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ManLink4321 07/17/17 1:10:51 PM #1:	Why? --- The Hero of Hyrule. <cite>ManLink4321 posted [p:883079460] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote>Why?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HypnoCoosh 07/17/17 1:11:43 PM #3:	Because $$$ > everything else --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis <cite>HypnoCoosh posted [p:883079504] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote>Because $$$ > everything else</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheBiggerWiggle 07/17/17 1:12:33 PM #4:	Because literally 85% of the entire league is irrelevant. --- I have trouble concentrating because I have 80HD. <cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted [p:883079547] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote>Because literally 85% of the entire league is irrelevant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iosifsvoboda 07/17/17 1:13:58 PM #5:	Because the Player's Association is ran by all the elite players so that literally everybody except for the top 15 players get fucked. Not to mention that the commissioners office thinks its job is to meddle so the general autonomy and fairness of the league is dubious. Fuck Donald Stern fuck Adam Silver fuck Jerry Coangelo --- ^_^ <cite>iosifsvoboda posted [p:883079640] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote>Because the Player's Association is ran by all the elite players so that literally everybody except for the top 15 players get fucked. Not to mention that the commissioners office thinks its job is to meddle so the general autonomy and fairness of the league is dubious. Fuck Donald Stern fuck Adam Silver fuck Jerry Coangelo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shin Kudo 07/17/17 1:15:53 PM #6:	Literally the most watchable league in North American pro sports --- http://imgur.com/WjiGN0g http://imgur.com/o2NVhgX <cite>Shin Kudo posted [p:883079760] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote>Literally the most watchable league in North American pro sports</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Calwyn 07/17/17 1:35:58 PM #7:	TheBiggerWiggle posted... Because literally 85% of the entire league is irrelevant. Saying 15% of the league is relevant right now is actually being more generous than the NBA deserves. The Warriors, Cavaliers and Rockets (since getting Chris Paul) are the only 3 teams that have any sort of chance to win this year's NBA title, and the Rockets are still a huge longshot. That's 3 out of 30 teams relevant, meaning it's actually 90% of the league that doesn't mean shit. The Warriors and Cavs will run through everyone, the Rockets will be the only ones to put up any sort of a fight, and if you're not a fan of one of those teams, then good luck finding a reason to care about the NBA until at least the conference finals. The "arms race" mentality that the stars have is destroying the NBA from the inside. I literally watched more hockey in the past year than basketball because it was so obvious that the finals would be Warriors vs. Cavs and I cared so little. --- #429 ~ http://i.imgur.com/b70Jp1g.jpg "You've gotta keep fighting, and get back up again... my champion!" <cite>Calwyn posted [p:883080823] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted...</cite> <quote>Because literally 85% of the entire league is irrelevant.</quote> Saying 15% of the league is relevant right now is actually being more generous than the NBA deserves. The Warriors, Cavaliers and Rockets (since getting Chris Paul) are the only 3 teams that have any sort of chance to win this year's NBA title, and the Rockets are still a huge longshot. That's 3 out of 30 teams relevant, meaning it's actually 90% of the league that doesn't mean shit. The Warriors and Cavs will run through everyone, the Rockets will be the only ones to put up any sort of a fight, and if you're not a fan of one of those teams, then good luck finding a reason to care about the NBA until at least the conference finals. The "arms race" mentality that the stars have is destroying the NBA from the inside. I literally watched more hockey in the past year than basketball because it was so obvious that the finals would be Warriors vs. Cavs and I cared so little.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chill02 07/17/17 1:36:19 PM #8:	fenderbender321 posted... Because the Supersonics aren't a team anymore. --- Ave, true to Caesar. <cite>chill02 posted [p:883080849] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>Because the Supersonics aren't a team anymore.