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ThePrinceFish 07/27/17 3:15:24 AM #102:	hockeybub89 posted... The military may help create a lot of technology, but they are behind the times culturally. Who would have thought that an organization whose purpose is killing people and threatening to kill people would be behind the times culturally in 2017. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:883678273] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>The military may help create a lot of technology, but they are behind the times culturally.</quote> Who would have thought that an organization whose purpose is killing people and threatening to kill people would be behind the times culturally in 2017.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
faizan_faizan 07/27/17 3:24:31 AM #103:	ThePrinceFish posted... hockeybub89 posted... The military may help create a lot of technology, but they are behind the times culturally. Who would have thought that an organization whose purpose is killing people and threatening to kill people would be behind the times culturally in 2017. So countries don't need to defend themselves? --- Allergic to bull****. <cite>faizan_faizan posted [p:883678489] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>The military may help create a lot of technology, but they are behind the times culturally.</quote> Who would have thought that an organization whose purpose is killing people and threatening to kill people would be behind the times culturally in 2017.</quote> So countries don't need to defend themselves?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClockworkHare 07/27/17 3:27:27 AM #104:	LittleRoyal posted... Shorties lmao am I right What surprised me was the list including anyone over 6'7". No giants aloud. --- Bite me like one of your French rolls. http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2017/06/05/flcnpawn.png http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2017/06/05/84543589.gif <cite>ClockworkHare posted [p:883678545] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>LittleRoyal posted...</cite> <quote>Shorties lmao am I right</quote> What surprised me was the list including anyone over 6'7". No giants aloud.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 07/27/17 3:42:29 AM #105:	thronedfire2 posted... --kresnik-- posted... Kim Kusanagi posted... Mal_Fet posted... How about you try to spin letting trans people into military service into a good thing first, explain why you paradoxically don't think people with depression should serve, ITSP (in this shitpost): Mal argues that trans people and depressed people are the same thing. Lol sounds to me like you just don't want to answer his question Maybe people with diagnosed depression shouldn't be handling weapons? Not all trans people are suffering from depression, and if they are the depression is what should disqualify them, not their gender Why do you think a lot of people say normal citizens should have to pass a mental health check to buy a gun? --- No one gets in the way of my frisbee games! NO ONE! <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:883678872] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>thronedfire2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>--kresnik-- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kim Kusanagi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>How about you try to spin letting trans people into military service into a good thing first, explain why you paradoxically don't think people with depression should serve,</quote> ITSP (in this shitpost): Mal argues that trans people and depressed people are the same thing.</quote> Lol sounds to me like you just don't want to answer his question</quote> Maybe people with diagnosed depression shouldn't be handling weapons? Not all trans people are suffering from depression, and if they are the depression is what should disqualify them, not their gender Why do you think a lot of people say normal citizens should have to pass a mental health check to buy a gun?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/27/17 4:31:48 AM #106:	hockeybub89 posted... The grounds that this is 2017 and we have the medical knowledge to not consider millions of people incapable for not being born "normal". There are surgeries, medications, all kinds of therapies than can help us overcome our shortcomings. Medications rarely cure mental disorders. In fact it's entirely possible medication can give you other, marginally less desirable traits. If you were in the military, would you prefer your life depended on someone with chronic depression, or someone who has a cool head and no abnormal mental conditions whatsoever? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:883679934] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>The grounds that this is 2017 and we have the medical knowledge to not consider millions of people incapable for not being born "normal". There are surgeries, medications, all kinds of therapies than can help us overcome our shortcomings.</quote> Medications rarely cure mental disorders. In fact it's entirely possible medication can give you other, marginally less desirable traits. If you were in the military, would you prefer your life depended on someone with chronic depression, or someone who has a cool head and no abnormal mental conditions whatsoever?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KobeSystem 07/27/17 4:45:24 AM #107:	Mal_Fet posted... StarReaper13 posted... Even then, the reason they wanted to use in order to prevent transgender people from serving was that they wanted to save money by not paying for their surgeries. They simply could have just made that rule and call it a day, but instead chose to ban them outright showing their true colors. They ban people for being too short/tall because of the extra expense for having differently-sized uniforms. Take your persecution complex and shove it. So you're heightist too smh --- http://www.last.fm/user/KobeSystem92 \| https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/725087214401671170/02UGgybe_400x400.jpg WIN SEXANGELS GREATKERZ <cite>KobeSystem posted [p:883680178] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StarReaper13 posted...