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NatsuSama
07/25/17 7:26:21 PM
#101:


ManLink4321 posted...
Atheism is popular because it's a convenient crutch.

How is it a crutch?
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SSJ-JohnLennon
07/25/17 7:30:56 PM
#102:


NatsuSama posted...
ManLink4321 posted...
Atheism is popular because it's a convenient crutch.

How is it a crutch?

I think he meant to say 'church'
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ManLink4321
07/25/17 7:42:21 PM
#103:


NatsuSama posted...
ManLink4321 posted...
Atheism is popular because it's a convenient crutch.

How is it a crutch?


It relies on many things you cannot prove.
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Dragonblade01
07/25/17 7:44:35 PM
#104:


Atheism, in its simplest form, relies on nothing.
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ManLink4321
07/25/17 7:46:17 PM
#105:


Dragonblade01 posted...
Atheism, in its simplest form, relies on nothing.


It relies on making many bullshit claims without any sort of proof.
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Dash_Harber
07/25/17 7:47:24 PM
#106:


ManLink4321 posted...
NatsuSama posted...
ManLink4321 posted...
Atheism is popular because it's a convenient crutch.

How is it a crutch?


It relies on many things you cannot prove.

Like what?
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Dragonblade01
07/25/17 7:47:54 PM
#107:


ManLink4321 posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Atheism, in its simplest form, relies on nothing.


It relies on making many bullshit claims without any sort of proof.

It relies on exactly zero claims.
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Pastryarchy
07/25/17 7:50:44 PM
#108:


Why is atheism so popular?

The internet and other informational technology is on the rise increasing the influence of scientific research and principles to places they didn't reach before. In some regions of the world, religion is starting to slowly take more and more of a backseat to pop media.

With stuff like Google Search accessible to anyone with a compatible cell phone, less people rely on cosmic mysteries to answer life questions.

Part of the reasons some religions accumulated so much power is because their roots took place during periods when the masses did not have casual access to information that conflicted with reining religious ideas and brought them into question. Now they do. And it's only going to increase with the evolution of technology.
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l33t_iRk3n_Rm33
07/25/17 7:51:59 PM
#109:


ShotOJameson posted...
Because people are weaker and sadder and want someone to blame their pathetic lives so they blame everyone else including god.

?

You're one of those "How can you hate someone who doesn't exist" folks aren't you?
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l33t_iRk3n_Rm33
07/25/17 7:53:59 PM
#110:


ManLink4321 posted...
NatsuSama posted...
ManLink4321 posted...
Atheism is popular because it's a convenient crutch.

How is it a crutch?


It relies on many things you cannot prove.

You mean like Earth taking longer to form than the much larger stars? Or that there's an omnipotent invisible reality warper who cries every time I touch my wiener? Oh wait, wrong ideology.
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ShinigamiSoul
07/25/17 7:55:24 PM
#111:


Dragonblade01 posted...
ManLink4321 posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Atheism, in its simplest form, relies on nothing.


It relies on making many bullshit claims without any sort of proof.

It relies on exactly zero claims.

Then how can it be something to live by or accept?
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Callixtus
07/25/17 7:57:06 PM
#112:


Atheism isn't popular. Atheists probably make up ~5% of global population or less. And even then, at least some portion of those atheists are still spiritual or religious in some way.

The types of atheists that reject all supernatural realities are quite rare.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism#Studies_and_statistics
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Dragonblade01
07/25/17 8:01:06 PM
#113:


ShinigamiSoul posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
ManLink4321 posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Atheism, in its simplest form, relies on nothing.


It relies on making many bullshit claims without any sort of proof.

It relies on exactly zero claims.

Then how can it be something to live by or accept?

It's neither of those things. At its core, it's just a stance on a single question. And the nature of that stance is such that you don't "accept" atheism. It's simply the case that you are an atheist if you don't accept theistic claims. There are certainly atheists who go the next step and make some sort of positive claim, but it's not required for atheism.

In terms of ideologies, you're looking for something more along the lines of secular humanism, not atheism. Even self-described new atheists essentially just tack atheism to the tails of other ideologies.
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l33t_iRk3n_Rm33
07/25/17 8:07:37 PM
#114:


ShinigamiSoul posted...
Then how can it be something to live by or accept?

See, this is something I see too many religious people fail to understand: a man is more than his religious beliefs. Or at least, he can be.

I don't devote my life to Atheism. It's just something about me, or rather, the lack thereof. Just like I don't devote my life to not playing sports, or not listening to rap music, or not buying an Xbox. I don't do those things, but not for any reason other than that I've got other things to do.

It's not something to live by, it doesn't have to be. I can give my life meaning in other ways.
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Veggeta X
07/25/17 8:18:14 PM
#115:


hey guys this is how you ignore Raptor.
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SSJ-JohnLennon
07/25/17 8:18:44 PM
#116:


Veggeta X posted...
hey guys this is how you ignore Raptor.

You've been melting down all topic.
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Drrobotniks
07/25/17 8:20:13 PM
#117:


Veggeta X posted...
hey guys this is how you ignore Raptor.

