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Schwarber 08/05/17 4:40:33 PM #52:	Top 10-15 --- http://i.imgur.com/iQXgYOx.gif http://i.imgur.com/l3frhSF.gif http://i.imgur.com/HM1Hjby.gif https://i.imgur.com/bvsFH0H.jpg - drawn by Yaridovich <cite>Schwarber posted [p:884241365] in How would ... [t:75640915]...</cite> <quote>Top 10-15</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 08/05/17 4:42:05 PM #53:	The Admiral posted... Don't want to speculate on how challenging it might be for you to write a tweet, but it likely doesn't take Trump even a minute to write one. First of all, I don't tweet. And you're right, it doesn't take a min to write one, but it takes him a long time to try and clean it up. --- I don't have to insult you. I have proven that you are a hypocrite and a fool. That's not insulting you, that's exposing you. PSN-Bishop9800 <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:884241448] in How would ... [t:75640915]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote> Don't want to speculate on how challenging it might be for you to write a tweet, but it likely doesn't take Trump even a minute to write one.</quote> First of all, I don't tweet. And you're right, it doesn't take a min to write one, but it takes him a long time to try and clean it up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xeno14 08/05/17 4:42:37 PM #54:	The Admiral posted... Xeno14 posted... terrible. https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/01/12/democrats-cant-win-until-they-recognize-how-bad-obamas-financial-policies-were/ Obama's financial policies were great for rich people and the guys on Wall Street who created the financial crisis in 2009. They were atrocious for lower and middle class Americans, however, which are surprisingly most of the folks who supported him. not really surprising. most people don't really pay attention very well. another example is the whole immigration situation. like look at all the shit trump gets for the immigration raids, yet how much flak is said about obama when he deported so many? The main difference between the two in that regard is that trump brags about it which is gauche or a call to rally support behind him depending on where you fall in political ties. --- http://i.imgur.com/brMr5Ig.jpg http://i.imgur.com/MoXxySu.gif https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyGM7qMXgAAwhbT.jpg:large <cite>Xeno14 posted [p:884241477] in How would ... [t:75640915]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Xeno14 posted...</cite> <quote>terrible. https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/01/12/democrats-cant-win-until-they-recognize-how-bad-obamas-financial-policies-were/</quote> Obama's financial policies were great for rich people and the guys on Wall Street who created the financial crisis in 2009. They were atrocious for lower and middle class Americans, however, which are surprisingly most of the folks who supported him.</quote> not really surprising. most people don't really pay attention very well. another example is the whole immigration situation. like look at all the shit trump gets for the immigration raids, yet how much flak is said about obama when he deported so many? The main difference between the two in that regard is that trump brags about it which is gauche or a call to rally support behind him depending on where you fall in political ties.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 08/05/17 4:43:51 PM #55:	DifferentialEquation posted... Bishop9800 posted... DifferentialEquation posted... And what does Twitter have to do with a president's overall presidency? Nothing, but the left won't shut up about that. Well since this president has spent all his time running his mouth on Twitter, it has a lot to do with the presidency. Unlike throwing out a baseball. The country wants a president that portrays strength to other world leaders. Obama's pitch made him look weak and like a joke; it's no wonder Obama went around grovelling to other countries. Bush wasn't a good president, but unlike Obama, at least he portrayed strength and didn't let other world leaders walk all over him and take advantage of our country. Whatever bullshit you want to tell yourself --- I don't have to insult you. I have proven that you are a hypocrite and a fool. That's not insulting you, that's exposing you. PSN-Bishop9800 <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:884241539] in How would ... [t:75640915]...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>And what does Twitter have to do with a president's overall presidency? Nothing, but the left won't shut up about that. </quote> Well since this president has spent all his time running his mouth on Twitter, it has a lot to do with the presidency. Unlike throwing out a baseball.</quote> The country wants a president that portrays strength to other world leaders. Obama's pitch made him look weak and like a joke; it's no wonder Obama went around grovelling to other countries. Bush wasn't a good president, but unlike Obama, at least he portrayed strength and didn't let other world leaders walk all over him and take advantage of our country.</quote> Whatever bullshit you want to tell yourself</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gatorsPENSbucs 08/05/17 4:46:27 PM #56:	Poor. Not sure if he really did anything good. --- http://m.imgur.com/BtD5etN?r https://m.imgur.com/a/jclul http://i.imgtc.com/etNW2apANm.jpg <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted [p:884241672] in How would ... [t:75640915]...