</cite> <quote>Even then, the reason they wanted to use in order to prevent transgender people from serving was that they wanted to save money by not paying for their surgeries. They simply could have just made that rule and call it a day, but instead chose to ban them outright showing their true colors.</quote> They ban people for being too short/tall because of the extra expense for having differently-sized uniforms. Take your persecution complex and shove it.</quote> So you're heightist too smh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 07/27/17 9:51:47 AM #108:	OctilIery posted... You didn't put being transgender on the list. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:883687552] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>You didn't put being transgender on the list.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MasterMacLeod 07/27/17 10:29:27 AM #109:	Mal_Fet posted... hockeybub89 posted... I care about all those. Imagine how much less they would have to worry about recruiting if they welcomed these people in. Their healthcare is a drop in the bucket of the military budget Fact is, there is no right to be in the military. Nobody, not even the most regressive leftist, would say military service is a human right. It is in everyone's best interest for the military to be as effective as possible. So on what grounds could you possibly say the military would be better off when the lives of others are depebdant on a person who is has a high likelihood of being mentally unstable? The right of the pursuit of happiness <cite>MasterMacLeod posted [p:883689224] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>I care about all those. Imagine how much less they would have to worry about recruiting if they welcomed these people in. Their healthcare is a drop in the bucket of the military budget</quote> Fact is, there is no right to be in the military. Nobody, not even the most regressive leftist, would say military service is a human right. It is in everyone's best interest for the military to be as effective as possible. So on what grounds could you possibly say the military would be better off when the lives of others are depebdant on a person who is has a high likelihood of being mentally unstable?</quote> The right of the pursuit of happiness</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/27/17 11:13:14 AM #110:	OctilIery posted... You didn't put being transgender on the list. Already walked the other simps through this Any history or current psychosexual conditions, including, but not limited to transsexualism, exhibitionism, transvestism, voyeurism, and other paraphilias, are disqualifying. A little slow on the uptake, aren't ya @OctilIery --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:883691359] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>You didn't put being transgender on the list.</quote> Already walked the other simps through this <quote> Any history or current psychosexual conditions, including, but not limited to transsexualism, exhibitionism, transvestism, voyeurism, and other paraphilias, are disqualifying.</quote> A little slow on the uptake, aren't ya @OctilIery</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MasterMacLeod 07/27/17 11:14:21 AM #111:	You were already told that only with a waiver. <cite>MasterMacLeod posted [p:883691419] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote>You were already told that only with a waiver.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 07/27/17 11:33:13 AM #113:	Bullet_Wing posted... Apparently Mattis himself is appalled by the ban and was on vacation. Didn't you say he was the idea master behind it, TC? http://www.businessinsider.com/mattis-vacation-appaulled-trump-trans-ban-2017-7 Mattis was against transgenders serving from the beginning. All this says is he didn't like how abruptly it was rolled out. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:883692344] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote>Apparently Mattis himself is appalled by the ban and was on vacation. Didn't you say he was the idea master behind it, TC? http://www.businessinsider.com/mattis-vacation-appaulled-trump-trans-ban-2017-7</quote> Mattis was against transgenders serving from the beginning. All this says is he didn't like how abruptly it was rolled out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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prettyprincess 07/27/17 12:05:52 PM #115:	Mal_Fet posted... https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem There ya go, champs ;) Mal_Fet posted... Mattis is a better patriot than you are, and smarter by a long shot. quality --- And in an infinite regress, tell me, why is the pain of birth lighter borne than the pain of death? http://www.last.fm/user/followthegospel <cite>prettyprincess posted [p:883694078] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem There ya go, champs ;)</quote> <cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Mattis is a better patriot than you are, and smarter by a long shot.</quote> quality</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MasterMacLeod 07/27/17 12:10:08 PM #116:	Bullet_Wing posted... Mal_Fet posted... Bullet_Wing posted... Apparently Mattis himself is appalled by the ban and was on vacation. Didn't you say he was the idea master behind it, TC? http://www.businessinsider.com/mattis-vacation-appaulled-trump-trans-ban-2017-7 Mattis was against transgenders serving from the beginning. All this says is he didn't like how abruptly it was rolled out. So it wasn't Mattis idea then to enact the ban now. It was most likely, as myself and others surmise, a hail Mary to his alt right crowd who have become somewhat alienated by him due to the Sessions mess. Wait for the spin. <cite>MasterMacLeod posted [p:883694355] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote>Apparently Mattis himself is appalled by the ban and was on vacation. Didn't you say he was the idea master behind it, TC? http://www.businessinsider.com/mattis-vacation-appaulled-trump-trans-ban-2017-7</quote> Mattis was against transgenders serving from the beginning. All this says is he didn't like how abruptly it was rolled out.