017, April 3, 2017, and May 8, 2017, which I
have attached to this letter as Exhibits A, B, and C for your convenience. I was pleased to read
that you share my concern for public health and safety and my belief that the federal and state
governments should work together to address our country's concerns with marijuana. Congress
has determined that marijuana is a dangerous drug and that the illegal distribution and sale of
marijuana is a crime. The Department remains committed to enforcing the Controlled
Substances Act in a manner that efficiently applies our resources to address the most significant
threats to public health and safety. I look forward to working with you on these issues.


https://s3.amazonaws.com/big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/LtrfromSessions.pdf

http://www.thecannabist.co/2017/08/07/jeff-sessions-letter-oregon-marijuana-governor-kate-brown/85524/


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thanosibe
08/08/17 7:43:03 PM
#39:


Outside of TC cause I know she hates marijuana. Why is this forum so backassward or deliberately contrary when it comes to drugs? They'll rage on and on about tobacco or alcohol but do nothing but praise pot. Addiction is addiction. It's about moderation. Smoking a bowl or blunt to get high and play CoD isn't medication. It's abusing s drug. Just like me drinking right now and about to play BotW. I don't how CE confuses the two other than being contrary to prop up their preferred recreational drug.
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NadYobWoc
08/08/17 7:45:05 PM
#40:


Sessions hates trans people. Rethink your shit TC.
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hike4safety
08/08/17 7:45:08 PM
#41:


Paper_Okami posted...
Sayoria posted...
You all will see. When we get this new DARE program rolling, the marijuana business will die.


In the GOAT state of MA.

All adults 21 and over can now grow up to 6 MJ plants in their household.

Very helpful for my sister in law who has Crohn's. So she won't need to keep driving to a MM facility to deal with severe pain that has sometimes stopped her from working for months at a time.

lmao

good thing only MA can do that

not like washington and colorado have been doing it for literal years
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Genocet_10-325
08/08/17 7:47:03 PM
#42:


Dare just seems to imply the only reason any kids try drugs is because it's "cool" , not because they feel really really really really really good.
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Tmaster148
08/08/17 7:49:08 PM
#43:


Genocet_10-325 posted...
Dare just seems to imply the only reason any kids try drugs is because it's "cool" , not because they feel really really really really really good.


DARE wouldn't have even stopped the heroin problem going on in the US right now. Doctors over prescribing opiods getting people addicted to them and when the legal supply was taken from reach, people switched to heroin to keep up the addiction.
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Sayoria
08/08/17 7:49:35 PM
#44:


NadYobWoc posted...
Sessions hates trans people. Rethink your shit TC.


Never said I loved the guy.
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BootyGif
08/08/17 7:51:47 PM
#45:


Sayoria posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
Sessions hates trans people. Rethink your shit TC.


Never said I loved the guy.

oh wait, you're the one with the weird anti-weed beliefs?
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Sayoria
08/08/17 7:54:49 PM
#46:


BootyGif posted...
Sayoria posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
Sessions hates trans people. Rethink your shit TC.


Never said I loved the guy.

oh wait, you're the one with the weird anti-weed beliefs?


Not "weird" but yeah. I am very much against weed addiction.
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ghettoraider81
08/08/17 7:59:14 PM
#47:


I don't smoke weed, I smoke fools like you on the B-Ball court!
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Zeeak4444
08/08/17 8:04:39 PM
#48:


Why do you keep ignoring my posts? Are you actively against refining your approach to a problem?
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Sayoria
08/08/17 8:14:19 PM
#49:


Zeeak4444 posted...
Sayoria posted...
You all will see. When we get this new DARE program rolling, the marijuana business will die.


Why not approach it from a way that might actually do some good?

Why double down on something that has not only been proven to not work but also makes no sense to anyone who's actually been around drugs?

You're hurting your own cause here.


How would inhaling smoke and drying up your lungs lead to good? If people are going to smoke it, expect to be the last person on the donor list when you need a lung transplant.

Because we can leave the current druggies in the dust and save the kids.
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08/08/17 8:18:11 PM
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One problem is when kids find out they've been lied/grossly exaggerated to about how dangerous weed is why wouldn't they assume you're lying about the dangers of harder drugs too?
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