Board 8 > That doomfist guy came out on Overwatch today

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My game has not been saving Highlights

not even potgs

only when I manually do it


has this been happening to anyone else?
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Roadhog has changes coming, but they won't be a revert. Current testing plans are both moving and a 50% damage reduction while drinking, which certainly pushed him to his role as Tank.

They've got to do something because he just straight up isn't fun to play anymore, as someone with almost 100 hours on Hog. He has fallen to the bottom of the playtime list overall in both Comp AND QP, so it's not just a meta viability thing. Even if they buff his defense up I'm probably done playing him for good.

On the other hand, Junkrat has huge buffs incoming, so maybe he'll make it back to my #1 played again.
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Blizzard intentionally overbalances things all the time to change up the meta. They pretend the changes are genuinely making the game more balanced, but they know exactly what they're doing, ever since WoW.
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Apparently after you rollover your levels, the xp stays the same. I was told the levels would be easy to get like your first time around

guess my coworker was wrong
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Punnyz posted...

Apparently after you rollover your levels, the xp stays the same. I was told the levels would be easy to get like your first time around

guess my coworker was wrong

They changed that like half a year ago.
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Got a PotG as Doomfist woo. Only one I need to do now is Ana which feels impossible. Doomfist's trophies seem hard to get too

Wow, Doomfist's abilities have such low cooldowns you can almost combo them indefinitely and one is even a one-hit kill move against quite a few characters. Get the feeling he might be nerfed a little in the near future. His charge is basically way better than Reinhardt's with like half the cooldown imo

hes either the best in a round or the worst

I always get the idiots that are horrible with him
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Well on console at least he has only been out since Thursday so not everybody knows how to use him yet. He gets obliterated when his abilities are all on cooldown or he gets hacked. Honestly the only characters who have it worse when hacked are Zenyatta and Reinhardt.

August 8th the Summer Games are back. Previous SG skins can be bought for 1,000 coins

i just want the hurdle highlight intro
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I like tracer's runner outfit
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I plan on getting everything I missed and all of the new items too. Can't wait for Halloween to return so I can do the same. I think I got all the stuff from other events.

digiiiiiiiii posted...

it makes no sense, roadhog's small clip and long reload time, plus the hook nerf, made him incredibly well-balanced. they claimed they wanted to eliminate "one shots" but that's the whole point of the hook and he has a lot of negatives that balance that out. there are still some serious one-shots, like, as you mentioned, hanzo. and he can do that about as often as roadhog hooks, and hell, his requires less aiming.

i disagree that that one shots are the point of the hook. the point of the hook is to pull people out of position. i think it's better for the game to require a bit of teamwork to instantly kill someone that gets hooked rather than Roadhog being able to just solo kill most people instantly by himself so easily.
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He should be able to punish players though and now he can't because he feels like he has Winston level dps

Roadhog's instant-kill hook combos were very very not fun for anyone except Roadhog. You can avoid them to an extent but it's equally as easy to get blindsided by them in a way that leaves very little counterplay in return. Arguments like 'Hanzo's Split Arrow can one-shot people too' don't hold water because Split Arrow is probably the worst ability in the game from a game design standpoint and it deserves to be changed too.

As far as Widowmaker goes, the game is horrible whenever she's remotely decent. She's antithetical to Overwatch's entire design philosophy. You can't change her because there's a large subset of people that will only ever play snipers in any game they can, but the next-best thing is to keep her as unpopular as possible.
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I can't imagine bitch ass roadhog having a ohko


fuck that, hes already hard enough to take down as it is!
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KamikazePotato posted...

Roadhog's instant-kill hook combos were very very not fun for anyone except Roadhog.

