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eastwoodchairs
08/06/17 7:19:05 PM
#103:


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Not at the levels transgenders have.

Because transgenders are exponentially more shit upon than gays.
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Monolith1676
08/06/17 7:32:02 PM
#104:


I thought people wanted to reduce military spending.
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MangaFan462
08/06/17 7:39:19 PM
#105:


Tansmadness is a mental illness that needs proper treament
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PoopMcgee420
08/06/17 8:01:46 PM
#106:


eastwoodchairs posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Not at the levels transgenders have.

Because transgenders are exponentially more shit upon than gays.


Then how come in the 80s their numbers were never this high?

How come blacks never had such a high suicide rate?

And again if being picked on and bullied causes stress and suicide....wtf do you think war is gonna do?
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eastwoodchairs
08/06/17 9:05:17 PM
#108:


PoopMcgee420 posted...
Then how come in the 80s their numbers were never this high?

Because a bunch were closeted and their plight wasn't exposed to academic study.
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eastwoodchairs
08/06/17 9:05:50 PM
#109:


PoopMcgee420 posted...
How come blacks never had such a high suicide rate?

Some people react internally. Some react outward.
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PoopMcgee420
08/06/17 9:21:31 PM
#110:


eastwoodchairs posted...
PoopMcgee420 posted...
Then how come in the 80s their numbers were never this high?

Because a bunch were closeted and their plight wasn't exposed to academic study.


Oh so you have no reason just speculation?
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eastwoodchairs
08/06/17 9:42:29 PM
#111:


PoopMcgee420 posted...
Oh so you have no reason just speculation?

No, it's fucking practical sense.
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PoopMcgee420
08/06/17 9:50:09 PM
#112:


eastwoodchairs posted...
PoopMcgee420 posted...
Oh so you have no reason just speculation?

No, it's fucking practical sense.


No its not. Lol its literally just made up shit.

In the80s gays were treated WORSE than transgenders are in 2016
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The Admiral
08/06/17 10:16:08 PM
#113:


PoopMcgee420 posted...
eastwoodchairs posted...
PoopMcgee420 posted...
Then how come in the 80s their numbers were never this high?

Because a bunch were closeted and their plight wasn't exposed to academic study.


Oh so you have no reason just speculation?


That's another BBT alt, why would you expect more?
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PoopMcgee420
08/06/17 10:16:53 PM
#114:


The Admiral posted...
PoopMcgee420 posted...
eastwoodchairs posted...
PoopMcgee420 posted...
Then how come in the 80s their numbers were never this high?

Because a bunch were closeted and their plight wasn't exposed to academic study.


Oh so you have no reason just speculation?


That's another BBT alt, why would you expect more?


Ahh didnt know thanks for that
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gunplagirl
08/06/17 10:22:58 PM
#115:


PoopMcgee420 posted...
eastwoodchairs posted...
PoopMcgee420 posted...
Oh so you have no reason just speculation?

No, it's fucking practical sense.


No its not. Lol its literally just made up shit.

In the80s gays were treated WORSE than transgenders are in 2016


Yeah, I guess the fact that there's already nearly 20 trans women murdered this year alone that we know of has nothing on the gay murder victims of the 80s.

I'm excluding aids deaths as that's not murder in a direct sense. Though, Ronald Reagan and his wife are monsters because they left them for dead.
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PoopMcgee420
08/06/17 10:28:56 PM
#116:


gunplagirl posted...
PoopMcgee420 posted...
eastwoodchairs posted...
PoopMcgee420 posted...
Oh so you have no reason just speculation?

No, it's fucking practical sense.


No its not. Lol its literally just made up shit.

In the80s gays were treated WORSE than transgenders are in 2016


Yeah, I guess the fact that there's already nearly 20 trans women murdered this year alone that we know of has nothing on the gay murder victims of the 80s.

I'm excluding aids deaths as that's not murder in a direct sense. Though, Ronald Reagan and his wife are monsters because they left them for dead.


Okay cool...need a source buddy pal

Combat readiness
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PoopMcgee420
08/06/17 10:31:11 PM
#117:


gunplagirl posted...


Yeah, I guess the fact that there's already nearly 20 trans women murdered this year alone that we know of has nothing on the gay murder victims of the 80s.
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Lmfao @gunplagirl
http://www.hrc.org/resources/violence-against-the-transgender-community-in-2017
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gunplagirl
08/06/17 10:45:01 PM
#118:


PoopMcgee420 posted...
gunplagirl posted...