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GunmaN1905 07/17/17 1:37:27 PM #9:	Calwyn posted... TheBiggerWiggle posted... Because literally 85% of the entire league is irrelevant. Saying 15% of the league is relevant right now is actually being more generous than the NBA deserves. The Warriors, Cavaliers and Rockets (since getting Chris Paul) are the only 3 teams that have any sort of chance to win this year's NBA title, and the Rockets are still a huge longshot. That's 3 out of 30 teams relevant, meaning it's actually 90% of the league that doesn't mean shit. The Warriors and Cavs will run through everyone, the Rockets will be the only ones to put up any sort of a fight, and if you're not a fan of one of those teams, then good luck finding a reason to care about the NBA until at least the conference finals. The "arms race" mentality that the stars have is destroying the NBA from the inside. I literally watched more hockey in the past year than basketball because it was so obvious that the finals would be Warriors vs. Cavs and I cared so little. Rockets are just gonna choke anyway. <cite>GunmaN1905 posted [p:883080914] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Calwyn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted...</cite> <quote>Because literally 85% of the entire league is irrelevant.</quote> Saying 15% of the league is relevant right now is actually being more generous than the NBA deserves. The Warriors, Cavaliers and Rockets (since getting Chris Paul) are the only 3 teams that have any sort of chance to win this year's NBA title, and the Rockets are still a huge longshot. That's 3 out of 30 teams relevant, meaning it's actually 90% of the league that doesn't mean shit. The Warriors and Cavs will run through everyone, the Rockets will be the only ones to put up any sort of a fight, and if you're not a fan of one of those teams, then good luck finding a reason to care about the NBA until at least the conference finals. The "arms race" mentality that the stars have is destroying the NBA from the inside. I literally watched more hockey in the past year than basketball because it was so obvious that the finals would be Warriors vs. Cavs and I cared so little.</quote> Rockets are just gonna choke anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SK8T3R215 07/17/17 1:38:41 PM #10:	iosifsvoboda posted... Because the Player's Association is ran by all the elite players so that literally everybody except for the top 15 players get fucked. Um role players are getting like $15 million a year now. --- New York Knicks, New York Jets, New York Yankees. <cite>SK8T3R215 posted [p:883080991] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote><cite>iosifsvoboda posted...</cite> <quote>Because the Player's Association is ran by all the elite players so that literally everybody except for the top 15 players get fucked. </quote> Um role players are getting like $15 million a year now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 07/17/17 1:39:30 PM #11:	The NHL is much better than the NBA and has been since at least 2005 --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:883081034] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote>The NHL is much better than the NBA and has been since at least 2005</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 07/17/17 1:59:52 PM #12:	HypnoCoosh posted... Because $$$ > everything else If that was the case super teams wouldn't exist. But you have players taking cuts to play together. The fact that max contracts exist is a significant problem. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:883082244] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote>Because $$$ > everything else</quote> If that was the case super teams wouldn't exist. But you have players taking cuts to play together. The fact that max contracts exist is a significant problem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gatorsPENSbucs 07/17/17 2:03:11 PM #13:	Because kids these days just want to see a 48 minute 3 point contest. --- http://m.imgur.com/BtD5etN?r https://m.imgur.com/a/jclul http://i.imgtc.com/etNW2apANm.jpg <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted [p:883082449] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote>Because kids these days just want to see a 48 minute 3 point contest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xeno14 07/17/17 2:04:11 PM #14:	is this similar to what the yankees had in baseball when super teams were viable back in the past? --- http://i.imgur.com/brMr5Ig.jpg http://i.imgur.com/MoXxySu.gif https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyGM7qMXgAAwhbT.jpg:large <cite>Xeno14 posted [p:883082507] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote>is this similar to what the yankees had in baseball when super teams were viable back in the past?