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legendary_zell 08/02/17 10:50:22 AM #103:	C7D posted... legendary_zell posted... Annihilated posted... It's really satisfying to see the leftist trolls getting triggered by practical egalitarianism. Really shows off their true character. In what sense is this practical egalitarianism? In the present day, the schools the different racial groups attend are not close to equal in funding, teacher quality, safety, class offerings or achievement due to racial and economic segregation and housing based school funding/school assignments. This is due to historical patterns of the same issues. Success in higher education is most closely associated with parental wealth and whether parents went to college, and then the quality of education received. This individualistic, "meritocratic" view is more of a morality play than any type of practicality. Getting rid of AA is literally just rewarding the groups that secured power for themselves over the generations at the expense of the people trying to slowly pull themselves up. I have STILL never heard anyone find a way to meaningfully dispute the footrace analogy without attempting to muddy the waters with "we all have problems" rhetoric. If there is an endless marathon and some runners are beaten and handcuffed for 80 percent of the race, while other racers are allowed to run relatively free is everything "fair" the moment the handcuffs are taken off? Or would thinking that way ignore the obvious effects of the past on the present and ignore the unfair accumulated advantages some have gotten even if they haven't beaten anyone? Wouldn't the only fair thing to do be to give the formerly restrained people at least a tiny boost even though we overall are now committed not help or hinder any groups. And wouldn't calling the race fair be a farce? Well that's why we had AA in the first place. Thank God that isn't universally true. Mom worked in a sewing factory. Dad was a lawn mower mechanic. I attended school at the 94/95th funded county in the lowest funded state in the USA. Now I hold a PhD in chemical engineering. I graduated with a 4.0 GPA. While I am a Caucasian male, I gladly took that minority fellowship. I'm the only one who thought to apply. Yes, you and I both made it, but the race still wasn't even close to fair and that's the real issue. Focusing on individual achievements that have always existed ignores how fucked up the system was. A few people during slavery and Jim Crow made it despite the odds. A few people from Hell town, West Virginia make it. But they are the exception to an unfair rule. --- http://i.imgur.com/0Bi86cp.gif <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:884046346] in Justice De... [t:75628558]...</cite> <quote><cite>C7D posted...</cite> <quote><cite>legendary_zell posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Annihilated posted...</cite> <quote>It's really satisfying to see the leftist trolls getting triggered by practical egalitarianism. Really shows off their true character.</quote> In what sense is this practical egalitarianism? In the present day, the schools the different racial groups attend are not close to equal in funding, teacher quality, safety, class offerings or achievement due to racial and economic segregation and housing based school funding/school assignments. This is due to historical patterns of the same issues. Success in higher education is most closely associated with parental wealth and whether parents went to college, and then the quality of education received. This individualistic, "meritocratic" view is more of a morality play than any type of practicality. Getting rid of AA is literally just rewarding the groups that secured power for themselves over the generations at the expense of the people trying to slowly pull themselves up. I have STILL never heard anyone find a way to meaningfully dispute the footrace analogy without attempting to muddy the waters with "we all have problems" rhetoric. If there is an endless marathon and some runners are beaten and handcuffed for 80 percent of the race, while other racers are allowed to run relatively free is everything "fair" the moment the handcuffs are taken off? Or would thinking that way ignore the obvious effects of the past on the present and ignore the unfair accumulated advantages some have gotten even if they haven't beaten anyone? Wouldn't the only fair thing to do be to give the formerly restrained people at least a tiny boost even though we overall are now committed not help or hinder any groups. And wouldn't calling the race fair be a farce? Well that's why we had AA in the first place.</quote> Thank God that isn't universally true. Mom worked in a sewing factory. Dad was a lawn mower mechanic. I attended school at the 94/95th funded county in the lowest funded state in the USA. Now I hold a PhD in chemical engineering. I graduated with a 4.0 GPA. While I am a Caucasian male, I gladly took that minority fellowship. I'm the only one who thought to apply.</quote> Yes, you and I both made it, but the race still wasn't even close to fair and that's the real issue. Focusing on individual achievements that have always existed ignores how fucked up the system was. A few people during slavery and Jim Crow made it despite the odds. A few people from Hell town, West Virginia make it. But they are the exception to an unfair rule.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