</quote> So it wasn't Mattis idea then to enact the ban now. It was most likely, as myself and others surmise, a hail Mary to his alt right crowd who have become somewhat alienated by him due to the Sessions mess.</quote> Wait for the spin.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 07/27/17 12:12:07 PM #117:	Samurontai posted... ITT: Mal Fet pretending to care about trans people, the military, or really anybody but himself Again So now it's about Mal instead of the content. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:883694455] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote>ITT: Mal Fet pretending to care about trans people, the military, or really anybody but himself Again</quote> So now it's about Mal instead of the content.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/27/17 12:40:03 PM #118:	Bullet_Wing posted... Mal_Fet posted... Bullet_Wing posted... Apparently Mattis himself is appalled by the ban and was on vacation. Didn't you say he was the idea master behind it, TC? http://www.businessinsider.com/mattis-vacation-appaulled-trump-trans-ban-2017-7 Mattis was against transgenders serving from the beginning. All this says is he didn't like how abruptly it was rolled out. So it wasn't Mattis idea then to enact the ban now. It was most likely, as myself and others surmise, a hail Mary to his alt right crowd who have become somewhat alienated by him due to the Sessions mess. So wait, you'd be ok with this if it took a little while to implement? weapon_d00d816 posted... Samurontai posted... ITT: Mal Fet pretending to care about trans people, the military, or really anybody but himself Again So now it's about Mal instead of the content. Of course. This is what they do every time they know they can't argue intellectually. Which is...frequent. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:883696060] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote>Apparently Mattis himself is appalled by the ban and was on vacation. Didn't you say he was the idea master behind it, TC? http://www.businessinsider.com/mattis-vacation-appaulled-trump-trans-ban-2017-7</quote> Mattis was against transgenders serving from the beginning. All this says is he didn't like how abruptly it was rolled out.</quote> So it wasn't Mattis idea then to enact the ban now. It was most likely, as myself and others surmise, a hail Mary to his alt right crowd who have become somewhat alienated by him due to the Sessions mess.</quote> So wait, you'd be ok with this if it took a little while to implement? <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote>ITT: Mal Fet pretending to care about trans people, the military, or really anybody but himself Again</quote> So now it's about Mal instead of the content.</quote> Of course. This is what they do every time they know they can't argue intellectually. Which is...frequent.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MasterMacLeod 07/27/17 12:46:13 PM #119:	Lol mal arguing "intellectually " <cite>MasterMacLeod posted [p:883696343] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote>Lol mal arguing "intellectually "</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OctilIery 07/27/17 1:05:54 PM #121:	Mal_Fet posted... OctilIery posted... You didn't put being transgender on the list. Already walked the other simps through this Any history or current psychosexual conditions, including, but not limited to transsexualism, exhibitionism, transvestism, voyeurism, and other paraphilias, are disqualifying. A little slow on the uptake, aren't ya @OctilIery Transgenderism is not comparable to any of those. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:883697504] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>You didn't put being transgender on the list.</quote> Already walked the other simps through this <quote> Any history or current psychosexual conditions, including, but not limited to transsexualism, exhibitionism, transvestism, voyeurism, and other paraphilias, are disqualifying.</quote> A little slow on the uptake, aren't ya @OctilIery</quote> Transgenderism is not comparable to any of those.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/27/17 1:07:05 PM #122:	Bullet_Wing posted... Post ops and trans people with healthy mental states should not be banned, for instance. Giving full psych evals in order to recruit someone is not tenable. Especially not to appease 0.25% of the population. This is the same reason they flatly disqualify anybody with depression. It's just too risky. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:883697556] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote>Post ops and trans people with healthy mental states should not be banned, for instance. </quote> Giving full psych evals in order to recruit someone is not tenable. Especially not to appease 0.25% of the population. This is the same reason they flatly disqualify anybody with depression. It's just too risky.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/27/17 1:08:07 PM #123:	OctilIery posted... Mal_Fet posted... OctilIery posted... You didn't put being transgender on the list. Already walked the other simps through this Any history or current psychosexual conditions, including, but not limited to transsexualism, exhibitionism, transvestism, voyeurism, and other paraphilias, are disqualifying. A little slow on the uptake, aren't ya @OctilIery Transgenderism is not comparable to any of those. Read it again, champ. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:883697622] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>You didn't put being transgender on the list.</quote> Already walked the other simps through this <quote> Any history or current psychosexual conditions, including, but not limited to transsexualism, exhibitionism, transvestism, voyeurism, and other paraphilias, are disqualifying.</quote> A little slow on the uptake, aren't ya @OctilIery</quote> Transgenderism is not comparable to any of those.</quote> Read it again, champ.