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperExcitebike 07/17/17 2:04:36 PM #15:	Kevin Durant --- SMU Mustangs/Jayhawks/Texans/Rockets http://followmy.tv/u/Excitebike <cite>SuperExcitebike posted [p:883082537] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote>Kevin Durant</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SF_Okami 07/17/17 2:05:20 PM #16:	Xeno14 posted... is this similar to what the yankees had in baseball when super teams were viable back in the past? NBA today is way worse --- ~Bird Pokemon Master~ <cite>SF_Okami posted [p:883082586] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Xeno14 posted...</cite> <quote>is this similar to what the yankees had in baseball when super teams were viable back in the past?</quote> NBA today is way worse</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iosifsvoboda 07/17/17 2:07:17 PM #17:	SK8T3R215 posted... iosifsvoboda posted... Because the Player's Association is ran by all the elite players so that literally everybody except for the top 15 players get fucked. Um role players are getting like $15 million a year now. That has nothing to do with anything besides TV deals. They'd be getting more if the NBAPA wasn't run by Chris Paul and LeBron --- ^_^ <cite>iosifsvoboda posted [p:883082701] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote><cite>SK8T3R215 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iosifsvoboda posted...</cite> <quote>Because the Player's Association is ran by all the elite players so that literally everybody except for the top 15 players get fucked. </quote> Um role players are getting like $15 million a year now.</quote> That has nothing to do with anything besides TV deals. They'd be getting more if the NBAPA wasn't run by Chris Paul and LeBron</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xeno14 07/17/17 2:12:07 PM #18:	SF_Okami posted... Xeno14 posted... is this similar to what the yankees had in baseball when super teams were viable back in the past? NBA today is way worse i meant more in structure of the league that allows them to form and what actions could be taken to bring back more competitiveness to the league the only difference i know really is that MLB has no salary cap whereas the nba does --- http://i.imgur.com/brMr5Ig.jpg http://i.imgur.com/MoXxySu.gif https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyGM7qMXgAAwhbT.jpg:large <cite>Xeno14 posted [p:883082986] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote><cite>SF_Okami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Xeno14 posted...</cite> <quote>is this similar to what the yankees had in baseball when super teams were viable back in the past?</quote> NBA today is way worse</quote> i meant more in structure of the league that allows them to form and what actions could be taken to bring back more competitiveness to the league the only difference i know really is that MLB has no salary cap whereas the nba does</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iosifsvoboda 07/17/17 2:19:02 PM #19:	No the situations are completely different. NBA has super teams because players are willing to take pay cuts to win. See KD --- ^_^ <cite>iosifsvoboda posted [p:883083383] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote>No the situations are completely different. NBA has super teams because players are willing to take pay cuts to win. See KD</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SK8T3R215 07/17/17 2:21:09 PM #20:	iosifsvoboda posted... SK8T3R215 posted... iosifsvoboda posted... Because the Player's Association is ran by all the elite players so that literally everybody except for the top 15 players get fucked. Um role players are getting like $15 million a year now. That has nothing to do with anything besides TV deals. They'd be getting more if the NBAPA wasn't run by Chris Paul and LeBron You realize they negotiate the percent of that money the players get which is why the cap skyrocketed recently. So they helped all NBA players make more going forward. Not really sure what more you want them to do for those players. --- New York Knicks, New York Jets, New York Yankees. <cite>SK8T3R215 posted [p:883083505] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote><cite>iosifsvoboda posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SK8T3R215 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iosifsvoboda posted...</cite> <quote>Because the Player's Association is ran by all the elite players so that literally everybody except for the top 15 players get fucked. </quote> Um role players are getting like $15 million a year now.</quote> That has nothing to do with anything besides TV deals. They'd be getting more if the NBAPA wasn't run by Chris Paul and LeBron</quote> You realize they negotiate the percent of that money the players get which is why the cap skyrocketed recently. So they helped all NBA players make more going forward. Not really sure what more you want them to do for those players.