asdf8562 08/02/17 11:57:07 AM #104:	Despite how much they dominate, more tears from certain groups of white people. Look, Im not totally against applications eliminating stuff like the race option. However certain groups of white people need to stop with this victim complex in a world where they literally dominate. <cite>asdf8562 posted [p:884049604] in Justice De... [t:75628558]...</cite> <quote>Despite how much they dominate, more tears from certain groups of white people. Look, Im not totally against applications eliminating stuff like the race option. However certain groups of white people need to stop with this victim complex in a world where they literally dominate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreatEvilEmpire 08/02/17 2:01:40 PM #105:	I like how people gloss over the evidence that it is the Asians, not Whites who are mostly harmed by affirmative action. Yeah, the same minority group that come here as immigrants speaking broken English, but has a strong focus on education. --- Sig under construction! <cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted [p:884056476] in Justice De... [t:75628558]...</cite> <quote>I like how people gloss over the evidence that it is the Asians, not Whites who are mostly harmed by affirmative action. Yeah, the same minority group that come here as immigrants speaking broken English, but has a strong focus on education.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LittleRoyal 08/02/17 2:20:55 PM #106:	GreatEvilEmpire posted... I like how people gloss over the evidence that it is the Asians, not Whites who are mostly harmed by affirmative action. Yeah, the same minority group that come here as immigrants speaking broken English, but has a strong focus on education. Yup I mentioned it because it's awful and stupid That said I don't speak broken English and have a southern drawl withhigh pitched voice, not broken English Asian accents so. --- I-I really needed this~~ Time to stomp some faces!!! <cite>LittleRoyal posted [p:884057505] in Justice De... [t:75628558]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote>I like how people gloss over the evidence that it is the Asians, not Whites who are mostly harmed by affirmative action. Yeah, the same minority group that come here as immigrants speaking broken English, but has a strong focus on education.</quote> Yup I mentioned it because it's awful and stupid That said I don't speak broken English and have a southern drawl withhigh pitched voice, not broken English Asian accents so.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gatorsPENSbucs 08/02/17 2:22:17 PM #107:	Good. Better qualified people shouldn't be dismissed because of their skin color. asdf8562 posted... However certain groups of white people need to stop with this victim complex in a world where they literally dominate. I think dominate is the wrong word to use. Especially here in 2017. --- http://m.imgur.com/BtD5etN?r https://m.imgur.com/a/jclul http://i.imgtc.com/etNW2apANm.jpg <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted [p:884057562] in Justice De... [t:75628558]...</cite> <quote>Good. Better qualified people shouldn't be dismissed because of their skin color. <cite>asdf8562 posted...</cite> <quote>However certain groups of white people need to stop with this victim complex in a world where they literally dominate.</quote> I think dominate is the wrong word to use. Especially here in 2017.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 08/02/17 2:41:06 PM #108:	I mean, in a sense, affirmative action can be reframed in terms of the family income, something like EFC that FAFSA uses. I mean, the primary way in which racism permeates our society and creates an influence on opportunity is through money, and so not only does this prevent the whole "reverse racism" complaint, it will more or less perform the same, as racial inequalities are encoded in economic inequalities anyway. That said, most of the outrage regarding affirmative action is driven by a shitty understanding of our society and the effect of affirmative action in the first place. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:884058683] in Justice De... [t:75628558]...</cite> <quote>I mean, in a sense, affirmative action can be reframed in terms of the family income, something like EFC that FAFSA uses. I mean, the primary way in which racism permeates our society and creates an influence on opportunity is through money, and so not only does this prevent the whole "reverse racism" complaint, it will more or less perform the same, as racial inequalities are encoded in economic inequalities anyway. That said, most of the outrage regarding affirmative action is driven by a shitty understanding of our society and the effect of affirmative action in the first place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