Yeah, I guess the fact that there's already nearly 20 trans women murdered this year alone that we know of has nothing on the gay murder victims of the 80s.
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Lmfao @gunplagirl
http://www.hrc.org/resources/violence-against-the-transgender-community-in-2017

16 is awfully close to 20, and that's just based off the ones we know of that have been reported on. More than a few have already had their bodies claimed by families quietly, as happens every year.
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gunplagirl
08/06/17 10:47:13 PM
#119:


PoopMcgee420 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
PoopMcgee420 posted...
eastwoodchairs posted...
PoopMcgee420 posted...
Oh so you have no reason just speculation?

No, it's fucking practical sense.


No its not. Lol its literally just made up shit.

In the80s gays were treated WORSE than transgenders are in 2016


Yeah, I guess the fact that there's already nearly 20 trans women murdered this year alone that we know of has nothing on the gay murder victims of the 80s.

I'm excluding aids deaths as that's not murder in a direct sense. Though, Ronald Reagan and his wife are monsters because they left them for dead.


Okay cool...need a source buddy pal

Combat readiness

Go ahead, prove me wrong that gays were murdered en masse every year of the 80s

And several former special ops and marine trans women are or just ran for political offices. Being trans doesn't impact your ability to aim a gun or follow orders.
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eastwoodchairs
08/06/17 11:04:48 PM
#120:


PoopMcgee420 posted...
No its not. Lol its literally just made up shit.
In the80s gays were treated WORSE than transgenders are in 2016

Yeah, because there were more gays out of the closet than potential transgenders.
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Jet_Enduro101
08/06/17 11:07:44 PM
#121:


It's pretty cute to watch a bunch of people who have never served talk about what can be considered or is relevant to the status of those who are serving, or have served. Not only do most of you not even understand what it means to serve, some don't even know what a veteran is.

I implore you all to either educate yourselves on the topic at hand before spouting this drivel, or defer to people who know what the fuck they're talking about.
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gunplagirl
08/06/17 11:17:01 PM
#122:


Jet_Enduro101 posted...
It's pretty cute to watch a bunch of people who have never served talk about what can be considered or is relevant to the status of those who are serving, or have served. Not only do most of you not even understand what it means to serve, some don't even know what a veteran is.

I implore you all to either educate yourselves on the topic at hand before spouting this drivel, or defer to people who know what the fuck they're talking about.

Pretty much.
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PoopMcgee420
08/06/17 11:28:43 PM
#123:


Jet_Enduro101 posted...
It's pretty cute to watch a bunch of people who have never served talk about what can be considered or is relevant to the status of those who are serving, or have served. Not only do most of you not even understand what it means to serve, some don't even know what a veteran is.

I implore you all to either educate yourselves on the topic at hand before spouting this drivel, or defer to people who know what the fuck they're talking about.


Agreed. 1000%
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PoopMcgee420
08/06/17 11:29:47 PM
#124:


gunplagirl posted...

Go ahead, prove me wrong that gays were murdered en masse every year of the 80s

And several former special ops and marine trans women are or just ran for political offices. Being trans doesn't impact your ability to aim a gun or follow orders.


Omfg you dont know what combat readiness is....omfg

Which makes this.....


gunplagirl posted...
Jet_Enduro101 posted...
It's pretty cute to watch a bunch of people who have never served talk about what can be considered or is relevant to the status of those who are serving, or have served. Not only do most of you not even understand what it means to serve, some don't even know what a veteran is.

I implore you all to either educate yourselves on the topic at hand before spouting this drivel, or defer to people who know what the fuck they're talking about.

Pretty much.



Fucking gold.
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PoopMcgee420
08/06/17 11:30:22 PM
#125:


eastwoodchairs posted...
PoopMcgee420 posted...
No its not. Lol its literally just made up shit.
In the80s gays were treated WORSE than transgenders are in 2016

Yeah, because there were more gays out of the closet than potential transgenders.


And the % should represent that
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eastwoodchairs
08/06/17 11:37:50 PM
#126:


PoopMcgee420 posted...
And the % should represent that

Except that it doesn't. Because the %s don't control for closeted, social climate, etc.
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PoopMcgee420
08/07/17 1:38:26 AM
#127:


eastwoodchairs posted...
PoopMcgee420 posted...
And the % should represent that

Except that it doesn't. Because the %s don't control for closeted, social climate, etc.