Hey remember how you said good posters dont use the ignore option
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gatorsPENSbucs
07/25/17 8:20:54 PM
#118:


I've literally never heard one person talk about atheism in real life. Literally. Never.
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Veggeta X
07/25/17 8:20:54 PM
#119:


LMAO I didn't say I put him on my ignore list
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NatsuSama
07/25/17 10:57:56 PM
#120:


ManLink4321 posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Atheism, in its simplest form, relies on nothing.


It relies on making many bullshit claims without any sort of proof.

Just sounds like you crying people dont believe in your god. Atheism doesnt rely on anything but not believing in a god.
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NatsuSama
07/25/17 11:02:10 PM
#121:


ShinigamiSoul posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
ManLink4321 posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Atheism, in its simplest form, relies on nothing.


It relies on making many bullshit claims without any sort of proof.

It relies on exactly zero claims.

Then how can it be something to live by or accept?

ITP atheism (sp) is a religion that is worshipped. People cant have a moral compass without some religion guiding you....
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SSJ-JohnLennon
07/25/17 11:05:18 PM
#122:


NatsuSama posted...
ShinigamiSoul posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
ManLink4321 posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Atheism, in its simplest form, relies on nothing.


It relies on making many bullshit claims without any sort of proof.

It relies on exactly zero claims.

Then how can it be something to live by or accept?

ITP atheism (sp) is a religion that is worshipped. People cant have a moral compass without some religion guiding you....

Nobody implied any of that.
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MysticMismagius
07/25/17 11:07:25 PM
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NatsuSama
07/25/17 11:13:57 PM
#124:


SSJ-JohnLennon posted...
NatsuSama posted...
ShinigamiSoul posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
ManLink4321 posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Atheism, in its simplest form, relies on nothing.


It relies on making many bullshit claims without any sort of proof.

It relies on exactly zero claims.

Then how can it be something to live by or accept?

ITP atheism (sp) is a religion that is worshipped. People cant have a moral compass without some religion guiding you....

Nobody implied any of that.

He/she literally asks how can you live by or accept atheism. Like its some religious practice that all atheist worship but unfortunately lacks guidance.

The pretense of the conversation was atheist relying on claims with no proof. The response to that was Atheist dont rely on claims, its just about not believing in a god. The response to that was then how can you live by or accept that....
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Lightsasori
07/26/17 2:17:25 PM
#125:


NatsuSama posted...
SSJ-JohnLennon posted...
NatsuSama posted...
ShinigamiSoul posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
ManLink4321 posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Atheism, in its simplest form, relies on nothing.


It relies on making many bullshit claims without any sort of proof.

It relies on exactly zero claims.

Then how can it be something to live by or accept?

ITP atheism (sp) is a religion that is worshipped. People cant have a moral compass without some religion guiding you....

Nobody implied any of that.

He/she literally asks how can you live by or accept atheism. Like its some religious practice that all atheist worship but unfortunately lacks guidance.

The pretense of the conversation was atheist relying on claims with no proof. The response to that was Atheist dont rely on claims, its just about not believing in a god. The response to that was then how can you live by or accept that....


Yeah it's common for theists to misconstrue atheism as a religion. I mean it's very possible for atheist to treat atheism as a religion, but by definition atheism is just an answer to one question. Everything else is up to the individual because there is no dogma to follow.
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LittleRoyal
07/26/17 2:34:09 PM
#126:


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Dash_Harber
07/26/17 7:03:36 PM
#127:


NatsuSama posted...
People cant have a moral compass without some religion guiding you....


That's just plain wrong. In the same way that packs of animals have codes of conduct, we do based on our inherit will to survive and our status as tribal animals. Part of being human is being part of a collective group and that creates certain standards and rules that are inherit in our nature.
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Veggeta X
07/27/17 11:47:21 AM
#128:


Dash_Harber posted...
NatsuSama posted...
People cant have a moral compass without some religion guiding you....


That's just plain wrong. In the same way that packs of animals have codes of conduct, we do based on our inherit will to survive and our status as tribal animals. Part of being human is being part of a collective group and that creates certain standards and rules that are inherit in our nature.
This is stupid. You truly think having something you think is fake guide them to be a good person is wrong?
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weapon_d00d816
07/27/17 11:53:22 AM
#129:


The more you learn about the world, the harder it becomes to take the foundations of religion seriously.

This, along with some people who have been disenchanted by the negative aspects of their religion (preaching intolerance, strict adherence to inconsequential things, corruption...)


That's really all there is to it.
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SSJ-JohnLennon
07/27/17 11:58:10 AM
#130:


weapon_d00d816 posted...
The more you learn about the world, the harder it becomes to take the foundations of religion seriously.

Not really. Religious texts are open to wide interpretation.
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MysticMismagius
07/27/17 12:01:14 PM
#131:


Veggeta X posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
NatsuSama posted...
People cant have a moral compass without some religion guiding you....
That's just plain wrong. In the same way that packs of animals have codes of conduct, we do based on our inherit will to survive and our status as tribal animals. Part of being human is being part of a collective group and that creates certain standards and rules that are inherit in our nature.
This is stupid. You truly think having something you think is fake guide them to be a good person is wrong?
No, what atheists think is that people don't need that thing to guide them for them to be a good person or do good things.
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weapon_d00d816
07/27/17 12:01:24 PM
#132:


SSJ-JohnLennon posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
The more you learn about the world, the harder it becomes to take the foundations of religion seriously.

