Current Events > Only 45 percent of Trump voters said they believe that Trump Jr. went to meeting

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Darkman124 07/19/17 3:04:27 PM #1:	http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/342700-poll-nearly-half-of-trump-voters-dont-think-trump-jr-met-with-russian Nearly a third of Americans who voted for President Trump said they don't believe that Trump's eldest son met with a Russian lawyer last year, according to a new poll released Tuesday. 24 percent said they aren’t sure, according to the poll results. That's despite the fact that Donald Trump Jr. has admitted that the meeting took place. I understand claiming it's irrelevant or not an indictment or whatever else, but I don't understand denying it happened. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:883214560] in Only 45 pe... [t:75582709]...</cite> <quote>http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/342700-poll-nearly-half-of-trump-voters-dont-think-trump-jr-met-with-russian <quote>Nearly a third of Americans who voted for President Trump said they don't believe that Trump's eldest son met with a Russian lawyer last year, according to a new poll released Tuesday. 24 percent said they aren’t sure, according to the poll results. That's despite the fact that Donald Trump Jr. has admitted that the meeting took place. </quote> I understand claiming it's irrelevant or not an indictment or whatever else, but I don't understand denying it happened.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MattSFfrd 07/19/17 3:05:26 PM #2:	most are too busy living normal lives to give a shit --- http://i.imgur.com/DHLvJ5Q.gif https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQy5giAUsAAUXXa.jpg <cite>MattSFfrd posted [p:883214619] in Only 45 pe... [t:75582709]...</cite> <quote>most are too busy living normal lives to give a shit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 07/19/17 3:11:00 PM #3:	MattSFfrd posted... most are too busy living normal lives to give a shit because most accept that it happened, derp. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:883214988] in Only 45 pe... [t:75582709]...</cite> <quote><cite>MattSFfrd posted...</cite> <quote>most are too busy living normal lives to give a shit</quote> because most accept that it happened, derp.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/19/17 3:16:30 PM #4:	Why, when I go to the actual poll linked in the article, do the percentages not match AT ALL with the article's headline? Can you fake news any harder? EDIT: Q23 in the poll: Do you believe that Donald Trump Jr. had a meeting with a Russian lawyer about information that might be harmful to Hillary Clinton, or not? 66% Believe that Donald Trump Jr. had a meeting with a Russian lawyer about information that might be harmful to Hillary Clinton 17% Do not believe that Donald Trump Jr. had a meeting with a Russian lawyer about information that might be harmful to Hillary Clinton 17% Not sure --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:883215331] in Only 45 pe... [t:75582709]...</cite> <quote>Why, when I go to the actual poll linked in the article, do the percentages not match AT ALL with the article's headline? Can you fake news any harder? EDIT: Q23 in the poll: Do you believe that Donald Trump Jr. had a meeting with a Russian lawyer about information that might be harmful to Hillary Clinton, or not? 66% Believe that Donald Trump Jr. had a meeting with a Russian lawyer about information that might be harmful to Hillary Clinton 17% Do not believe that Donald Trump Jr. had a meeting with a Russian lawyer about information that might be harmful to Hillary Clinton 17% Not sure</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 07/19/17 3:17:19 PM #5:	Most Trump fans are delusional so this isn't surprising at all. --- This is my year of Pokemon! Pokemon games I'm playing: Fire Red and Pearl. <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:883215380] in Only 45 pe... [t:75582709]...</cite> <quote>Most Trump fans are delusional so this isn't surprising at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 07/19/17 3:18:17 PM #6:	s0nicfan posted... Why, when I go to the actual poll linked in the article, do the percentages not match AT ALL with the article's headline? Can you fake news any harder? http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2017/PPP_Release_National_71817.pdf On Russia related issues we find a certain degree of willful ignorance among Trump voters that can possibly best be summarized by this finding: only 45% of Trump voters believe Donald Trump Jr. had a meeting with Russians about information that might be harmful to Hillary Clinton...even though Trump Jr. admitted it. 32% say the meeting didn't happen and 24% say they're not sure. presumably the numbers you are quoting are 'all respondents' and not 'respondents who identified themselves as trump voters' considering the answer to Q1 was '55% disapprove/41% approve' and trump voters generally are in lockstep approval of him --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:883215443] in Only 45 pe... [t:75582709]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Why, when I go to the actual poll linked in the article, do the percentages not match AT ALL with the article's headline? Can you fake news any harder?</quote> http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2017/PPP_Release_National_71817.pdf <quote>On Russia related issues we find a certain degree of willful ignorance among Trump voters that can possibly best be summarized by this finding: only 45% of Trump voters believe Donald Trump Jr. had a meeting with Russians about information that might be harmful to Hillary Clinton...even though Trump Jr. admitted it. 32% say the meeting didn't happen and 24% say they're not sure.