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lob_city_3 07/17/17 2:22:28 PM #21:	gatorsPENSbucs posted... Because kids these days just want to see a 48 minute 3 point contest. You watch the NBA? --- Seattle Seahawks ``~`` LA Clippers <cite>lob_city_3 posted [p:883083568] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote><cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote>Because kids these days just want to see a 48 minute 3 point contest.</quote> You watch the NBA?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheBiggerWiggle 07/17/17 2:22:33 PM #22:	Calwyn posted... TheBiggerWiggle posted... Because literally 85% of the entire league is irrelevant. Saying 15% of the league is relevant right now is actually being more generous than the NBA deserves. The Warriors, Cavaliers and Rockets (since getting Chris Paul) are the only 3 teams that have any sort of chance to win this year's NBA title, and the Rockets are still a huge longshot. That's 3 out of 30 teams relevant, meaning it's actually 90% of the league that doesn't mean shit. The Warriors and Cavs will run through everyone, the Rockets will be the only ones to put up any sort of a fight, and if you're not a fan of one of those teams, then good luck finding a reason to care about the NBA until at least the conference finals. The "arms race" mentality that the stars have is destroying the NBA from the inside. I literally watched more hockey in the past year than basketball because it was so obvious that the finals would be Warriors vs. Cavs and I cared so little. I would still say the Spurs are relevant, but still that's only 4/30. --- I have trouble concentrating because I have 80HD. <cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted [p:883083572] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Calwyn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted...</cite> <quote>Because literally 85% of the entire league is irrelevant.</quote> Saying 15% of the league is relevant right now is actually being more generous than the NBA deserves. The Warriors, Cavaliers and Rockets (since getting Chris Paul) are the only 3 teams that have any sort of chance to win this year's NBA title, and the Rockets are still a huge longshot. That's 3 out of 30 teams relevant, meaning it's actually 90% of the league that doesn't mean shit. The Warriors and Cavs will run through everyone, the Rockets will be the only ones to put up any sort of a fight, and if you're not a fan of one of those teams, then good luck finding a reason to care about the NBA until at least the conference finals. The "arms race" mentality that the stars have is destroying the NBA from the inside. I literally watched more hockey in the past year than basketball because it was so obvious that the finals would be Warriors vs. Cavs and I cared so little.</quote> I would still say the Spurs are relevant, but still that's only 4/30.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 07/17/17 2:23:04 PM #23:	iosifsvoboda posted... No the situations are completely different. NBA has super teams because players are willing to take pay cuts to win. See KD They're willing because the difference between 20 million and 30 million isn't that much, especially when they can still get endorsements. If there were no max contracts kd would be a 35-45 mil player and LeBron 50 mil. Jordan in the 90s was making 30 mil. Stars are grossly underpaid and role players overpaid. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:883083605] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote><cite>iosifsvoboda posted...</cite> <quote>No the situations are completely different. NBA has super teams because players are willing to take pay cuts to win. See KD</quote> They're willing because the difference between 20 million and 30 million isn't that much, especially when they can still get endorsements. If there were no max contracts kd would be a 35-45 mil player and LeBron 50 mil. Jordan in the 90s was making 30 mil. Stars are grossly underpaid and role players overpaid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Calwyn 07/17/17 2:31:49 PM #24:	SF_Okami posted... Xeno14 posted... is this similar to what the yankees had in baseball when super teams were viable back in the past? NBA today is way worse This. The NBA is unbalanced because the players want to come together and win championships. This leads to all the best players being concentrated on a very small number of good teams and the rest of the teams being nothing compared to them. One could argue that a solid 80% of the league are so far from catching the Warriors and Cavs that they should just tank the next few seasons and gather draft picks for when LeBron starts to get old and the Warriors dynasty eventually fades away. There's no reason to even try to win if you're not one of those very elite teams. I'd rather be running the 76ers right now, who are bad and pretty much guaranteed to