Current Events > Why do people on this site hate popular AAA games so much?

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If you mention some niche game like an Indy darling from Steam or a Niche JRPG from Atlus or a Harem Hentai VN people will fawn all over it and say GOTY. I guess you can add anything Zelda to that list as well.

But as soon as you want to talk about mainstream games with high production values and actually decent game sales all of a sudden it's like this game sucks lololol or AAA games suck lololol.
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Fallout 4 is literally trash.

ColdOne666 posted...

with high production values and

We want to play a game, not watch a shitty movie
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foreveraIone posted...

ColdOne666 posted...

with high production values and

We want to play a game, not watch a shitty movie

Pretty much
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Production values have nothing to do with cinematics. GTAV is an example of a game with ridiculously high production values because there's so much attention to detail.
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because lots of companies phone in their AAA games because they still turn a profit

just because someone pumped a lot of money into something doesn't automatically make it good
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It's really only the phoned in AAA titles they hate from Ubisoft and the over monitized shit from WB and such.

I've gotten CE to go apeshit on me for calling out other AAA titles for being boring cinematic slogs plenty of times so clearly they love AAA titles, usually when they are exclusives.
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Microtransactions, disc locked dlc, day one dlc, hour long cutscenes with a QTE thrown in because devs think gamers are all masochists, yearly releases of the same game, a massive fear of original IPs, and remaster after remaster after remaster.

There are good AAA titles. But for every good game, there are 3 more that treat gaming like a means of sucking as much money from consumers as possible instead of being about entertaining them. As for indie titles, idk. We either get a good game, a copy of a good game with shittier gameplay, or an unfinished mess that no thought was put into whatsoever.

The real kicker is, though, we're the ones responsible for shit like lootcrates and shark cards. We want good games, but we also enable garbage practices. It is what it is.
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Albel-Nox posted...

Fallout 4 is literally trash.

So is New Vegas, at least 4 is playable without crashing and doesn't need fan made patches.

foreveraIone posted...

We want to play a game, not watch a shitty movie

Darmik posted...

Production values have nothing to do with cinematics. GTAV is an example of a game with ridiculously high production values because there's so much attention to detail.

This. So many stupid people itt.



_Near_ posted...

because lots of companies phone in their AAA games because they still turn a profit

just because someone pumped a lot of money into something doesn't automatically make it good

Like how Neptunia has a new game every year lol? or how almost all Atlus RPG's are all the same, just change a few names.
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ColdOne666 posted...

or how almost all Atlus RPG's are all the same, just change a few names.

You clearly haven't played many.

this is a lame gimmick bro

Monday posted...

Microtransactions, disc locked dlc, day one dlc, hour long cutscenes with a QTE thrown in because devs think gamers are all masochists, yearly releases of the same game, a massive fear of original IPs, and remaster after remaster after remaster.

Plenty of niche games have all that stuff, it's basically industry standard at this point.

Monday posted...

There are good AAA titles. But for every good game, there are 3 more that treat gaming like a means of sucking as much money from consumers as possible instead of being about entertaining them. As for indie titles, idk. We either get a good game, a copy of a good game with shittier gameplay, or an unfinished mess that no thought was put into whatsoever.

The real kicker is, though, we're the ones responsible for shit like lootcrates and shark cards. We want good games, but we also enable garbage practices. It is what it is.

Agreed the whole industry is a mess.
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ColdOne666 posted...

Like how Neptunia has a new game every year lol? or how almost all Atlus RPG's are all the same, just change a few names.

yeah because they're still using procedurally-generated dungeons for the main story and you can't control your party members

try not to talk out of your depth. i know it's hard.
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OP rate my install library


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ManSpread posted...

OP rate my install library

Hard to rate when i haven't heard of most of them. At least it's not that Anime Harem crap.
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Design and ideas become market research, creativity becomes guidelines and streamlining.

Most of AAA are souless, creatively bankrupt formulaic, repetitive shit to get massive appeal
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Also monetizing in AAA has become really disgusting while indie to middleware offered free content for their buyers. Hollow knight give us 2 new boss battles snd gonna be more, shadowrun hong Kong give us 5-10 hours free expansion story, while AAA expect us to pay 5 bucks for rng based loot crate
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What about all the truckloads of garbage indy games that get dumped on Steam through greenlight with false advertising.

