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mario2000
07/26/17 10:59:27 AM
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i'm waiting
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armandro
07/26/17 11:01:43 AM
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is it illegal?
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mario2000
07/26/17 11:02:12 AM
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armandro posted...
is it illegal?

is this the best defense you can muster for this?
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Marvo Rocks
07/26/17 11:03:54 AM
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Higher rates of suicide and mental health issues amongst trans people probably wouldn't mix well in combat environments.
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armandro
07/26/17 11:04:28 AM
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mario2000 posted...
armandro posted...
is it illegal?

is this the best defense you can muster for this?

Well?
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mario2000
07/26/17 11:08:12 AM
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Spooking posted...
Military shouldn't have to pay for treatment. It's a personal issue, not for US tax dollars to pay for.

did you even read the topic?
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The Deadpool
07/26/17 11:09:22 AM
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Marvo Rocks posted...
Higher rates of suicide and mental health issues amongst trans people probably wouldn't mix well in combat environments.


Men have higher rates of suicide than women.

Are we having an all woman army now? Sounds like a dumb idea...
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armandro
07/26/17 11:10:50 AM
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The Deadpool posted...
Marvo Rocks posted...
Higher rates of suicide and mental health issues amongst trans people probably wouldn't mix well in combat environments.


Men have higher rates of suicide than women.

Are we having an all woman army now? Sounds like a dumb idea...

Yeah, because like one is totally not waaaay bigger than the other.
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armandro
07/26/17 11:11:03 AM
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armandro posted...
mario2000 posted...
armandro posted...
is it illegal?

is this the best defense you can muster for this?

Well?

Ya got nothing
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Chad-Henne
07/26/17 11:11:22 AM
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Spooking posted...
Military shouldn't have to pay for treatment. It's a personal issue, not for US tax dollars to pay for.


Meanwhile, we're paying the Security and transportation fees so Trump can go golfing every 4 days
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armandro
07/26/17 11:12:22 AM
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Chad-Henne posted...
Spooking posted...
Military shouldn't have to pay for treatment. It's a personal issue, not for US tax dollars to pay for.


Meanwhile, we're paying the Security and transportation fees so Trump can go golfing every 4 days

I wonder why security for Trump is so high?
if only people were chill
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Chad-Henne
07/26/17 11:14:09 AM
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armandro posted...
Chad-Henne posted...
Spooking posted...
Military shouldn't have to pay for treatment. It's a personal issue, not for US tax dollars to pay for.


Meanwhile, we're paying the Security and transportation fees so Trump can go golfing every 4 days

I wonder why security for Trump is so high?
if only people were chill


This is a bad shtick
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Materus
07/26/17 11:14:17 AM
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Same reason people with other mental illnesses aren't allowed to serve.
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voldothegr8
07/26/17 11:14:33 AM
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Why should Linux wizards defend this?
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mario2000
07/26/17 11:16:11 AM
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Materus posted...
Same reason people with other mental illnesses aren't allowed to serve.

tell that to all the ptsd sufferers
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eston
07/26/17 11:16:35 AM
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All medical treatment is a personal issue. What the fuck kind of argument is that
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armandro
07/26/17 11:17:46 AM
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eston posted...
All medical treatment is a personal issue. What the fuck kind of argument is that

I think he means cosmetic
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BLAKUboy
07/26/17 11:18:41 AM
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armandro posted...
I wonder why security for Trump is so high?

Because he's staying at his own resorts, so he can charge taxpayers whatever he wants.
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Garioshi
07/26/17 11:19:31 AM
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armandro posted...
The Deadpool posted...
Marvo Rocks posted...
Higher rates of suicide and mental health issues amongst trans people probably wouldn't mix well in combat environments.


Men have higher rates of suicide than women.

Are we having an all woman army now? Sounds like a dumb idea...

Yeah, because like one is totally not waaaay bigger than the other.

So at what point do you draw the line?
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armandro
07/26/17 11:23:24 AM
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Garioshi posted...
armandro posted...
The Deadpool posted...
Marvo Rocks posted...
Higher rates of suicide and mental health issues amongst trans people probably wouldn't mix well in combat environments.


