Current Events > CE is honestly one of the most puritanical message board I've ever posted on.

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scar the 1 posted...

Rika_Furude posted...

"let me only ask women who ive determined share my confirmation bias" - scar

Yeah God forbid I ask people who are actually subject to what we're talking about instead of people who aren't. Imagine some guy gets robbed, and then the police dismiss it because they talked to a bunch of other people who didn't get robbed.

yet you still cant provide any evidence, and you have admitted you dont know
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Rika_Furude posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Rika_Furude posted...

"let me only ask women who ive determined share my confirmation bias" - scar

Yeah God forbid I ask people who are actually subject to what we're talking about instead of people who aren't. Imagine some guy gets robbed, and then the police dismiss it because they talked to a bunch of other people who didn't get robbed.

yet you still cant provide any evidence, and you have admitted you dont know

I admitted I don't know how many men do it, yeah. I also don't know how many times I told you to ask your lady friends. Does that mean it didn't happen?
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scar the 1 posted...

Rika_Furude posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Rika_Furude posted...

"let me only ask women who ive determined share my confirmation bias" - scar

Yeah God forbid I ask people who are actually subject to what we're talking about instead of people who aren't. Imagine some guy gets robbed, and then the police dismiss it because they talked to a bunch of other people who didn't get robbed.

yet you still cant provide any evidence, and you have admitted you dont know

I admitted I don't know how many men do it, yeah. I also don't know how many times I told you to ask your lady friends. Does that mean it didn't happen?

it means it doesnt happen nearly as often as you think it does
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Look Rika, I've never once in this topic made an attempt to convince you of anything. I've repeatedly encouraged you to listen to women, because they're the ones who experience these things first hand.
You've consistently tried to discredit my opinion because I don't have any evidence to present to you. It's not going to work. I've heard enough stories from my friends, as well as seen them unfold, as well as seen enough IM conversations to know full well that the phenomenon of "guys who think the world owes them vagina" is common enough that most women get to deal with several ones. If you want to convince me that the number trivially low, you'll need a better argument than "you don't know the exact number" and "you don't have evidence". If you don't have a better argument, your bickering is futile.
Now, if instead what you want is to learn more about often women get to face these kinds of characters, I agree that you'll need evidence. I'm not the person to give that to you. Why repeat the stories I've heard and seen when you won't believe them, and you can easily go ask your own friends, being the well-adjusted guy I'm sure you are? Nothing you've posted here, though, suggests that you have any interest in learning more about this.
The third option is that you're not trying to convince me of anything, and not trying to learn anything about the whole thing, but rather just trying to catch me and pinky and whatever else SJW bogeyman you can find in a gotcha situation where we can't back up our claims. Which brings us back to the beginning; we don't need to back up our claims, because we're not trying to convince you of anything.

Either way, telling me that I'm wrong just because I don't have evidence to present to you is not going to make me unsee the evidence that's been presented to me. I hope you understand, and by all means, seek your own answers by asking women with actual first-hand experience.
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pinky0926 posted...

So many here are a bunch of prudes that hate trends, hate women, hate culture, hate interesting things in general unless they're artsy videogames.

Like what is life to you? Cargo pants and League of Legends and missionary sex for the purpose of procreation? Gonna take a break from grinding and go eat your well done steak with ketchup but no beer because alcohol is for losers? Gonna browse through some instagram models and call them a bunch of ugly low moral hoes? Gonna tell people how their relationships should work even though you're starved off affection?


God damn it CE

https://youtu.be/rYvYjWgPh-k?t=14s
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hockeybub89 posted...

Rika_Furude posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Rika_Furude posted...

Conflict posted...

SJWs didn't create r/The_Donald. The Donald running for president created r/The_Donald.

sjws created trump by being contrarian and hypocritical and then supporting hillary

Do you have any evidence to back this up, or is it just a bias against SJWs?

Yeah, sjws existing caused sane people to see how ridiculous sjws are and made tumblrinaction to ridicule them. Take a look at any post in tumblrinaction and youll see nobody agrees with the sjw who is pointed out in the op

The average sane person doesn't even care what Tumblr is, let alone base their worldview on spiting certain idiots inhabiting it. May a meteor crash into Earth tomorrow if that is why Trump was elected. The world is dumb enough as is.

Yeah, if it weren't for CE and imgur making fun of tumblr all the time, I would have never heard of it.
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scar the 1 posted...