get high draft picks, than a team like the Raptors, who are a playoff-caliber team but have absolutely zero chance of making the NBA finals in their current state with the Warriors and Cavs around. Plus, even though the Yankees won 4 titles in 5 years in the late 90's, at least they played against different teams in the World Series during that time. The last 3 NBA finals have been Warriors vs. Cavs, and nothing that's happened this offseason makes me doubt that it won't happen again this season. --- #457 ~ http://i.imgur.com/uL3s6Rl.jpg "You've gotta keep fighting, and get back up again... my champion!" <cite>Calwyn posted [p:883084099] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote><cite>SF_Okami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Xeno14 posted...</cite> <quote>is this similar to what the yankees had in baseball when super teams were viable back in the past?</quote> NBA today is way worse</quote> This. The NBA is unbalanced because the players want to come together and win championships. This leads to all the best players being concentrated on a very small number of good teams and the rest of the teams being nothing compared to them. One could argue that a solid 80% of the league are so far from catching the Warriors and Cavs that they should just tank the next few seasons and gather draft picks for when LeBron starts to get old and the Warriors dynasty eventually fades away. There's no reason to even try to win if you're not one of those very elite teams. I'd rather be running the 76ers right now, who are bad and pretty much guaranteed to get high draft picks, than a team like the Raptors, who are a playoff-caliber team but have absolutely zero chance of making the NBA finals in their current state with the Warriors and Cavs around. Plus, even though the Yankees won 4 titles in 5 years in the late 90's, at least they played against different teams in the World Series during that time. The last 3 NBA finals have been Warriors vs. Cavs, and nothing that's happened this offseason makes me doubt that it won't happen again this season.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GunmaN1905 07/17/17 2:38:51 PM #25:	Warriors got into two finals in a row with 4 of their draft picks in the starting lineup. They'd probably be in the finals again this year even without KD. You can't blame them for having a good front office. Cavs got into three finals in a row because they have one of the best players in the history of the game. <cite>GunmaN1905 posted [p:883084514] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote>Warriors got into two finals in a row with 4 of their draft picks in the starting lineup. They'd probably be in the finals again this year even without KD. You can't blame them for having a good front office. Cavs got into three finals in a row because they have one of the best players in the history of the game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cj_WlLL_VVlN 07/17/17 2:42:31 PM #26:	Shin Kudo posted... Literally the most watchable league in North American pro sports LOL you mean the most boring game with the least parity that most don't bother watching til the finals because they already know who it will be. --- Give me your tired, your poor,Your masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.Send these, the homeless, tempest tossed, to me. <cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted [p:883084725] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Shin Kudo posted...</cite> <quote>Literally the most watchable league in North American pro sports</quote> LOL you mean the most boring game with the least parity that most don't bother watching til the finals because they already know who it will be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shin Kudo 07/17/17 2:59:22 PM #27:	Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted... Shin Kudo posted... Literally the most watchable league in North American pro sports LOL you mean the most boring game with the least parity that most don't bother watching til the finals because they already know who it will be. Ok I admit it has the least parity but IMO it's still the best sport to watch on tv. It does suck that everyone knows what the finals matchup would be but like others have said, more blame should go to the players for that NFL - too slow, too many breaks MLB - too many games, no one cares until September/October NHL - awesome to watch live but boring on tv, not popular enough yet MLS - People only care about soccer in America every 4 years That's not to say I don't watch those sports because I do. It's just that I have the most fun watching NBA games compared to the other leagues --- http://imgur.com/WjiGN0g http://imgur.com/o2NVhgX <cite>Shin Kudo posted [p:883085632] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Shin Kudo posted...