Men have higher rates of suicide than women.

Are we having an all woman army now? Sounds like a dumb idea...

Yeah, because like one is totally not waaaay bigger than the other.

So at what point do you draw the line?

idk, i don't care who or what joins the military.

I'm all for a robot army tho
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Marvo Rocks
07/26/17 11:25:45 AM
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Garioshi posted...
armandro posted...
The Deadpool posted...
Marvo Rocks posted...
Higher rates of suicide and mental health issues amongst trans people probably wouldn't mix well in combat environments.


Men have higher rates of suicide than women.

Are we having an all woman army now? Sounds like a dumb idea...

Yeah, because like one is totally not waaaay bigger than the other.

So at what point do you draw the line?


Probably at the point where it makes sense. Trans people are a minority and preventing them from joining the military doesn't have a huge impact on it's size or effectiveness. Preventing men from joining would significantly reduce your country's military capability.
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The Deadpool
07/26/17 12:02:40 PM
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armandro posted...
The Deadpool posted...
Marvo Rocks posted...
Higher rates of suicide and mental health issues amongst trans people probably wouldn't mix well in combat environments.


Men have higher rates of suicide than women.

Are we having an all woman army now? Sounds like a dumb idea...

Yeah, because like one is totally not waaaay bigger than the other.


So?

What's the official accepted range for suicide rate a demographic is allowed to have to join the army?
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Capn Circus
07/26/17 12:04:11 PM
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Easy. He took advice from generals.

"Since becoming the Secretary of Defense, I have emphasized that the Department of Defense must measure each policy decision against one critical standard: will the decision affect the readiness and lethality of the force?" Mattis said in a memo late last month. "Put another way, how will the decision affect the ability of America's military to defend the nation? It is against this standard that I provide the following guidance on the way forward in accessing transgender individuals into the military Services."
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_Near_
07/26/17 12:05:34 PM
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Do you know WHY trans people have higher rates of depression and suicide? Because you treat them like fucking second class citizens by doing shit like banning them from the military.
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Garioshi
07/26/17 12:08:30 PM
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Marvo Rocks posted...
Garioshi posted...
armandro posted...
The Deadpool posted...
Marvo Rocks posted...
Higher rates of suicide and mental health issues amongst trans people probably wouldn't mix well in combat environments.


Men have higher rates of suicide than women.

Are we having an all woman army now? Sounds like a dumb idea...

Yeah, because like one is totally not waaaay bigger than the other.

So at what point do you draw the line?


Probably at the point where it makes sense. Trans people are a minority and preventing them from joining the military doesn't have a huge impact on it's size or effectiveness. Preventing men from joining would significantly reduce your country's military capability.

Give me a specific threshold for being unbannable, a reasoning for this threshold, and a reasoning for why you should ban any group in the first place.
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SSJ-JohnLennon
07/26/17 12:10:03 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
"They're scary and different to us so we don't care when they're discriminated against. Something something Chelsea Manning traitor something."

This is a strawman.
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OctilIery
07/26/17 12:12:09 PM
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Spooking posted...
Military shouldn't have to pay for treatment. It's a personal issue, not for US tax dollars to pay for.

Except no, it's a medical issue.

Marvo Rocks posted...
Higher rates of suicide and mental health issues amongst trans people probably wouldn't mix well in combat environments.

They aren't significantly higher then other lgbt people preop, and post OP they're roughly the same.
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_Near_
07/26/17 12:12:34 PM
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I love how everyone assumes that military = combat.
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SSJ-JohnLennon
07/26/17 12:12:34 PM
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OctilIery posted...
Spooking posted...
Military shouldn't have to pay for treatment. It's a personal issue, not for US tax dollars to pay for.

Except no, it's a medical issue.

Marvo Rocks posted...
Higher rates of suicide and mental health issues amongst trans people probably wouldn't mix well in combat environments.

They aren't significantly higher then other lgbt people preop, and post OP they're roughly the same.

Source?
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OctilIery
07/26/17 12:12:41 PM
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Materus posted...
Same reason people with other mental illnesses aren't allowed to serve.

Transgenderism isn't a mental illness.
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SSJ-JohnLennon
07/26/17 12:13:13 PM
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_Near_ posted...
I love how everyone assumes that military = combat.