Look Rika, I've never once in this topic made an attempt to convince you of anything. I've repeatedly encouraged you to listen to women, because they're the ones who experience these things first hand.
You've consistently tried to discredit my opinion because I don't have any evidence to present to you. It's not going to work. I've heard enough stories from my friends, as well as seen them unfold, as well as seen enough IM conversations to know full well that the phenomenon of "guys who think the world owes them vagina" is common enough that most women get to deal with several ones. If you want to convince me that the number trivially low, you'll need a better argument than "you don't know the exact number" and "you don't have evidence". If you don't have a better argument, your bickering is futile.
Now, if instead what you want is to learn more about often women get to face these kinds of characters, I agree that you'll need evidence. I'm not the person to give that to you. Why repeat the stories I've heard and seen when you won't believe them, and you can easily go ask your own friends, being the well-adjusted guy I'm sure you are? Nothing you've posted here, though, suggests that you have any interest in learning more about this.
The third option is that you're not trying to convince me of anything, and not trying to learn anything about the whole thing, but rather just trying to catch me and pinky and whatever else SJW bogeyman you can find in a gotcha situation where we can't back up our claims. Which brings us back to the beginning; we don't need to back up our claims, because we're not trying to convince you of anything.

Either way, telling me that I'm wrong just because I don't have evidence to present to you is not going to make me unsee the evidence that's been presented to me. I hope you understand, and by all means, seek your own answers by asking women with actual first-hand experience.

You came in here attempting to defend the ridiculous claims made by pinky. If you are not trying to convince anyone, wtf are you trying to do
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Conflict posted...

Rika_Furude posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Rika_Furude posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Rika_Furude posted...

"let me only ask women who ive determined share my confirmation bias" - scar

Yeah God forbid I ask people who are actually subject to what we're talking about instead of people who aren't. Imagine some guy gets robbed, and then the police dismiss it because they talked to a bunch of other people who didn't get robbed.

yet you still cant provide any evidence, and you have admitted you dont know

I admitted I don't know how many men do it, yeah. I also don't know how many times I told you to ask your lady friends. Does that mean it didn't happen?

it means it doesnt happen nearly as often as you think it does

Can you provide evidence to back up this statement?

In this case, scar and pinkies lack of evidence is sufficient
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Rika_Furude posted...

You came in here attempting to defend the ridiculous claims made by pinky. If you are not trying to convince anyone, wtf are you trying to do

No I came in here ridiculing your demanding evidence to support an obvious hyperbole.
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Why the fuck is anyone arguing with Rika especially when it comes to the dating scene. Dude is more clueless than a wildman that just discovered civilization

Nice guys being douches isn't new and they're definitely more numerous than a few. It's existed since I was in school and they've always been shit on

Axiom posted...

Why the f*** is anyone arguing with Rika especially when it comes to the dating scene. Dude is more clueless than a wildman that just discovered civilization

I dunno what it is with Rika, maybe he just tickles my fancy.
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Axiom posted...

Why the fuck is anyone arguing with Rika especially when it comes to the dating scene. Dude is more clueless than a wildman that just discovered civilization

It's fun
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scar the 1 posted...

Rika_Furude posted...

You came in here attempting to defend the ridiculous claims made by pinky. If you are not trying to convince anyone, wtf are you trying to do

No I came in here ridiculing your demanding evidence to support an obvious hyperbole.

don't pretend what he says has any merit at all then, not even by saying "i support the point he is trying to make"
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Rika is an interesting guy isn't he chaps
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more interesting than a generic sjw who makes wild claims they cant back up, just to virtue signal
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pinky0926 posted...

Rika is an interesting guy isn't he chaps

he certainly lives up to that loli sig with every post
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at least im not a generic sjw leeching off the government like pinky and scar
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oh we're now welfare leechers, that's a new dimension to things isn't it
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This topic taught me one thing: I'm so glad SJW's don't exist in my life the way they do here. I've never met anyone like Pinky, Scar, Say, Kineth, etc.

Is it just the internet that makes them like this?
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_Goggalor_ posted...

This topic taught me one thing: I'm so glad SJW's don't exist in my life the way they do here. I've never met anyone like Pinky, Scar, Say, Kineth, etc.

Is it just the internet that makes them like this?

You're the dude that hates women and wonders why he's single, right?
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pinky0926 posted...

_Goggalor_ posted...

This topic taught me one thing: I'm so glad SJW's don't exist in my life the way they do here. I've never met anyone like Pinky, Scar, Say, Kineth, etc.

Is it just the internet that makes them like this?