asdf8562 08/02/17 3:34:03 PM #109:	gatorsPENSbucs posted... I think dominate is the wrong word to use. Especially here in 2017. What word would you use? Overall white people control America. Overall they control businesses. Overall they are in a position of power. Like I said, I agree on the taking away race and whatnot option on applications. That is assuming the process to actually be done in that regard and not just a low key work around to exclude certain groups. However the group of white people crying with that victim complex is pathetic and sad. <cite>asdf8562 posted [p:884061632] in Justice De... [t:75628558]...</cite> <quote><cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote>I think dominate is the wrong word to use. Especially here in 2017.</quote> What word would you use? Overall white people control America. Overall they control businesses. Overall they are in a position of power. Like I said, I agree on the taking away race and whatnot option on applications. That is assuming the process to actually be done in that regard and not just a low key work around to exclude certain groups. However the group of white people crying with that victim complex is pathetic and sad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 08/02/17 3:41:04 PM #110:	asdf8562 posted... gatorsPENSbucs posted... I think dominate is the wrong word to use. Especially here in 2017. What word would you use? Overall white people control America. Overall they control businesses. Overall they are in a position of power. Like I said, I agree on the taking away race and whatnot option on applications. That is assuming the process to actually be done in that regard and not just a low key work around to exclude certain groups. However the group of white people crying with that victim complex is pathetic and sad. White people as a categorical group hold more power. White people as a cohesive collective do not. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:884062009] in Justice De... [t:75628558]...</cite> <quote><cite>asdf8562 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote>I think dominate is the wrong word to use. Especially here in 2017.</quote> What word would you use? Overall white people control America. Overall they control businesses. Overall they are in a position of power. Like I said, I agree on the taking away race and whatnot option on applications. That is assuming the process to actually be done in that regard and not just a low key work around to exclude certain groups. However the group of white people crying with that victim complex is pathetic and sad.</quote> White people as a categorical group hold more power. White people as a cohesive collective do not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coolboy11 08/02/17 3:44:18 PM #111:	lol @ seriously thinking colleges are actually Anti White to a large percentage of the Right wing majority until de jure seg. is back they will think damn near everything is anti white bias, these are the same goof offs who often fall upwards while Black folks and non White Latinos/Asians have to have three degrees to make what a mediocre "dude" with a bachelor's can make. --- Sigs are boring <cite>coolboy11 posted [p:884062189] in Justice De... [t:75628558]...</cite> <quote>lol @ seriously thinking colleges are actually Anti White to a large percentage of the Right wing majority until de jure seg. is back they will think damn near everything is anti white bias, these are the same goof offs who often fall upwards while Black folks and non White Latinos/Asians have to have three degrees to make what a mediocre "dude" with a bachelor's can make.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 08/02/17 3:45:30 PM #112:	coolboy11 posted... lol @ seriously thinking colleges are actually Anti White to a large percentage of the Right wing majority until de jure seg. is back they will think damn near everything is anti white bias, these are the same goof offs who often fall upwards while Black folks and non White Latinos/Asians have to have three degrees to make what a mediocre "dude" with a bachelor's can make. Asians are even more penalized under affirmative action than white people are......... --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:884062263] in Justice De... [t:75628558]...</cite> <quote><cite>coolboy11 posted...</cite> <quote>lol @ seriously thinking colleges are actually Anti White to a large percentage of the Right wing majority until de jure seg. is back they will think damn near everything is anti white bias, these are the same goof offs who often fall upwards while Black folks and non White Latinos/Asians have to have three degrees to make what a mediocre "dude" with a bachelor's can make.</quote> Asians are even more penalized under affirmative action than white people are.........