That may be true, but Roadhog is so bad now there is no reason to even pick him. You can't hook and kill anybody anymore and that was his entire kit! Without it he's just a huge target for enemy ult charging. His reload is slow as shit and his damage nerf on top of it is just terrible. I don't think this damage reduction buff when he heals is going to help much either. I mean he's basically entirely different now in a terrible way like if Tracer had her recall and blink removed

i haven't been playing this for a while except for a couple of matches to try out doomfist.

roadhog can still one-shot real squishy heroes with the usual combo iirc. the nerf to his gun damage is good since he now actually has to sync up with his team to be a terror unlike going off on his own and solo-ing every single hero. the hook should still be a death sentence most of the time anyway if you're positioned close to your team, as smart teammates would learn to just immediately focus fire whoever you hook. as far as i know, being out of position is what gets you killed most of the time in overwatch, and that's what the hook is for, pulling enemies out of position.

the change to take a breather sounds terrifying actually. since outside of a d.va ult or the entire enemy team focus firing him, the 50% damage reduction buff basically makes him invincible while moving. he won't be an easy target with the movement, and the damage reduction also reduces whatever ult charge you get from shooting him by half too. he'll actually be more like a tank now too since he can use it to get up close to an enemy team more confidently, absorbing damage to get a good hook.
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He has a ton of health, can heal himself, and shotguns are inherently anti tank, and oh yeah he has a hook so he can pull people out of position and into his team. To say one shotting people was his entire kit is absurd.

I completely agree he's bad *right now* but that doesn't mean the correct design decision is for him to be able to one shot people to be good. I think the ideal design for him is that he's good at disrupting enemy team dynamics, is difficult to kill, and is good at killing tanks.
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CoolCly posted...

He has a ton of health, can heal himself, and shotguns are inherently anti tank, and oh yeah he has a hook so he can pull people out of position and into his team. To say one shotting people was his entire kit is absurd.

I completely agree he's bad *right now* but that doesn't mean the correct design decision is for him to be able to one shot people to be good. I think the ideal design for him is that he's good at disrupting enemy team dynamics, is difficult to kill, and is good at killing tanks.

This exactly. Buff him so he's good again without having to rely on the stupid hook propping up his entire kit.
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He might just need some armor straight up.
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What's wrong with him 1v1ing a lot of the cast? A couple other characters can too and they weren't turbo nerfed. Maybe he's not completely awful in Comp where people are always together and communicating, but in QP he is straight up garbage now.

Oh yeah and now another character can completely stop his ultimate too. Doomfist and it isn't hard at all to charge a target as massive as Roadhog.

I hooked a Sombra and shot her, but she was able to teleport away. I did the same to a Soldier and he just sprinted away. Also hooked a Mercy and she guardian angel'd away. This is so fucking bad it's almost funny

no he's literally trash at all ranks

2nd lowest pick rate (only above bastion), worst win rate

he's a giant ult charge battery for the enemy team and that's it.

he's not even good in a meta that he's specifically designed to counter
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Attack Hanamura and I get stuck with Hanzo, Widow and Bastion. Naturally we lost and gold objective time was literally 10-11 seconds (me as Winston). Enemy had Torb/Sym, Mercy, Hanzo/Widow and Orisa. It's like some people literally don't even want to stand a chance of winning. Starting to remember why I took a break from this game

One good thing I can say about Roadhog is that I've seen him clutch lots of 3v3 Elimination games
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I have picked Roadhog a lot today. Don't think I won a single match where I picked him not counting ones where I did and then switched to somebody else.

XFD these two guys were on mic and randomly talking about DBZ. I was Winston and was beasting on both points and they said I went Super Saiyan. It was pretty amusing.

swordz9 posted...

What's wrong with him 1v1ing a lot of the cast?

What Roadhog used to do wasn't to 1 v 1 - it was to assassinate. It was equivalent to being headshot by a Widowmaker except it was much easier to pull off. You'd be randomly pulled into death and in many situations there little counterplay to it. You could try to position yourself and take cover, sure, but that Rein shield is going to go down eventually and half the time Roadhogs just flanked to get around stuff like that anyway.