</cite> <quote>Literally the most watchable league in North American pro sports</quote> LOL you mean the most boring game with the least parity that most don't bother watching til the finals because they already know who it will be.</quote> Ok I admit it has the least parity but IMO it's still the best sport to watch on tv. It does suck that everyone knows what the finals matchup would be but like others have said, more blame should go to the players for that NFL - too slow, too many breaks MLB - too many games, no one cares until September/October NHL - awesome to watch live but boring on tv, not popular enough yet MLS - People only care about soccer in America every 4 years That's not to say I don't watch those sports because I do. It's just that I have the most fun watching NBA games compared to the other leagues</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 07/17/17 3:06:33 PM #28:	The only teams that matter in the NBA are the teams with the top 5 or so players. Everything in the entire sport revolves around those players, and I just don't understand how so many people can find that interesting. --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:883086067] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote>The only teams that matter in the NBA are the teams with the top 5 or so players. Everything in the entire sport revolves around those players, and I just don't understand how so many people can find that interesting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mizznox 07/17/17 3:24:08 PM #29:	SK8T3R215 posted... You realize they negotiate the percent of that money the players get which is why the cap skyrocketed recently. So they helped all NBA players make more going forward. Not really sure what more you want them to do for those players. The players got bent over hard and had their cut of revenue reduced from 51% to 44.74% in the 2011 CBA (no change in 2017); the skyrocketing cap is entirely because of the TV deal. But the idea that it's only elite players controlling the Players Assocation and only focusing on themselves is off base. James Jones, Andre Iguodala, Anthony Tolliver, Garret Temple, and Pau Gasol are 5 of the 9 players on the Executive Committee, and if you look down the list of team representatives, it's largely role players. --- http://i.imgur.com/cZmZwYj.jpg <cite>Mizznox posted [p:883087067] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote><cite>SK8T3R215 posted...</cite> <quote>You realize they negotiate the percent of that money the players get which is why the cap skyrocketed recently. So they helped all NBA players make more going forward. Not really sure what more you want them to do for those players.</quote> The players got bent over hard and had their cut of revenue reduced from 51% to 44.74% in the 2011 CBA (no change in 2017); the skyrocketing cap is entirely because of the TV deal. But the idea that it's only elite players controlling the Players Assocation and only focusing on themselves is off base. James Jones, Andre Iguodala, Anthony Tolliver, Garret Temple, and Pau Gasol are 5 of the 9 players on the Executive Committee, and if you look down the list of team representatives, it's largely role players.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SK8T3R215 07/17/17 3:47:35 PM #30:	Mizznox posted... The players got bent over hard and had their cut of revenue reduced from 51% to 44.74% in the 2011 CBA (no change in 2017); the skyrocketing cap is entirely because of the TV deal. Oh I thought they got like 57% of the revenue. Must've confused it with another league. --- New York Knicks, New York Jets, New York Yankees. <cite>SK8T3R215 posted [p:883088396] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mizznox posted...</cite> <quote>The players got bent over hard and had their cut of revenue reduced from 51% to 44.74% in the 2011 CBA (no change in 2017); the skyrocketing cap is entirely because of the TV deal.</quote> Oh I thought they got like 57% of the revenue. Must've confused it with another league.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SF_Okami 07/17/17 4:02:53 PM #31:	I will say the next season is interesting. The East is already done as far as I am concerned but the West is loaded. In order to get to Cleveland in the Finals, Warriors may have to beat... Round 1: Thunder Led by Russ and PG13 Round 2: Rockets Led by Harden and CP3 (Melo too maybe?) Round 3: Spurs led by Pop Having to go through those caliber of teams before even reaching the finals is crazy. Not to Mention my wolves are in there now and they are looking like an incredible team too. It may be optimistic, but the Wild West is currently a 5 team conference (GSW, OKC, HOU, SA, MIN) while the East is only a 2 team conference (Cavs and Celts) It is possible to be GSW and CLE again, but this season appears to be less of a sure thing