</cite> <quote>Poor. Not sure if he really did anything good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hinakuluiau 08/05/17 4:50:04 PM #57:	He's been okay. Definitely a disappointment, but he'll stack up right in the middle of all presidents we've had. It's easier to address his weaknesses first; he was given a supermajority in the Senate, control of both houses in Congress, and a screaming public mandate....and did nothing of particular consequence with it. He got a watered-down health care bill passed...a bill which he was more concerned with than everything else on his agenda. If the ACA was used as a bargaining chip (including single payer and public options), he could have gotten any number of things done in lieu of passing it. But he didn't. He also didn't really respect the public by prosecuting insurance and banking titans. The public wanted big bankers' heads after the collapse...and instead their businesses were deemed "too big to fail". I personally think the money spent bailing out the financial institutions would've been better off spent by paying off all of the public's loans. The entire public gets what they bought and couldn't pay for, which not only makes the public really happy but also severely punishes the institutions that made those s***y loans. He also had questionable, if not outright terrible, foreign and military policy his first term. Libya was a resounding disaster, and demonstrated his unfamiliarity with military operations. You cannot just topple the leadership of a country, stick a "mission accomplished" sign on a battleship, and call it a day. There exists a concept called a power vacuum. Google it, it's pretty interesting. He also overestimated the chances of closing Guantanamo. The prisoners there have no home; we can't bring them back to America, we can't let them go home...so what happens to them? That's a pretty big issue he's only recently started to figure out. But Obama's had some relative success. Even if they're crap jobs, his job creation record has been pretty substantial. Under his presidency, the LGBT community has experienced massive progress. And even though CO and WA were the pioneers of selling legal weed and Obama has continued the war on drugs by supplying local PDs with military-grade weapons, his decision to not prosecute anyone in those two states for pot-related offences opened the gate for discussion, and eventual adoption by other states. He's also been a cunning politician in the last 6 months or so; he was able to put a Republican Congress on tilt almost immediately following the election, and may actually provide a wave of support for Democrats in 2016. His mere presence has also been a source of conflict...conflict which I'd argue is healthy for the nation. I think the country's really been looking at itself in the last 8 years. Ferguson, Sandy Hook, Aurora, Fort Hood, Dontre Hamilton, Treyvon Martin, and countless other cases have happened in his presidency. I don't necessarily see any institutional changes taking place, but look at what's happening to the millennial generation: We are pretty open and accepting of all races and backgrounds, are pretty anti-violence, and not too gun-crazy. We'll see what comes of his presidency in the years to come, but having the first black president hasn't just been for show. So yeah, a little mixed. He's had some successes and some failures. Some of the things he considers successes are at best misguided, if not outright failures, but he's also done some legitimate good. Nowhere near the bottom echelon of presidencies, but also far from the top. 200 years from now, I think his place in history will be for the color of his skin and not what he actually did in office. --- There are some things where I just bypass critical thinking.* - ROD http://error1355.com/ce/Hinakuluiau.html <cite>Hinakuluiau posted [p:884241831] in How would ... [t:75640915]...</cite> <quote><quote>He's been okay. Definitely a disappointment, but he'll stack up right in the middle of all presidents we've had. It's easier to address his weaknesses first; he was given a supermajority in the Senate, control of both houses in Congress, and a screaming public mandate....and did nothing of particular consequence with it. He got a watered-down health care bill passed...a bill which he was more concerned with than everything else on his agenda. If the ACA was used as a bargaining chip (including single payer and public options), he could have gotten any number of things done in lieu of passing it. But he didn't. He also didn't really respect the public by prosecuting insurance and banking titans. The public wanted big bankers' heads after the collapse...and instead their businesses were deemed "too big to fail". I personally think the money spent bailing out the financial institutions would've been better off spent by paying off all of the public's loans. The entire public gets what they bought and couldn't pay for, which not only makes the public really happy but also severely punishes the institutions that made those s****y loans. He also had questionable, if not outright terrible, foreign and military policy his first term. Libya was a resounding disaster, and demonstrated his unfamiliarity with military operations. You cannot just topple the leadership of a country, stick a "mission accomplished" sign on a battleship, and call it a day. There exists a concept called a power vacuum. Google it, it's pretty interesting. He also overestimated the chances of closing Guantanamo. The prisoners there have no home; we can't bring them back to America, we