I think the fact that Roadhog turned to garbage the second you nerfed his hook combo shows how busted his design philosophy was. It was such an overpowering move that the rest of Roadhog needed to be crap for him to be balanced overall. Making him tankier during his self-heal is a good first step towards pushing him into a healthier role that actually fits his classification of Tank.
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The real question is why the hell was Roadhog classified as a a Tank when he didn't fill any kind of Tank role.
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If this is how Roadhog is going to stay pretty sure I will never play him again aside from whenever Mystery Heroes picks him for me. Way too many characters do what little he has now and they do it way better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnCyRGTopng

Sucks Oracle and I lost both matches. I was doing so damn good with Pharah.

They already said they're going to be buffing Roadhog. If you're hoping for his old hook combo, though, I wouldn't hold your breath.
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might as well just rework him altogether

and rename him

cause he isn't gonna be good with that pea shooter you want to call a shotgun
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If they increase his defensive capabilities and make him less of an assassin and more of a frontliner who soaks up tons of damage and uses his hook to displace enemies (if his allies follow up on the hook then most enemies are going to be screwed regardless), then he would probably be quite good. Just not in the way people are used to him being good.
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I think he needs attack power more than defensive buffs. I mean if you want something to soak up damage I'd pick D.Va, Reinhardt or Orisa before I'd ever pick Roadhog. His dps is so garbage now I wouldn't even want to soak up damage as him with that unless a healer was glued to me

swordz9 posted...

I mean if you want something to soak up damage I'd pick D.Va, Reinhardt or Orisa before I'd ever pick Roadhog.

Which is why they're changing him to fit his role as a tank better. Character-based multiplayer games do this all the time when necessary.
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Roadhog going more defensive just means I won't play him anymore. Not really why I go to him. He's really boring if you aren't getting hook kills, and making him "better" by making him more defensive still isn't going to make him more "fun".

Like, when the hook is on cooldown, Roadhog is basically no different to me than not even playing the game. Totally worthless.
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KamikazePotato posted...

swordz9 posted...

I mean if you want something to soak up damage I'd pick D.Va, Reinhardt or Orisa before I'd ever pick Roadhog.

Which is why they're changing him to fit his role as a tank better. Character-based multiplayer games do this all the time when necessary.

That doesn't fix his current problem of shit tier attack though

A shotgun that doesn't have high burst damage is pretty much by definition the most boring weapon that can be in an FPS.
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so I got a bunch of awesome highlights tonight

Rifle butting Junkrat's tire and saving myself

getting Soldier's pixel sticker

and making a basket with Soldier


then a fucking god damn piece of shit patch just randomly kicked in and it erased everything because I didn't record it yet

FUCK

FUCK YOU
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LapisLazuli posted...

Roadhog going more defensive just means I won't play him anymore

Then you won't play him anymore. Overall game health trumps the desires of individual players for a character. Like I said, there's a reason they keep Widow in such an undertuned state.
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I'd be surprised if his pick rate gets any better after the buff. It just really sounds like there's no reason to use him anymore.

Also already at 40/57 items for Doomfist and it hasn't even been a week. I love the new loot boxes.

It will get better after people realize that a tanky frontliner who can pull enemies into his team is extremely valuable. He'll transition from being an assassin getting kills on his own to a tank setting up easy kills for his team. No other tank can do that without ulting. It's doubtful that he'll ever be as popular as he was - Offense is the most popular class and Roadhog was an Offense hero in disguise. He'll still find a strong niche over time if they buff him in the correct ways.
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I Feel like KP has said the same thing dozens of times already

the roadhog you liked was broken and wasn't supposed to be that way

get over it already
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Punnyz posted...

I Feel like KP has said the same thing dozens of times already

the roadhog you liked was broken and wasn't supposed to be that way

get over it already

The new Roadhog is a completely different kind of broken

He's not broken. Broken means a playstyle that is unhealthy for the game. Roadhog is weak and can easily be fixed with buffs which are coming soon this isn't hard to understaaaand
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It doesn't matter how good a character is if it's boring. My playtime has dropped over 50% since they ruined Hog.
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