because of the arms race other teams have done this offseason. Melo, Derrick Rose, and LaMarcus Aldridge are all still seeking new teams possibly so we still have more moves coming. --- ~Bird Pokemon Master~ <cite>SF_Okami posted [p:883089240] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote>I will say the next season is interesting. The East is already done as far as I am concerned but the West is loaded. In order to get to Cleveland in the Finals, Warriors may have to beat... Round 1: Thunder Led by Russ and PG13 Round 2: Rockets Led by Harden and CP3 (Melo too maybe?) Round 3: Spurs led by Pop Having to go through those caliber of teams before even reaching the finals is crazy. Not to Mention my wolves are in there now and they are looking like an incredible team too. It may be optimistic, but the Wild West is currently a 5 team conference (GSW, OKC, HOU, SA, MIN) while the East is only a 2 team conference (Cavs and Celts) It is possible to be GSW and CLE again, but this season appears to be less of a sure thing because of the arms race other teams have done this offseason. Melo, Derrick Rose, and LaMarcus Aldridge are all still seeking new teams possibly so we still have more moves coming.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Calwyn 07/17/17 4:17:52 PM #32:	SF_Okami posted... Round 1: Thunder Led by Russ and PG13 Round 2: Rockets Led by Harden and CP3 (Melo too maybe?) Round 3: Spurs led by Pop None of those are even close to beating the Warriors in a 7-game series barring an injury to Curry or Durant. They're close enough that it's not absolutely hopeless, but those teams would need to acquire one more star player to approach Golden State's level. And before you ask: no, I don't consider a dsgruntled, past-his-prime Carmelo Anthony enough of a superstar to swing things in any of these teams' favor. --- #653 ~ http://i.imgur.com/ut3pgX3.jpg "You've gotta keep fighting, and get back up again... my champion!" <cite>Calwyn posted [p:883090081] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote><cite>SF_Okami posted...</cite> <quote>Round 1: Thunder Led by Russ and PG13 Round 2: Rockets Led by Harden and CP3 (Melo too maybe?) Round 3: Spurs led by Pop</quote> None of those are even close to beating the Warriors in a 7-game series barring an injury to Curry or Durant. They're close enough that it's not absolutely hopeless, but those teams would need to acquire one more star player to approach Golden State's level. And before you ask: no, I don't consider a dsgruntled, past-his-prime Carmelo Anthony enough of a superstar to swing things in any of these teams' favor.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SF_Okami 07/17/17 4:19:12 PM #33:	Calwyn posted... SF_Okami posted... Round 1: Thunder Led by Russ and PG13 Round 2: Rockets Led by Harden and CP3 (Melo too maybe?) Round 3: Spurs led by Pop None of those are even close to beating the Warriors in a 7-game series barring an injury to Curry or Durant. They're close enough that it's not absolutely hopeless, but those teams would need to acquire one more star player to approach Golden State's level. And before you ask: no, I don't consider a dsgruntled, past-his-prime Carmelo Anthony enough of a superstar to swing things in any of these teams' favor. Thats what I mean. Warriors wont sweep through the west like last year. Alot of stars went west and joined a select few teams so it will be competitive at the very least. --- ~Bird Pokemon Master~ <cite>SF_Okami posted [p:883090148] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Calwyn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SF_Okami posted...</cite> <quote>Round 1: Thunder Led by Russ and PG13 Round 2: Rockets Led by Harden and CP3 (Melo too maybe?) Round 3: Spurs led by Pop</quote> None of those are even close to beating the Warriors in a 7-game series barring an injury to Curry or Durant. They're close enough that it's not absolutely hopeless, but those teams would need to acquire one more star player to approach Golden State's level. And before you ask: no, I don't consider a dsgruntled, past-his-prime Carmelo Anthony enough of a superstar to swing things in any of these teams' favor.</quote> Thats what I mean. Warriors wont sweep through the west like last year. Alot of stars went west and joined a select few teams so it will be competitive at the very least.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 07/17/17 4:33:46 PM #34:	Shin Kudo posted... no one cares until September/October lol. only 10 teams make the playoffs, 4 of which play a one game play-in as the wildcard round. MLB regular season matters more than any other sport. People care around late june to start getting into the all star vote, then after the break for playoff races. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:883090999] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Shin Kudo posted...