can't let them go home...so what happens to them? That's a pretty big issue he's only recently started to figure out. But Obama's had some relative success. Even if they're crap jobs, his job creation record has been pretty substantial. Under his presidency, the LGBT community has experienced massive progress. And even though CO and WA were the pioneers of selling legal weed and Obama has continued the war on drugs by supplying local PDs with military-grade weapons, his decision to not prosecute anyone in those two states for pot-related offences opened the gate for discussion, and eventual adoption by other states. He's also been a cunning politician in the last 6 months or so; he was able to put a Republican Congress on tilt almost immediately following the election, and may actually provide a wave of support for Democrats in 2016. His mere presence has also been a source of conflict...conflict which I'd argue is healthy for the nation. I think the country's really been looking at itself in the last 8 years. Ferguson, Sandy Hook, Aurora, Fort Hood, Dontre Hamilton, Treyvon Martin, and countless other cases have happened in his presidency. I don't necessarily see any institutional changes taking place, but look at what's happening to the millennial generation: We are pretty open and accepting of all races and backgrounds, are pretty anti-violence, and not too gun-crazy. We'll see what comes of his presidency in the years to come, but having the first black president hasn't just been for show. So yeah, a little mixed. He's had some successes and some failures. Some of the things he considers successes are at best misguided, if not outright failures, but he's also done some legitimate good. Nowhere near the bottom echelon of presidencies, but also far from the top. 200 years from now, I think his place in history will be for the color of his skin and not what he actually did in office. </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 08/05/17 4:53:36 PM #58:	Bishop9800 posted... DifferentialEquation posted... Bishop9800 posted... DifferentialEquation posted... And what does Twitter have to do with a president's overall presidency? Nothing, but the left won't shut up about that. Well since this president has spent all his time running his mouth on Twitter, it has a lot to do with the presidency. Unlike throwing out a baseball. The country wants a president that portrays strength to other world leaders. Obama's pitch made him look weak and like a joke; it's no wonder Obama went around grovelling to other countries. Bush wasn't a good president, but unlike Obama, at least he portrayed strength and didn't let other world leaders walk all over him and take advantage of our country. Whatever bullshit you want to tell yourself It's not bullshit. We were the laughing stock of the world when Obama was president. --- "If the day does not require an AK, it is good." The Great Warrior Poet, Ice Cube <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:884242003] in How would ... [t:75640915]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>And what does Twitter have to do with a president's overall presidency? Nothing, but the left won't shut up about that. </quote> Well since this president has spent all his time running his mouth on Twitter, it has a lot to do with the presidency. Unlike throwing out a baseball.</quote> The country wants a president that portrays strength to other world leaders. Obama's pitch made him look weak and like a joke; it's no wonder Obama went around grovelling to other countries. Bush wasn't a good president, but unlike Obama, at least he portrayed strength and didn't let other world leaders walk all over him and take advantage of our country.</quote> Whatever bullshit you want to tell yourself</quote> It's not bullshit. We were the laughing stock of the world when Obama was president.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordZangetsu_LZ 08/05/17 4:55:09 PM #59:	DifferentialEquation posted... Bishop9800 posted... DifferentialEquation posted... Bishop9800 posted... DifferentialEquation posted... And what does Twitter have to do with a president's overall presidency? Nothing, but the left won't shut up about that. Well since this president has spent all his time running his mouth on Twitter, it has a lot to do with the presidency. Unlike throwing out a baseball. The country wants a president that portrays strength to other world leaders. Obama's pitch made him look weak and like a joke; it's no wonder Obama went around grovelling to other countries. Bush wasn't a good president, but unlike Obama, at least he portrayed strength and didn't let other world leaders walk all over him and take advantage of our country. Whatever bullshit you want to tell yourself It's not bullshit. We were the laughing stock of the world when Obama was president. and so with Trump in office.. that'll change huh?? --- "The Bible has noble poetry in it... and some good morals and a wealth of obscenity, and upwards of a thousand lies." -Mark Twain <cite>LordZangetsu_LZ posted [p:884242083] in How would ... [t:75640915]...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>And what does Twitter have to do with a president's overall presidency? Nothing, but the left won't shut up about that. </quote> Well since this president has spent all his time running his mouth on Twitter, it has a lot to do with the presidency. Unlike throwing out a baseball.