</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coolboy11 08/02/17 3:51:10 PM #113:	Sephiroth1288 posted... coolboy11 posted... lol @ seriously thinking colleges are actually Anti White to a large percentage of the Right wing majority until de jure seg. is back they will think damn near everything is anti white bias, these are the same goof offs who often fall upwards while Black folks and non White Latinos/Asians have to have three degrees to make what a mediocre "dude" with a bachelor's can make. Asians are even more penalized under affirmative action than white people are......... "Asians" are not a collective, South and East Asians also do not hold a monopoly on the claim to the term, secondly "Asians" who do not hold advanced degrees are also very heavily discriminated against in the job market as a collective. third AA has largely been dismantled anyway. fourth it is white women who are the biggest benefactor of AA historically anyway, fifth Blacks and Natives have been the most shut out of the job market/college market historically in the first god damned place so yes of the races they should be the most favored. --- Sigs are boring <cite>coolboy11 posted [p:884062571] in Justice De... [t:75628558]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>coolboy11 posted...</cite> <quote>lol @ seriously thinking colleges are actually Anti White to a large percentage of the Right wing majority until de jure seg. is back they will think damn near everything is anti white bias, these are the same goof offs who often fall upwards while Black folks and non White Latinos/Asians have to have three degrees to make what a mediocre "dude" with a bachelor's can make.</quote> Asians are even more penalized under affirmative action than white people are.........</quote> "Asians" are not a collective, South and East Asians also do not hold a monopoly on the claim to the term, secondly "Asians" who do not hold advanced degrees are also very heavily discriminated against in the job market as a collective. third AA has largely been dismantled anyway. fourth it is white women who are the biggest benefactor of AA historically anyway, fifth Blacks and Natives have been the most shut out of the job market/college market historically in the first god damned place so yes of the races they should be the most favored.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 08/02/17 3:54:40 PM #114:	coolboy11 posted... "Asians" are not a collective, South and East Asians also do not hold a monopoly on the claim to the term, Irrelevant. Asians get penalized more than white people do on college admissions thanks to AA. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:884062780] in Justice De... [t:75628558]...</cite> <quote><cite>coolboy11 posted...</cite> <quote>"Asians" are not a collective, South and East Asians also do not hold a monopoly on the claim to the term, </quote> Irrelevant. Asians get penalized more than white people do on college admissions thanks to AA.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 08/02/17 4:02:39 PM #115:	coolboy11 posted... lol @ seriously thinking colleges are actually Anti White to a large percentage of the Right wing majority until de jure seg. is back they will think damn near everything is anti white bias, these are the same goof offs who often fall upwards while Black folks and non White Latinos/Asians have to have three degrees to make what a mediocre "dude" with a bachelor's can make. If anybody wanted to see what a persecution complex was, here's one. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:884063231] in Justice De... [t:75628558]...</cite> <quote><cite>coolboy11 posted...</cite> <quote>lol @ seriously thinking colleges are actually Anti White to a large percentage of the Right wing majority until de jure seg. is back they will think damn near everything is anti white bias, these are the same goof offs who often fall upwards while Black folks and non White Latinos/Asians have to have three degrees to make what a mediocre "dude" with a bachelor's can make.</quote> If anybody wanted to see what a persecution complex was, here's one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Terra-enforcer 08/02/17 5:23:44 PM #116:	Feels like a lot of people itt are either "happy" even though this will not and would not have in any way affected them (so wtf), or they misunderstand how affirmative action works. It's not like it's on a daily basis that a hispanic kid with a 2.0 GPA gets accepted over a white kid with a 4.0 and honors. You guys are exaggerating super hard here. Especially when a lot of universities are still sticklers even with AA. The Pharmacy school I applied to wouldn't even look at my ass if I had below a 3.0 GPA or too low of an MCAT score, even though I'm black. And this isn't even one of the top Pharm schools in the country (top 20 iirc). I'd imagine higher ranked colleges would be even tougher. Same with many undergrad schools. There is a disparity but it's not nearly as big as most of you imply. Especially since in a vast majority of colleges, the acceptance of white males over other races is by FAR and away exceedingly more than that of any other race/gender even with AA. Also up one for the Asian American topic. Gotta love how the people cheering about the loss of AA play the victim card without even looking at the damn facts. But I almost forgot, this is also the same board that believes white males are the most persecuted race in America. Can't fucking lol enough at that still. --- Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-3032-7898-9500 http://psnprofiles.com/Terraforce777 http://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Rayquaza487 <cite>Terra-enforcer posted [p:884067784] in Justice De... [t:75628558]...