</cite> <quote>no one cares until September/October</quote> lol. only 10 teams make the playoffs, 4 of which play a one game play-in as the wildcard round. MLB regular season matters more than any other sport. People care around late june to start getting into the all star vote, then after the break for playoff races.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KILBOTz 07/17/17 4:41:15 PM #35:	the NBA intentionally moved to a star focused league with incremental rule changes over the years. They want the good players to be better to sell jerseys. But it damages individual teams and the product as a whole. --- http://i.imgur.com/O3syCWD.gif http://i.imgur.com/k3YiBdG.gif <cite>KILBOTz posted [p:883091434] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote>the NBA intentionally moved to a star focused league with incremental rule changes over the years. They want the good players to be better to sell jerseys. But it damages individual teams and the product as a whole.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mizznox 07/17/17 4:48:18 PM #36:	SF_Okami posted... I will say the next season is interesting. The East is already done as far as I am concerned but the West is loaded. In order to get to Cleveland in the Finals, Warriors may have to beat... Round 1: Thunder Led by Russ and PG13 I really don't think OKC is going to drop from 6th last year to 8th this year after getting George. --- http://i.imgur.com/cZmZwYj.jpg <cite>Mizznox posted [p:883091876] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote><cite>SF_Okami posted...</cite> <quote>I will say the next season is interesting. The East is already done as far as I am concerned but the West is loaded. In order to get to Cleveland in the Finals, Warriors may have to beat... Round 1: Thunder Led by Russ and PG13</quote> I really don't think OKC is going to drop from 6th last year to 8th this year after getting George.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SF_Okami 07/17/17 4:50:43 PM #37:	Mizznox posted... SF_Okami posted... I will say the next season is interesting. The East is already done as far as I am concerned but the West is loaded. In order to get to Cleveland in the Finals, Warriors may have to beat... Round 1: Thunder Led by Russ and PG13 I really don't think OKC is going to drop from 6th last year to 8th this year after getting George. That is just an example. Just saying Warriors may need to get through 2-3 stacked teams just to get to cleveland. West is so much better now --- ~Bird Pokemon Master~ <cite>SF_Okami posted [p:883092007] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mizznox posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SF_Okami posted...</cite> <quote>I will say the next season is interesting. The East is already done as far as I am concerned but the West is loaded. In order to get to Cleveland in the Finals, Warriors may have to beat... Round 1: Thunder Led by Russ and PG13</quote> I really don't think OKC is going to drop from 6th last year to 8th this year after getting George.</quote> That is just an example. Just saying Warriors may need to get through 2-3 stacked teams just to get to cleveland. West is so much better now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 07/17/17 6:57:03 PM #38:	KILBOTz posted... the NBA intentionally moved to a star focused league with incremental rule changes over the years. They want the good players to be better to sell jerseys. But it damages individual teams and the product as a whole. jersey sales are a drop in the bucket compared to tv money. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:883099693] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote><cite>KILBOTz posted...</cite> <quote>the NBA intentionally moved to a star focused league with incremental rule changes over the years. They want the good players to be better to sell jerseys. But it damages individual teams and the product as a whole.</quote> jersey sales are a drop in the bucket compared to tv money.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zack_Attackv1 07/17/17 6:57:27 PM #39:	Excuse me? --- http://i.imgur.com/UktCDLZ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/3j5xvAj.jpg <cite>Zack_Attackv1 posted [p:883099714] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote>Excuse me?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrettyBoyFloyd 07/17/17 7:13:01 PM #40:	No hard defense in the paint. No real muggers and enforcers anymore. --- The Evil Republicans - Est.2004 - WoT [Government Destabilizing Branch] <cite>PrettyBoyFloyd posted [p:883100655] in Why does t... [t:75575146]...</cite> <quote>No hard defense in the paint. No real muggers and enforcers anymore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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