</quote> The country wants a president that portrays strength to other world leaders. Obama's pitch made him look weak and like a joke; it's no wonder Obama went around grovelling to other countries. Bush wasn't a good president, but unlike Obama, at least he portrayed strength and didn't let other world leaders walk all over him and take advantage of our country.</quote> Whatever bullshit you want to tell yourself</quote> It's not bullshit. We were the laughing stock of the world when Obama was president.</quote> and so with Trump in office.. that'll change huh??</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DifferentialEquation 08/05/17 4:59:45 PM #61:	CrimsonRage posted... DifferentialEquation posted... It's not bullshit. We were the laughing stock of the world when Obama was president. You're the laughing stock of the world now. You literally elected a con man. All America's allies liked Obama. They liked Obama because he let them take advantage of us. That's no longer the case with Trump. --- "If the day does not require an AK, it is good." The Great Warrior Poet, Ice Cube <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:884242323] in How would ... [t:75640915]...</cite> <quote><cite>CrimsonRage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>It's not bullshit. We were the laughing stock of the world when Obama was president.</quote> You're the laughing stock of the world now. You literally elected a con man. All America's allies liked Obama.</quote> They liked Obama because he let them take advantage of us. That's no longer the case with Trump.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 08/05/17 5:03:54 PM #63:	CrimsonRage posted... All America's allies liked Obama. Obama exuded snobbery that European elites love. Of course he never criticized them when their failed policies caused the refugee epidemic and led to things like Brexit. And he was happy to have the U.S. write a check to fund any global initiatives they endorsed so that those nations didn't have to pay their fair share. It's no wonder they loved him. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:884242546] in How would ... [t:75640915]...</cite> <quote><cite>CrimsonRage posted...</cite> <quote>All America's allies liked Obama.</quote> Obama exuded snobbery that European elites love. Of course he never criticized them when their failed policies caused the refugee epidemic and led to things like Brexit. And he was happy to have the U.S. write a check to fund any global initiatives they endorsed so that those nations didn't have to pay their fair share. It's no wonder they loved him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 08/05/17 5:04:57 PM #64:	Bullet_Wing posted... DifferentialEquation posted... It's not bullshit. We were the laughing stock of the world when Obama was president. If that were true (it's not) we're even bigger laughingstocks now with Prima Donald at the helm. NATO had to dumb down their briefings to account for his attention span and world leaders were directed to compliment him on his electoral college win. Trump is a joke. Trump brought up his electoral victory because the media and others kept asking him about it. You might not remember this (it was at least a few months ago) but in one meeting Trump actually had to print out his electoral map and hand out copies to the attendees because it was the only way he get people to stop bugging him about it and to focus on the topic at hand. --- "If the day does not require an AK, it is good." The Great Warrior Poet, Ice Cube <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:884242594] in How would ... [t:75640915]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>It's not bullshit. We were the laughing stock of the world when Obama was president.</quote> If that were true (it's not) we're even bigger laughingstocks now with Prima Donald at the helm. NATO had to dumb down their briefings to account for his attention span and world leaders were directed to compliment him on his electoral college win. Trump is a joke.</quote> Trump brought up his electoral victory because the media and others kept asking him about it. You might not remember this (it was at least a few months ago) but in one meeting Trump actually had to print out his electoral map and hand out copies to the attendees because it was the only way he get people to stop bugging him about it and to focus on the topic at hand.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 08/05/17 5:12:15 PM #65:	DifferentialEquation posted... They liked Obama because he let them take advantage of us. That's no longer the case with Trump. With Trump, we're Russia's bitch. But keep thinking we was the "laughing stock of the world. Actually, we are under Trump. --- I don't have to insult you. I have proven that you are a hypocrite and a fool. That's not insulting you, that's exposing you. PSN-Bishop9800 <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:884242935] in How would ... [t:75640915]...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>They liked Obama because he let them take advantage of us. That's no longer the case with Trump. </quote> With Trump, we're Russia's bitch. But keep thinking we was the "laughing stock of the world. Actually, we are under Trump.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gguirao 08/05/17 5:30:11 PM #67:	Better than average. --- Donald J. Trump--proof against government intelligence. <cite>gguirao posted [p:884243771] in How would ... [t:75640915]...</cite> <quote>Better than average.