Oh ok.....soooo basically ur making shit up
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Dragonblade01
08/07/17 1:45:17 AM
#128:


Unfortunately, it may be the case that until transgender people gain more understanding and acceptance in the nation in general, along with better and more easily available transitioning options (which may, in and of itself, help with regard to the former), military service might be out of the question.
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PoopMcgee420
08/07/17 1:46:21 AM
#129:


Dragonblade01 posted...
Unfortunately, it may be the case that until transgender people gain more understanding and acceptance in the nation in general,


Gays and blacks never had a suicide problem like this
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Dragonblade01
08/07/17 1:46:48 AM
#130:


PoopMcgee420 posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Unfortunately, it may be the case that until transgender people gain more understanding and acceptance in the nation in general,


Gays and blacks never had a suicide problem like this

Gays and blacks were at least allowed their identity.
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PoopMcgee420
08/07/17 1:49:41 AM
#131:


Dragonblade01 posted...
PoopMcgee420 posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Unfortunately, it may be the case that until transgender people gain more understanding and acceptance in the nation in general,


Gays and blacks never had a suicide problem like this

Gays and blacks were at least allowed their identity.


Im sorry im not buying it. And lets just say for the sake of argument you are correct...if boot camp is too stressful one would think war would be too
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Dragonblade01
08/07/17 1:52:49 AM
#132:


PoopMcgee420 posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
PoopMcgee420 posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Unfortunately, it may be the case that until transgender people gain more understanding and acceptance in the nation in general,


Gays and blacks never had a suicide problem like this

Gays and blacks were at least allowed their identity.


Im sorry im not buying it. And lets just say for the sake of argument you are correct...if boot camp is too stressful one would think war would be too

If you can't handle boot camp, then you shouldn't be allowed into military service proper, regardless of demographics.
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PoopMcgee420
08/07/17 2:01:06 AM
#133:


Dragonblade01 posted...

If you can't handle boot camp, then you shouldn't be allowed into military service proper, regardless of demographics.


Agreed.

The whole subject is tough.

On one side yeah man you wanna fight for America sure go ahead....But then you factor in safety and cost and idk...im glad the toughest decision i have to make everyday is how im getting to work .... Truck, Stang, or Motorcycle
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eastwoodchairs
08/07/17 3:40:23 AM
#134:


Dragonblade01 posted...
If you can't handle boot camp, then you shouldn't be allowed into military service proper, regardless of demographics.

They made it through boot camp, and then they continued to feel like outsiders.
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Dragonblade01
08/07/17 4:58:42 AM
#135:


eastwoodchairs posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
If you can't handle boot camp, then you shouldn't be allowed into military service proper, regardless of demographics.

They made it through boot camp, and then they continued to feel like outsiders.

Then clearly the issue was not their capability, at least insofar as boot camp is concerned.
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PoopMcgee420
08/07/17 7:02:30 AM
#136:


eastwoodchairs posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
If you can't handle boot camp, then you shouldn't be allowed into military service proper, regardless of demographics.

They made it through boot camp, and then they continued to feel like outsiders.

Or they made it and still had their mental illness that wasnt under control
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gunplagirl
08/07/17 7:43:10 PM
#137:


PoopMcgee420 posted...
eastwoodchairs posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
If you can't handle boot camp, then you shouldn't be allowed into military service proper, regardless of demographics.

They made it through boot camp, and then they continued to feel like outsiders.

Or they made it and still had their mental illness that wasnt under control

Is that what the data shows? It isn't? Gosh.
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PoopMcgee420
08/08/17 7:29:28 AM
#138:


gunplagirl posted...
PoopMcgee420 posted...
eastwoodchairs posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
If you can't handle boot camp, then you shouldn't be allowed into military service proper, regardless of demographics.

They made it through boot camp, and then they continued to feel like outsiders.

Or they made it and still had their mental illness that wasnt under control

Is that what the data shows? It isn't? Gosh.

It is
You dont like data tho
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thelovefist
08/08/17 7:38:38 AM
#139:


Imagine responding to gunplagirl seriously
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gunplagirl
08/08/17 8:27:15 AM
#140:


Where's the data show it isn't under control?
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PoopMcgee420
08/08/17 11:25:45 AM
#141:


gunplagirl posted...
Where's the data show it isn't under control?


50% of the vets try suicide
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PoopMcgee420
08/08/17 11:25:56 AM
#142:


thelovefist posted...
Imagine responding to gunplagirl seriously

Im bored
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gunplagirl
08/08/17 11:51:24 AM
#143:


PoopMcgee420 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Where's the data show it isn't under control?


50% of the vets try suicide

So fresh out of boot camp=vet? I get that your sticker book says reach for the stars but you probably shouldn't reach when making a crappy argument to justify your biases.
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PoopMcgee420
08/08/17 2:45:01 PM
#144:


gunplagirl posted...
PoopMcgee420 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Where's the data show it isn't under control?


50% of the vets try suicide

So fresh out of boot camp=vet? I get that your sticker book says reach for the stars but you probably shouldn't reach when making a crappy argument to justify your biases.


Youre aware you havent brought any intelligent posts to the topic.

Or any facts with evidence.

But im the one reaching

xD
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