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 07/27/17 1:08:55 PM #124:	Mal_Fet posted... OctilIery posted... Mal_Fet posted... OctilIery posted... You didn't put being transgender on the list. Already walked the other simps through this Any history or current psychosexual conditions, including, but not limited to transsexualism, exhibitionism, transvestism, voyeurism, and other paraphilias, are disqualifying. A little slow on the uptake, aren't ya @OctilIery Transgenderism is not comparable to any of those. Read it again, champ. Doesn't change what I said. It isn't a psychosexual condition, and isn't comparable to any of those. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:883697664] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>You didn't put being transgender on the list.</quote> Already walked the other simps through this <quote> Any history or current psychosexual conditions, including, but not limited to transsexualism, exhibitionism, transvestism, voyeurism, and other paraphilias, are disqualifying.</quote> A little slow on the uptake, aren't ya @OctilIery</quote> Transgenderism is not comparable to any of those.</quote> Read it again, champ.</quote> Doesn't change what I said. It isn't a psychosexual condition, and isn't comparable to any of those.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 07/27/17 1:09:17 PM #125:	faizan_faizan posted... ThePrinceFish posted... hockeybub89 posted... The military may help create a lot of technology, but they are behind the times culturally. Who would have thought that an organization whose purpose is killing people and threatening to kill people would be behind the times culturally in 2017. So countries don't need to defend themselves? Oh no, quite the opposite. I'm saying that the purpose of the military is to maximize their killing power and that doesn't often sync with hockey's spineless views of the world. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:883697680] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>faizan_faizan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>The military may help create a lot of technology, but they are behind the times culturally.</quote> Who would have thought that an organization whose purpose is killing people and threatening to kill people would be behind the times culturally in 2017.</quote> So countries don't need to defend themselves?</quote> Oh no, quite the opposite. I'm saying that the purpose of the military is to maximize their killing power and that doesn't often sync with hockey's spineless views of the world.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/27/17 1:09:43 PM #126:	OctilIery posted... It isn't a psychosexual condition Wrooong. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:883697713] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote> It isn't a psychosexual condition</quote> Wrooong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 07/27/17 1:10:34 PM #127:	Mal_Fet posted... OctilIery posted... It isn't a psychosexual condition Wrooong. Nope. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:883697770] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote> It isn't a psychosexual condition</quote> Wrooong.</quote> Nope.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/27/17 1:12:58 PM #128:	OctilIery posted... Mal_Fet posted... OctilIery posted... It isn't a psychosexual condition Wrooong. Nope. Yep. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosexual_disorder#Gender_identity_disorder Reality doesn't have to cater to yur feels, folks. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:883697916] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote> It isn't a psychosexual condition</quote> Wrooong.</quote> Nope.</quote> Yep. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosexual_disorder#Gender_identity_disorder Reality doesn't have to cater to yur feels, folks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 07/27/17 1:24:06 PM #130:	Bullet_Wing posted... I don't see the issue with post ops at all though. It was a condition that they've essentially fixed for themselves. Post-ops still have a ludicrously high suicide rate similar to people with depression, a condition that also disqualifies you from serving. And yes I know trans people. I also know really nice people with depression. Doesn't mean I think every trans person or depressed person should serve in the military. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:883698562] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote>I don't see the issue with post ops at all though. It was a condition that they've essentially fixed for themselves. </quote> Post-ops still have a ludicrously high suicide rate similar to people with depression, a condition that also disqualifies you from serving. And yes I know trans people. I also know really nice people with depression. Doesn't mean I think every trans person or depressed person should serve in the military.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/27/17 1:27:03 PM #131:	Mal_Fet posted... Bullet_Wing posted... I don't see the issue with post ops at all though. It was a condition that they've essentially fixed for themselves. Post-ops still have a ludicrously high suicide rate similar to people with depression, a condition that also disqualifies you from serving. And that is stupid. People with depression can live completely normal lives. It is ignorant that they treat a bunch of things that millions of people live normal, productive lives with as completely debilitating. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:883698749] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote>I don't see the issue with post ops at all though. It was a condition that they've essentially fixed for themselves. </quote> Post-ops still have a ludicrously high suicide rate similar to people with depression, a condition that also disqualifies you from serving.</quote> And that is stupid. People with depression can live completely normal lives. It is ignorant that they treat a bunch of things that millions of people live normal, productive lives with as completely debilitating.