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 08/05/17 6:05:04 PM #68:	Bullet_Wing posted... DifferentialEquation posted... Bullet_Wing posted... DifferentialEquation posted... It's not bullshit. We were the laughing stock of the world when Obama was president. If that were true (it's not) we're even bigger laughingstocks now with Prima Donald at the helm. NATO had to dumb down their briefings to account for his attention span and world leaders were directed to compliment him on his electoral college win. Trump is a joke. Trump brought up his electoral victory because the media and others kept asking him about it. You might not remember this (it was at least a few months ago) but in one meeting Trump actually had to print out his electoral map and hand out copies to the attendees because it was the only way he get people to stop bugging him about it and to focus on the topic at hand. Holy shit, your alternative facts sure are entertaining. If it wasn't for your Sad waifu shrine, I really would think you're just trolling. But after seeing that, no way would someone actually spend real money just to carry a gimmick. Keep on chugging that Kool-aid. Sorry. It must be difficult for you to accept reality where people actually like Trump and that the world isn't just one big echo chamber for NPR and Bernie Sanders. --- "If the day does not require an AK, it is good." The Great Warrior Poet, Ice Cube <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:884245387] in How would ... [t:75640915]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>It's not bullshit. We were the laughing stock of the world when Obama was president.</quote> If that were true (it's not) we're even bigger laughingstocks now with Prima Donald at the helm. NATO had to dumb down their briefings to account for his attention span and world leaders were directed to compliment him on his electoral college win. Trump is a joke.</quote> Trump brought up his electoral victory because the media and others kept asking him about it. You might not remember this (it was at least a few months ago) but in one meeting Trump actually had to print out his electoral map and hand out copies to the attendees because it was the only way he get people to stop bugging him about it and to focus on the topic at hand.</quote> Holy shit, your alternative facts sure are entertaining. If it wasn't for your Sad waifu shrine, I really would think you're just trolling. But after seeing that, no way would someone actually spend real money just to carry a gimmick. Keep on chugging that Kool-aid.</quote> Sorry. It must be difficult for you to accept reality where people actually like Trump and that the world isn't just one big echo chamber for NPR and Bernie Sanders.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YookaLaylee 08/05/17 6:18:43 PM #70:	Middle of the road. Not much changed. --- https://media.giphy.com/media/26gsuNHaqCPgziZYA/giphy.gif <cite>YookaLaylee posted [p:884246023] in How would ... [t:75640915]...</cite> <quote>Middle of the road. Not much changed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iodine 08/05/17 6:20:28 PM #71:	NadYobWoc posted... Middle of the road to good. --- In Belichick we Trust <cite>Iodine posted [p:884246108] in How would ... [t:75640915]...</cite> <quote><cite>NadYobWoc posted...</cite> <quote>Middle of the road to good.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightDarkFrexed 08/05/17 6:22:56 PM #72:	A president who would will be looked at as B- and only significant because he was "the first black president" but whose ass would be kissed even more than Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton if he was white <cite>LightDarkFrexed posted [p:884246228] in How would ... [t:75640915]...</cite> <quote>A president who would will be looked at as B- and only significant because he was "the first black president" but whose ass would be kissed even more than Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton if he was white</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 08/05/17 6:25:36 PM #73:	This thread was asking about Obama. Somehow it's now about Trump. If there is one thing Trump is good at, it's making people obsessed with him. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:884246373] in How would ... [t:75640915]...</cite> <quote>This thread was asking about Obama. Somehow it's now about Trump. If there is one thing Trump is good at, it's making people obsessed with him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 08/05/17 6:26:27 PM #74:	He did great as president. Things didn't go well during his time in office though considering how absolutely shitty Congress is. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:884246422] in How would ... [t:75640915]...</cite> <quote>He did great as president. Things didn't go well during his time in office though considering how absolutely shitty Congress is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
apocalyptic_4 08/05/17 7:05:59 PM #75:	The Admiral posted... He was a complete failure at providing any leadership on the social changes that were occurring in this country. His ignorance/indifference to that fueled a lot of the anger in base that voted for Trump. Laugh out loud --- PSN: Adrian396 XBL: Prime Legacy Nintendo ID: Apocalypse <cite>apocalyptic_4 posted [p:884248326] in How would ... [t:75640915]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>He was a complete failure at providing any leadership on the social changes that were occurring in this country. His ignorance/indifference to that fueled a lot of the anger in base that voted for Trump.</quote> Laugh out loud</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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