You're the dude that hates women and wonders why he's single, right?

No, I don't wonder at all. People like Scar actually make me dislike women more than actual women I meet in my daily life as well with the exception of some straight up bitches I've met.
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_Goggalor_ posted...

No, I don't wonder at all. People like Scar actually make me dislike women more than actual women I meet in my daily life as well with the exception of some straight up bitches I've met.

A poster on a message board affects you that much? Mebbe it's time to take a break from the internet.
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pinky0926 posted...

_Goggalor_ posted...

No, I don't wonder at all. People like Scar actually make me dislike women more than actual women I meet in my daily life as well with the exception of some straight up bitches I've met.

A poster on a message board affects you that much? Mebbe it's time to take a break from the internet.

No, I'm saying if women irl were as annoying as the SJW's here, I would hate women. Since most of the crazies are online, it's not a big deal.
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_Goggalor_ posted...

This topic taught me one thing: I'm so glad SJW's don't exist in my life the way they do here. I've never met anyone like Pinky, Scar, Say, Kineth, etc.

Is it just the internet that makes them like this?

While I am flattered, the only SJW thing I said here was like, "why don't you ask women rather than get third-hand information from us?", which is quite reasonable.
And about me being annoying or whatever, I'm perfectly sure I would be just as annoying regardless of which opinion I happen to sport. And yes, it's probably because I'm online. If someone were spouting as dumb shit as Rika IRL, I would probably just leave. Takes more energy to argue IRL. And I need all my energy to leech off of the government.
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lmfao at goggalor calling anyone else a "crazie"
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_Goggalor_ posted...

No, I'm saying if women irl were as annoying as the SJW's here, I would hate women. Since most of the crazies are online, it's not a big deal.

I'm genuinely curious what you think "sjw" means.
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pinky0926 posted...

_Goggalor_ posted...

No, I'm saying if women irl were as annoying as the SJW's here, I would hate women. Since most of the crazies are online, it's not a big deal.

I'm genuinely curious what you think "sjw" means.

Anyone who is aggressively opposed to reality when it comes to social issues and likes to make a lot of emotional accusations against people/groups. The professionally outraged.
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_Goggalor_ posted...

Anyone who is aggressively opposed to reality when it comes to social issues and likes to make a lot of emotional accusations against people/groups. The professionally outraged.

Which sounds good in theory but in reality you're using it to boogeyman anyone who has even a slightly different moral stance to your own. I mean if you carefully sift through everything I or Scar said you'll find it comes down to "treat women with the same respect and basic human dignity you afford men", but because of the way the internet pidgeonholes argument and removes any nuance to conversation you've thrown us into a pile of the worst kind of delusional trash that wants an end to all white men.

Sjw is a meaningless term now. You get called a "sjw" just for anything approaching criticism of someone's ethics. Almost as if the solution is to resign to chaos, 4chan style.
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Except that's not how either of you present your arguments and you know it.
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_Goggalor_ posted...

Except that's not how either of you present your arguments and you know it.

That's exactly how I present my arguments. For example, if the argument starts with "all women are hoes" then obviously we're not starting at "treat women with the same respect you afford men", are we? It shouldn't be surprising then that I'm calling out people for their treatment of women specifically, and it would be dishonest of you or anyone else to say I'm being a white knight about it.
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Delirious_Beard posted...

lmfao at goggalor calling anyone else a "crazie"

he's right. lmao @ whoever called pinky "well adjusted", he's straight up socially incompetent
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Nah, you're always snide/rude from the get go. Every time you start an argument, people that disagree are neckbeards, losers, mysoginists, maladjusted malcontents, etc. Also hard not to look like a white knight when you're one of only a few posters on that person's side while putting down the others.
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THE RIDE...NEVER ENDS

>:(
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_Goggalor_ posted...

Nah, you're always snide/rude from the get go. Every time you start an argument, people that disagree are neckbeards, losers, mysoginists, maladjusted malcontents, etc. Also hard not to look like a white knight when you're one of only a few posters on that person's side while putting down the others.

There's no need to be polite to someone who starts with a premise like "all women are whores". I won't be shy about that either, I have no interest in pretending to be tolerant of the shit that comes out of shit human beings' mouths.

I don't pretend to be "the tolerant left". I'm very much not tolerant of a lot of things, and believe in tough love.
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pinky0926 posted...

_Goggalor_ posted...

