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Capn Circus 07/10/17 12:42:29 AM #51: |
ChromaticAngel posted...
the problem is neither guns nor people. It's poverty. People growing up in the 50s, 60s, and below were much poorer than today. They didn't have foodstamps. They didn't have free housing. They didn't have heating during the winter. They didn't have Obama phones. And they didn't (by and large) run around unhinged killing each other, either. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gorbachev 07/10/17 12:44:16 AM #52: |
There are a lot of places with less gun crimes than our inner cities that are way poorer.
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Gorbachev 07/10/17 12:45:26 AM #53: |
Oh sorry, murdered in general. Like I doubt you will ever see the amount of murder in Vietnam that you do in Chicago.
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Medz2017 07/10/17 12:51:42 AM #54: |
Capn Circus posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...the problem is neither guns nor people. It's poverty. Before "Obama Phones" there was collect calls. --- Hi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Crazyman93 07/10/17 12:52:20 AM #55: |
Capn Circus posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...the problem is neither guns nor people. It's poverty. They were too busy making money to survive to kill each other. Eliminate welfare. --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Samurontai 07/10/17 12:52:35 AM #56: |
Crazyman93 posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...ChromaticAngel posted...In World War 1, they'd always tell the soldiers don't bother stabbing anyone with your bayonet, kill them with your spade. I don't think you understand how biology works If you stab someone in the gut, they most likely won't even feel it at first because of adrenaline --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Crazyman93 07/10/17 12:53:55 AM #57: |
Samurontai posted...
Crazyman93 posted...gatorsPENSbucs posted...ChromaticAngel posted...In World War 1, they'd always tell the soldiers don't bother stabbing anyone with your bayonet, kill them with your spade. In war, probably. If I stabbed you in the gut right now, you would probably be too shocked to do anything. --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Medz2017 07/10/17 12:54:51 AM #58: |
I say the more gun laws there are more gun crimes however I am going to look from the other side point of view. The less gun laws the less gun crime? I am not agreeing I am just asking.
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Samurontai 07/10/17 1:01:53 AM #59: |
Crazyman93 posted...
Samurontai posted...Crazyman93 posted...gatorsPENSbucs posted...ChromaticAngel posted...In World War 1, they'd always tell the soldiers don't bother stabbing anyone with your bayonet, kill them with your spade. Uh no, in reality actually There's a reason why war isn't fought with swords and bows anymore Guns are much more effective at killing people en masse --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Capn Circus 07/10/17 1:02:42 AM #60: |
Crazyman93 posted...
Capn Circus posted...ChromaticAngel posted...the problem is neither guns nor people. It's poverty. Exactly, though I wouldn't eliminate welfare altogether. The violence has nothing to do with poverty. Many people alive today who are 70+ years old grew up dirt poor. Especially considering modern day conveniences poor people are privileged with today. There's even plenty of poor or struggling Americans that aren't running around gangbaning, smoking pot/snorting other drugs, and living a get rich quick or die lifestyle. Poverty is not an excuse for these atrocities. The get-rich-quick, fancy watch, fancy rims, big booty girls, etc. culture is to blame. Not guns, and not poverty. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Capn Circus 07/10/17 1:12:02 AM #61: |
And another person to blame is Eric Holder and the liberal justice system applied under Obama for the past eight years. A disproportionate amount of certain people being arrested in undercover police stings? Policing is racist, change the law.
New Orleans used to have undercover cops pose as drunk/passed out tourists walking down the side streets. Holder sued New Orleans for that and it's no longer a practice. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Medz2017 07/10/17 1:21:12 AM #62: |
Capn Circus posted...
Crazyman93 posted...Capn Circus posted...ChromaticAngel posted...the problem is neither guns nor people. It's poverty. In my opinion welfare should not be eliminated however I am all for volunteer for welfare. Some people need a hand not a hand out. --- Hi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Crazyman93 07/10/17 1:30:11 AM #63: |
Capn Circus posted...
New Orleans used to have undercover cops pose as drunk/passed out tourists walking down the side streets. Holder sued New Orleans for that and it's no longer a practice. Wow. Did he also sue cities that use bait cars? --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Medz2017 07/10/17 1:34:57 AM #64: |
Crazyman93 posted...
Capn Circus posted...New Orleans used to have undercover cops pose as drunk/passed out tourists walking down the side streets. Holder sued New Orleans for that and it's no longer a practice. Or undercover anything? --- Hi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Capn Circus 07/10/17 1:49:31 AM #65: |
Medz2017 posted...
Crazyman93 posted...Capn Circus posted...New Orleans used to have undercover cops pose as drunk/passed out tourists walking down the side streets. Holder sued New Orleans for that and it's no longer a practice. Probably, I don't know. That's just one example that sticks out in my mind. They did a bunch of things that inhibited police to be proactive on crime and patrolling communities. Everyone was walking on eggshells. They still are, though hopefully that will start to change under Trump. But, Trump and his administration can't do everything. A good amount is up to the communities and people who govern them. People will, as they've always done and continue to do, move away from the crime and violence. But eventually there will be no place else left to go. And that will be that. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Medz2017 07/12/17 7:05:49 AM #67: |
Capn Circus posted...
Crazyman93 posted...Capn Circus posted...ChromaticAngel posted...the problem is neither guns nor people. It's poverty. Yup --- Hi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Flintgrandad 07/14/17 2:41:33 AM #68: |
Well shit
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thompsontalker7 07/16/17 4:35:07 AM #70: |
If you say CHI CITY
Seriously though what the fuck is going on down there Do all the illegal guns in the US filter through Chicago or something --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet. Might wanna get on that, yeah? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GrAyFoX312k 07/20/17 4:27:58 AM #73: |
Anyone else think it's fucked up that, I myself am guilty of this, that when they read that this happened in chicago we immediately dismiss it as something crazy and attribute it to it being normal? Like why hasn't this been fixed yet?
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