</cite> <quote>Feels like a lot of people itt are either "happy" even though this will not and would not have in any way affected them (so wtf), or they misunderstand how affirmative action works. It's not like it's on a daily basis that a hispanic kid with a 2.0 GPA gets accepted over a white kid with a 4.0 and honors. You guys are exaggerating super hard here. Especially when a lot of universities are still sticklers even with AA. The Pharmacy school I applied to wouldn't even look at my ass if I had below a 3.0 GPA or too low of an MCAT score, even though I'm black. And this isn't even one of the top Pharm schools in the country (top 20 iirc). I'd imagine higher ranked colleges would be even tougher. Same with many undergrad schools. There is a disparity but it's not nearly as big as most of you imply. Especially since in a vast majority of colleges, the acceptance of white males over other races is by FAR and away exceedingly more than that of any other race/gender even with AA. Also up one for the Asian American topic. Gotta love how the people cheering about the loss of AA play the victim card without even looking at the damn facts. But I almost forgot, this is also the same board that believes white males are the most persecuted race in America. Can't fucking lol enough at that still.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LittleRoyal 08/02/17 5:35:28 PM #117:	I'm Asian it would have helped me lol --- I-I really needed this~~ Time to stomp some faces!!! <cite>LittleRoyal posted [p:884068359] in Justice De... [t:75628558]...</cite> <quote>I'm Asian it would have helped me lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
asdf8562 08/02/17 7:16:38 PM #118:	weapon_d00d816 posted... asdf8562 posted... gatorsPENSbucs posted... I think dominate is the wrong word to use. Especially here in 2017. What word would you use? Overall white people control America. Overall they control businesses. Overall they are in a position of power. Like I said, I agree on the taking away race and whatnot option on applications. That is assuming the process to actually be done in that regard and not just a low key work around to exclude certain groups. However the group of white people crying with that victim complex is pathetic and sad. White people as a categorical group hold more power. White people as a cohesive collective do not. Thats irrelevant to what I said which is overall. Regardless if ALL white people dont hold power, white people still overall control most of America. White people as of now hold more power generally across the board. So theres no excuse to this victim complex coming from certain white people. Acting like white people are sooooo targeted by in America and them being white is suuuch a curse in America. They can throw as much sprinkles and sugar coating on it. Its literally crying their race doesnt hold as much power as they use to by sheer default. For example just the fact that a black man was in the white house appalled many and that Trump a white man, was giving the white men their security that things were back in order. And thats where I stand on the matter which is aside from the application issue. Application issue I happen to agree on letting it be merit based and getting rid of the race/gender option. <cite>asdf8562 posted [p:884073874] in Justice De... [t:75628558]...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>asdf8562 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote>I think dominate is the wrong word to use. Especially here in 2017.</quote> What word would you use? Overall white people control America. Overall they control businesses. Overall they are in a position of power. Like I said, I agree on the taking away race and whatnot option on applications. That is assuming the process to actually be done in that regard and not just a low key work around to exclude certain groups. However the group of white people crying with that victim complex is pathetic and sad.</quote> White people as a categorical group hold more power. White people as a cohesive collective do not.</quote> Thats irrelevant to what I said which is overall. Regardless if ALL white people dont hold power, white people still overall control most of America. White people as of now hold more power generally across the board. So theres no excuse to this victim complex coming from certain white people. Acting like white people are sooooo targeted by in America and them being white is suuuch a curse in America. They can throw as much sprinkles and sugar coating on it. Its literally crying their race doesnt hold as much power as they use to by sheer default. For example just the fact that a black man was in the white house appalled many and that Trump a white man, was giving the white men their security that things were back in order. And thats where I stand on the matter which is aside from the application issue. Application issue I happen to agree on letting it be merit based and getting rid of the race/gender option.