Nah, you're always snide/rude from the get go. Every time you start an argument, people that disagree are neckbeards, losers, mysoginists, maladjusted malcontents, etc. Also hard not to look like a white knight when you're one of only a few posters on that person's side while putting down the others.

There's no need to be polite to someone who starts with a premise like "all women are whores". I won't be shy about that either, I have no interest in pretending to be tolerant of the shit that comes out of shit human beings' mouths.

I don't pretend to be "the tolerant left". I'm very much not tolerant of a lot of things, and believe in tough love.

Likewise, there is no reason to respect someone who deems themselves the arbiter of virtue and is wholly content to lord over those they view as beneath them.
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Being cold and methodical is why many countries are messed up as it is.
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_Goggalor_ posted...

Likewise, there is no reason to respect someone who deems themselves the arbiter of virtue and is wholly content to lord over those they view as beneath them.

Cool, I wasn't asking for your respect. Only the arbiter of my own opinion.
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pinky0926 posted...

_Goggalor_ posted...

Likewise, there is no reason to respect someone who deems themselves the arbiter of virtue and is wholly content to lord over those they view as beneath them.

Cool, I wasn't asking for your respect. Only the arbiter of my own opinion.

I know you weren't, but now you're being dishonest about the way you post. Have fun.
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Conflict posted...

_Goggalor_ posted...

This topic taught me one thing: I'm so glad SJW's don't exist in my life the way they do here. I've never met anyone like Pinky, Scar, Say, Kineth, etc.

Is it just the internet that makes them like this?

I mean if those guys are "SJWs" to you then you're just a baby

"every second man is literally evil and believes the world owes them vagina" is as SJW as you can get. what are you talking about? the only rabbit hole pinky hasn't gone down itt is the "all men are rapists" argument that a lot of SJWs spout, but he's not too far off from that
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_Goggalor_ posted...

Anyone who is aggressively opposed to reality when it comes to social issues and likes to make a lot of emotional accusations against people/groups. The professionally outraged.

Dude. I've made no accusations, zero outrage, and only encouraged Rika to go out into the IRL and find out for himself.
Meanwhile we have someone who sees a perfect opportunity to smite the SJW bogeyman because they can't back up a hyperbole with numbers on the internet. He keeps ignoring that we see the phenomenon first-hand and hear about it from friends and partners, because that's somehow not evidence? So he's not actually interested in any sort of meaningful exchange, just to discredit the oppressive SJW viewpoint.

But I'm the aggressive and outraged one for encouraging him to collect evidence.
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scar the 1 posted...

_Goggalor_ posted...

Anyone who is aggressively opposed to reality when it comes to social issues and likes to make a lot of emotional accusations against people/groups. The professionally outraged.

Dude. I've made no accusations, zero outrage, and only encouraged Rika to go out into the IRL and find out for himself.
Meanwhile we have someone who sees a perfect opportunity to smite the SJW bogeyman because they can't back up a hyperbole with numbers on the internet. He keeps ignoring that we see the phenomenon first-hand and hear about it from friends and partners, because that's somehow not evidence? So he's not actually interested in any sort of meaningful exchange, just to discredit the oppressive SJW viewpoint.

But I'm the aggressive and outraged one for encouraging him to collect evidence.

Well your problem is the burden of proof lies on you, not him. And anecdotal evidence for the kind of statement you made is not enough.
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_Goggalor_ posted...

Well your problem is the burden of proof lies on you, not him. And anecdotal evidence for the kind of statement you made is not enough.

When the anecdotes are so common that everyone I has several, anecdotal evidence is definitely enough for me, but I understand perfectly well that it's not gonna convince anyone else. Which, again, is why I encourage him to gather his own evidence. But he's not interested in that.
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99% of Internet arguments could be avoided if people didn't use hyperbole
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scar the 1 posted...

_Goggalor_ posted...

Well your problem is the burden of proof lies on you, not him. And anecdotal evidence for the kind of statement you made is not enough.

When the anecdotes are so common that everyone I has several, anecdotal evidence is definitely enough for me, but I understand perfectly well that it's not gonna convince anyone else. Which, again, is why I encourage him to gather his own evidence. But he's not interested in that.

Stop. You invalidated your argument in your first sentence. Jesus you're clueless.
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Pineapple pizza
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god forbid a colloquial conversation be allowed
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_Goggalor_ posted...

Stop. You invalidated your argument in your first sentence. Jesus you're clueless.

Hm, so if everyone you know has stories that you can corroborate with what you see first-hand, it's all invalid because you're not able to do a statistical analysis?
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