Combat is an important aspect of the military, kid.
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SSJ-JohnLennon
07/26/17 12:13:47 PM
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OctilIery posted...
Materus posted...
Same reason people with other mental illnesses aren't allowed to serve.

Transgenderism isn't a mental illness.

It's a debated subject, actually.
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Solid Sonic
07/26/17 12:13:54 PM
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Red Hat is an honorable company.
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_Near_
07/26/17 12:13:55 PM
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SSJ-JohnLennon posted...
_Near_ posted...
I love how everyone assumes that military = combat.

Combat is an important aspect of the military, kid.


And most people in the military never see it, child.
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SSJ-JohnLennon
07/26/17 12:14:14 PM
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_Near_ posted...
SSJ-JohnLennon posted...
_Near_ posted...
I love how everyone assumes that military = combat.

Combat is an important aspect of the military, kid.


And most people in the military never see it, child.

A lot of people do.
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Master_Bass
07/26/17 12:14:52 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Why should Linux wizards defend this?

I'm wondering why a Linux distro cares at all, myself.
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Vyrulisse
07/26/17 12:15:11 PM
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I find the absolute glee in which people who are Anti-Trump rush to use it as ammo to insult others almost as distasteful as what Trump does.
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OctilIery
07/26/17 12:15:31 PM
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SSJ-JohnLennon posted...
OctilIery posted...
Materus posted...
Same reason people with other mental illnesses aren't allowed to serve.

Transgenderism isn't a mental illness.

It's a debated subject, actually.

No, it actually isn't. Nobody respected in the field considers it a mental illness.
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SSJ-JohnLennon
07/26/17 12:16:04 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
I find the absolute glee in which people who are Anti-Trump rush to use it as ammo to insult others almost as distasteful as what Trump does.

They're truly a bitter bunch.

Have you seen them post in topics about Obamacare? Many of them wish death on conservatives.
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SSJ-JohnLennon
07/26/17 12:16:25 PM
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OctilIery posted...
SSJ-JohnLennon posted...
OctilIery posted...
Materus posted...
Same reason people with other mental illnesses aren't allowed to serve.

Transgenderism isn't a mental illness.

It's a debated subject, actually.

No, it actually isn't. Nobody respected in the field considers it a mental illness.

What is it then?
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eston
07/26/17 12:16:43 PM
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_Near_ posted...
I love how everyone assumes that military = combat.

Yeah people don't seem to get that the vast majority of people in the armed forces are not in combat roles
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creativerealms
07/26/17 12:16:48 PM
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OctilIery posted...
SSJ-JohnLennon posted...
OctilIery posted...
Materus posted...
Same reason people with other mental illnesses aren't allowed to serve.

Transgenderism isn't a mental illness.

It's a debated subject, actually.

No, it actually isn't. Nobody respected in the field considers it a mental illness.

Isn't Gender Dysphoria a mental illness? That's often a cause for people changing genders.
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_Near_
07/26/17 12:16:52 PM
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SSJ-JohnLennon posted...

A lot of people do.


oh wait, you're johnlennon6

lol my bad.

carry on
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OctilIery
07/26/17 12:17:27 PM
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SSJ-JohnLennon posted...
OctilIery posted...
SSJ-JohnLennon posted...
OctilIery posted...
Materus posted...
Same reason people with other mental illnesses aren't allowed to serve.

Transgenderism isn't a mental illness.

It's a debated subject, actually.

No, it actually isn't. Nobody respected in the field considers it a mental illness.

What is it then?

It's transgenderism. Simple as that.
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Fossil
07/26/17 12:17:48 PM
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_Near_ posted...
SSJ-JohnLennon posted...
_Near_ posted...
I love how everyone assumes that military = combat.

Combat is an important aspect of the military, kid.


And most people in the military never see it, child.

Do you even serve or are you just pulling shit out of your ass
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The Deadpool
07/26/17 12:17:58 PM
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_Near_ posted...
SSJ-JohnLennon posted...

A lot of people do.


oh wait, you're johnlennon6

lol my bad.

carry on


Now you're learning.

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