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YonicBoom 07/27/17 1:27:40 PM #132:	Mal_Fet posted... - Having ADHD I don't even have ADD/ADHD but was wrongly medicated for it and it DQ'd me from military service. Probably a good thing since I wanted to do EOD at the time... --- RIP TurboAE86 (19XX-2017) - No amount of Scrotal Googling could find him peace in this mortal world. "See ya, space cowboy." <cite>YonicBoom posted [p:883698789] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>- Having ADHD</quote> I don't even have ADD/ADHD but was wrongly medicated for it and it DQ'd me from military service. Probably a good thing since I wanted to do EOD at the time...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/27/17 1:28:45 PM #133:	Mal_Fet posted... Bullet_Wing posted... I don't see the issue with post ops at all though. It was a condition that they've essentially fixed for themselves. Post-ops still have a ludicrously high suicide rate similar to people with depression, a condition that also disqualifies you from serving. And yes I know trans people. I also know really nice people with depression. Doesn't mean I think every trans person or depressed person should serve in the military. Not every one. Just the ones that want to and can do their job in spite of their unfortunate condition. You know, like any other job. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:883698851] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote>I don't see the issue with post ops at all though. It was a condition that they've essentially fixed for themselves. </quote> Post-ops still have a ludicrously high suicide rate similar to people with depression, a condition that also disqualifies you from serving. And yes I know trans people. I also know really nice people with depression. Doesn't mean I think every trans person or depressed person should serve in the military.</quote> Not every one. Just the ones that want to and can do their job in spite of their unfortunate condition. You know, like any other job.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/27/17 1:31:59 PM #134:	hockeybub89 posted... Mal_Fet posted... Bullet_Wing posted... I don't see the issue with post ops at all though. It was a condition that they've essentially fixed for themselves. Post-ops still have a ludicrously high suicide rate similar to people with depression, a condition that also disqualifies you from serving. And that is stupid. People with depression can live completely normal lives. It is ignorant that they treat a bunch of things that millions of people live normal, productive lives with as completely debilitating. Yes, of course there are people with depression who would be able to serve well in the military. Ditto for transgender people, people with ADHD, people with flat feet, etc. Problem is, the military is an enormous organization that cannot put every single recruit under a magnifying glass for several months to make sure that they aren't a statistical liability. They NEED to cast a wide net to keep out unfit people, because the danger is they might cause their compatriots to die if they aren't mentally fit. It's for this same reason they don't let homosexuals give blood. When the goal is to save lives, sometimes we gotta accept that some people are a higher risk than others, even if they themselves probably don't have AIDS. understand now? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:883699055] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote>I don't see the issue with post ops at all though. It was a condition that they've essentially fixed for themselves. </quote> Post-ops still have a ludicrously high suicide rate similar to people with depression, a condition that also disqualifies you from serving.</quote> And that is stupid. People with depression can live completely normal lives. It is ignorant that they treat a bunch of things that millions of people live normal, productive lives with as completely debilitating.</quote> Yes, of course there are people with depression who would be able to serve well in the military. Ditto for transgender people, people with ADHD, people with flat feet, etc. Problem is, the military is an enormous organization that cannot put every single recruit under a magnifying glass for several months to make sure that they aren't a statistical liability. They NEED to cast a wide net to keep out unfit people, because the danger is they might cause their compatriots to die if they aren't mentally fit. It's for this same reason they don't let homosexuals give blood. When the goal is to save lives, sometimes we gotta accept that some people are a higher risk than others, even if they themselves probably don't have AIDS. understand now?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MasterMacLeod 07/27/17 1:32:50 PM #135:	Mal_Fet posted... OctilIery posted... Mal_Fet posted... OctilIery posted... It isn't a psychosexual condition Wrooong. Nope. Yep. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosexual_disorder#Gender_identity_disorder Reality doesn't have to cater to yur feels, folks. Someone hasn't clicked on it right Mal? Read what the DSM-5 says. <cite>MasterMacLeod posted [p:883699111] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote> It isn't a psychosexual condition</quote> Wrooong.</quote> Nope.</quote> Yep. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosexual_disorder#Gender_identity_disorder Reality doesn't have to cater to yur feels, folks.</quote> Someone hasn't clicked on it right Mal? Read what the DSM-5 says.