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 08/02/17 8:39:15 PM #119:	asdf8562 posted... Thats irrelevant to what I said which is overall. Regardless if ALL white people dont hold power, white people still overall control most of America. White people as of now hold more power generally across the board. Ok, so why should a white person who has no power be penalized when trying to get i to college? --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:884078537] in Justice De... [t:75628558]...</cite> <quote><cite>asdf8562 posted...</cite> <quote>Thats irrelevant to what I said which is overall. Regardless if ALL white people dont hold power, white people still overall control most of America. White people as of now hold more power generally across the board. </quote> Ok, so why should a white person who has no power be penalized when trying to get i to college?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
asdf8562 08/03/17 6:52:07 AM #120:	Sephiroth1288 posted... asdf8562 posted... Thats irrelevant to what I said which is overall. Regardless if ALL white people dont hold power, white people still overall control most of America. White people as of now hold more power generally across the board. Ok, so why should a white person who has no power be penalized when trying to get i to college? Try reading an entire post before replying. That was literally never said and you would kniw that if you read the entire post. This idea that white males are the most persecuted group in America...going off on this victim complex is rediculous, hilarious and more importantly incorrect. <cite>asdf8562 posted [p:884100624] in Justice De... [t:75628558]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>asdf8562 posted...</cite> <quote>Thats irrelevant to what I said which is overall. Regardless if ALL white people dont hold power, white people still overall control most of America. White people as of now hold more power generally across the board. </quote> Ok, so why should a white person who has no power be penalized when trying to get i to college?</quote> Try reading an entire post before replying. That was literally never said and you would kniw that if you read the entire post. This idea that white males are the most persecuted group in America...going off on this victim complex is rediculous, hilarious and more importantly incorrect.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheFuzz3451 08/03/17 7:48:12 AM #121:	Butterfiles posted... hopefully they look at legacy admissions as well hahahahaha that's not what snowflake conservatives are worried about :) --- You're only as sick as your secrets, but the truth shall set you free. The truth is the truth, so all you can do is live with it. <cite>TheFuzz3451 posted [p:884101780] in Justice De... [t:75628558]...</cite> <quote><cite>Butterfiles posted...</cite> <quote>hopefully they look at legacy admissions as well</quote> hahahahaha that's not what snowflake conservatives are worried about :)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 08/03/17 12:08:29 PM #122:	TheFuzz3451 posted... Butterfiles posted... hopefully they look at legacy admissions as well hahahahaha that's not what snowflake conservatives are worried about :) Because legacy admissions don't discriminate based on your plumbing or skin color? --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:884111652] in Justice De... [t:75628558]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheFuzz3451 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Butterfiles posted...</cite> <quote>hopefully they look at legacy admissions as well</quote> hahahahaha that's not what snowflake conservatives are worried about :)</quote> Because legacy admissions don't discriminate based on your plumbing or skin color?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 08/03/17 12:25:28 PM #123:	Sephiroth1288 posted... TheFuzz3451 posted... Butterfiles posted... hopefully they look at legacy admissions as well hahahahaha that's not what snowflake conservatives are worried about :) Because legacy admissions don't discriminate based on your plumbing or skin color? How don't they when people of certain classes and races weren't allowed in those schools? You can't be a legacy unless previous generations were allowed there. --- http://i.imgur.com/0Bi86cp.gif <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:884112533] in Justice De... [t:75628558]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheFuzz3451 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Butterfiles posted...</cite> <quote>hopefully they look at legacy admissions as well</quote> hahahahaha that's not what snowflake conservatives are worried about :)</quote> Because legacy admissions don't discriminate based on your plumbing or skin color?</quote> How don't they when people of certain classes and races weren't allowed in those schools? You can't be a legacy unless previous generations were allowed there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