At least with AAA games you know what your getting.
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Uncharted is literally trash.

ColdOne666 posted...

What about all the truckloads of garbage indy games that get dumped on Steam through greenlight with false advertising.

At least with AAA games you know what your getting.

It is hard filtering out the crap, bug these days the craps are so obvious it is much easier filtering all the gems from the turds snd the are usually brilliant gems
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You seem to have this weird notion that people "here" are praising random indie crap over AAA titles. I agree that a lot of indie stuff is crap or glorified betas but a lot of the good ones are really good and that's what people generally praise. Niche stuff doesn't get as many mentions.

AAA games are just soulless these days. People are very cynical towards them or are simply burnt out. If you play three Ubisoft games in a row, you'll have a low opinion of the newest one. Same for playing too many open world games.
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Ki_cat_ posted...

AAA games are just soulless these days. People are very cynical towards them or are simply burnt out. If you play three Ubisoft games in a row, you'll have a low opinion of the newest one. Same for playing too many open world games.

I haven't played any Ubisoft games. I also don't need to pretend all AAA games are the same and insult them because I'm not mentally challenged.
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Board is full of weebs. It's Western AAA games they don't like.
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It is annoying if people just lump together "AAA" with "lol it's shit" but I think people mostly hate on things that get praised up and down, flavor of the month stuff.

Due to AAA developers being kind of lazy, some stuff can feel very "samey" and boring.
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There are also people that have been gaming for so long they've become jaded or bored and don't realise it.
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http://www.dictionary.com/browse/niche

adjective
5.
pertaining to or intended for a market niche; having specific appeal:
niche advertising.

AAA games are starting to fall into the definition of the word niche.
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i find the same people who hate AAA games are the same people who hate """weebs"""
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I just noticed this. lol

ColdOne666 posted...

Ki_cat_ posted...

AAA games are just soulless these days. People are very cynical towards them or are simply burnt out. If you play three Ubisoft games in a row, you'll have a low opinion of the newest one. Same for playing too many open world games.

I haven't played any Ubisoft games. I also don't need to pretend all AAA games are the same and insult them because I'm not mentally challenged.

ColdOne666 posted...

What about all the truckloads of garbage indy games that get dumped on Steam through greenlight with false advertising.

At least with AAA games you know what your getting.

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Rika_Furude posted...

i find the same people who hate AAA games are the same people who hate """weebs"""

So, Weebs?
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The Last Guardian is literally trash.

Darmik posted...

Production values have nothing to do with cinematics. GTAV is an example of a game with ridiculously high production values because there's so much attention to detail.

gtav doesn't really escape the trend with its huge amount of scripted cinematics or scripted events:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF8t4ygOZwo
(though at least the cinematics are skippable)

also, the whole MP aspect and microtransaction grab is definitely another reason to dislike it as an "AAA" game.
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Albel-Nox posted...

The Last Guardian is literally trash.

Leave

Grand Theft Auto was always literally trash.

Albel-Nox posted...

The Last Guardian is literally trash.

It's not a AAA game.
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Monday posted...

Microtransactions, disc locked dlc, day one dlc, hour long cutscenes with a QTE thrown in because devs think gamers are all masochists, yearly releases of the same game, a massive fear of original IPs, and remaster after remaster after remaster.

There are good AAA titles. But for every good game, there are 3 more that treat gaming like a means of sucking as much money from consumers as possible instead of being about entertaining them. As for indie titles, idk. We either get a good game, a copy of a good game with shittier gameplay, or an unfinished mess that no thought was put into whatsoever.

The real kicker is, though, we're the ones responsible for shit like lootcrates and shark cards. We want good games, but we also enable garbage practices. It is what it is.

This is the perfect answer.
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AsucaHayashi posted...

Darmik posted...

Production values have nothing to do with cinematics. GTAV is an example of a game with ridiculously high production values because there's so much attention to detail.

gtav doesn't really escape the trend with its huge amount of scripted cinematics or scripted events:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF8t4ygOZwo
(though at least the cinematics are skippable)

also, the whole MP aspect and microtransaction grab is definitely another reason to dislike it as an "AAA" game.

I get that. But I'm saying that cinematics doesn't have anything to do with production values.

Telltale games are nothing but scripted cinematics but they don't have high production values.
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