Not really. Religious texts are open to wide interpretation.

Which is one of the reasons it's hard to take it seriously. It either makes a very specific statement about the world which is highly fictitious, or it's too be taken so broadly as to lose all importance just to fit in with modern knowledge.

These are ancient myths that only worked back when people didn't know the earth was billions of years old or that it was larger than just the Middle East.
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Veggeta X
07/27/17 12:06:35 PM
#133:


MysticMismagius posted...
No, what atheists think is that people don't need that thing to guide them for them to be a good person or do good things.
So what if they need it? Inspirations and motivation in life comes from everything.
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Rexdragon125
07/27/17 12:21:15 PM
#134:


There's strong evidence that morality is a result of evolution. Animals regularly demonstrate altruism. So no, you don't need a magic book to tell you what's right and wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_morality
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altruism_(biology)
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SSJ-JohnLennon
07/27/17 12:22:07 PM
#135:


Rexdragon125 posted...
Animals regularly demonstrate altruism

Source?
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Rexdragon125
07/27/17 12:24:22 PM
#136:


SSJ-JohnLennon posted...
Rexdragon125 posted...
Animals regularly demonstrate altruism

Source?

If you look really hard in the 3 lines of my last post you might find some.
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MysticMismagius
07/27/17 12:25:50 PM
#137:


Veggeta X posted...
MysticMismagius posted...
No, what atheists think is that people don't need that thing to guide them for them to be a good person or do good things.
So what if they need it? Inspirations and motivation in life comes from everything.
Yes, but when theists say shit like "well if you don't have the fear of Hell to keep you in line, what stops you from raping and murdering everyone you know?", or things like what NatsuSama said, then it becomes relevant that a religious text is not necessary to guide people into moral actions.
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SSJ-JohnLennon
07/27/17 12:26:15 PM
#138:


Rexdragon125 posted...
SSJ-JohnLennon posted...
Rexdragon125 posted...
Animals regularly demonstrate altruism

Source?

If you look really hard in the 3 lines of my last post you might find some.

I didn't see that.
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Lightsasori
07/27/17 1:41:31 PM
#139:


Dash_Harber posted...
NatsuSama posted...
People cant have a moral compass without some religion guiding you....


That's just plain wrong. In the same way that packs of animals have codes of conduct, we do based on our inherit will to survive and our status as tribal animals. Part of being human is being part of a collective group and that creates certain standards and rules that are inherit in our nature.


You took his post way out of context...
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Funkydog
07/27/17 6:12:19 PM
#141:


Asherlee10 posted...
I wouldn't even call it popular. Pew says 3.1% of the U.S. claims to be an atheist.

http://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/#religions

I'm sure there are some that mark a religious affiliation that do end up being atheists, but even still, I wouldn't call atheism popular (yet).
http://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/belief-in-god/

Perhaps not in America, but it is steadily growing in Europe.

I think it was something like nearly half the UK identifies so, in recent studies.
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Dash_Harber
07/27/17 7:59:15 PM
#142:


Lightsasori posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
NatsuSama posted...
People cant have a moral compass without some religion guiding you....


That's just plain wrong. In the same way that packs of animals have codes of conduct, we do based on our inherit will to survive and our status as tribal animals. Part of being human is being part of a collective group and that creates certain standards and rules that are inherit in our nature.


You took his post way out of context...


Ah, my mistake then.
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The Deadpool
07/27/17 8:04:44 PM
#143:


Funkydog posted...
Perhaps not in America, but it is steadily growing in Europe.


It's growing quickly in the civilized world, but it's still not that popular. France and Czech Republic I believe are the atheist leader (although France is still culturally Catholic).
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Dragonblade01
07/27/17 8:13:17 PM
#144:


I'd say that being non-religious is common enough to be considered popular. I feel like most of the differences between the various labels that fit under that category are pretty superfluous.
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Darmik
07/27/17 8:15:42 PM
#145:


http://www.news.com.au/national/no-religion-tops-religion-question-in-census/news-story/a3b45e6b2e35df695932a83535078f51

One of the things that makes me proud about Australia tbh. Hopefully we can crack that 50% barrier soon.
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Samurontai
07/27/17 8:25:33 PM
#146:


Callixtus posted...
Atheism isn't popular. Atheists probably make up ~5% of global population or less. And even then, at least some portion of those atheists are still spiritual or religious in some way.

The types of atheists that reject all supernatural realities are quite rare.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism#Studies_and_statistics


False

Atheism involves the disbelief (or non belief or whatever you want to call it) of a god, or supernatural deity

Confucianism and Buddhism make up the fifth and sixth largest religions in the world, and are technically atheistic in nature

So yeah, atheism makes up a considerable portion of the population, with Buddhism alone making up about 10% of the world population
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