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/27/17 1:51:42 PM #136:	Mal_Fet posted... hockeybub89 posted... Mal_Fet posted... Bullet_Wing posted... I don't see the issue with post ops at all though. It was a condition that they've essentially fixed for themselves. Post-ops still have a ludicrously high suicide rate similar to people with depression, a condition that also disqualifies you from serving. And that is stupid. People with depression can live completely normal lives. It is ignorant that they treat a bunch of things that millions of people live normal, productive lives with as completely debilitating. Yes, of course there are people with depression who would be able to serve well in the military. Ditto for transgender people, people with ADHD, people with flat feet, etc. Problem is, the military is an enormous organization that cannot put every single recruit under a magnifying glass for several months to make sure that they aren't a statistical liability. They NEED to cast a wide net to keep out unfit people, because the danger is they might cause their compatriots to die if they aren't mentally fit. It's for this same reason they don't let homosexuals give blood. When the goal is to save lives, sometimes we gotta accept that some people are a higher risk than others, even if they themselves probably don't have AIDS. understand now? No I do not. I think we should let gay people donate blood as well. It's not like we don't test straight blood and assume it is AIDS-free. The military can put everyone under a magnifying glass. Some recruits may already be managing their given conditions anyway. People are individuals, not statistics and these statistical arguments always fall apart when you start applying them to the majority. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:883700125] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote>I don't see the issue with post ops at all though. It was a condition that they've essentially fixed for themselves. </quote> Post-ops still have a ludicrously high suicide rate similar to people with depression, a condition that also disqualifies you from serving.</quote> And that is stupid. People with depression can live completely normal lives. It is ignorant that they treat a bunch of things that millions of people live normal, productive lives with as completely debilitating.</quote> Yes, of course there are people with depression who would be able to serve well in the military. Ditto for transgender people, people with ADHD, people with flat feet, etc. Problem is, the military is an enormous organization that cannot put every single recruit under a magnifying glass for several months to make sure that they aren't a statistical liability. They NEED to cast a wide net to keep out unfit people, because the danger is they might cause their compatriots to die if they aren't mentally fit. It's for this same reason they don't let homosexuals give blood. When the goal is to save lives, sometimes we gotta accept that some people are a higher risk than others, even if they themselves probably don't have AIDS. understand now?</quote> No I do not. I think we should let gay people donate blood as well. It's not like we don't test straight blood and assume it is AIDS-free. The military can put everyone under a magnifying glass. Some recruits may already be managing their given conditions anyway. People are individuals, not statistics and these statistical arguments always fall apart when you start applying them to the majority.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 07/27/17 1:53:00 PM #137:	Mal_Fet posted... OctilIery posted... Mal_Fet posted... OctilIery posted... It isn't a psychosexual condition Wrooong. Nope. Yep. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosexual_disorder#Gender_identity_disorder Reality doesn't have to cater to yur feels, folks. Not a thing anymore. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:883700193] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote> It isn't a psychosexual condition</quote> Wrooong.</quote> Nope.</quote> Yep. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosexual_disorder#Gender_identity_disorder Reality doesn't have to cater to yur feels, folks.</quote> Not a thing anymore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/27/17 1:54:42 PM #138:	hockeybub89 posted... No I do not. I think we should let gay people donate blood as well. It's not like we don't test straight blood and assume it is AIDS-free. Blood tests can give false negatives. That's why it's just better to ban people who have a much higher likelihood of carrying it. Just answer me this: Why is it better to subject an entire hospital to a higher likelihood of an AIDS outbreak than to just not let gay people donate blood? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:883700299] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>No I do not. I think we should let gay people donate blood as well. It's not like we don't test straight blood and assume it is AIDS-free. </quote> Blood tests can give false negatives. That's why it's just better to ban people who have a much higher likelihood of carrying it. Just answer me this: Why is it better to subject an entire hospital to a higher likelihood of an AIDS outbreak than to just not let gay people donate blood?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MysticMismagius 07/27/17 1:56:45 PM #139:	Mal_Fet posted... hockeybub89 posted... No I do not. I think we should let gay people donate blood as well. It's not like we don't test straight blood and assume it is AIDS-free. Blood tests can give false negatives. That's why it's just better to ban people who have a much higher likelihood of carrying it. Just answer me this: Why is it better to subject an entire hospital to a higher likelihood of an AIDS outbreak than to just not let gay people donate blood? You're assuming that gay = more likely to have AIDS. --- I'm not very good at this... <cite>MysticMismagius posted [p:883700393] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>No I do not. I think we should let gay people donate blood as well. It's not like we don't test straight blood and assume it is AIDS-free. </quote>Blood tests can give false negatives. That's why it's just better to ban people who have a much higher likelihood of carrying it. Just answer me this: Why is it better to subject an entire hospital to a higher likelihood of an AIDS outbreak than to just not let gay people donate blood?</quote>You're assuming that gay = more likely to have AIDS.