k darkfire 08/03/17 12:31:53 PM #124:	Good. Whites have an unfair disadvantage in virtually all walks of life and this is a great start at bucking an unfair program. <cite>k darkfire posted [p:884112919] in Justice De... [t:75628558]...</cite> <quote>Good. Whites have an unfair disadvantage in virtually all walks of life and this is a great start at bucking an unfair program.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 08/03/17 12:31:54 PM #125:	legendary_zell posted... How don't they when people of certain classes and races weren't allowed in those schools? There's plenty of minority representation in Ivy League schools now. Are we still in the 70's according to you? --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:884112921] in Justice De... [t:75628558]...</cite> <quote><cite>legendary_zell posted...</cite> <quote>How don't they when people of certain classes and races weren't allowed in those schools?</quote> There's plenty of minority representation in Ivy League schools now. Are we still in the 70's according to you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 08/03/17 1:13:46 PM #126:	Sephiroth1288 posted... legendary_zell posted... How don't they when people of certain classes and races weren't allowed in those schools? There's plenty of minority representation in Ivy League schools now. Are we still in the 70's according to you? What are you on about? I'm talking about legacy admissions, not the present. Legacy admissions are based on legacies, as in the past. Who was at the school previously. Certain groups weren't allowed previously because of their race. Therefore legacy admissions necessarily discriminate against those races. They weren't allowed to build legacies. --- http://i.imgur.com/0Bi86cp.gif <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:884115284] in Justice De... [t:75628558]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>legendary_zell posted...</cite> <quote>How don't they when people of certain classes and races weren't allowed in those schools?</quote> There's plenty of minority representation in Ivy League schools now. Are we still in the 70's according to you?</quote> What are you on about? I'm talking about legacy admissions, not the present. Legacy admissions are based on legacies, as in the past. Who was at the school previously. Certain groups weren't allowed previously because of their race. Therefore legacy admissions necessarily discriminate against those races. They weren't allowed to build legacies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 08/03/17 1:57:09 PM #127:	legendary_zell posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... legendary_zell posted... How don't they when people of certain classes and races weren't allowed in those schools? There's plenty of minority representation in Ivy League schools now. Are we still in the 70's according to you? What are you on about? I'm talking about legacy admissions, not the present. Legacy admissions are based on legacies, as in the past. Who was at the school previously. Certain groups weren't allowed previously because of their race. Therefore legacy admissions necessarily discriminate against those races. They weren't allowed to build legacies. And now that there are plenty of minorities in ivy leagues, their kids will have legacy admission opportunities like all the white kids do. So what's the issue here --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:884117656] in Justice De... [t:75628558]...</cite> <quote><cite>legendary_zell posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>legendary_zell posted...</cite> <quote>How don't they when people of certain classes and races weren't allowed in those schools?</quote> There's plenty of minority representation in Ivy League schools now. Are we still in the 70's according to you?</quote> What are you on about? I'm talking about legacy admissions, not the present. Legacy admissions are based on legacies, as in the past. Who was at the school previously. Certain groups weren't allowed previously because of their race. Therefore legacy admissions necessarily discriminate against those races. They weren't allowed to build legacies.</quote> And now that there are plenty of minorities in ivy leagues, their kids will have legacy admission opportunities like all the white kids do. So what's the issue here</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 08/03/17 2:04:42 PM #128:	Now we are talking about the present. Legacy admissions currently still discriminate against blacks and Hispanics. Many schools still have significant under-representation of these groups. But even assuming they didn't and we're only talking about schools with adequate representation, legacy admissions won't even begin to equalize until the kids of the kids currently in school are applying to college themselves. --- http://i.imgur.com/0Bi86cp.gif <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:884118052] in Justice De... [t:75628558]...</cite> <quote>Now we are talking about the present. Legacy admissions currently still discriminate against blacks and Hispanics. Many schools still have significant under-representation of these groups. But even assuming they didn't and we're only talking about schools with adequate representation, legacy admissions won't even begin to equalize until the kids of the kids currently in school are applying to college themselves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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