</quote> presumably the numbers you are quoting are 'all respondents' and not 'respondents who identified themselves as trump voters' considering the answer to Q1 was '55% disapprove/41% approve' and trump voters generally are in lockstep approval of him</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/19/17 3:19:04 PM #7:	Darkman124 posted... s0nicfan posted... Why, when I go to the actual poll linked in the article, do the percentages not match AT ALL with the article's headline? Can you fake news any harder? http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2017/PPP_Release_National_71817.pdf On Russia related issues we find a certain degree of willful ignorance among Trump voters that can possibly best be summarized by this finding: only 45% of Trump voters believe Donald Trump Jr. had a meeting with Russians about information that might be harmful to Hillary Clinton...even though Trump Jr. admitted it. 32% say the meeting didn't happen and 24% say they're not sure. But again... question 23 lists the question and the results, and the numbers don't even line up with this "summary conclusion" --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:883215487] in Only 45 pe... [t:75582709]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Why, when I go to the actual poll linked in the article, do the percentages not match AT ALL with the article's headline? Can you fake news any harder?</quote> http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2017/PPP_Release_National_71817.pdf <quote>On Russia related issues we find a certain degree of willful ignorance among Trump voters that can possibly best be summarized by this finding: only 45% of Trump voters believe Donald Trump Jr. had a meeting with Russians about information that might be harmful to Hillary Clinton...even though Trump Jr. admitted it. 32% say the meeting didn't happen and 24% say they're not sure.</quote></quote> But again... question 23 lists the question and the results, and the numbers don't even line up with this "summary conclusion"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 07/19/17 3:20:16 PM #8:	s0nicfan posted... But again... question 23 lists the question and the results, and the numbers don't even line up with this "summary conclusion" the summary conclusion was about trump voters and this was not a poll exclusively of trump voters --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:883215561] in Only 45 pe... [t:75582709]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>But again... question 23 lists the question and the results, and the numbers don't even line up with this "summary conclusion" </quote> the summary conclusion was about trump voters and this was not a poll exclusively of trump voters</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/19/17 3:21:57 PM #9:	Darkman124 posted... s0nicfan posted... But again... question 23 lists the question and the results, and the numbers don't even line up with this "summary conclusion" the summary conclusion was about trump voters and this was not a poll exclusively of trump voters Ah okay, they also asked who they voted for, and then used that question to split out the results. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:883215666] in Only 45 pe... [t:75582709]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>But again... question 23 lists the question and the results, and the numbers don't even line up with this "summary conclusion" </quote> the summary conclusion was about trump voters and this was not a poll exclusively of trump voters</quote> Ah okay, they also asked who they voted for, and then used that question to split out the results.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 07/19/17 3:23:28 PM #10:	s0nicfan posted... Ah okay, they also asked who they voted for, and then used that question to split out the results. correct. Q56 --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:883215773] in Only 45 pe... [t:75582709]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote> Ah okay, they also asked who they voted for, and then used that question to split out the results. </quote> correct. Q56</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RuffledPeanuts 07/19/17 3:56:21 PM #11:	The question was about more than whether or not the meeting took place. That news article sucks. Do you believe that Donald Trump Jr. had a meeting with a Russian lawyer about information that might be harmful to Hillary Clinton, or not? Trump supporters could be denying the exact reason for the meeting or might be saying "No" on the basis that they believe no harmful information about Hillary Clinton ended up being shared. No real way to tell considering we can't ask the respondents. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/AJSadler/RuffledPeanuts.jpg <cite>RuffledPeanuts posted [p:883217772] in Only 45 pe... [t:75582709]...</cite> <quote>The question was about more than whether or not the meeting took place. That news article sucks. Do you believe that Donald Trump Jr. had a meeting with a Russian lawyer about information that might be harmful to Hillary Clinton, or not? Trump supporters could be denying the exact reason for the meeting or might be saying "No" on the basis that they believe no harmful information about Hillary Clinton ended up being shared. No real way to tell considering we can't ask the respondents.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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