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/27/17 1:58:10 PM #140:	MysticMismagius posted... Mal_Fet posted... hockeybub89 posted... No I do not. I think we should let gay people donate blood as well. It's not like we don't test straight blood and assume it is AIDS-free. Blood tests can give false negatives. That's why it's just better to ban people who have a much higher likelihood of carrying it. Just answer me this: Why is it better to subject an entire hospital to a higher likelihood of an AIDS outbreak than to just not let gay people donate blood? You're assuming that gay = more likely to have AIDS. It's not an assumption. http://www.gmhc.org/news-and-events/press-releases/gay-men-44-times-more-likely-to-get-hiv --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:883700491] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>MysticMismagius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>No I do not. I think we should let gay people donate blood as well. It's not like we don't test straight blood and assume it is AIDS-free. </quote>Blood tests can give false negatives. That's why it's just better to ban people who have a much higher likelihood of carrying it. Just answer me this: Why is it better to subject an entire hospital to a higher likelihood of an AIDS outbreak than to just not let gay people donate blood?</quote>You're assuming that gay = more likely to have AIDS.</quote> It's not an assumption. http://www.gmhc.org/news-and-events/press-releases/gay-men-44-times-more-likely-to-get-hiv</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
--kresnik-- 07/27/17 1:59:38 PM #141:	Mal_Fet posted... OctilIery posted... Mal_Fet posted... OctilIery posted... It isn't a psychosexual condition Wrooong. Nope. Yep. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosexual_disorder#Gender_identity_disorder Reality doesn't have to cater to yur feels, folks. #rekt --- Trump 2020 <cite>--kresnik-- posted [p:883700568] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote> It isn't a psychosexual condition</quote> Wrooong.</quote> Nope.</quote> Yep. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosexual_disorder#Gender_identity_disorder Reality doesn't have to cater to yur feels, folks.</quote> #rekt</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BoyOfBattle 07/27/17 2:00:02 PM #142:	f, n --- DIEHARD DUBS FAN SINCE 2007. We Believe! GSW. Chef Curry. Klay "Kray" Thompson. Kevin ALPHArant. we already won. <cite>BoyOfBattle posted [p:883700581] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote>f, n</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MysticMismagius 07/27/17 2:00:28 PM #143:	Mal_Fet posted... MysticMismagius posted... Mal_Fet posted... hockeybub89 posted... No I do not. I think we should let gay people donate blood as well. It's not like we don't test straight blood and assume it is AIDS-free. Blood tests can give false negatives. That's why it's just better to ban people who have a much higher likelihood of carrying it. Just answer me this: Why is it better to subject an entire hospital to a higher likelihood of an AIDS outbreak than to just not let gay people donate blood? You're assuming that gay = more likely to have AIDS. It's not an assumption. http://www.gmhc.org/news-and-events/press-releases/gay-men-44-times-more-likely-to-get-hiv Ok, cool. Thanks for showing your source. --- I'm not very good at this... <cite>MysticMismagius posted [p:883700608] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MysticMismagius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>No I do not. I think we should let gay people donate blood as well. It's not like we don't test straight blood and assume it is AIDS-free. </quote>Blood tests can give false negatives. That's why it's just better to ban people who have a much higher likelihood of carrying it. Just answer me this: Why is it better to subject an entire hospital to a higher likelihood of an AIDS outbreak than to just not let gay people donate blood?</quote>You're assuming that gay = more likely to have AIDS.</quote>It's not an assumption. http://www.gmhc.org/news-and-events/press-releases/gay-men-44-times-more-likely-to-get-hiv</quote>Ok, cool. Thanks for showing your source.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/27/17 2:04:36 PM #144:	Mal_Fet posted... hockeybub89 posted... No I do not. I think we should let gay people donate blood as well. It's not like we don't test straight blood and assume it is AIDS-free. Blood tests can give false negatives. That's why it's just better to ban people who have a much higher likelihood of carrying it. Just answer me this: Why is it better to subject an entire hospital to a higher likelihood of an AIDS outbreak than to just not let gay people donate blood? Because It's not denying people something and you more blood because you don't want to test a few more samples. I don't believe in discrimination to save some time and a small bit of budget, especially if you do it for the majority anyway and likely done by employees paid to do that specific thing. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:883700830] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>No I do not. I think we should let gay people donate blood as well. It's not like we don't test straight blood and assume it is AIDS-free. </quote> Blood tests can give false negatives. That's why it's just better to ban people who have a much higher likelihood of carrying it. Just answer me this: Why is it better to subject an entire hospital to a higher likelihood of an AIDS outbreak than to just not let gay people donate blood?</quote> Because It's not denying people something and you more blood because you don't want to test a few more samples. I don't believe in discrimination to save some time and a small bit of budget, especially if you do it for the majority anyway and likely done by employees paid to do that specific thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 07/27/17 2:05:47 PM #145:	--kresnik-- posted... Mal_Fet posted... OctilIery posted... Mal_Fet posted... OctilIery posted... It isn't a psychosexual condition Wrooong. Nope. Yep. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosexual_disorder#Gender_identity_disorder Reality doesn't have to cater to yur feels, folks. #rekt Looks like this topic went the way every topic does when Octillery tries to debate. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:883700900] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>--kresnik-- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote> It isn't a psychosexual condition</quote> Wrooong.</quote> Nope.</quote> Yep. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosexual_disorder#Gender_identity_disorder Reality doesn't have to cater to yur feels, folks.</quote> #rekt</quote> Looks like this topic went the way every topic does when Octillery tries to debate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FluttershyPony 07/27/17 2:08:35 PM #146:	So you can skip a draft by simply being a sperglord who has anime plushie pillows and MLP figurines and write sonic fanfics? <cite>FluttershyPony posted [p:883701067] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote>So you can skip a draft by simply being a sperglord who has anime plushie pillows and MLP figurines and write sonic fanfics?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Sandbag 07/27/17 2:09:41 PM #147:	EnragedSlith posted... Only one of those things is discriminatory No. It all is. --- got sand? The wall just got 10 feet higher <cite>Mr Sandbag posted [p:883701125] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>EnragedSlith posted...</cite> <quote>Only one of those things is discriminatory</quote> No. It all is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 07/27/17 2:11:08 PM #148:	FluttershyPony posted... So you can skip a draft by simply being a sperglord who has anime plushie pillows and MLP figurines and write sonic fanfics? In a draft (which will never happen again) they would loosen restrictions. Probably send the brony squads to the front lines as waves of fodder too. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:883701184] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>FluttershyPony posted...</cite> <quote>So you can skip a draft by simply being a sperglord who has anime plushie pillows and MLP figurines and write sonic fanfics?</quote> In a draft (which will never happen again) they would loosen restrictions. Probably send the brony squads to the front lines as waves of fodder too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 07/27/17 2:11:13 PM #149:	Mal_Fet posted... - Gender dysphoria, which has suicide rates similar to depression, Because family and friend rejection. I was accepted and loved my by family and friends. I've never been suicidal. requires medication, No. Many choose to just live through their lives without it. and potentially surgery in order to treat. Nope, not all of us seek it. Example of someone who knew they were transgender since the age of 3 and fought in the military without treatment: http://people.com/bodies/90-year-old-world-war-ii-veteran-comes-out-as-transgender/ --- i.imgur.com/OBxVnqJ.png ~ www.azaleasdolls.com/dressupgames/heroine-creator.php i.imgur.com/Pj3WBiE.jpg ~ www.dolldivine.com/sailor-moon-senshi-maker.php <cite>Sayoria posted [p:883701188] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote> - Gender dysphoria, which has suicide rates similar to depression,</quote> Because family and friend rejection. I was accepted and loved my by family and friends. I've never been suicidal. <quote>requires medication,</quote> No. Many choose to just live through their lives without it. <quote> and potentially surgery in order to treat.</quote> Nope, not all of us seek it. Example of someone who knew they were transgender since the age of 3 and fought in the military without treatment: http://people.com/bodies/90-year-old-world-war-ii-veteran-comes-out-as-transgender/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/27/17 2:11:47 PM #150:	hockeybub89 posted... I don't believe in discrimination to save some time and a small bit of budget, especially if you do it for the majority anyway and likely done by employees paid to do that specific thing. How about discrimination in order to save lives? Is that acceptable? And once again, it's not a human right to give blood nor to serve in the military. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:883701224] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't believe in discrimination to save some time and a small bit of budget, especially if you do it for the majority anyway and likely done by employees paid to do that specific thing.</quote> How about discrimination in order to save lives? Is that acceptable? And once again, it's not a human right to give blood nor to serve in the military.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/27/17 2:17:04 PM #151:	Mal_Fet posted... hockeybub89 posted... I don't believe in discrimination to save some time and a small bit of budget, especially if you do it for the majority anyway and likely done by employees paid to do that specific thing. How about discrimination in order to save lives? Is that acceptable? And once again, it's not a human right to give blood nor to serve in the military. I would argue that it is saving less lives, especially in the case of blood donation. You're going for the big emotional ploy. "So you would rather people DIE FROM AIDS?" It's not a inherent human right to do a lot of things, but you can argue against pretty much all of society if we're going to go with the libertarian definition of human rights. Are you for all discrimination? I feel like you have bitched about things where human rights were not in jeopardy. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:883701490] in Here's a l... [t:75607719]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't believe in discrimination to save some time and a small bit of budget, especially if you do it for the majority anyway and likely done by employees paid to do that specific thing.</quote> How about discrimination in order to save lives? Is that acceptable? And once again, it's not a human right to give blood nor to serve in the military.</quote> I would argue that it is saving less lives, especially in the case of blood donation. You're going for the big emotional ploy. "So you would rather people DIE FROM AIDS?" It's not a inherent human right to do a lot of things, but you can argue against pretty much all of society if we're going to go with the libertarian definition of human rights. Are you for all discrimination? I feel like you have bitched about things where human rights were not in jeopardy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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